first android phone coming from ios for the last many years
1. sms- how do i get notifications? i don't want that little icon on the top taskbar, i want a popup like the iphone so i will immediately know. i don't even get a notification in the lockscreen which i want. also quick reply somehow? same as missed calls, i want a big notification popup
2. contact/sms page- how do i get rid of the picture profile squares? it makes each line so "thick" and takes up too much room
3. quick way to put it to silent/vibrate only mode like iphone?
4. how do you actually exit an app? it seems like when i press any of the softkeys on the bottom (home or back) it just minimizes it and still has it running in the background
5. if i reflash rom, will i lose all my apps and settings? which rom do you suggest?
6. what are the advantages of giving me root access? examples or what i can do?
7. one big feature of iphone ios 5 is group sms, can android group sms with iphone users?
8. must have apps?
1. For SMS popup thing, you can go and download another messaging application like GoSMS from the market and set it's settings.
2. That can't happen, download GoContacts from the market?
3. Hold the volume down button or set a volume toggle on the homescreen
4. Click on multitasking, swipe left or right to close an application.
5. Yes, you will. You can backup all your apps and system data through Titanium Backup from the market, google how to do that. I recommend AOKP.
6. Better speed, stability, customizations etc.
7. No, just download whatsapp
8. Don't know what you'll like
Are you sure you wanted to leave iPhone? There are apps out there to do what you are asking for with pop ups, etc.... there are also SMS apps you can install to replace the standard one. Hands cent comes to mind for that.
To quickly go to vibrate press and hold power button. A window will open with the option for vibrate, airplane mode and power off options....
Hope this helps some what. I've had an iPhone 3G and 4. I came to Android for the freedom of not being locked into Steve Jobs view of how I should use my phone. I don't miss it. Give it time and you should see the same thing.
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if ur that new to android... i dont think u should start flashing roms right now!!
read more, do more research cuz i dont want u to start another thread by telling us u brick ur phone.. wont start up.. those kinda things
Oh... forgot. Android is a true multitasking system. Apps will run in background. I have heard if you press the back button instead of home to exit an app it will stop it. Don't know if that is true. Usually the os takes care of the processes for you.
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Learn to use your phone and become adjusted to the Android eco-system before you start talking about rooting.
Also, use GoSMS.
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arzbhatia said:
1. For SMS popup thing, you can go and download another messaging application like GoSMS from the market and set it's settings.
2. That can't happen, download GoContacts from the market?
3. Hold the volume down button or set a volume toggle on the homescreen
4. Click on multitasking, swipe left or right to close an application.
5. Yes, you will. You can backup all your apps and system data through Titanium Backup from the market, google how to do that. I recommend AOKP.
6. Better speed, stability, customizations etc.
7. No, just download whatsapp
8. Don't know what you'll like
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thank you for your reply
as for #3, is there another way to exit without going to that screen and swipe 1 by 1? because just now as i'm learning about my phone and opening up a bunch of stuff, i go to my multitask screen and have like 10 things i want to swipe and it's kinda annoying to do it 1 by 1
unknown00 said:
thank you for your reply
as for #3, is there another way to exit without going to that screen and swipe 1 by 1? because just now as i'm learning about my phone and opening up a bunch of stuff, i go to my multitask screen and have like 10 things i want to swipe and it's kinda annoying to do it 1 by 1
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u call swiping 1 by 1 annoying?? u press multitask button once.. and u ready to swipe already..
from what i see, i think u used iphone before... and when u want to close apps, u have to double click home button... then hold down 1 icon.. then press X
i see how u define annoying now...
unknown00 said:
thank you for your reply
as for #3, is there another way to exit without going to that screen and swipe 1 by 1? because just now as i'm learning about my phone and opening up a bunch of stuff, i go to my multitask screen and have like 10 things i want to swipe and it's kinda annoying to do it 1 by 1
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As I believe someone above said, there is no real reason to "kill" apps, or close them down completely.
My understanding is that apps are kept in a suspended state in the background after you back out of them, or hit the home button. They don't really chew any battery or resources, but by keeping them in the RAM the app opens faster the next time you need it, or remembers what you were doing/where you were within the app.
If the phone needs to free up that space for an active app, or services that you are using, then it will close it fully/remove it from RAM to make space and keep the phone running smoothly.
Again, this is my understanding... and if I'm wrong I'm happy to stand corrected by more knowledgeable users.
As for a previous question about what "must have apps", I am a fan of Light Flow (which you can get in a free version) for customising the notification LED.
unknown00 said:
thank you for your reply
as for #3, is there another way to exit without going to that screen and swipe 1 by 1? because just now as i'm learning about my phone and opening up a bunch of stuff, i go to my multitask screen and have like 10 things i want to swipe and it's kinda annoying to do it 1 by 1
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You're looking at Android from an iOS users perspective. Don't even worry about closing apps. Android is set up to know when to end processes/close apps. Even if you do completely close an app it'll just take longer to start that app when you need it again. Let the OS handle that stuff.
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king23adrianc said:
if ur that new to android... i dont think u should start flashing roms right now!!
read more, do more research cuz i dont want u to start another thread by telling us u brick ur phone.. wont start up.. those kinda things
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Definitely listen to this advice. You can wind up with a 500$ paper weight
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i don't think i'll flash to custom rom until 4.0.5 so i'll have enough time to play with it. more questions
1. speaking of roms, i see 4.0.4 is coming out. i go to settings and try to update but it says non available? is there a quick seamless way to upgrade? also, if i upgrade to stock 4.0.4 will i lose all apps?
2. how do i get notifications to appear on the lock screen? i hate how the lockscreen just has the time and doesn't show anything else (except that tiny thin taskbar line on top)
3. i want to be able to delete/mark as read/etc emails without actually going into a native app? for example, from that taskbar notification dropdown or preferably from the lockscreen, is there a way to delete an email?
4. when i get a notification or any kind, all i get is a ring and vibrate. i want the screen to turn on and have the notification show (kinda like #2, a popup on lockscreen of what the notification is)
unknown00 said:
i don't think i'll flash to custom rom until 4.0.5 so i'll have enough time to play with it. more questions
1. speaking of roms, i see 4.0.4 is coming out. i go to settings and try to update but it says non available? is there a quick seamless way to upgrade? also, if i upgrade to stock 4.0.4 will i lose all apps?
2. how do i get notifications to appear on the lock screen? i hate how the lockscreen just has the time and doesn't show anything else (except that tiny thin taskbar line on top)
3. i want to be able to delete/mark as read/etc emails without actually going into a native app? for example, from that taskbar notification dropdown or preferably from the lockscreen, is there a way to delete an email?
4. when i get a notification or any kind, all i get is a ring and vibrate. i want the screen to turn on and have the notification show (kinda like #2, a popup on lockscreen of what the notification is)
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It appears that you want your android phone to be an iPhone. That is something that it will never be. They are two completely different eco systems and are capable of completely different things.
1. Updates are not available for every phone at the same time. Google/Android/Carriers do have an annoying habit of releasing updates to certain phones in certain area's/countries at different times. You will eventually get the notification that an update is ready. Just be patient. With Android, you need to be patient.
2. Personally, i am not sure there is a fluid way to make this happen, however i am sure someone can correct me. There lock screen replacement apps like WidgetLocker but i dont know if they enable large notifications.
3. again, as far as i am aware, there is no way to mark as read or delete an email without actually going into the native application. When the notification comes through you can dismiss it by swiping left or right (like you do in the multi-tasking section) but you will still have to enter the native app to delete or reply.
4. Try SMS pop up, but again, this is not and iPhone...
I saw earlier you asked about Rooting etc... TREAD CAREFULLY. This can be dangerous if you dont understand the terminology and as you have been in such a closed system that is iOS, learn more about Android before going down this road. When you are ready I would keep an eye on the following sites...
i) Androidpolice.com
ii) galaxynexusroot.com (great tutorials and videos)
iii) galaxynexusforum.com (only about the gnex)
Hope this helps
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I also just found this thread which will give you all the information you need if you are new to the joys of modding.
Thanks to Dakota0206 for putting this great post together
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442184
another quick question - everyone talks about oh if you root if you flash and mess up you will get in trouble etc etc, can't you just "reflash" to stock if you screw something up?
unknown00 said:
another quick question - everyone talks about oh if you root if you flash and mess up you will get in trouble etc etc, can't you just "reflash" to stock if you screw something up?
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Nope, if you brick your phone it won't even boot. How would you "re flash" if you can't get into recovery. You're really trying to run before crawling. Slow it down, read & research you'll be happier at the end of the day.
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unknown00 said:
first android phone coming from ios for the last many years
1. sms- how do i get notifications? i don't want that little icon on the top taskbar, i want a popup like the iphone so i will immediately know. i don't even get a notification in the lockscreen which i want. also quick reply somehow? same as missed calls, i want a big notification popup
2. contact/sms page- how do i get rid of the picture profile squares? it makes each line so "thick" and takes up too much room
3. quick way to put it to silent/vibrate only mode like iphone?
4. how do you actually exit an app? it seems like when i press any of the softkeys on the bottom (home or back) it just minimizes it and still has it running in the background
5. if i reflash rom, will i lose all my apps and settings? which rom do you suggest?
6. what are the advantages of giving me root access? examples or what i can do?
7. one big feature of iphone ios 5 is group sms, can android group sms with iphone users?
8. must have apps?
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Install handcent and use it, it has a pop up notification anywhere when you get a text. And it has better options too, and has identical iPhone theme and look. Disable the stock SMS app in its settings.
Use volume down to quickly turn on silent. Better option is to use a dedicated widget from the market. A custom rom has better options though enabled just by holding the power button.
To exit apps you leave it with back button. This let's the os claim that process for free ram. Home button backgrounds an app to multitask. So always leave an app with back button when you're done.
unknown00 said:
i don't think i'll flash to custom rom until 4.0.5 so i'll have enough time to play with it. more questions
1. speaking of roms, i see 4.0.4 is coming out. i go to settings and try to update but it says non available? is there a quick seamless way to upgrade? also, if i upgrade to stock 4.0.4 will i lose all apps?
2. how do i get notifications to appear on the lock screen? i hate how the lockscreen just has the time and doesn't show anything else (except that tiny thin taskbar line on top)
3. i want to be able to delete/mark as read/etc emails without actually going into a native app? for example, from that taskbar notification dropdown or preferably from the lockscreen, is there a way to delete an email?
4. when i get a notification or any kind, all i get is a ring and vibrate. i want the screen to turn on and have the notification show (kinda like #2, a popup on lockscreen of what the notification is)
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2. In the lock screen, you can swipe down the notification bar to see the notifications you have.
3. I don't think there is any way to do that. I think it's a security measure on Google's part so other apps can't "hijack" your email management.
4. Not a direct solution but I would recommend getting the app Light Flow. This lets you customise the LED to light up different colours depending on which type of notification you have. You don't even need to turn the screen on in that case.
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unknown00 said:
another quick question - everyone talks about oh if you root if you flash and mess up you will get in trouble etc etc, can't you just "reflash" to stock if you screw something up?
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You can always go back to stock. Its very difficult to permanently brick a nexus. Its pretty safe as long as you follow directions.
Edit: and for notifications this phone has a colored led light. You can set each notification to different color. Green I have new Google voice, blue I have new text, white is new Gmail, etc.
Ruxin said:
As I believe someone above said, there is no real reason to "kill" apps, or close them down completely.
My understanding is that apps are kept in a suspended state in the background after you back out of them, or hit the home button. They don't really chew any battery or resources, but by keeping them in the RAM the app opens faster the next time you need it, or remembers what you were doing/where you were within the app.
If the phone needs to free up that space for an active app, or services that you are using, then it will close it fully/remove it from RAM to make space and keep the phone running smoothly.
Again, this is my understanding... and if I'm wrong I'm happy to stand corrected by more knowledgeable users.
As for a previous question about what "must have apps", I am a fan of Light Flow (which you can get in a free version) for customising the notification LED.
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You're pretty much spot on with that. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. The Galaxy Nexus has a whopping gig a RAM, so the next time you'll need to physically close apps will probably be 2 or 3 years from now. Plus, Android's memory management is much better than iOS'.
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Also, for multitasking, just install system panel. Any app you see labeled "cached" is frozen and ready to be opened should you go back to that app. Cached apps are doing nothing, so you don't have to kill them. Just leave them be. You really don't have to kill anything ever. I never do and things work great.
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Can either of these simple things be achieved with the Desire?
1) unlock without having to use last button - ie wake up the phone from just a screen tap?
2) have an option to go straight to an event from the lock screen, be that a new sms / email / missed call or whatever other notification I might receive? I don't want to have to press power to unlock, then slide and then navigate through to messages or emails etc.
Oh and while I think about it, can I adjust the sensitivity of the track pad?
All of these things would make it a much better experience!
1) to unlock you have to use a button on top of the phone, no option in the software to unlock with just a screen touch, maybe a third party app would make this possible but not sure.
2)Again this is not something that is included in the default lock screen, you can control the music player from the lock screen but that is about all. A third party option may make what you want possible, not sure if such a solution exists though.
I haven't found any option to adjust the track pad sensitivity but I got used to it fairly quickly and it works just as well as a trackball in my opinion.
xspyda said:
Can either of these simple things be achieved with the Desire?
1) unlock without having to use last button - ie wake up the phone from just a screen tap?
Nope.
2) have an option to go straight to an event from the lock screen, be that a new sms / email / missed call or whatever other notification I might receive? I don't want to have to press power to unlock, then slide and then navigate through to messages or emails etc.
Nope. Only things that I can see operable from here is Snooze/Dismiss Alarm and the Music Player. May be more I haven't stumbled across
Oh and while I think about it, can I adjust the sensitivity of the track pad?
Again, Not as far as I can See
All of these things would make it a much better experience!
Agreed!
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Bloody 10 Characters...
Oh, and Beaten too by liamw.
on the lock screen, if you've got notifications, you unlock it and then slide down the taskbar and it gives you the notifications that you just click on to open them...or is that not it??
Thanks for replies, seems a shame these simple thinga cannot be achieved in Android.
Sure you can do that eddyos but to my way of thinking that's still too many steps to read a message!
Does anyone else keep hitting the damn full stop instead of space when typing?! Any solutions?
And while I am on a roll sms counter anyone? How do we know when we have reached 160 characters in our txts?
You can do it on the HD2 as the lock slider can be expanded to select the SMS you want to read for example...that was in Sense so perhaps someone will write an app for it once the Desire is rooted...doesn't bother me, tbh
xspyda said:
Thanks for replies, seems a shame these simple thinga cannot be achieved in Android.
Sure you can do that eddyos but to my way of thinking that's still too many steps to read a message!
Does anyone else keep hitting the damn full stop instead of space when typing?! Any solutions?
And while I am on a roll sms counter anyone? How do we know when we have reached 160 characters in our txts?
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When you get towards the end of a text it says above the send button x/160.
Try expanding the notification tray and THEN locking it. when you unlock the tray will be expanded just one click to get to a message, one click to get back home (home button).
i use handcent and you can rply messages from teh lock screen so that might be what your looking for
Omg the above reply just made me realise I've missed the obvious.
Download SMS Popup. It should do what you want.
brummiesteven said:
Omg the above reply just made me realise I've missed the obvious.
Download SMS Popup. It should do what you want.
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Agreed, or download chompSMS or Handcent.
EddyOS said:
You can do it on the HD2 as the lock slider can be expanded to select the SMS you want to read for example...that was in Sense so perhaps someone will write an app for it once the Desire is rooted...doesn't bother me, tbh
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That would be ideal! Flick up for going straight to the relevant app or down (as normal) for home screen.
brummiesteven said:
When you get towards the end of a text it says above the send button x/160.
Try expanding the notification tray and THEN locking it. when you unlock the tray will be expanded just one click to get to a message, one click to get back home (home button).
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So it does (the 160 characters that is) - not sure how I missed that!
Expanding the notification tray has no effect for me. As soon as the Desire is unlocked it's already rolled back up to the top.
slaming said:
i use handcent and you can rply messages from teh lock screen so that might be what your looking for
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Hmmm, not quite what I am after as I do not want to totally replace the in buily application. Running handcent alongside it still means I get notifications in the native app, which I don't want. Thanks for the suggestion though, I may persevere with it!
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Omg the above reply just made me realise I've missed the obvious.
Download SMS Popup. It should do what you want.
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Bingo! That's pretty much exactly what I am after - even wakes up the phone so no need for the power to unlock each time an sms comes in - thanks
One problem though - is this a bug? When selecting close at the popup window, if 'mark as read' is selected it should do just that, right? Well it's not doing. Any new sms remains in the message app as a new unread sms even after I have selected to close it with the option to mark as read ticked. So I am having to get rid of it twice.
Can anyone confirm this?
The mark as read thing is a bug, used to get it on my G1 although only when replying to SMS (IE I'd reply, the window would close but it would still be in the tray).
You can just clear the tray when you get the time or, search for a similar app.
Ok, worth mailing the dev or have you already done that?
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Ok, worth mailing the dev or have you already done that?
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Nope never bothered so yeah it might be worth doing that.
Yep this is the bug i mentioned in another thread! quite annoying
VERY annoying. I will email the dev .. can't hurt I suppose. Just need something like this for email as well now
That would be awesome.. surprised no ones made it!
xspyda said:
Hmmm, not quite what I am after as I do not want to totally replace the in buily application. Running handcent alongside it still means I get notifications in the native app, which I don't want. Thanks for the suggestion though, I may persevere with it!
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not true just go into the native apps and turn notifications off in the inbuilt app problem solved in less than a minute
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not true just go into the native apps and turn notifications off in the inbuilt app problem solved in less than a minute
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Yep, I did that but although there was no sound alert, the native messaging app still shows a new message in there when I don't want it to.
bizzare I don't get any notifications from the native app Any more after disabling all notifications in it
Playing with the Desire rom on my HTC HD2 and have hit some questions that I need to google for answers. I'm hoping for some help to see what normal is & what can be tweaked & so on.
- When my device is off and I get a sms page, I get a sound notification & a vibration - but the screen doesn't turn on. Is this normal or a bug in the way I am using the rom on my HD2?
- When I turn on the device, on the lock screen I see a bit of the missed page - but no way I can see to jump to the sms message. I can just unlock the phone & manually go see what it was. Would like a 1-step solution. This normal?
- The hardware buttons at the bottom of my device can light up (and do in Windows Mobile) but not running Droid. Once again, dunno if it's a bug in the way I'm using Droid or if the Desire simply doesn't have light up hardware buttons.
- I check a few web pages daily for WinMo news & new apps. Anyone have recommendations of must read Android web pages?
I know I had some others that I've forgotten already.
I will be researching these questions myself (as 3 kids 3 & under permit) & if I find answers I will post them myself. Thanks for your time.
First two are normal and you just need to slide down the notifications tray at the top to get to messages.
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First two are normal and you just need to slide down the notifications tray at the top to get to messages.
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Thanks. Much better then trying to figure out a bug.
Good time for me to look into lock screen replacements. Any suggestions?
Edit:
Made this my research project of the night - going to test out WidgetLocker Lockscreen.
Program launcher question - I dislike the big list of programs all mixed together. I'd like to make a folder/subfolder structure so I click on the main button, then pick games (possibly then breaking it down into game types, etc).
Are their apps that replace the program launcher portion without replacing the whole home screen?
If not, how about a program that is just a stand alone launcher? IE - I run the program from a shortcut & get the feature I'm looking for?
Found one that does it perfectly - 'Folder Organizer'
Also like the WidgetLocker lockscreen. Love using the Photo Gallery widgets that cycle through pix every 30 minutes.
Little by little I'm getting there.
I took me a while to get used to it too but you have to adopt the homescreens for your favourite apps where you can have folders, icons, widgets, and shortcuts. I only ever dive into the app drawer for the odd app I rarely used but like Calculator.
If you click Menu > List it'll alphabetise it and you can scroll using the bar too!
Just want to give a couple of suggestions for sites to check out to keep up-to-date on Android news.
www.engadget.com - Sure, they cover a vast number of topics but I find that they report a lot of the top Android news as well. Plus, it's always good to stay informed with other tech stuff.
www.pocketnow.com - These guys used to be strictly a Windows Mobile site. But they've since expanded their coverage to include Android and Apple stuff. Lots of good videos on their youtube channel.
www.androidcentral.com - Strictly Android-only site. They give decent App recommendations from time to time.
Quick question - when I pull the power to my phone (say after charging @ night) - it turns on! Any setting to keep it from turning itself on when I pull the power out?
I've never had it turn on if it was off!
its a shame to have the soft keys display while youre playing a game or watching a video. Any way to make them disappear completely and get a true full screen experience?
i was thinking maybe configuring it so that you gently tap the power button to make them go away(come back) & for normal power button use do a long press instead.
Probably a pointless bump/post from me, but this is something that I'd really like to have too.
Soft buttons sounded cool, but after getting the phone, they seem to be somewhat permanent and not particularly customisable either.
Videos seem to be the only application where they hide, but even then, simply tapping the screen _anywhere_ brings them back up again (even with screen control lock enabled).
I watch videos with subtitles and being a slow reader, tend to pause videos fairly regularly. It's annoying to have the video bounce around when I do so because of the soft buttons popping up.
Really would appreciate if anyone knows of a method to kill these soft buttons!
Yep I would love this as well, an option to enable this feature.
It would auto hide the soft keys, then a swipe up from the bottom will overlay the keys on top of the existing screen (so the app isn't resizing itself - like HD videos do when the keys come back).
Then we can use the full smexy 4.65" screen and real 720p.
it is up to the developer of the app to add the full screen code.
Dice Player was the first to add this and when you play videos, it automatically goes fullscreen and then a tap brings the buttons back.
i don't think that any mod or app could do it. You could probably make a mod that forces them to always hide in landscape, but the problem would be that they're always gone, even when you want them there.
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it is up to the developer of the app to add the full screen code.
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I presume that an app can only indicate that the buttons should be hidden, and really doesn't have much more control than that?
So basically, unusable in games.
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i don't think that any mod or app could do it. You could probably make a mod that forces them to always hide in landscape, but the problem would be that they're always gone, even when you want them there.
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Surely there must be some sort of modification (even if it needs to go back to the kernel (forgive my ignorance if I'm totally off)) to allow us to do it?
I can understand that an app is restricted to the API provided to it, which is why I think an OS level mod needs to be done here.
I get it that this could be less convenient / more confusing, so believe that this shouldn't be in a stock ROM, but if I want to mod my phone this way, I should be able to, right?
i would love a rom that has a setting where i can choose certain apps that can hide the buttons on whatever apps i want. that would be awesome. dont know if its possible. especially on slingplayer. its a $30 app which rarely gets updated. who knows when they will update it. its a good thing i sideloaded it and didnt pay for it. i dont see how it can work on games though because tapping the screen is the way to get the buttons there. unless there is some sort of gesture to bring em back. i do think we will see a lot more out of soft buttons but it will take a while.
youtube seemingly does this for me....
I too think its a total waste having the buttons never move or disappear. Its a great concept, but google didnt take advantage of it at all. I just find it wasting space. Would love if they could be hidden.
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I presume that an app can only indicate that the buttons should be hidden, and really doesn't have much more control than that?
So basically, unusable in games.
Surely there must be some sort of modification (even if it needs to go back to the kernel (forgive my ignorance if I'm totally off)) to allow us to do it?
I can understand that an app is restricted to the API provided to it, which is why I think an OS level mod needs to be done here.
I get it that this could be less convenient / more confusing, so believe that this shouldn't be in a stock ROM, but if I want to mod my phone this way, I should be able to, right?
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i don't think so. the code is there to hide them, but in video apps they show back up on simply a touch. The game developers could add code to say that they only come up when you press pause. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
on a system level i'm sure it could be done, but as we've both said. it'll be much less convenient and more confusing.
heres an example, what happens if you enable that to play a game full screen, but that game has no exit option. You now have no way out of the game. The only way to get back to your homescreen is to shut off the phone.
so then, another mod would be required, you'd need a link to the home screen from the powermenu.
so your already up to two mods to do something that most people would not want.
The better thing is to just have the keys dim when playing a game like they do in honeycomb, and not just disappear.
i would also like a ability to hide them!
I think it would be cool if the soft keys had a transparent backround maybe the buttons could fade to dots like I have seen them do.
neok44 said:
i don't think so. the code is there to hide them, but in video apps they show back up on simply a touch. The game developers could add code to say that they only come up when you press pause. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
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I haven't looked at the API, I'm just going on a hunch from what I've seen how apps react.
For example, if apps had such control over the buttons, why would they still show on touch even if screen control locking is enabled? Just a bug in the application, or perhaps just cannot be done?
neok44 said:
on a system level i'm sure it could be done, but as we've both said. it'll be much less convenient and more confusing.
heres an example, what happens if you enable that to play a game full screen, but that game has no exit option. You now have no way out of the game. The only way to get back to your homescreen is to shut off the phone.
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Take the example in the first post - erhaps an option to toggle the buttons in the power menu.
One would presume that if you're playing a game, you're not looking to exit it every minute, so it's not like you exactly need a convenient exit button. If the toggle is done through the power menu, then it makes logical sense to go back there if you with to show the buttons again.
Of course, there'll probably be people who forget about where they turned off the buttons, so yes, slightly more confusing to newbies, but if there's a custom mod which allows this type of functionality, it would be really helpful to those who do understand. (after all, if you've gone to the effort to enable such a mod, you're sure to know about it)
neok44 said:
so then, another mod would be required, you'd need a link to the home screen from the powermenu.
so your already up to two mods to do something that most people would not want.
The better thing is to just have the keys dim when playing a game like they do in honeycomb, and not just disappear.
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I'm not sure about the "two mods" proposition - you can't really have one without the other so I'd think it would be classed as one, but I don't really want to debate about semantics here (neither can I really say anything about low level requirements to perform this mod).
As for most people not wanting it, perhaps, though I think the responses in this thread shows that there are people out there interested in this, and it's not only me. The value proposition is up to someone else to decide though.
Dimming the keys does not enable more screen space, which is the whole point of completely hiding them.
i dont have a problem with them, they hide automatically on things like netflix and need for speed shift...
Galaxy Nexus Stock
/人◕‿‿ ◕人\ said:
I haven't looked at the API, I'm just going on a hunch from what I've seen how apps react.
For example, if apps had such control over the buttons, why would they still show on touch even if screen control locking is enabled? Just a bug in the application, or perhaps just cannot be done?
Take the example in the first post - erhaps an option to toggle the buttons in the power menu.
One would presume that if you're playing a game, you're not looking to exit it every minute, so it's not like you exactly need a convenient exit button. If the toggle is done through the power menu, then it makes logical sense to go back there if you with to show the buttons again.
Of course, there'll probably be people who forget about where they turned off the buttons, so yes, slightly more confusing to newbies, but if there's a custom mod which allows this type of functionality, it would be really helpful to those who do understand. (after all, if you've gone to the effort to enable such a mod, you're sure to know about it)
I'm not sure about the "two mods" proposition - you can't really have one without the other so I'd think it would be classed as one, but I don't really want to debate about semantics here (neither can I really say anything about low level requirements to perform this mod).
As for most people not wanting it, perhaps, though I think the responses in this thread shows that there are people out there interested in this, and it's not only me. The value proposition is up to someone else to decide though.
Dimming the keys does not enable more screen space, which is the whole point of completely hiding them.
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honestly not sure. could be a bug or how it'd designed. since the galaxy nexus has no other way of letting you control it, most likely it's designed so that theres no way to perminately hide them.
If you added an option in the power menu to show/hide them, then that would make it just one mod. The two mods idea was just one to make them always hide in fullscreen apps, and then another one that would give you a home link in the power menu.
but having a link in the power menu to show/hide the buttons is actually a better idea. assuming it would work. And doing it this way would allow you an easy way to turn them on and off.
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This is the closes I can get it to hide, but it's still not full screen on games. Changed the color to black. It blends in with the background, but the highlighted button press is still there. Like hidden buttons.
Using Codename Android 1.0.1 ROM, it has the option to change the color built in, as does AOKP ROM.
RogerPodacter said:
I too think its a total waste having the buttons never move or disappear. Its a great concept, but google didnt take advantage of it at all. I just find it wasting space. Would love if they could be hidden.
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actually google did take advantage of it. they added it to their own apps like youtube and gallery during video. and on other apps like phone during a call and gallery viewing pictures they hide.
So I finally scratched the itch and installed Blu Kuban last night. Thanks to various people on XDA, the install went smoothly. No moments of panic or anything. I really like how fast it feels, and the levels of customization. Not to mention, Sprint really pissed me off with their handling of our device, so I like having some power now with my phone.
I do have a few questions/observations. I'm new to the board (as a poster), so I know I can't post in Dev, so I hope this is all right and proper.
1. I looked through the various ROM options last night, and I could swear I saw some mods for switching/removing some of the toggles on top of the notification window. There's a few I don't really need. But I'm having trouble finding the option that I thought I saw last night. I went through the various update categories numerous times, and I can't find them now. If this exists, can someone point me in the right direction?
2. Speaking of options, is there one for splitting the ring/notification volume? This was something that wasn't working for me on the Oneclick I previously used, and apparently it is an ICS thing. I don't know if there's a solution for this in the ROM.
3. Timeriffic is giving me a slight display issue, and I don't know if it's an app thing or a ROM thing. When I tap on a rule to bring up its settings, the buttons for each option is dark, and I can't see what it is. The clock on the top of that window also looks different than it did previously (I used an sfhub Oneclick of ICS). I really should look around their site and see if this is an app issue, but I'm minutes away from leaving work for the day.
4. I know there's a mod to change the second shortcut on the lockscreen, to launch the dialer or text, or something. Is there an option to add more?
I've had a few isolated problems with FC's. Namely, if I tap+hold on the data toggle in the notification window, I freeze and eventually System UI force closes and reboots, sans my battery icon. Just now I had a random FC on the ROM Updater when I went to look at the boot animation mods.
Regardless though, thank you RUJELUS22 for the time and effort put into this ROM. I look forward to using it more and learning a lot along the way.
WheresTrent said:
So I finally scratched the itch and installed Blu Kuban last night. Thanks to various people on XDA, the install went smoothly. No moments of panic or anything. I really like how fast it feels, and the levels of customization. Not to mention, Sprint really pissed me off with their handling of our device, so I like having some power now with my phone.
I do have a few questions/observations. I'm new to the board (as a poster), so I know I can't post in Dev, so I hope this is all right and proper.
1. I looked through the various ROM options last night, and I could swear I saw some mods for switching/removing some of the toggles on top of the notification window. There's a few I don't really need. But I'm having trouble finding the option that I thought I saw last night. I went through the various update categories numerous times, and I can't find them now. If this exists, can someone point me in the right direction?
2. Speaking of options, is there one for splitting the ring/notification volume? This was something that wasn't working for me on the Oneclick I previously used, and apparently it is an ICS thing. I don't know if there's a solution for this in the ROM.
3. Timeriffic is giving me a slight display issue, and I don't know if it's an app thing or a ROM thing. When I tap on a rule to bring up its settings, the buttons for each option is dark, and I can't see what it is. The clock on the top of that window also looks different than it did previously (I used an sfhub Oneclick of ICS). I really should look around their site and see if this is an app issue, but I'm minutes away from leaving work for the day.
4. I know there's a mod to change the second shortcut on the lockscreen, to launch the dialer or text, or something. Is there an option to add more?
I've had a few isolated problems with FC's. Namely, if I tap+hold on the data toggle in the notification window, I freeze and eventually System UI force closes and reboots, sans my battery icon. Just now I had a random FC on the ROM Updater when I went to look at the boot animation mods.
Regardless though, thank you RUJELUS22 for the time and effort put into this ROM. I look forward to using it more and learning a lot along the way.
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Welcome to the rom it is pretty nice and to answer your questions
1: It's in "Labs".. Scroll towards the bottom of the rom updater options to see it
2: if I'm correct I think you mean the notification while on the phone.. That can be found in "general mods" in the rom updater.. It's called "in call sms notification'
3: I don't use traffic light so apologies to not knowing that answer
4: at the moment there is no option to add more.. May be something you could request though... (widget locker works good if you want more short cuts)
5: that is a known bug.. So you can long press all the other toggles but that one.. And yeah sometimes the rom update does hang but it's from usually using it with bad signal connection.. Best to use on WiFi... But when it does hang u should be able to back out of it or hold the home button get into task manage and close it
-Sent from my Blu Kuban themed Tapatalk like a Boss
WheresTrent said:
1. I looked through the various ROM options last night, and I could swear I saw some mods for switching/removing some of the toggles on top of the notification window. There's a few I don't really need. But I'm having trouble finding the option that I thought I saw last night. I went through the various update categories numerous times, and I can't find them now. If this exists, can someone point me in the right direction?
2. Speaking of options, is there one for splitting the ring/notification volume? This was something that wasn't working for me on the Oneclick I previously used, and apparently it is an ICS thing. I don't know if there's a solution for this in the ROM.
3. Timeriffic is giving me a slight display issue, and I don't know if it's an app thing or a ROM thing. When I tap on a rule to bring up its settings, the buttons for each option is dark, and I can't see what it is. The clock on the top of that window also looks different than it did previously (I used an sfhub Oneclick of ICS). I really should look around their site and see if this is an app issue, but I'm minutes away from leaving work for the day.
4. I know there's a mod to change the second shortcut on the lockscreen, to launch the dialer or text, or something. Is there an option to add more?
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1. Settings, display, quick panel.
2. Settings, sound, volume
3.when you are able to post in dev, post the name of the apps you have dark text issues on and rujelus will take a look at patching it in the next release.
4. At this time, no. You could use go locker in the play store.
Also the long press data toggle fc is a known issue. Should be resolved shortly.
I think Miguel may have misunderstood some of your questions.
Ravaged Pheonix said:
1. Settings, display, quick panel.
2. Settings, sound, volume
3.when you are able to post in dev, post the name of the apps you have dark text issues on and rujelus will take a look at patching it in the next release.
4. At this time, no. You could use go locker in the play store.
Also the long press data toggle fc is a known issue. Should be resolved shortly.
I think Miguel may have misunderstood some of your questions.
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Just looked back over it.. Ah my bad! ..
-Sent from my Blu Kuban themed Tapatalk like a Boss
MiguelHogue said:
Just looked back over it.. Ah my bad! ..
-Sent from my Blu Kuban themed Tapatalk like a Boss
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Yeah I thought you may have read too quickly. I had to look a few times myself to make sure. Usually your replies are spot on. Been known to do the same myself. NP
Thanks to both of you. Funny I spent all that time looking at the ROM Updater for the toggle settings, when it was in the stock settings.
The Timeriffic/sound issue I'm referring to is how ICS deals with the volume level for the ringer, vs. how it does the volume for notifications. My notifications have been coming out louder than my ringtones, and I'd like to level them. Especially since I get more texts than calls, and I don't want to mute my phone at work (hey, if no one else does, why should I!). As for the color issue there, I'll wait until I can post in that thread and I'll ask, but I'll also take some time to look around on Timeriffic's site. I had a similar issue with another program running one of the Oneclicks, so I wonder if it's an ICS issue, or the way some of those apps were compiled.
WheresTrent said:
Thanks to both of you. Funny I spent all that time looking at the ROM Updater for the toggle settings, when it was in the stock settings.
The Timeriffic/sound issue I'm referring to is how ICS deals with the volume level for the ringer, vs. how it does the volume for notifications. My notifications have been coming out louder than my ringtones, and I'd like to level them. Especially since I get more texts than calls, and I don't want to mute my phone at work (hey, if no one else does, why should I!). As for the color issue there, I'll wait until I can post in that thread and I'll ask, but I'll also take some time to look around on Timeriffic's site. I had a similar issue with another program running one of the Oneclicks, so I wonder if it's an ICS issue, or the way some of those apps were compiled.
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Well there are seperate volume controls for ringers and notifications in the sound volume menu.
Hello,
I used magisk to root my phone and everything's working fine but many things I want to fix and can't seem to find how to.
First of all, what's the point of rooting if only way to remove system apps are with adb? Can do this without root.
Any way to activate double tap to open close the screen when locked? Damn I hate soooo much the single tap to open it and the double tap that does nothing to close it.
Any way to remove the bottom search bar? I removed 2 packages with adb but the search bar is still there.
Any way to close/lock the phone besides the power button? Coming from HTC U11 with squeeze features, it bogs me a lot not having any other way to lock it than the power button.
I think that is it for now. I'll add if I think of more.
Thanks!
grat_master said:
Hello,
I used magisk to root my phone and everything's working fine but many things I want to fix and can't seem to find how to.
First of all, what's the point of rooting if only way to remove system apps are with adb? Can do this without root.
Any way to activate double tap to open close the screen when locked? Damn I hate soooo much the single tap to open it and the double tap that does nothing to close it.
Any way to remove the bottom search bar? I removed 2 packages with adb but the search bar is still there.
Any way to close/lock the phone besides the power button? Coming from HTC U11 with squeeze features, it bogs me a lot not having any other way to lock it than the power button.
I think that is it for now. I'll add if I think of more.
Thanks!
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Custom roms and kernels
nope
not on stock rom. not sure about custom as I haven't tried any yet
not sure what you mean hear...
thomas.raines said:
Custom roms and kernels
nope
not on stock rom. not sure about custom as I haven't tried any yet
not sure what you mean hear...
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Maybe with a custom rom I can remove the useless bottom screen search bar. Is it only working with chrome or can it work with any browser?
What I meant is with HTC U11 you can squeeze the phone to do things like open the camera, take a picture, open led lights, and most importantly lock the phone and close the screen. I was wondering if the 4a 5g can lock screen by another mean than power button.
Also I just found out there are no notifications led. How do you guys know if you have sms or emails or whatnot?
grat_master said:
Maybe with a custom rom I can remove the useless bottom screen search bar. Is it only working with chrome or can it work with any browser?
What I meant is with HTC U11 you can squeeze the phone to do things like open the camera, take a picture, open led lights, and most importantly lock the phone and close the screen. I was wondering if the 4a 5g can lock screen by another mean than power button.
Also I just found out there are no notifications led. How do you guys know if you have sms or emails or whatnot?
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I reformatted my phone just to see what you mean about bottom search bar. The only way that I know of to remove it, install a different launcher... i.e. nova launcher, apex launcher, etc... refer to playstore
No squeezing here... Use power button
When your phone makes the notification noise and or vibrates... Like I told my wife several phones ago... Learned to live without it or get a different phone and do your research before you buy it.