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Holy bad battery life Batman!

I'm on Stock 2.2 US and Battery Life is HORRENDOUS. I have the Moto Charge app that displays actual battery in the status bar. I charged to 100%, wiped battery stats, turned it on and after 6 minutes of no use, I'm at 97%. What am I missing here?

Are there any apps constantly running in the background?
Do you have bluetooth/wi-fi/gps switched on all the time?
Are you using your phone somewhere that's unusually hot, cold or humid?

Step666 said:
Are there any apps constantly running in the background?
Do you have bluetooth/wi-fi/gps switched on all the time?
Are you using your phone somewhere that's unusually hot, cold or humid?
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No, no, no, no, no

How long have you had it?
Has the battery always been this bad?
Has it only started recently? Is there some sort of cause, something that happened that has brought about this poor performance?

I just got the phone from a friend but I do not believe it to be an issue directly related to this specific handset.

Having GPS "on" all the time will not drain your battery as it is only being made "available" when an app needs it (mine is always checked and has zero effect on the battery until actually used). Did you do a factory reset after installing 2.2? On the Moto forum many issues are resolved with a reset.

hah2110 said:
I'm on Stock 2.2 US and Battery Life is HORRENDOUS. I have the Moto Charge app that displays actual battery in the status bar. I charged to 100%, wiped battery stats, turned it on and after 6 minutes of no use, I'm at 97%. What am I missing here?
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Lithium-ion batteries have a big drop off at the start of the discharge profile.
They will then maintain a fairly steady state between about 80% - 40%.
A 3% change, therefore, from 100 to 97 is not equivalent to a 3% change from 80% to 77%.

I'm pretty certain it is specific to your handset - most Defys have very good battery life.
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At that rate, it should last ~5 days.

There are always something running in the background. Install a cpu monitoring application and see if the cpu is running wild.
In my case, 1% power lasts for 3~5 minutes usage (game, movie, surfing etc), or 2 hours standby (wifi off), or 1 hour standby (wifi on).

I checked Battery Use, there is nothing crazy. I've also checked Battery History and nothing is using the CPU or keeping it awake. I actually wiped the phone last night, didn't have a sim card in it and left it on over night and it lost 14% in 7 hours. It shouldn't have even lost 2% given that it wasn't connected to a cell tower. I have wiped it twice.

hah2110 said:
I checked Battery Use, there is nothing crazy. I've also checked Battery History and nothing is using the CPU or keeping it awake. I actually wiped the phone last night, didn't have a sim card in it and left it on over night and it lost 14% in 7 hours. It shouldn't have even lost 2% given that it wasn't connected to a cell tower. I have wiped it twice.
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I am of a differing opinion.. I think these android devices have terrible battery life.
That being said, invest in a few of the cheap Hong Kong 1800mAH batteries on ebay.
I had a good experience ordering from "farmerseller". Curiously, I ordered 1500mAH batteries but received 1800 mAH batteries..... it took a while to arrive, but they work great and the charger is nicely designed.

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I am of a differing opinion.. I think these android devices have terrible battery life.
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Compared to what?
What's your frame of reference?
I'm not aware of any other smartphone with specs similar-to or better-than the Defy's that gets anywhere near the battery performance my phone does.
Everyone I know with Galaxy Ss or Desires charges basically every day, one friend with an iPhone4 can get a couple of days out of it but most are only a day, friends with Blackberrys get a couple of days or so.
I regularly surpass 3 days of what I would call normal usage - web browsing, texting, a bit of gaming and the odd call here and there.

Are there any ROMs known to get better battery life? On both my N1 and NS, certain ROMs performed LIGHTYEARS better than other ROMs in the battery department. This is a well known fact that Android is inconsistent on battery life.

So I wiped, re-wiped, flash the beach update.zip, wiped, re-wiped and I'm not confident the wipe is working. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988036
Regardless, I also find it odd that my battery was at 85% and, after the flash/wipe, it charged to full in <10 minutes.

Give it a few days of usage and see the results afterward. Basically it needs some cycles to re-create the battery stats after wiping.
You can also install Powertutor to check what apps are "consuming" the battery.
From my experience: with light usage I made once 3 days but normally 1-2 days is all I get (3g, some talks, 30 min browsing, some ebook reading). It was the same with my past 2 Android phones and some 4 Win Mobile phones...
When you are in a really tight spot do the usual tricks: 2g only, disable APN, don't play too much with the phone. You will probably get 3-4 days in one charge

I updated to 2.2.1 also, and battery life went right down the tubes. I lived with it for two days, and then did a factory reset, and now I have better battery life than with 2.1. I really didn't want to factory reset because of all the fine tuning I did, and not to mention re-downloading all the apps and setting them back up, but I must say it was worth it. After 13 hours I'm at 30%, and that is with heavy use. I started at 100% and in 10 hours without using it much at all, it only dropped 10%, so 1% an hour I can live with. Once I started playing game it went fast, but that is to be expected.

Ahhh!!!!! You guys are killing me from laughter. Don't take this the wrong way....but read more items on these forums...they are a welath of information. First off.... battery stats are wiped. It will take a few days of charging/discharging for the phone to get an accurate idea of actual use. It needs a baseline created. Don't worry yet. It can take up to a week to get really good stats. As for the horrible life on 2.2....did you wipe battery stats before flashing? If not thats your problem. You have to wipe the stats when you go to 2.2. Different profiles and usage. It's mentioned in a number of the roms. With steady hard usage I'm averaging about 2 days between charging. On standby with no use the best I have gotten so far is 6 days. RTFM.... Hope this helps out.

Greatly improved battery life (CDMA)

Last night I restored my phone using the factory image. For some reason I anticipate an OTA soon so I wanted to be ready. Anyhow, before I suffered from the battery drain bug. I forgot to charge my phone last night, and didn't realize it until I got in my car and put it on the car charger and it said 89%. My first thought was that my battery drained over 10% in the hour I was getting ready and not using it! Then I went into battery settings and found out I never charged it.. then I found some pleasant... well, I'll just show you.
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As you can see, I lost less than 5% battery during the 6+ hours my phone was unplugged. I had the phone in the living room charging while watching a movie. Then I unplugged and used it for about 20 minutes in the bedroom which accounts for the first rapid drop in battery. But after I set it down, the phone went into a coma. And I can't see exactly, but it looks like it was only 2 or 3% which is great!
Not sure what changed, I still have the same apps installed, even Facebook. I did, however, NOT disable VZ backup assistant like I normally do. Maybe that is what causes the OS to go bonkers? Thoughts?
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I got about 20 hours out of mine yesterday (extended battery) with moderate usage (texting, ebay, facebook, web) This is after unlocking the bootloader and rooting. Unlocking the bootloader resets the phone to factory state. I've read a few other posts around the web where battery life is greatly improved after a factory reset. Android OS is still the main things devouring my battery, but I almost don't care with the performance I'm getting. I should also mention that I wiped battery stats from CWM and then calibrated the battery on first charge.
I'm no dev, so I don't know why a reset would help. Then again, maybe it was wiping battery stats and calibrating that helped me. Just my $.02

How did you calibrate the battery?

There's a free tool in the market that will calibrate for you. Have to be rooted though. Just search for calibrate.
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Surprised this isn't getting more acknowledgement. Any one else experience the same after a reset?
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Guess maybe I'm one of the lucky few...I've always had this type of battery life. The phone just sips power while the screen is off.
While it is on...well that's different. I keep the brightness high and get about 2-2.5 hours of screen time before it powers off.

The interesting thing here is that it seems that you have the Android OS constantly waking up the phone but yet it still barely uses battery.
Do you have location services turned on or off?

Turned on. I noticed that too but the overall awake time is low. Usually it would be over half of the entire time on battery, sometimes 100%.
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I used 50% in about 3 hours on my extended battery.
fml.

Great battery life, but you didnt really use your phone much.
Your "Screen on" is only about 15% of those 6 hours. Which ends up being about an hour.
Still, none the less, great battery life/power consumption.

rpnunez said:
Great battery life, but you didnt really use your phone much.
Your "Screen on" is only about 15% of those 6 hours. Which ends up being about an hour.
Still, none the less, great battery life/power consumption.
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I think you missed the point. I said this was done while I was sleeping. Many people are experiencing extreme battery drain even when they aren't using the phone, as was I. After restoring from the factory image, my issue seems to be gone.
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kangxi said:
I think you missed the point. I said this was done while I was sleeping. Many people are experiencing extreme battery drain even when they aren't using the phone, as was I. After restoring from the factory image, my issue seems to be gone.
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I unplugged my phone at 11:30 pm with 98%, woke up at 7:30 am today and it dropped to 76%. So a 20% drop in 8 hrs with the phone just sitting there with wi-fi on and no apps running. It'd be very interesting to see if a factory restore would help.
How's the battery life now that you're using it?

Im thinking of unlocking and rooting mine tonight. havent had a moment to read the walkthrough just yet.

i noticed this too last night/today. i went to sleep after installing bugless beast 4.0.3 cdma, left it off the charger, and today i saw the chart was pretty much a flat line. i don't recall the exact times, but i'll try to time it out. about 8 hours
i wonder if all the initial extreme battery drain reports are due to the 'wowanewphone' effect, where you are molesting your phone 24/7, as opposed to the typical day-to-day use you'll eventually fall back into

my galaxy nexus's screen is draining to much battery

hey.
i bought a new one like 3 days ago, rooted and installed android revolution HD custom ROM.
which says makes the battery better and has a custom kernel so im not overclocking my processor or anything.
i even fully charged to 100% and wiped all battery stats with CWM.
on my battery stats page it says my screen is using 50% of my battery and when i press it it says its been on for 2 hours ( out of the 14 hours my phone has been since i charged it )
thats too much battery drainage going on here.
any help ? or suggestions ?
oh i also have my wifi on and my screen brightness set to the lowest possible

This is normal just read over threads....
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beirouty said:
hey.
i bought a new one like 3 days ago, rooted and installed android revolution HD custom ROM.
which says makes the battery better and has a custom kernel so im not overclocking my processor or anything.
i even fully charged to 100% and wiped all battery stats with CWM.
on my battery stats page it says my screen is using 50% of my battery and when i press it it says its been on for 2 hours ( out of the 14 hours my phone has been since i charged it )
thats too much battery drainage going on here.
any help ? or suggestions ?
oh i also have my wifi on and my screen brightness set to the lowest possible
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You never mentioned what your final battery level was after 14 hours and 2 hours of screen? The "50% used" means 50% of the battery used to that point.
FWIW, I'm showing the following at the moment:
78% battery remaining
3h 51m on battery
Screen: 62%, Android OS: 17%
Screen on time: 1h 17m
So, based on this, I'd expect to get maybe 15-20 hours of charge and 4-5 hours of screen use out of a full battery, which is about right.
Daern

Battery life of a brand new device is always going to be a little poor.
Here's what I do: Charge it up all the way when you first get it. Then run it down until you get the low battery warning. Then charge it up. Then use it normally.
After a week or so, your battery life will normalize and should be much better than the first couple days.

alright
i will wait until its on 5% or so and charge it to full again.
my battery is on 48% now after 14hours of use
2 hours screen ( 51% screen usage )
android os 15%
notice that im running with the minimum screen brightness which is not what i want to be on most of the time =/
but i have wifi on AT ALL TIMES, it doesnt drain as much battery as the screen.
anyway i will wait for the battery to normalize like one of the users said and see what happens.
thanks a lot

it's normal for android phones or any phones for that matter.

beirouty said:
alright
i will wait until its on 5% or so and charge it to full again.
my battery is on 48% now after 14hours of use
2 hours screen ( 51% screen usage )
android os 15%
notice that im running with the minimum screen brightness which is not what i want to be on most of the time =/
but i have wifi on AT ALL TIMES, it doesnt drain as much battery as the screen.
anyway i will wait for the battery to normalize like one of the users said and see what happens.
thanks a lot
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48% remaining after 14 hours, with 2 hours screen on is pretty good actually, especially if you have had the phone under a week.
You will find the battery get better after half a dozen charges
Remember, its a 4.6inch screen with hd resolution, that's a big hi res screen by any stretch, and will use a bit of power
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The ARHD ROM is a good one, and you'll get excellent battery performace, especially if use with the James Bond kernel and undervolting settings. But to lower your screen battery drain, use a dark (or plain black) static wallpaper and auto brightness.

standard nexus , no rom kernel or GPS and Bluetooth, twitter Facebook and Gmail set to push. Playing games and listening to music , brightness 100%.
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It's a 4.65" 720p for science's sake... based on your stats, you would get 4 hours of screen on time from a total of 28h on. What did you expect ? 10 hours of screen on time ? Sheesh... Where did you come from ? iCrap ?

Dunno, for me GSam says that the turned off screen takes almost 4 times more than turned on. I know how it sounds, but having screen drain about 20% from all, though it worked for 20 minutes of 2 days. And the common battery life if not too bad - about 20% per day. I cannot find the reason for already three weeks, how this could be?..

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When you have drain like me then you can complain . I have yet to figure out why my battery drains so fast, it ranges from 10-15% an hr while its just sitting there.

ie: if it says that the screen is draining it 50%, it means that 50% of the power drain on the battery was caused by the screen, it didn't drain your battery by 50%. The screen is the biggest power hog on most smart phones so your stats seem pretty normal.

Well, the drain is not big indeed Just to ensure, that it could happen at all and find out, what it could be - kind of perfrctionism
Just installed PGM, assuming it will change the statistics. Let us see how much.
OK, after maybe a day with PGM I should say the drain is same - about 1.5% per hour (with radio turned on). Trying to be more tolerant to drain now

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I am stock rooted
This battery drain is so pathetic, please help me out on this one guys.
I charged to 100%, then played games for like 50 minutes, Plants Vs zombies for around 32 minutes and Kingdom rush for the remaining.
Charge became 84% , not sure if this one is to be expected.
But the main issue was the drain during screen off, i went to sleep when the charge was 84% and the device was screen off for almost 8 hours,
I woke up and checked, now its 66% ???? . really around 18% drain during a 8 hour screen off window
This is so lame, i checked the battery usage, nothing seems out of the ordinary, yes WIFI was On the whole time, is that the reason..
Does the notifications cause battery drain?, i had received some mails and t-mobile my account crap had sent some notification and LED was glowing all along.
i moved from note 1 only because of the stupid drain during screen off, its annoying , i know we can switch off WIFI, data, restart the device and use some app to reduce the drain, but i thought the battery will be good out of the box with Note 3, this feels the same like my note, no difference, something is messed up.
Any help is appreciated sorry for my bad English.

that idle drain seems very excessive. I lose like maybe 1% overnight. have you managed your accounts and only sync the necessary things? that could be a big drain.

Yes thats very excessive , thats why i am losing it, i did check for syncing, apparently nothing was running overnight.
Could be because i have only one point in the network signal? , not sure, i did check on the Cell standby it said "Time withou signal 0%"
i never had 1% drain overnight , would be nice if i can find out a way to make it work for me as well.

Call me strange, but if i am going to be sleeping, I plug it in. When I wake up even with just a nap the phone is fully charged.

i do too.. but i want to check the battery drain during sleep, often when traveling, i wont even use the phone but it would have drained , that's why i am checking how bad the drain is and the ways to fix it.

not sure you need these setting enable or not, but try uncheck all in Location Services under Setting.

Maybe you should start with basics and see what have you changed, since this drain begin?
For example I was trouble shooting WiFi calling and followed one of suggestions to shut down WiFi power save in service menu. It didn't work (updating router FW did the trick) and I forgot about it, but then I realized my phone was discharging 20% overnight (yeah, I charge when come home from work, by the time I go sleep phone is fully charged) and this was way too much. To make long story short, once I put WiFi save mode back on, I get 3% discharge overnight as it should be. The problem with such high discharge rate was that the phone barely lasted a day of light use and if I forgot to charge it night before it would be dead before morning. It also kills battery to have it fully charged daily, battery will lasts much longer if the charge is light (80% to 100% for example.)

Yup, i think it was this Wifi power save option in the service menu, i had switched this off and forgotten about it. thanks for reminding me .
i will check tonight as well.
Bad thing about this setting is, its very hard to pinpoint if you had forgotten about changing this setting, it wont show up in any of the battery usage app.

Go into wifi, hit menu and go into advanced settings. Uncheck wifi always scanning.
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Those 2 games kill battery like a mutha, even if you kill the screen. I always use androids built in task killer by holding home button for a few seconds and killing battery hogging apps like those. If i do decide to end up installing those again and playing them i can expect shorter battery life for sure. Ever since i stopped gaming on my phone less and just game on my 360,ps3 and now wii u(kids got 1 for xmas,mario 3d world is addicting lol) ive seen huge boost in battery life and light to normal battery consumption on common sense settings for our phones.
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Yeah idk I barely use my phone and still only get about 12 hours out of my phone. I think 4.3 just doesn't like our battery hopefully 4.4 is better.
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Is this battery usage normal?

In 3 hours, mostly standing by, it drops to 87%
I have no idea why "Android System" gets 23%
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well, if you're not using the phone, with apps or whatever.. then something else has to take the place of the 'most used' application..
I hope this isn't the "omg android system is using all my battery" again that I seen all over the gs2 forums when it came out
attached is a screenshot of my battery usage, I been streaming music all day at work.. mostly wifi, screen on a generous amount of time.. browsing xda, internet.. even played around with autodesk sketchbook..

Just got the phone today, it's been ridiculous. I've recharged my phone from 20% to 95% twice today. Granted, I've been using it non-stop
Now at 65%. Just terrible!
Android System 38%
Screen 20% (time on only 2h 5m)
Android OS 11%
Facebook 8%
Cell standby 5%
I had a lot of sync crap turned on that wasn't on my note 3 (like auto sync photos to google cloud), as well as some other settings that I just turned off like AT&T Address Book, and several google sync services I have no need for. Hoping that fixes it, I'll know tomorrow!
Android System.. that is where it would be syncing photos, right? I'm thinking that must've been it.

Get a wakelock detector
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I've noticed that is phone really really wants to have full gps on stand by at all times.
Can't wait to get that battery update. But when that happens maybe never

Jennygirl said:
Just got the phone today, it's been ridiculous. I've recharged my phone from 20% to 95% twice today. Granted, I've been using it non-stop
Now at 65%. Just terrible!
Android System 38%
Screen 20% (time on only 2h 5m)
Android OS 11%
Facebook 8%
Cell standby 5%
I had a lot of sync crap turned on that wasn't on my note 3 (like auto sync photos to google cloud), as well as some other settings that I just turned off like AT&T Address Book, and several google sync services I have no need for. Hoping that fixes it, I'll know tomorrow!
Android System.. that is where it would be syncing photos, right? I'm thinking that must've been it.
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A background process is eating your battery. I have gotten over a full days use with 3 hours or more of screen time and still at 35%, that or you got a bad battery. This phones battery life is incredible

Since I just got my phone this morning, I will have to report my batter usage later.
However, the phone charges SUPER FAST!

I'll tell you when it doesn't charge fast, I plugged it into my S3 charger last night at 11% and it still wasn't at 100% when I woke up about 9 hours later. Yesterday I got 3 1/2 hours of screen time after starting at 70% when I actually got the phone around 5 pm. The phone was under HEAVY use (downloading updates on LTE, customizing, etc.) I'll be interested to see how it does today under mostly normal conditions.

Thermalwolf said:
A background process is eating your battery. I have gotten over a full days use with 3 hours or more of screen time and still at 35%, that or you got a bad battery. This phones battery life is incredible
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Glad to hear you feel that way! Thank you for the glimmer of hope! I have a feeling you are very right, and that it could have also had a lot to do with the huge amount of downloading I was doing yesterday. Today should be a much more normal day of use. I'll check back in a bit.

My battery went from fully charged to 94% in a matter of minutes just using the Internet. I decreased the screen brightness and removed the sync from some apps. If I don't see an improvement before my 14 days is up this is going back.

I also realized power saving mode was not enabled. After enabling that and disabling all unnecessary sync services, I'm stoked.
Usage seems to be great now, too.
81% battery left so far today
1h30min screen on time
3h23min total
Screen 33%
Android Sys 21%
Android OS 13%
Stellar!

Jennygirl said:
I also realized power saving mode was not enabled. After enabling that and disabling all unnecessary sync services, I'm stoked.
Usage seems to be great now, too.
81% battery left so far today
1h30min screen on time
3h23min total
Screen 33%
Android Sys 21%
Android OS 13%
Stellar!
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You shouldn't have to use power save to get good battery performance. You definitely have a bad battery

Really? It seems pretty good to me now.
Is there a wake lock detector you would be able to recommend? Looks like it needs root?

I let my battery completely drain where it cut off at 1% and let the battery charge fully. Powered it back up and made sure nothing was syncing that I didn't need and now the battery seems to be performing better then before.

My battery usage today
Was on web and Facebook most of the time, downloaded some new apps, and uploaded a video to vimeo

Battery is quite short of impressive, and my N3 charges much much faster.

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Battery is quite short of impressive, and my N3 charges much much faster.
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Either you have fast charging turned off or something is wrong with your charger/battery. turned off my phone charged 0-100% in 79 mins.

Yeah, his phone is broken or misconfigured if it charges slower than a Note 3. I've owned both, and the note 4 charges WAY faster.
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I agree it is very noticeably faster. N3 was decent already with the provided charger, but N4 charge blazes.
Kinda want to get that Qualcomm fast charge 2.0 car charger so I can charge from 12v sources. The standard usb 5v 500mA regulated charge is pitiful

I have to constantly kill Index Service. It's loading CPU up to 100%. There's a bug since at least Note II. If you have large PDF files or many files of any kind, it will never finish indexing. Some reports link it to 64GB cards, but mine does it even without the card.