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Will this phone every get a more conventional root?

Coming from HTC/Motorola phones primarily the development for this phone has confused me a bit. Those phones used to get a normal root method pretty soon after release without having to worry about messing around the kernal.
Is there going to be a day where you can just root it and leave the kernal alone or is the kernal/root thing exclusive to Samsung phones?

Whsn i was on att i would use superoneclick. I too was wondering this.
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We need this.
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The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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Yeah I have to say this was a very easy process to root coming from an evo4g
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I think he meant the fact that ur using the kernel to get to root instaed the more conventional root method we are used to seeing on devices like htc and so on. It is pretty strange the fact u flash a kernel and then flash to get root its typically gain root then flash somethingy. Or at least thats what my noob ass is used to lol
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stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.

Only solution is to just wait, I don't think many would be working on another root method because this one isn't complex, is noob friendly and works 100% I don't see any pressing reason for another method
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Yup I hear ya. You can always root then odin bubbys pulled stock kernel for a complete stock root. It's not one click but it's close. Only draw back it there is no recovery.
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Conventional root?
What is that?

Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Unless you can get hold of Samsung's signing keys for creating a signed update.zip or find a new exploit (which would have to be fixed eventually because exploits are essentially security holes) you are pretty much stuck with the current methods.
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squshy 7 said:
Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Wow,so no more one click roost with cwm then we can flash any kernel and be good? Shizznit, one click was good stuff
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I miss z4root. Im not a newber but I know I like my simplicity redundantly simple.
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Honestly odin is pretty the one click we need.
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Dude samsung released the source and practically handed us root on a silver platter
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gpgorbosjr said:
All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.
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Why should anyone find a exploit to root the phone when the bootloader
Is open and allows you to root much easier....google keeps closing holes in software making it harder and harder to root ...its not a htc where they s-off the phone .....this will probably be the only way to root because there is no reason to find another
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What could be easier than putting this in Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415 and hitting the start button

I think the point people are trying to make here is that they wish there was a way to have root and recovery and remain bone stock. So far there is no way to do this. Alot of people don't want to flash a custom kernel at this point because of all the problems people are reporting. Myself included. I am still stock and won't root until devs get this stuff sorted. Maybe koush will figure it out...
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It's not really clear from the titles in the development section, but there is a way to root without flashing a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282418
That's a stock system image, simply modified to include root. No kernel at all.

What are the Biggest advantages of Rooting SGS2 at this point??

So I am coming from a rooted and heavily flashed Sensation, we had several ROM's, and I tried them all. I know this phone is very new and the Devs haven't even begun with this device, but so far I don't see really any reason to root? Are there at least any cool tweaks I am missing? Again, I know it's all coming, but am I missing something super cool we can do on a rooted SGS2 yet? I want to join the fun, but I don't see much to get excited about (yet).

The roms the are out are well worth rooting for
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Couldn't agree more. Just the ability to back up your device should be reason enough alone to root. A better question is why would you not!
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even ignoring the fact of ROMs
you will need root, to gain full access to Titanium Backup, which is the #1 must have tool for migrating from one phone to another phone

right now i would say the roms, the beastrom i got is amazing, better battery life and data speeds!

The main reason I rooted was to get rid of all the bloat.
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AllGamer said:
even ignoring the fact of ROMs
you will need root, to gain full access to Titanium Backup, which is the #1 must have tool for migrating from one phone to another phone
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+1
And again, why wouldn't you root? All it does is give you complete access to your phone. Whether you use that access or not is up to you, but there's no good reason not to have it. You can always unroot if you need to return your phone and use your warranty.

Rooting and installing the EaglesBlood ROM has more than doubled my battery life.
If that's not enough reason to root, I don't know what is.

What about the portable hot spot without fee thats a big one!

Replacing the standard Gmail apk (the one found on the market) and putting this modified apk (found here):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16263121
In its place, which releases the power of Gmail unread count Widgets and launchers.
You need root to manually replace the Gmail.apk within /system/app/ folder with the modified version.
Oh yeah... also the ability to nandroid backup.
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Honestly, I'd really love to root and what not, but I really effed up my Continuum on Verizon using ODIN so I'm real scared to use it again. I wish you could just use Gingerbreak or something easy like that.
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I rooted to remove bloat and to install TB, adblocker, terminal and cwm. I'm still on stock and don't see a need to flash roms now cuz everything working great. I'm holding out for ICS which you will need root for if you want it early.
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That seems like a good idea. I honestly can't complain with stock right now and would like to wait until something besides an ODIN root comes out.
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sportsinger75 said:
Honestly, I'd really love to root and what not, but I really effed up my Continuum on Verizon using ODIN so I'm real scared to use it again. I wish you could just use Gingerbreak or something easy like that.
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sportsinger75 said:
That seems like a good idea. I honestly can't complain with stock right now and would like to wait until something besides an ODIN root comes out.
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Seemed pretty easy and straightforward to me. Much easier than rooting my G2. Had a little hiccup trying to put it in d/l mode since this was my first time using odin, but figured it out fast enough. Just turn off your phone, plug in your usb, and then turn it on while holding vol up and vol down at the same time. Should go into d/l mode instead of recovery.

sofakingstoked said:
so i am coming from a rooted and heavily flashed sensation, we had several rom's, and i tried them all. I know this phone is very new and the devs haven't even begun with this device, but so far i don't see really any reason to root? Are there at least any cool tweaks i am missing? Again, i know it's all coming, but am i missing something super cool we can do on a rooted sgs2 yet? I want to join the fun, but i don't see much to get excited about (yet).
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after rooting it you can delete the thethering manager app.apk from the sytem/app so you can use your built in wifi thether for free yo.

I would do it for the ability to fully use titanium backup and to have full access to your phone.
I did it for those reasons alone. Im not a rom jumper and I stick to stock and unless a rom way different than stock comes, I'll stick to stock.
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so you can use your built in wifi thether for free yo.
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Of all the T-Mobile phones I've used this seems to have the most bloatware....rooting definitely helps getting rid of all of it. Dev support also seems to be growing. I have the latest EaglesBlood Rom and could not be happier. now getting better battery life and overall greater speed and smoothness.
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I have a Tmobile Samsung Galaxy S2 and a mac so as of now I can't really root the phone because its windows only for the root. I'm waiting for a mac abled one click root.
Other then that, this is my first Android (came from the iPhone 4) and wanted to know how do you guys decide which rom to use? Also, how hard is it to flash to different roms? I can do it after I root correct and if I do change rom's I would not have to reroot would I?
Thanks

le14 said:
I have a Tmobile Samsung Galaxy S2 and a mac so as of now I can't really root the phone because its windows only for the root. I'm waiting for a mac abled one click root.
Other then that, this is my first Android (came from the iPhone 4) and wanted to know how do you guys decide which rom to use? Also, how hard is it to flash to different roms? I can do it after I root correct and if I do change rom's I would not have to reroot would I?
Thanks
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once rooted it's fairly simple with CWR manager
the alternative to Odin is to use Heimdall, which is cross platform compatible

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once rooted it's fairly simple with CWR manager
the alternative to Odin is to use Heimdall, which is cross platform compatible
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would there be a tutorial for rooting with a mac using heimdall? this would be my first time rooting an android and I don't want to brick anything.

Really want the 4.0.2 update for my Gnex

I know I could root and install 4.0.2 but I'm fairly new to android and bought my gnex unlocked from Negri so I don't think I have a warranty and don't really wanna chance anything. Anyone have any solutions or info on when and how I can update to 4.0.2? 4.0.1 has just given me quite a few problems and caused me to restore twice. Also I want Wallet
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Don't be scared. There's a whole world of flashing ecstasy waiting for you Come and join the fun. Worst case, you can always relock your bootloader and return to stock.

Manually flash 4.0.2. Thats what i did. May as well if you unlock bootloader because it wipes your phone. And you do have warranty through negri. You just need to deal with negri as your intermediary for support. If you go contacting samsung directly then you might lose warranty.
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Your logic makes no sense, you won't mod because you don't have warranty. But modding voids your warranty.

There is honestly nothing to be scared of...
Try one of the ROMs from developers section while you're at it. Android Revolution is what I'm on, and it's a great 4.0.2 ROM.
After you've gotten clockworkmod on your phone, Nandroid backup becomes your security. If you ever mess up, just restore, and you'll be back up and running as if nothing happened.

Actually it makes sense along the realm of if I mod and brick to the point of no return I'm **** out of luck...why so grumpy? Is a newbie to the ecosystem not allowed to get on here and learn?
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If you aren't comfortable doing it, don't do it. If you aren't comfortable enough after reading the rooting and unlocking guides, then don't do it.

You can't brick your phone, at most it'll be a softbrick that can be easily fixed.
If you really want it, you'll have to earn it. Nothing in life is ever free. And why 4.0.2? get 4.0.3

Actually that's not the problem. I bought a nexus s several months ago and did the works on it to get ics on it early so I'm not afraid of doing it...I'm just worried about getting myself in a situation at some point after that I can't fix. After I put the ics from on the nexus s using clockwork recovery I couldn't get the device to flash any other roms and all the research in the world couldn't help me so those are really the only things im weary of
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There's a host of friendly people here who'd happily help you through it. PM me if you decide to take the plunge and I'd be happy to guide.
It's not just the bugs you'll be ironing out but you'll get other features like overclock and battery saving settings etc.

Thanks
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crookone10 said:
Actually that's not the problem. I bought a nexus s several months ago and did the works on it to get ics on it early so I'm not afraid of doing it...I'm just worried about getting myself in a situation at some point after that I can't fix. After I put the ics from on the nexus s using clockwork recovery I couldn't get the device to flash any other roms and all the research in the world couldn't help me so those are really the only things im weary of
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Well, its hard to brick a phone. Always fastboot flash your radios and recoveries. If rom manager makes a bad flash, that is when you might have problems. Dont break fastboot and youre good to go. And i think with samsung, you have odin to fall back on if you do f up fastboot.
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Root isn't technically required. You just have to unlock the bootloader (which doesn't void your warranty) then manually flash the update. That's what I did. The hardest part was getting the drivers to work properly on my PC. After that it was cake.
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also there is a fantastic toolkit to install CWM and unlock the bootloader, which makes it really easy. only thing you have to do is to install the adb/fastboot drivers and follow the guides.
if you need any help, feel free to pm me
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samizad said:
There's a host of friendly people here who'd happily help you through it. PM me if you decide to take the plunge and I'd be happy to guide.
It's not just the bugs you'll be ironing out but you'll get other features like overclock and battery saving settings etc.
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Exactly as @samizad said he is more than willing to help & so are most people here,That's what xda was setup for.Don't be afraid because every time you do something new you learn.Every phone I have ever owned I immediately unlocked & rooted and I have never run into a problem I couldn't fix myself,I have also owned every Nexus device & not once did I ever have to warranty any of them.Rooting provides so many benefits.If you need any help let me know.
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Thanks for all the responses guys
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crookone10 said:
After I put the ics from on the nexus s using clockwork recovery I couldn't get the device to flash any other roms and all the research in the world couldn't help me so those are really the only things im weary of
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fastboot, fastboot, fastboot and fastboot. that and odin.
Learn to use more than just CWM
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Also ... If you have fastboot working, there is no NEED to even flash clockworkmod recovery. Your Nexus can boot from code hosted outside it. That's how hard it is to brick.
Just try it!
Code:
fastboot boot recovery-clockworkmod-5.5.0.2-maguro.img
And voila. No need to even flash alternate recovery to do recoveryish stuff. I love this phone.

[Q] Ordered the galaxy nexus, what to expect?

Hey guys, just recently ordered the nexus last weekend, should be here sometime this week.
I'm coming from the G2x and from experiencing so many bugs on it with little to no support, I decided to get the nexus.
However I just had this question on my mind for awhile now..
What are the benefits of installing custom roms for the nexus?
I used to install custom roms to get rid of bloatware but since the nexus will come with stock android with no 3rd party apps, is it even necessary to flash a different rom?
Lastly, what type of awesomeness will I experience once I get the phone?

I've had my Nexus for a little over a week and I haven't rooted or installed any custom rooms. ICS is beautiful enough for me. I will probably root sometime down the line but for now I'll just keep enjoying stock.
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First of all: !!ALL QUESTIONS GO IN THE Q&A FORUM!! OR THEY WILL BE DELETED!
That out of the way, you should read. This exact same thread has been made ~12,000 times since this phone came out. The answer isn't specific to this phone either. The benefits/costs of rooting are pretty universal with Android devices, with the exception that a Nexus is trivially easy to root and return to stock if need be.
Whether or not you choose to flash a ROM or if you deem it "necessary" is up to you.

First of all ... . No negative Nancy's!!!!!! Help him out and don't be a jackass about it. The phone is great with or without roms. Just enjoy it! Congrats
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genethebean33 said:
First of all ... . No negative Nancy's!!!!!! Help him out and don't be a jackass about it. The phone is great with or without roms. Just enjoy it! Congrats
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Actually martonikaj is right, these threads are at least twice a day.
Search is free.

1. Benefits are tweaked out/optimized kernels and the ROMs are tweaked/optimized for speed and battery life. Some have extra options that the stock ICS does not offer.
2. The nexus does not have carrier ware/bloat/ overlays. Its the way Android was intended to be.
3. EPIC Awesomeness!

You'll experience sadness, tears, sorrow. Sorry.
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New siii, how do i..

Longtime blackberry user. I think I am going to try Diets rom, is there a good tutorial available? Do I also have to "root" it?
Thanks!

Read my friend....everything you need to know to begin this great adventure... put a pot of coffee on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728824
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I just got my S3 on Monday, my first Android device.
I followed the same tutorial defnow provided, specifically, the clockworkmod one. I also have chosen diet rom as my rom to use from all the praise given from this community.
And yes, you have to root, the order you should do it in is
1. root
2. clockworkmod
3. flash your Diet rom.
Hope I helped!

meaintsmart said:
I just got my S3 on Monday, my first Android device.
I followed the same tutorial defnow provided, specifically, the clockworkmod one. I also have chosen diet rom as my rom to use from all the praise given from this community.
And yes, you have to root, the order you should do it in is
1. root
2. clockworkmod
3. flash your Diet rom.
Hope I helped!
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+1^^^ Also, usually when you flash a rom you should wipe your data before flashing. This holds true for most roms.
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I just graduated from an Atrix 4G to the Galaxy S3 today. AT&T - Garnet Red variety. So far...absolutely loving the phone. Rather close group of friends and I from my work are quite enthusiast when it comes to rooting and flashing custom roms and the like. Several of my friends own Galaxy Notes. But coming from an extensive learning romp from my Atrix - which I beat to death and rom-flipped about 9 thousand (and one) times a week. I can vouch for everyones comments that you should always tread carefully once you venture into the realm of Custom ROMs. I only soft-bricked my Atrix once...and I recovered from it rather gracefully (Read: Clumsily). Just keep your head on straight and don't freak out. Accidents are bound to happen, and if you follow the guides and faq's you should be able to enjoy yourself and enjoy the wonders of custom roms without too much fear of turning you beautiful S3 into a brick. Yar

je61 said:
Longtime blackberry user. I think I am going to try Diets rom, is there a good tutorial available? Do I also have to "root" it?
Thanks!
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Welcome to the android world! A few years ago I was like you. As everyone has stated above read and then enjoy choosing what YOU want on your phone. I never looked back and I'm sure you won't either.
Lots of help in these forums. Just read about what to do first before jumping in.
Good luck and enjoy your SGSIII:thumbup:
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