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So the official GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus (http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html)
is supposed to have xxkk6 radio (radio-maguro-i9250xxkk6.img)
I read in another place that the Asian varian has a different radio, and the canadian varians also have different radios. So being that the GSM Galaxy Nexus is not officially in the US on ATT or T-Mobile I was wondering wich radio is best to use on the T-Mobile network?
North American code is UG, I think UGKL01 is the newest released radio.
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I am using ugkk7. Look in dev section to see if there are any updates.
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I'm using XXKK6 - it's been working fairly well for me. Probably gonna try out one of the UG roms.
i'm currently on UGKL1, live in denver colorado (where t-mobile has 4G coverage) and i dont get any type of HSPA+ speeds, on a good day my down is only 5891kbps and my up is a mere 1243kbps (same speeds as my Nexus S).
maybe US radios are optimized for CDMA networks, i'll switch to XXKK1 later and see if it helps - anyone actually get 4G speeds yet? if so, which radio are you on?
Probably best to use a UG based radio if you're in NA. I'm on UGKL1 and it's fine. I accidentally flashed an XX radio before and data would cut out a lot...
i updated to stock 4.0.2 for tmo and i'm getting 10mps down and 2 up around my area of the woods.
kk6 radio band.
phi303 said:
i'm currently on UGKL1, live in denver colorado (where t-mobile has 4G coverage) and i dont get any type of HSPA+ speeds, on a good day my down is only 5891kbps and my up is a mere 1243kbps (same speeds as my Nexus S).
maybe US radios are optimized for CDMA networks, i'll switch to XXKK1 later and see if it helps - anyone actually get 4G speeds yet? if so, which radio are you on?
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I got 8.99Mbs down and 3.69Mbs up, in the Tech Center this morning. I usually get around 3-5Mbs down Downtown. I'm on the stock 4.0.2 XXKK6 radio.
G__ROW said:
I got 8.99Mbs down and 3.69Mbs up, in the Tech Center this morning. I usually get around 3-5Mbs down Downtown. I'm on the stock 4.0.2 XXKK6 radio.
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I get about the same down in Parker with the same stock radio on 4.0.2. I have not tried any other radios yet, but my wife's HTC Amaze is twice as fast as expected.
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XXKK6 was the best for me in Chicago and now in Dayton, OH
phi303 said:
i'm currently on UGKL1, live in denver colorado (where t-mobile has 4G coverage) and i dont get any type of HSPA+ speeds, on a good day my down is only 5891kbps and my up is a mere 1243kbps (same speeds as my Nexus S).
maybe US radios are optimized for CDMA networks, i'll switch to XXKK1 later and see if it helps - anyone actually get 4G speeds yet? if so, which radio are you on?
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If your tower doesn't have any more capacity available, it doesnt matter what *you* do. There's only 21mbps (or 42, depending on where you live) per tower sector to go around to every user in your sector. If it's 21mbps, all you need is 3 other active people on your tower to get those speeds (factor in radio link loss too).
Long story short, not a single thing you can do to control your speeds. And judging a radio's "ability" based upon speed test results is extremely inaccurate.
And the nexus only reaches 21mbps on T-Mobile anyways so there's that. The north American radios are optimized for Canada.
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For a quick list of all radios out so far, check my radio thread:
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So my area JUST got 4G on a partnered carrier that TMOUS shares. Im getting 4g on my Sensation but am thinking about getting the GSM Galaxy Nexus. We went from Edge to 4G. All i want to know is if i will be able to get 4g on the Galaxy Nexus for TMOUS?
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So my area JUST got 4G on a partnered carrier that TMOUS shares. Im getting 4g on my Sensation but am thinking about getting the GSM Galaxy Nexus. We went from Edge to 4G. All i want to know is if i will be able to get 4g on the Galaxy Nexus for TMOUS?
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If you get it on the Sensation theres no reason why you wouldn't get it on the Nexus.
I was using the KK6 radio that came with my phone (assuming it was a UK one since it had a UK style plug in the box) but within 2 days of getting the phone I had dropped signal errors where only a reboot would fix it. I moved to UGKK7 and haven't had any issues since. Pretty sure my speed is slower though (haven't testing yet) so if you have no issues with KK6 keep it.
i've been on KK6 for about two weeks now, speeds never go above 5.5down - i guess i dont have very good HSPA+ coverage north of denver. i also have to turn on and off airplane mode once a day to fix connection issues.
I'm using XXKL1. I get speeds near 5-7 Mbps. Sometimes 9-10 if I get lucky.
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XXKK6 was the best for me in Chicago and now in Dayton, OH
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I'm also in Chicago on the xxkk6 radio and I never seem to be able to get above 3-5mb down and .5-1mb up. I've also noticed that it shows "3g" as the connection status most of the time, save for when it momentarily shows an H at times.
Anyone have a clear answer on what is displayed when you attain an HSPA+ connection w/ this phone? I find it weird that with the dense 4G coverage in Chicago, I can't seem to get any better speeds than what I get w/ my N1.
Cheers, dudes.
polarizeme said:
I'm also in Chicago on the xxkk6 radio and I never seem to be able to get above 3-5mb down and .5-1mb up. I've also noticed that it shows "3g" as the connection status most of the time, save for when it momentarily shows an H at times.
Anyone have a clear answer on what is displayed when you attain an HSPA+ connection w/ this phone? I find it weird that with the dense 4G coverage in Chicago, I can't seem to get any better speeds than what I get w/ my N1.
Cheers, dudes.
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Those sound like pretty standard 4g speeds to me. On a good day I get 10mbs. It really depends on how many people are sharing your tower. People with Verizon LTE are reaping the benefits of new technology without many users.
As for the icon I believe the GSM radio switches to 3g when no data is being transferred and switches to H when active to save power.
Hey guys I just got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday and I've been noticing that I am not getting 4G or 4G speeds in the areas that I used to with my Galaxy S 2. Just so you know I'm on T-mobile. I haven't seen 4G or a 4G speed once. What's going on? I'm running CM9 Nightly
GS2 and galaxy nexus do not have the same HSPA radio
GS is 42mbit
GN is 21mbit
also the icon on the GSM GN is just H
Zepius said:
GS2 and galaxy nexus do not have the same HSPA radio
GS is 42mbit
GN is 21mbit
also the icon on the GSM GN is just H
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Oh dang. Well that really sucks.
GSM Nexus do not have LTE radio, you need to get the LTE Nexus, which i believe is carrier locked.
Mach3.2 said:
GSM Nexus do not have LTE radio, you need to get the LTE Nexus, which i believe is carrier locked.
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T-Mobile USA doesn't have LTE, so it doesn't matter what device he gets.
OP, what are your speeds? Sounds like you're falling for some serious marketing speak. The T-Mobile branded SGSII has 42mbps HSPA+ radio compared to the 21mbps HSPA+ radio in the Galaxy Nexus. Real-world speeds will be a bit lower, that's just how it is.
Also, the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have a "4G" icon. When its connected to HSPA+ you'll see an "H" icon. It'll be connected to the exact same network. Its just an icon.
I understand that. I just though the gnex was 42mbps hspa. I'm getting 3-6 mbps real world whereas before I was getting 9-15
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Tynen said:
I understand that. I just though the gnex was 42mbps hspa. I'm getting 3-6 mbps real world whereas before I was getting 9-15
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hmm. Well that's too big of a gap to blame it on the radio. I easily post 9mbps on mine. And the blame is all on you. Its extremely well documented this device is 21mbps.
Totally. What's speed on att radio?
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Tynen said:
Totally. What's speed on att radio?
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I don't get what you're asking...
HSPA+ (H) is being marketed as 4G on T-Mobile.
Tynen said:
Totally. What's speed on att radio?
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I get like 5-6Mbps on ATT, but that's the Max I ever get with all my phones. So its normal for ATT I say.
I am really curious about this as well. I have speed tested a GSII and a One S and seen speeds around 20mb, where I get a consistent 3.5mb in the same place with my GN.
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ofsinreno said:
I am really curious about this as well. I have speed tested a GSII and a One S and seen speeds around 20mb, where I get a consistent 3.5mb in the same place with my GN.
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Okay, 20mbps on T-Mobile? Sorry, don't think that's a standard consistant speed you can reproduce. There's no way you held a SGSII and a GN next to each other, one getting 20mbps and the other getting 3.5mbps. Something is wrong there.
Realize the speeds are different, but cmon. I get 7-9mbps on my GNex + T-Mo no problem.
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Okay, 20mbps on T-Mobile? Sorry, don't think that's a standard consistant speed you can reproduce. There's no way you held a SGSII and a GN next to each other, one getting 20mbps and the other getting 3.5mbps. Something is wrong there.
Realize the speeds are different, but cmon. I get 7-9mbps on my GNex + T-Mo no problem.
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The review of the one s on tmonews shows consistent speeds of 20mbps+.
I know the One s is "42mbps" but I do sometimes wonder if they are holding non-tmobile phones down.
My sensation speeds were crap when I moved from the nexus one initially. I changed my phone on my account from unknown to the sensation and I was getting consistent 7-9mbps instantly. The sensation is only 14.4mbps.
I rarely get 9mbps with the GNex.
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Okay, 20mbps on T-Mobile? Sorry, don't think that's a standard consistant speed you can reproduce. There's no way you held a SGSII and a GN next to each other, one getting 20mbps and the other getting 3.5mbps. Something is wrong there.
Realize the speeds are different, but cmon. I get 7-9mbps on my GNex + T-Mo no problem.
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Yeah, I know there is something wrong, that's why I have been asking around. And to be honest it was the One S that was hitting 20+ consistently, the GSII hit 14-18mb while I never hit faster than 3.6. If anyone had anything helpful let me know, I have already tried two or three different radios with no noticeable difference, and I have read about some kernels having a data speed lock problem, so I tried different kernels with no noticeable difference as well. And in the end, I have never hit any higher than 3.8 download speed with my GN here in Reno and we do have the 42mb towers.
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I get over 7 Mbps easily. Phone set to unknown on my account. highest was 11 Mbps xxla2
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I always thought that as long as the tower back haul is not maxed out, a 21 Mbps and 42 Mbps phone should get identical speeds as long as you're not hitting any of the limits. So I mean if the 42 Mbps phone pulls down 15 Mbps, then the 21 Mbps phone should also pull down 15 Mbps, up till the 21 Mbps limit.
So I'd say its artificially limited by T-Mobile giving preference to their phones over unlocked phones. Or some wrong apn setting.
I have been getting about 5mpbs down consistently. Have tried lots of different radios with matching RIL. My sisters phone next to mine with the same server and gets 12mpbs.
Anyone have any suggestions or is there something I'm missing?
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Ichibahn SLC said:
I have been getting about 5mpbs down consistently. Have tried lots of different radios with matching RIL. My sisters phone next to mine with the same server and gets 12mpbs.
Anyone have any suggestions or is there something I'm missing?
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8 Mbps down, Chicago, Stock US baseband and RIL.
What's the other phone?
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HTC amaze. We are in Salt Lake City. Using slimICS.
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HTC amaze. We are in Salt Lake City. Using slimICS.
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She has a 42Mbps radio and you have a 21Mbps radio. It makes a bit of a difference. Honestly, however, there are very few situations where anything over 3Mbps is necessary on modern smartphones. Also, speed tests are like benchmarks, they aren't entirely indicative of real world usage results.
There are also several threads about speeds on T-Mobile.
It doesn't help that after the official 4G specifications were essentially trashed, 4G is little more than a meaningless marketing term.
As said.. her phone is capable of achieving higher speeds as the Nexus tops out at 21mbps
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
Shouldnt we still be getting similar speed though? Just because hers has a 42 mbps vs my 21 mbps shouldn't that just mean that mine would only be getting 21 where hers would get 30 for example?
Edit: I meant if we where in an area hers got 30 in, mine would only get 21.
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Logically, yes but that is not how it works. There is probably a much larger throughput for her device.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
Fastest I got with a Nexus is 8Mbps. You will want to get the Galaxy S3 for T-Mobile if you want faster, I guess it will support 42Mbps. Near the celltower, I got 24Mbps down speed with my T-Mo SII.
I rather have better signal penetration than high speed though, maybe their 1900MHz band upgrade will provide that. With T-Mobile, I still need to be near the windows source to use the internet consistently.
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Logically, yes but that is not how it works. There is probably a much larger throughput for her device.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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Its because of some sort of dual band HSPA+ that T-Mobile devices have. Instead of a single band of 42 it has dual 21 bands. I read that on T-Mobile's FAQ somewhere.
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Is there a way to fix this? I was just doing a test next to a SII on T-Mo. My GNex got 3MB while the SII got 13MB. What the hey? According the the signal bar, I had full bars as did the SII.
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Is there a way to fix this? I was just doing a test next to a SII on T-Mo. My GNex got 3MB while the SII got 13MB. What the hey? According the the signal bar, I had full bars as did the SII.
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The T-Mobile SII has higher throughput capability, deal with it. You can't fix "existing components" of a Ford Fiesta to make it drive as fast as a Ferrari. (Unless it was a WRC Fiesta, but that's a different story.)
You could flash different radios to your Nexus which can potentially improve the overall signal, but not to the point where it can compare with the T-Mo SII in term of outright download speed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
Be careful of flashing the wrong radio for your phone region though or you can brick the device, but you can always flash factory image to fix it.
I've gotten 38 mb/s download speeds in Chicago.
Edit: Yes I do have verizon though, I wanted to clarify that the Nexus is capable of download speeds greater than 21.
Moonkae said:
I've gotten 38 mb/s download speeds in Chicago.
Edit: Yes I do have verizon though, I wanted to clarify that the Nexus is capable of download speeds greater than 21.
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Vzw/sprint lte nexus, this thread is specifically about GSM (T-Mobile) galaxy nexus.
Also, how is that relevant to this thread?
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OP, what you're experiencing is normal, as others have said. It'll probably even be different from another 21Mbps device.
Frankly, speed difference to me is noticeable only under 2Mbps or so - when loading a webpage or HQ video tends to be delayed.
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Vzw/sprint lte nexus, this thread is specifically about GSM (T-Mobile) galaxy nexus.
Also, how is that relevant to this thread?
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It's not. He's an idiot.
Not be rude but in the U.S. we're kind of lucky for an unlocked phone to get HSPA+. Most unlocked international phones can only get 2G EDGE.
I remember when I had Virgin Mobile and $25 for unlimited, uncalled data was a great deal. At first I could get usable 3G speeds of about 1.5 or 2 Mbps then as soon as everyone bought that cheap Optimus the network was overcrowded and then I got anywhere from 60 Kbps to 600 Kbps.
It took about 7 minutes to start loading a YouTube video. After that horrible experience with Sprint Network I'll never complain about data speeds again.
I'm glad to have T-Mobile's data speeds and I don't really care about getting dedicated fiber optic T3 speeds on an LTE phone.
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Moonkae said:
I've gotten 38 mb/s download speeds in Chicago.
Edit: Yes I do have verizon though, I wanted to clarify that the Nexus is capable of download speeds greater than 21.
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"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
Seriously, 5mbps or so is good enough for what most phones do these days.
Why is it that the gsm gnex has slower data speeds running on t-mo/att than their carrier branded phones? I'm using t-mo and my gs2 will outperform my gnex in data speeds any day of the week. I know this is the norm, but why are gsm phones slower?
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Why is it that the gsm gnex has slower data speeds running on t-mo/att than their carrier branded phones? I'm using t-mo and my gs2 will outperform my gnex in data speeds any day of the week. I know this is the norm, but why are gsm phones slower?
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I've always thought the same but I'm sure it's because the branded phones are tested in house at the respective carriers and tuned to the best operating radios. Our GSM phones just have to work with all radios at optimum level. T-mobile has months to fine tune their phones for release just for their network. That makes the difference.
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nexicon said:
I've always thought the same but I'm sure it's because the branded phones are tested in house at the respective carriers and tuned to the best operating radios. Our GSM phones just have to work with all radios at optimum level. T-mobile has months to fine tune their phones for release just for their network. That makes the difference.
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The gsm gnex from the playstore is listed as an hspa+ device that works with att/t-mo. So its a radio/modem issue?
Your Hercules is a Tmo HSPA+42 device while the GN is "only" 21. So, you should see max speeds of about 20-25mbps for the Herc and upwards of 9 on the Nexus.
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Why is it that the gsm gnex has slower data speeds running on t-mo/att than their carrier branded phones? I'm using t-mo and my gs2 will outperform my gnex in data speeds any day of the week. I know this is the norm, but why are gsm phones slower?
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The T-Mobile SGSII has a 42mbps HSPA+ radio, the GNex has a 21mbps HSPA+ radio. That's why you see a difference in speeds.
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The T-Mobile SGSII has a 42mbps HSPA+ radio, the GNex has a 21mbps HSPA+ radio. That's why you see a difference in speeds.
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I don't agree with this statement personally. Unless your in an area where you actually get those speeds it shouldn't matter. My previous phone, SGS4G, was a 21mbps HSPA+ device and saw the same speeds as my friends Tmo GS2. Both topped out around 10mbps down, best I've seen with my Gnex is 8, so not much worse but a little slower.
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95Z28 said:
I don't agree with this statement personally. Unless your in an area where you actually get those speeds it shouldn't matter. My previous phone, SGS4G, was a 21mbps HSPA+ device and saw the same speeds as my friends Tmo GS2. Both topped out around 10mbps down, best I've seen with my Gnex is 8, so not much worse but a little slower.
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If you're in an area with 42mbps towers deployed, then the speeds will definitely be higher on the 42mbps HSPA+ device. That's just how it is. The radio just gives you more headroom, so it has a higher theoretical max speed. Most areas nowadays are rolled out with 42mbps service on T-Mobile. If all you want is faster speeds, then the T-Mobile branded devices are a better choice than an unlocked device that likely only has a 14.4mbps or 21mbps radio.
Anyone else having insanely slow 4G speeds on their Android devices after the iPhone 5 release? I did a side-by-side speedtest on the same server, 35mbps on the iPhone 5 and 5mpbs on the Galaxy Nexus.
I do believe the iphone 5 is lte and the galaxy nexus is not, just hsdpa. The lte network also has fewer phones currently due to being new and only in few markets.
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I do believe the iphone 5 is lte and the galaxy nexus is not, just hsdpa. The lte network also has fewer phones currently due to being new and only in few markets.
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The 2 cdma (sprint and verizon) variants of the galaxy nexus in the USA are lte devices.
@op, no. On verizon results are right on par with previous speed results with lte on the nexus.
good day.
rosenbaa29 said:
Anyone else having insanely slow 4G speeds on their Android devices after the iPhone 5 release? I did a side-by-side speedtest on the same server, 35mbps on the iPhone 5 and 5mpbs on the Galaxy Nexus.
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If LTE was being affected, it would slow down speeds for both phones assuming they're in the same place on the same network (and tower). The iPhone doesn't have its own separate network...
One phone getting 35mbps and another 5mbps is a fluke. They should both be roughly the same assuming they have the same signal strength.
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One phone getting 35mbps and another 5mbps is a fluke. They should both be roughly the same assuming they have the same signal strength.
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and assuming you used the same location (as in the server location) for the speed test.
Yep
verzion bc it has many tower... if there is no tower close by then you will not get 4g or 3g u will be on edge..
how i know.. my co-worker called up sprint to see whats wrong with his samsung galaxy s3
Is it possible the account for the nexus is in the 5% that gets throttled on high traffic towers?