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The Samsung charger adapter which comes in the box is very slow in nature. It take more than 2 hours to charge my phone. I was wondering if I can use the following Nokia brand chargers which are fast chargers?
Nokia Charger Adapter CA-146C
Nokia Fast Micro-USB Charger AC-10
It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
Are you really sure about this? Can you link me to some articles which confirm this.
Even I was thinking about purchasing AC-10 charger from Nokia.
How fast is the nokia charger?
0-10% -> 100% in an hour or less?
Joey2o11 said:
It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
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I'm not sure about this. I have a friend with a Blackberry Playbook and he reckons his phone charges much faster if he uses the charger from that.
The "stock" S2 charger is 700mA - it doesn't take a genius to work out that for a 1650mAh battery this will take about 2.5 hours to fully charge the battery under ideal conditions (phone off) or anything from 3-6 hours with the phone on, depending all what's running or if you're using the phone while it's charging.
Which is all pretty ridiculous - ok we're comparing apples and oranges when we compare a S2 to the likesw of a Nokia, but I do miss the days when I could charge my phone in an hour and have it last two or three days. I thought my Blackberry was bad but at least I can usually squeeze a full day out of it...
The only wall wart I had lying around that was more than 700mA was a 5V 2A supply. I've tried with that which works, but the phone chokes with a "battery overtemp" warning after about 10 minutes - which tells me I AM pumping more into the battery than it can handle. This would suggest that there IS a happy medium where we can optimize the battery charge time - I'm bust looking for a 1A supply...
I have TWO AC-10Xs, and am using it with the Ninphetamene kernel (which comes with increased charge input mods to 800ma) fine. Charges to full in about 2.5-3 hours.
I've never gotten overcharge errors either.
Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
DobermanS said:
Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
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The phone (specifically, the kernel) limits charge coming in, and there MUST be hardware limiters on the batteries and the phone themselves (which, in some cheapo batteries DON'T WORK and results in them frying themselves and the phone in process) and the batteries are replaceable anyway.
eranyanay said:
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
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i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
ledavi said:
i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
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That's good to know that the current is regulated by the device.
Is there a software to see what is the current taken by the phone?
As long ad the temperture isn't higher than 45degrees is it ok?
By the way, Im pretty sure that usb outputs 0.5A and not 1A
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battery monitor widget
It seems logical to be able to use all chargers as smartphones all have micro usb .
(I 'm not sute that's mean something in english, sorry)
Great widget! thanks.
I really like the data it gives!
Sadly, while charging with my .7A original charger & meanwhile giving a hotspot to my laptop, it shows that only 76mA comes in!
hehe, gonna take forever to charge the battery this way.
i doubt this. i'm still worried about the compatible problem~~~
After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
Let's see if I can help make things a bit clearer. Feel free to correct where I may be off.
The Nokia thing, it's not a charger. It's a power supply.
The "charger" is built into your phone, hardware-wise.
How can I prove it?
Take the Samsung supplied cable, plug it into your computer. You'll see that your phone is charging too. No, the cable is not a charger. Do you think your computer is a special built charger for your phone? Hardly.
The charging circuit is within the phone, and thus charging the battery when there's available power.
Ok, so we have the charger (i.e. the mobile phone), we have the battery, we need the power. Where do we get power from? The wall adapters (or computers). So what are the wall adapters? Ratings of 1000mah means that the wall adapter can provide up to 1000ma per hour.
However, your charging circuit will determine how much current to actually draw. For example, drawing 800mah for 10 min may raise the temperature to 55 degrees, so after 10 min the charging circuit drops the charging current to 500mah.
Of course, if you're using el cheapo cables, some cables may not be able to support the current draw and you may find that even with 20000000mah power supplies your phone can only draw 100mah.
The SGS2 heats up pretty easily, and it doesn't quite draw beyond 700mah. The circuit built into the phone doesn't allow it to, if i'm not wrong. If your phone is overheating while charging, you better change your case as it's going to cause your phone to overheat sooner or later.
Using a 20000000mah power supply isn't an issue, because the charging circuit within the phone will be able to draw only a certain amount.
Me, I plug my SGS2 into a 2Ah charger every night to charge, and yes it's perfectly fine. I'm only upset that after buying an expensive 2A charger, I realised that the phone is not able to draw high currents (phone even heats up to 55degree Celsius when charging).
Charging the phone on a ice pack (which lowered the phone temperature to 16 degrees while charging) didn't increase the amount of current drawn by the phone, even on a 2A power supply.
My humble advise is, stick with the stock power supply, or at most get a 1A version. No need to splash for a 2A power supply. If you really need faster charging, get a battery charging dock.
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After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
I thought the whole idea of having a universal micro USB charging connection across most good brands was so you could use other chargers!
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
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Well I just like the widget, which shows me also the battery temperture
I hope it doesnt takes too much
I was thinking about putting a new receptacle with USB and one outlet somewhere on my kitchen counter. Problem is the two better companies have two very different amperage's. Cooper is .7a and Leviton is 2.1a, both have two USB ports and one outlet. The charger for our E4GT is 1a and I also have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 that would need the higher amp version, but many have said to NOT use a higher amp charger than the one our phones came with, which is 1.
So what do you think? Is it really that bad for our phones/battery to charge it using a higher amp source? I know our charger cube is small but I also need it in various locations at home or at the office so having an outlet like this in my kitchen would be awesome.
I hate how slow USB charges our phones, so I assume .7 would still be kinda slow and not charge my tablet either.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooper-Wiring-Devices-TR7740W-K-Combination/dp/B007NC5GI4
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-T5630...F8&qid=1350409796&sr=1-1&keywords=leviton+usb
My vote is for the 700. It will be better for your batteries over time.
Interesting thing that I have learned is that the Leviton version only pushes the higher amps on one of the USB ports. There is no where that states how much the one that gets less does though and I have read that if you plug in a device that does not need the extra amps that USB somehow puts out less amps and it charges slower.
I need to do more investigating though.
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My vote is for the 700. It will be better for your batteries over time.
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I agree to an extent.
I feel that it really depends on how long you keep your usb charged devices. Battery degradation may not be an issue if you upgrade often or are the type that never has anything older than the 2nd, sometimes 3rd, newest model device on the market. Also, a lot of the newer devices require higher amps to charge at a reasonable time. This transitions into charging habits. On the 0.7A charger, you may find yourself leaving devices on chargers over night potentially hours longer after fully charging. This is arguably also damaging to the battery.
Either way you go, you may find yourself with a bunch of 6' microUSB cables from devices taking forever to charge or battery degradation. :silly:
Your phone is only going to use as many amps as it can. Say a GS2 charges at 450ma USB and 650ma AC. The phone will recognize if its USB or ac and allow it to charge according to that. Its not going to charge faster on a 1a charger unless you root your phone and hack those parameters. Doing that is what will cause battery life problems, if not cause a complete failure of the battery and/or the device.. The higher you you set the charging amperage, the more likely you are to have problems.
And phones now (especially any model of GS2) have circuitry to prevent overcharging. Leaving your phone charging overnight is not going to cause any problems.
I don't know if USB wall outlets act like USB or a/c (think about a USB cable with a wall adapter) but plugging into the USB outlet and checking in the battery info in the settings menu or a battery app can tell you.
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What's next wireless charger outlets?
Get the higher-amperage Leviton.
Your device will only draw the amps it needs. The GS2 will draw < 1amp. But if you have a big tablet, they can pull the full 2.1 amps.
Since you're doing a 'permanent' wall installation, you're somewhat future-proofing yourself.
Good info, thanks all. I did not know that our phone will only pull the amps it needs, so that is good to know. I may get the higher amp version because I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 that needs higher amperage.
I've been looking into an external battery pack for my phone as a backup, partly because the phones I am considering buying in the very near future don't have replaceable batteries, and partly because a replaceable or even extended battery doesn't really guarantee I can get through a day.
My biggest fear and reason for wanting this battery is if I have little to no charge in the evening/night and can't manage to get a decent amount charged. Having a battery backup would make me feel more secure knowing I have something to keep my phone going even if I somehow end up away from a charger for an extended period of time, however irrational such a situation may be.
As such, I have been looking and found there are 3 different types of battery packs.
1) Built in Lithium ion (most common)
2) Replaceable lithium ion (ibattz mojo is the only example I can find)
3) AA based charger.
Now charger type 1 seems to be common, but overall the battery will lose charging capacity over time, not be replaceable, and will need to be tossed.
Type 2 and 3, the battery can be easily replaced, especially on the cheap. However type 2 can be smaller and slimmer, while type 3 has the benefit of using LSD NiMH batteries. For those who don't know. LSD is Low Self-Discharge in this case. A lithium ion battery dies every week or two just sitting there, LSD NiMH batteries can hold up to 75 or 85% of their charge even after a year of just sitting there.
Overall type 3 seems the most ideal. However there is another element. Some chargers have cables built in, while others have just a standard usb plug. At first I thought the USB plug was annoying and a built in cable made more sense. However after some thought, I realized the built in cables added too much bulk, and I found keychain cables, which make more sense. My favorite example of this, is the mojo treble keychain, which seems to do everything and then some.
So basically now I am looking for the best AA based charger that doesn't have any usb cable built in, just a simple full usb plug. The closest I can find is by energizer, but it has the plug built in on a super short cable that looks as if it would put undue stress on my phone if I used it.
However if anyone has any other suggestions, or reasons to recommend something else, I'd greatly appreciate any input. At this time I just want to find the most versatile option. I would also love to hear other reasons for why people went with options other than AA rechargeables for their battery packs.
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Extend battery:
(1) first of all to see the instruction for use,
(2) choosing a charging performance good charger. Charging time, keep the battery clean, dry. Helpful hints: use a mobile phone to send a text message, playing games is the power consumption
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Any reccommended battery pack for LG nitro???
I use Belkin External Battery pack, reliable,
my other mates bought cheaper made in china battery pack but after a month or so, they are already in the bin, the battery is damaged.
Charger considerations
Hi,
I need advise for the following:
Charger A (Li-polymer battery) output : 5V, 1A
Charger B (Li-polymer battery) output : 5V, 500mA
Device input: 5V, 750mAH (Li-ion / Li-polymer)
When using Charger A, some people comment that it will limit the current of 750mAH for the device and the device's battery should be fine since both the charger and device are at 5V. However, some people comment that this will shorten the battery life of the device since it will perform a 'quick charge' using 1A.
When using Charger B, some people comment that the device will draw more current than it can deliver and causes it to heat up and reduces the charger's life. However, some people comment that Charger B will extend the battery life of the device since it performs a 'slow charge'.
I also read that USB pins on the charger denotes if the charger is a PC or a dedicated charger. If it is a PC, the device will limit the drawing current. If it is a dedicated charger, the device will draw more current to charge itself.
I am confused as to who is right and which charger should i be using.
Can someone enlighten me ?
Thank you very much.
JefferyTeo said:
I use Belkin External Battery pack, reliable,
my other mates bought cheaper made in china battery pack but after a month or so, they are already in the bin, the battery is damaged.
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80%-90% external battery packs are made in China at present. Some of the brands make good batteries as well.
tsgan272 said:
80%-90% external battery packs are made in China at present. Some of the brands make good batteries as well.
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yes most external battery packs are made in china ,so i prefer to buy them from china supplier online ,
with better price and more convenient .belowed is the websites i often bought from ,which is better .
http://www.kingsbuying.com/consumer-electronics/power-banks.html
http://www.dx.com/s/power+bank
http://www.banggood.com/buy/Power-bank.html
Like the title says, can the typical smartphone (I'm actually asking for Galaxy Nexus specifically) safely charge from a 6V USB charger?
I'm asking because I want to make an Altoids portable USB charger for my GNex during travels. I've Googled a few results with mixed results. Some people built such a charger with a 4-AA battery setup, which means there will be 6V in the circuitry. However, some people have added a 5V regulator to the setup, while some have not. Those that have added it, sometimes reported insufficient voltage to charge the phone.
Basically, do I need the 5V regulator to safely charge my phone in this particular setup?
I know I can buy such a charger that is mass produced, but I want the satisfaction of a DIY product and appear to be the coolest hipster geek with my Altoid charger
Use Ni-MH rechargeable battery. Their voltage is 1.2V each, resulting in 4.8V in total.
If you use 4 Ni-MH battery with 5V regulator, it won't work. Voltage regulators are only good for stepping down, otherwise there will be improper operation.
I never understood portable chargers...with no disrespect to the OP, why wouldnt you just buy another battery or two? They are smaller and easier to travel around with than a portable charger without the voltage risk of running out of spec.
tincbtrar said:
I never understood portable chargers...with no disrespect to the OP, why wouldnt you just buy another battery or two? They are smaller and easier to travel around with than a portable charger without the voltage risk of running out of spec.
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The spare battery idea is a good one but I think one of the drawbacks to that idea is how to recharge the spares once they are dead. Energizer, Duracell and a host of other battery makers sell rechargeable power packs for not a lot of money.
I would hate to see you build one and have it short and catch fire or damage your phone not to mention the acid leaks from discharged batteries.
Edit. Just saw this in another thread. I bet a lot of us have rechargeable AA's lying around or since the are fairly inexpensive it may be worth picking some up.
http://www.batteryspace.com/battery...ndbeltcliponoffpowerswitch-rohscompliant.aspx
tincbtrar said:
I never understood portable chargers...with no disrespect to the OP, why wouldnt you just buy another battery or two? They are smaller and easier to travel around with than a portable charger without the voltage risk of running out of spec.
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No disrespect taken. Like the ol' fried chicken guy said, where would I suddenly charge my batteries once they're out of juice? I could throw a portable charger in the car, and then go buy some cheap AA's during traveling. If I'm out of country, my charger simply won't even work (I think), due to plug incompatibilities.
Mind you, I have a Verizon Gnex, so I could use all the juice I can get my hands on. Especially during vacations, I'll likely be using the GPS, camera, and various other travel aid apps (Yelp, for one) that would likely drain my batteries a lot faster than I could imagine.
Back on topic: The NiMh idea is a good suggestion, but then I'd only be limited to using rechargables. I've seen the link to that commercially made portable charger before, but my ultimate goal is to go the DIY route. Also, the description of that item has the exact problem I'm trying to tackle, so that one is no better than something I throw together from radioshack and some Altoid tins.
mengsuan said:
Use Ni-MH rechargeable battery. Their voltage is 1.2V each, resulting in 4.8V in total.
If you use 4 Ni-MH battery with 5V regulator, it won't work. Voltage regulators are only good for stepping down, otherwise there will be improper operation.
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Some AAs are 1.2v, while most are 1.5v off the shelf now. It is possible to use a 5v regulator to make sure the voltage does not go higher than 5v to protect your device. If the voltage drops below 5v it will simply stop charging as you need at least 5v +/- 3% or so.
What would be better is if you bought a dc-dc step up converter. This way you can use a single lithium battery (3.7v) or about 3 AAs (4.5v). The step up converter will take that 3-4v and bring it up to 5v or higher (adjustable).
Here's a dc-dc step up converter (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-LM2577...682?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cca94d2ca)
These are what most portable chargers use anyway. They step up the voltage to probably 6-7v? then bring it back down to 5v with a regulator. The reason why they step up the voltage to around 6-7v is to maintain amperage.
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ETC-CPK008GSTA
what about using one of these to charge the spare. Love mine.
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I recently got this because I had a lot of spare eneloops lying around. In 90 mins I get about 20%. For whatever reason when the phone stops charging, I can plug it into my friend's One X and his phone will continue charging where as the Nexus will charge for maybe another minute and then stop, not sure whats going on there but otherwise its a very good product.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/eneloop-stick-booster-supplies-emergency-power-to-your-portable/
rptw said:
I recently got this because I had a lot of spare eneloops lying around. In 90 mins I get about 20%. For whatever reason when the phone stops charging, I can plug it into my friend's One X and his phone will continue charging where as the Nexus will charge for maybe another minute and then stop, not sure whats going on there but otherwise its a very good product.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/eneloop-stick-booster-supplies-emergency-power-to-your-portable/
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I was about ready to jump all over that until $40 gave me a slap in the face
I really liked what I read, but I don't think I can justify $40 on it.
rice923 said:
I was about ready to jump all over that until $40 gave me a slap in the face
I really liked what I read, but I don't think I can justify $40 on it.
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34$ and free shipping on ebay, but i actually got it as a gift straight from japan
6V batteries can't make a voltage regulator give out 5V, let alone if you use 4,8V batteries (4x1,2V).
A Voltage Regulator needs to have its input 2,5V minimum above the output voltage (5V+2,5V=7,5V).
You'd be better off (and more stable using either 6 1,5v batteries (or 7 1,2v NIMH) and a voltage regulator.
If you are "too near" of the desired output voltage as soon as the batteries discharge a little the voltage will drop (specially if you use 500mAh batteries) and the phone will no longer charge. Better off being above voltage on the batteries. 6x1.5v=9v, after a lot of discharge,6x1.25v=7,5V will still make the regulator output 5v. (Also don't be "too far" above the voltage or most will be dissipated by the regulator).
You'd be better off using a DC-DC converter which will convert power in any form to the form you wish. Example= 1,5vx500mA=0,75W=5vx100mA (well, allways with some efficiency loss, but way less of voltage regulator).
I've seen different devices, at 5V, charging at different currents. My Samsung will require a minimum of 500mA to charge. My Nexus, with a 1000mA (1A) charger will still discharge (although at a much slower rate than when not connect). Even with the device poweroff you wouldn't be able to charge it with AA batteries.
Or EVEN Better. An external LiON rechargable 7800mAH battery that, fully charged, will charge my Nexus 7 two times
So I'm in my junior year of electrical engineering and seeing the incredible things done with smartphones is something I really would like to be a part of one day. I wanted to discuss, considering the limits of current technology, if it would be possible to create a safe Dash Charging power bank for this device? For those who don't know how dash charging works I'll post a few links and my understanding of how it works and if I'm wrong at any point feel free to correct me.
Dash Charging - The Technology
The way dash charging works, as I understand it, is that the USB-C cable wires are made wider in diameter to accommodate a larger amount of current being passed through to the battery. The charger plugged into the wall takes on the burden of the extra voltage pushing the current through the wire and keeping it away from the phone's internal battery (which is brilliant). That means that the charger takes on the extra heat which isn't a problem because passive components are often more tolerant of heat than batteries are.
Links:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-it-works-Dash-Charge-fast-charging-on-the-OnePlus-3_id82646
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/what-is-dash-charge-oneplus-3
The Issues
A dash power bank could be charged up exactly like the phone; with the dash charger it could fill extremely fast. However, using the battery pack to charge the phone means that the internal Li-Ion batteries of that charger will be taking on the extra heat from within the case which could:
a) shorten the power bank's life span
b) Possibly lead to unsafe power banks if it got too hot
I also see there being limitations with the power bank's ability to maintain a full speed charge similar to wall charging along with what types of batteries would be needed to provide the power output similar to the dash charger.
The Solutions
So in my limited knowledge I think that the biggest enemy here is heat generated in the power bank. I feel like the rest could be overcome with a fairly large bank of 18650 batteries. It is possible to have a passive cooling system built into the power bank for heat dissipation but that might make the battery bank difficult for users to hold on their Pokemon Go outings. Also, reducing Dash Charging specifications just a little, decreasing the speed at which it could charge the device, would alleviate some of the concern. So while you might not get 60% in 30 minutes from the wall, perhaps aiming for 45-50% charge in that amount of time would increase the power bank lifespan and total amount of charges.
What do you all think? I'll readily admit I don't understand completely how current battery bank internals work to limit over-current and over-voltage scenarios as I've never taken one apart. If anyone wants to educate me and say whether they think Dash Charging is possible I'd love to hear about it. This is the kind of stuff I imagine the OnePlus engineers are sitting around working on every week.
i think that would be too expensive to make for consumers, u figure if a dash charge block is almost $30.00 this thing would be well over $500.00 which would be too much for a regular consumer to purchase just to have a portable charger, maybe in about the 3rd or 4th generation of this technology we could see one in about 5 years, they would rather make a ton of 30.00 purchases and have you buy their charge block opposed to very little purchases of about 500.00 for power bank
It's actually already there in the market,
named "OPPO VOOC Powerbank"
attached is mine, working fine with OP3 Dash,
Price is around $45-50 - 6000mAH
Charging rate is 3,5A
and it DOES charge my device up to 60-70% in 30 Minutes
it heat up though, especially near the plug (USB C end)
this is why i use the metal based USB C adapter, so it release the heat faster
otonieru said:
It's actually already there in the market,
named "OPPO VOOC Powerbank"
attached is mine, working fine with OP3 Dash,
Price is around $45-50 - 6000mAH
Charging rate is 3,5A
and it DOES charge my device up to 60-70% in 30 Minutes
it heat up though, especially near the plug (USB C end)
this is why i use the metal based USB C adapter, so it release the heat faster
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I had no idea that even existed. I'm going to look into the specs of that device and see what it has under the hood. Thanks for letting me know about it!
AlkaliV2 said:
I had no idea that even existed. I'm going to look into the specs of that device and see what it has under the hood. Thanks for letting me know about it!
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Here,
the information page from the maker itself :
http://www.oppo.com/en/accessory-vooc-power-bank
and where to get it :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPPO-VOOC-Flash-Charge-Power-White/dp/B00SINEEXA
I'm going to build power bank using Dash Charge car charger. The power banks higher voltage (12V if using car charger) means less current for individual cell while charging. I have bought battery holder case 10 x 1,5V for AA batteries. http://r.ebay.com/vpShFJ (I already have plenty of Eneloop AA batteries for other accessories.) Each Eneloop has at least 1,5Ah (1500mAh) capacity while retaining voltage at or over 1,2V. http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/CommonAAcomparator.php I'm going to attach 12V socket to the battery holder case so I can use my car charger both in car as well while at camping.
Battery bank consisting of 10 x AA Eneloop has a total capacity of: 12V*1,5Ah=18Wh.
Dash chargers input is rated at 12V/2.5A so each individual Eneloop would have about 250mAh discharge rate.
My old Galaxy Note 3 had 3,8V 3200mAh battery and the capasity was ~12,2Wh. I don't know the nominal voltage of OP's battery but I would estimate it's about the same as Samsung's so the capacity should be lower than in Note 3. Maybe around: 3,8V*3000mAh=11,4Wh.
10x Eneloop batteries has a capacity to give energy for charging OP3 from 0% TO 100% at least. (18Wh/11,4Wh = ~1,6)
I think in India it's not available
Sent From My One Plus 3
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/new-product-survey-dash-charge-power-bank.457920/
Squabl said:
I'm going to build power bank using Dash Charge car charger. The power banks higher voltage (12V if using car charger) means less current for individual cell while charging. I have bought battery holder case 10 x 1,5V for AA batteries. http://r.ebay.com/vpShFJ (I already have plenty of Eneloop AA batteries for other accessories.) Each Eneloop has at least 1,5Ah (1500mAh) capacity while retaining voltage at or over 1,2V. http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/CommonAAcomparator.php I'm going to attach 12V socket to the battery holder case so I can use my car charger both in car as well while at camping.
Battery bank consisting of 10 x AA Eneloop has a total capacity of: 12V*1,5Ah=18Wh.
Dash chargers input is rated at 12V/2.5A so each individual Eneloop would have about 250mAh discharge rate.
My old Galaxy Note 3 had 3,8V 3200mAh battery and the capasity was ~12,2Wh. I don't know the nominal voltage of OP's battery but I would estimate it's about the same as Samsung's so the capacity should be lower than in Note 3. Maybe around: 3,8V*3000mAh=11,4Wh.
10x Eneloop batteries has a capacity to give energy for charging OP3 from 0% TO 100% at least. (18Wh/11,4Wh = ~1,6)
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We're going to need a hardware XDA for people like you. I never would have thought to string together Eneloops to make an external charger since most of your power banks contain 18650 with overcharge protection and stuff built in. The wall dash charger is spec'ed to run 5V at 4A and the car charger loses half an amp to land in at 3.5A max. Car charger voltage varies between 3.4~5V from what I can tell probably based on the car's cigarette lighter specs.
What kind of case are you using with the eneloops and what are you using for overcurrent/voltage protection?
otonieru said:
It's actually already there in the market,
named "OPPO VOOC Powerbank"
attached is mine, working fine with OP3 Dash,
Price is around $45-50 - 6000mAH
Charging rate is 3,5A
and it DOES charge my device up to 60-70% in 30 Minutes
it heat up though, especially near the plug (USB C end)
this is why i use the metal based USB C adapter, so it release the heat faster
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So... can you tell me if a normal VOOC charger block charge the OP3 as fast as the original dash charger in package?
I saw it is the same current rate, but the technology, is it interchangeable?
Just wait oneplus is planning to release a dash charge powerbank with 10000mAh so stay connected no need to buy oppo 6kmAh one
AlkaliV2 said:
The wall dash charger is spec'ed to run 5V at 4A and the car charger loses half an amp to land in at 3.5A max. Car charger voltage varies between 3.4~5V from what I can tell probably based on the car's cigarette lighter specs.
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You are right, the car charger uses lower current and is probably a bit slower. When I receive my car charger I will do some testing and will report back.
The voltage variation is needed on all chargers. When the battery is almost full the charging voltage drops.
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What kind of case are you using with the eneloops and what are you using for overcurrent/voltage protection?
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I have ordered a case like this: http://r.ebay.com/vpShFJ
The car charger has been designed to be used as it is. The charger itself does not require additional overcurrent protection but in case of a short circuit a 5A fuse is needed to protect the wiring and Eneloops. Overvoltage is not a problem as the maximum voltage with Eneloops is going to be under 15V.
DouglasDuZZ said:
So... can you tell me if a normal VOOC charger block charge the OP3 as fast as the original dash charger in package?
I saw it is the same current rate, but the technology, is it interchangeable?
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Yes it is. I've posted it in another thread as eell. Just check through my post history.
This is pure logical, since Oneplus is just a subsidiary company of OPPO, so they surely can share few technologies between each other, and VOOC/DASH is one of it,
Just make sure your usb c adapter quality is good when you decide to use it with VOOC charger.