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I noticed as soon as I turned my Nexus on today that there was a line across the screen that looked like dirt under the display.
It is only noticeable on low brightness but the auto brightness set the phone to minimum when I turned it on so I saw it. I can only also see it on bright backgrounds like the forum - it is not visible on dark backgrounds or the home screens.
Does anyone else have this issue? I will return it soon and get it replaced but I am wondering if this is widespread or I was just unlucky.
Try turning the brightness right down and looking at this page and see if you see any lines/marks under the glass.
I have a line as well but it's quite small so I'm not really bothered.
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Few very feint lines here too. Setting phone to fixed second lowest brightness setting and they vanish though.
This issue is on the gs2's too.
if you go to every forum of a phone that launches you will see the same complaint. its a plague
Spinstorm said:
I noticed as soon as I turned my Nexus on today that there was a line across the screen that looked like dirt under the display.
It is only noticeable on low brightness but the auto brightness set the phone to minimum when I turned it on so I saw it. I can only also see it on bright backgrounds like the forum - it is not visible on dark backgrounds or the home screens.
Does anyone else have this issue? I will return it soon and get it replaced but I am wondering if this is widespread or I was just unlucky.
Try turning the brightness right down and looking at this page and see if you see any lines/marks under the glass.
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I can also see two faint grey vertical lines on either side of the screen if I have a light (white) background and brightness settings 1-3!
I haven't come across any other issues, I only noticed it after reading this thread and now its in bugging me. But I love the handset.. better than I expected!
Are these lines normal or do I have a duff handset? I have a couple of weeks to change it if necessary but I am also aware of the stock availability due to high demand.
Anyone else in same situation (O2 UK handset)?
I have the same issue on the lowest brightness, but not on the highest. It is also very faintly noticeable on my SGS2 on the lowest brightness. On my Omnia 7 (samoled) it is also very visible on low brightness, I think it is an amoled thing.
BiGMERF said:
if you go to every forum of a phone that launches you will see the same complaint. its a plague
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Exactly even the iphones with it's tinting issues SGS2 with it's Blotches in the dark
and the glass isn't perfect around the bezel
people just look for this stuff
I don't understood if this lines means defective screen or if all phones will have this lines.
I have the same thing on my Galaxy Nexus. I guess it's just a thing with Super Amoled screens, rather than a defect.
gambiting said:
I have the same thing on my Galaxy Nexus. I guess it's just a thing with Super Amoled screens, rather than a defect.
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+1 Just as I said in my post above I have 4 amoled screen devices and they all it to some effect. Do not worry, your phone is fine.
could someone please post a picture so i can see what you guys are talking about? i'm curious to see what it looks like since i don't notice this on the samoled screen on my nexus s.
I had that issue with 2 evo screens. I would also get dead pixels or blotches.. Just have to get lucky with one I guess.
jms.flynn said:
+1 Just as I said in my post above I have 4 amoled screen devices and they all it to some effect. Do not worry, your phone is fine.
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why is fine if it seems to have a problem?
do you think that it is normal to have lines on the screen?
can you tell for sure that every phone have that lines?
I have the same thing on minimum brightness. Its best seen by using a white image as wallpaper and having nothing on your far left and far right home screens. I have many vertical lines. When I scroll the home screen all the way over to the left until I see the blue gradient appear, the gradient varies in shades exactly where the lines are.
I noticed it as soon as i first powered on the device, same as the OP, as it was set to minimum brightness but I dont generally notice it any other time. I dont recall having the same problem with my galaxy S2
Some people said it's only some few unlucky ones who got this this problem, but when I see that all the people who have it and got it on 2-3 different devices, I am wondering how big is the percentage of flickering screens on the overall One X army...
Please even if your device doesn't have the flickering issue, VOTE too!
TEST PROCEDURE:
-Minimum brightness and Maximum brightness settings
-preview the greyish snow and sun wallpaper in the ''HTC Wallpapers'' section
If the greys are ''dancing'' then you have flickering
I suppose you mean stroboscope effect on gray backgrounds, right?
I don't own an HTC One X but I think it's like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jZJfTAcq2g
50/50 till now
We've got plenty of threads discussing this already, my first one did. Got a grey that doesn't. My replacement white so far touch wood doesn't flicker but becomes noticeable after a few days so will monitor it before I decide what to do.
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Flickering is for me the strobe effect on grey colors. I think the posted videos describes more the glitches
HTC One X black version here, no problem at all. Screen is fine, battery is fine, I must be lucky I guess.
@jplayer
can you add a link to a video of flickering?
No problems for me
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added my vote
if you want to do a flex poll go ahead, but i dont think a lot of people visit the QA especially not happy ones
i personally think flex is in all One X it has to do with poly-carbonate relaxing on heat
Yey already 75% of good devices!
And as you said, we have naturally more deceived people in Q&A section
The ''advantage'' of flex is that it shows from first day so you can always ask for an exchange while the flickering can begin after a week
No problem here
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Explanations on the flickering
vegetaleb said:
@jplayer
can you add a link to a video of flickering?
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Unfortunately it looks impossible to make.
Indeed I tried with a few phones to take a video and the flickering is too fast to appear on the video. It's horrible to watch in real but not visible at all on the video.
The refresh rate is probably to high to get seen by the camcorder.
However here is my personal description of the flickering if that can help you :
It looks like the backlight of the screen isn't refreshed fast enough. As if it wasn't powered enough. This idea of bad powering can be right as for me the flickering intensity was changing along discharge. Anyway the backlight is acting weirdly with a strobing effect and it's hard to watch on some color. (mostly grey)
It's as if a few LEDs,not all of the backlight switched on/off 10-15times per second
You mean liek this EVO video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7qKHaKPyw
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkWZ5IsLx38
vegetaleb said:
You mean liek this EVO video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7qKHaKPyw
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkWZ5IsLx38
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None of those
It's as if only a few leds of backlight were blinking It nevers go completely dark on any region of the screen. The whole display remains on.
Could also be some kind of overpowering on a few leds that gives the feeling of getting flash strobes from your screen.
For the second video in no way the flickering affects the global form of what is displayed.
I voted and then watched the video. No, that's NOT what I mean. My phone flickers a little bit in settings when I scroll (whole screen gets darker/brighter very quickly). I do NOT have the problems mentioned in that video on the first page.
So it's like if the autobrightness was changing brightness in extreme ways?
I used to have this in old SE phones
that is quite the idea and it's nearly only visible on some colors (a lot on grey and for some not at all on other colors)
No problems here.
got the problem posted on the 1st page, however it only happens if i move the notification bar really slowly near the top.
also it only happens in Sense and not in Nova launcher.
aside from that no flicker
I've notice the screen will smear/lag behind while displaying "true" black (pixels are off) areas of the screen in fast motion (pictures, backgrounds, etc...). I'm sure this is a common problem with this display type as I've read similar things before (purple or black), but wanted to make sure all is well on my expensive new toy. It seems to happen more when the brightness is turned down, but it can also be noticed heavily on gradient backgrounds while scrolling left/right on the home screen. Turning up the brightness does resolve the issue for the most part (you can still see it, but it goes away much quicker), but why is it so apparent on this display versus others (Galaxy S5)? Maybe having many more pixels to flip on and off in the affected area is the cause due to the phone having a 2k display versus the 1080p display of the Galaxy S5. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
I have this issue as well. I have not seen anymore information on this issue anywhere. Have you heard or seen anymore about this?
Yep. I too have the exact same issue. I wonder what the consequences will be when using thw Gear VR with our Note 4... probably weird smushy images I'm guessing
I've had this issue as well. I was on a Plane at night watching Dark Knight Rises. I have auto brightness on so it dims in lower lighting but in that movie there's a lot of dark scenes and you can def see the lag with the pixels during fighting scenes and fast movement.
abystus said:
I've notice the screen will smear/lag behind while displaying "true" black (pixels are off) areas of the screen in fast motion (pictures, backgrounds, etc...). I'm sure this is a common problem with this display type as I've read similar things before (purple or black), but wanted to make sure all is well on my expensive new toy. It seems to happen more when the brightness is turned down, but it can also be noticed heavily on gradient backgrounds while scrolling left/right on the home screen. Turning up the brightness does resolve the issue for the most part (you can still see it, but it goes away much quicker), but why is it so apparent on this display versus others (Galaxy S5)? Maybe having many more pixels to flip on and off in the affected area is the cause due to the phone having a 2k display versus the 1080p display of the Galaxy S5. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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i am having this issue.
on the european note 4
i have no idea what to do and i dont want to visit service on the holiday season..... :crying:
Mine does this also. Only when the brightness is extremely low. I think it has something to do with the pixels being "lazy" when the brightness is low. It would be a drawback that comes naturally from the benefit we get with OLED.
EDIT: To sum it up, nothing is wrong, it's natural, just turn up your brightness when it is critical to not have the smearing.
dragunbayne said:
Mine does this also. Only when the brightness is extremely low. I think it has something to do with the pixels being "lazy" when the brightness is low. It would be a drawback that comes naturally from the benefit we get with OLED.
EDIT: To sum it up, nothing is wrong, it's natural, just turn up your brightness when it is critical to not have the smearing.
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thank you so much for the relief.
that is what i undrestood too (from reading about Galaxy S4s with this issue and also Lumias)
But i really freaked out when i first mentioned this on my phone! and on the idea of possible service visit
fotisg24 said:
thank you so much for the relief.
that is what i undrestood too (from reading about Galaxy S4s with this issue and also Lumias)
But i really freaked out when i first mentioned this on my phone! and on the idea of possible service visit
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No problem. Glad I could help out. This is my first OLED screen to be honest, but I am pretty familiar with the technology.
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No problem. Glad I could help out. This is my first OLED screen to be honest, but I am pretty familiar with the technology.
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Word. I only noticed it in low brightness levels so I'm not worried. At least blacks are actually black, instead of some purple-ish weird color they had back in the first Note.
hyukki said:
Word. I only noticed it in low brightness levels so I'm not worried. At least blacks are actually black, instead of some purple-ish weird color they had back in the first Note.
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The poor color reproduction is the exact reason this is my first OLED screen. They've finally got it right.
dragunbayne said:
Mine does this also. Only when the brightness is extremely low. I think it has something to do with the pixels being "lazy" when the brightness is low. It would be a drawback that comes naturally from the benefit we get with OLED.
EDIT: To sum it up, nothing is wrong, it's natural, just turn up your brightness when it is critical to not have the smearing.
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turning my brightness to max doesn't help mine still has it :|
kamranhaghighi said:
turning my brightness to max doesn't help mine still has it :|
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Is it just some minor smearing while scrolling? I'm pretty sure most if not all devices I have used have this a little when scrolling quickly.
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Is it just some minor smearing while scrolling? I'm pretty sure most if not all devices I have used have this a little when scrolling quickly.
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its an 1 inch smudge while i'm in the gallery, or 0.2inch smudge while viewing movies (POC: On stranger's tide for example)
haven't noticed it in any games other than minecraft(clouds go purple) ! (i don't play it, touch controls act weird on my note)
I had ordered OP3 on the day of launch and got it the next day. After using the phone for about 5 days, I noticed that the top part of the phone had a bad pink tint which was clearly noticeable on White and Grey backgrounds at any brightness. I sent the phone back for replacement and got a new one few days back. The phone looked almost perfect and have been using it for around a week now. Yesterday I bumped on another thread in a forum when I saw a peculiar screen uniformity issue in only one particular shade of Grey.
Steps to reproduce the issue
1) Open the below link in Chrome in a dark room.
http://www.nullabletype.co.uk/static/styles/blah2.html
2) Reduce the brightness to just above the minimum brightness (5-10%) with adaptive brightness turned off.
3) Go to Display settings --- Turn on Night mode --- Increase the slider below to the maximum.
4) Scroll to the 3rd image (the one after Black)
5) Mine has uneven brightness. Some part of the screen is darker than others.
6) Increase the brightness to say 25-30%. Everything looks uniform.
7) Scroll to other images (other shades of grey) and no screen uniformity issues at any brightness.
Now, I am not sure if I should send this back again. I don't use such brightness levels even in night and I don't see any screen uniformity issues in any other brightness levels or shades. I also searched in internet and found similar issues being reported in Nexus 6P, S6, S7, etc in Reddit, xda, etc. There are people who have RMA'd their devices 5-6 times without much luck. From what I have understood till now, AMOLED's are not really perfect in displaying Grey at extremely low brightness. Or may be, its due to the current software targeting the NTSC Gamut ? Anandtech recently said that sRGB update (coming in 3.1.4) has made considerable improvements in Greyscale accuracy.
Before I even think of sending the phone for 2nd replacement, I would like to know how's the screen uniformity with others here.
I did the screen test the moment I got the phone everything turned out good, I was really worried after reading the reviews on the net about the screen. But it seems like only handful of people are facing the problem.
Can you please let me know how you tested it ? I too had tested it on Day-1 since this is the second OP3, using "Screen Test" app and everything looked good. Only one particular shade of gray at low brightness creates this problem.
Not exactly 'real life' usage?? Haha
Looks fine on mine. Uniform grey across the whole screen.
Yeah I definitely have the same uneven brightness on the dark grey on the right side, it's even visible on the notification drop down. Like you, I'm wondering if it's something that can be fixed, or something I should bother RMAing, am I just gonna have the same thing again? It's strange, it looks like uneven backlight but there is no backlight.
So I finally got my f3, it has been perfect in every aspect, even the screen looks good, but the eye fatigue is simply too much.
I have tried to reduce DPI to minimum, reduce brightness, use reading + paper mode. After these changes it did get noticeably better, but it is still annoying.
I have Samsung galaxy s5 that also has an amoled display, but I don't get the same issue there. Also regular laptop and computer monitors are fine.
So anything to do on the software side to make it better? If not, then what other similar phone would you recommend that has a different screen.
Have you tried enabling DC dimming? For some people (not everyone) the PWM flickering causes some discomfort. I can't see any difference, but I'm glad the option is there.
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Have you tried enabling DC dimming? For some people (not everyone) the PWM flickering causes some discomfort. I can't see any difference, but I'm glad the option is there.
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F3 does not have DC dimming.
The option is there on custom roms, I assumed it was available on stock as well.
Do you know why you have eye fatique? What's the problem?
dreamytom said:
Do you know why you have eye fatique? What's the problem?
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The text and screen looks somehow muddy compared to LCD screen. Text is not as sharp, or at least eyes feel so, and it is harder to focus to text and objects.
Yes, the screen looks impressive, but can't really use it.
LCD screens are always sharper than their OLED counterparts, but hey there might be a slight problem with your eyes or maybe you've got sensitive eyes. therefore, I can only suggest that you get an LCD device or test an oled before buying. btw I have no problem with the panel even though I prefer LCD panels (no burn in issues in LCDs etc.).
there is still one small thing that I have noticed, there a very slight white line/shadow under the black text and it's more noticeable when the text is bigger like when Im in settings, all the titles or texts seem to have that white shadow under them. Has any of you noticed that? I might make a thread for it later but I just dont care. the screen is waaaay better than my last OLED which was ROG phone 2 with red tint and huge bandings and awful black crush issues...
Kianush said:
LCD screens are always sharper than their OLED counterparts, but hey there might be a slight problem with your eyes or maybe you've got sensitive eyes. therefore, I can only suggest that you get an LCD device or test an oled before buying. btw I have no problem with the panel even though I prefer LCD panels (no burn in issues in LCDs etc.).
there is still one small thing that I have noticed, there a very slight white line/shadow under the black text and it's more noticeable when the text is bigger like when Im in settings, all the titles or texts seem to have that white shadow under them. Has any of you noticed that? I might make a thread for it later but I just dont care. the screen is waaaay better than my last OLED which was ROG phone 2 with red tint and huge bandings and awful black crush issues...
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I personally use Syberia and have no problems with shadows under text.
Thankfully, I don't have eye strain.
Never had a problem on my end you might want to bust some glasses