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HTC to unveil new Mango phone on 1st September

Event announced for 1 September. Its on techradar but I'm not allowed to post links here as not made enough posts.
I'm dure for upgrade now too, I hope they have one with a decent screen, battery life and of course beats dr dre sounds integrated.

Here you go:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ws-phone-mango-handsets-on-1-september-995462

Eternity....

the beats by dre is probably a software thing rather than hardware which could be fixed by an update to the sound enhancer.

eric12341 said:
the beats by dre is probably a software thing rather than hardware which could be fixed by an update to the sound enhancer.
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From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre

Can't wait to see all the new Mangofied devices coming out this Fall. I'm most looking forward to what Nokia has up its sleeve since I think they don't have too long before they need to release their version of a swam song. HTC always makes good phones though, so if I feel the need to supplement my Dell Venue Pro I'll check out their offerings.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre
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It's both, but it currently only works with headphones so the speakers will still be crappy (I have an Envy 14 Beats). The software controls the amount of Bass it amplifies in like an Equaliser.
Also, I accidently clicked thanks instead of quote, so you get a free +1 to your thanks meter

brummiesteven said:
It's both, but it currently only works with headphones so the speakers will still be crappy (I have an Envy 14 Beats). The software controls the amount of Bass it amplifies in like an Equaliser.
Also, I accidently clicked thanks instead of quote, so you get a free +1 to your thanks meter
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Thanks for that additional information & the accidental "thank," lol.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Thanks for that additional information & the accidental "thank," lol.
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Just to add, to anyone reading this. It might not necessarily be limited to the headphone jack, that's just how it is on HP Envy's.
HTC could decide to add a Beats Speaker aswell... but Beats technology is VERY expensive, the only speaker they have at the moment is the Beat Box which is #300+ (That's pounds, yes my Envy is a US import and I have no pound sign ), Having said all this, HTC do have a controlling share now.
And yes, the difference is amazing but I do use Beats Solos... Not sure how it would sound with standard headphones.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre
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They have poor sound period.

Nokia un imo has the best speakers hands down. Matter a fact one of the phones they unveiled today is said to be the best sounding smrtphome to date I believe its the Nokia 800. Wish it was a wp7 device and not Symbian.
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makoute said:
They have poor sound period.
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this is probably a race motivated statement as u probably can't stand that an African American male invented what's possibly the greatest sound ever produced.

eric12341 said:
this is probably a race motivated statement as u probably can't stand that an African American male invented what's possibly the greatest sound ever produced.
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I believe he was talking about HTC Device, not Beats. If that's the case, he's correct. The HTC HD7 has terrible sound from its built in speakers. The TP2 I used to have had much better sound. Still not great, but at least I could hear it.
PS: Even if he's talking about Beats. What makes this a "race motivated statement?" He never used any racist/derogatory comment towards the creator. He just stated his opinion of "something" having poor sound quality. It's these kind of statement you post that get you in trouble with the mods of this forum. Please, just try to not make posts like this anymore. You'll be doing yourself a favor.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I believe he was talking about HTC Device, not Beats. If that's the case, he's correct. The HTC HD7 has terrible sound from its built in speakers. The TP2 I used to have had much better sound. Still not great, but at least I could hear it.
PS: Even if he's talking about Beats. What makes this a "race motivated statement?" He never used any racist/derogatory comment towards the creator. He just stated his opinion of "something" having poor sound quality. It's these kind of statement you post that get you in trouble with the mods of this forum. Please, just try to not make posts like this anymore. You'll be doing yourself a favor.
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he could've been more specific in his reply. these speakers are usually only intended for things such as phone calls, alarms, and podcasts/apps not for hardcore things like music and movies, that's how u blow them out. also the SRS enhancement does enhance the sound from the speakers to a degree.

eric12341 said:
he could've been more specific in his reply. these speakers are usually only intended for things such as phone calls, alarms, and podcasts/apps not for hardcore things like music and movies, that's how u blow them out. also the SRS enhancement does enhance the sound from the speakers to a degree.
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I agree, that is what the speakers are designed for, but why put them in a Phone that is meant to be a Media/Social Networking phone. They're fine for dumbphones like the Motorola RAZR, but WP7 is smartphone & is marketed as a media phone. It's essentially a Zune Phone with additional functionality. I may hate the iPhone, but must admit it has amazing sound even on the built in speaker(s). I mean, even some dumbphones like the Nokia Music Express has much better sound quality. We pay good money for these phones, whether they're Android/WP7/iPhone/what ever, they should give us some quality for that money.

Oh, & while we're at it. include a $5 FM antenna in the device so we aren't restricted to using wired headphones to listen to FM radio, granted I'd never use it as I don't listen to music on the radio, but still. Having FM Radio & the sound enhancement of HTC Sound Enhancer restricted to wire headsets/phones is stupid IMO. I mean come on, this is the day of wireless technology such a BT.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I agree, that is what the speakers are designed for, but why put them in a Phone that is meant to be a Media/Social Networking phone. They're fine for dumbphones like the Motorola RAZR, but WP7 is smartphone & is marketed as a media phone. It's essentially a Zune Phone with additional functionality. I may hate the iPhone, but must admit it has amazing sound even on the built in speaker(s). I mean, even some dumbphones like the Nokia Music Express has much better sound quality. We pay good money for these phones, whether they're Android/WP7/iPhone/what ever, they should give us some quality for that money.
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the speaker in my arrive sounds tons better than the iPhone. and the Nokia music express is actually a Symbian smartphone, so of course it's gotta have a great speaker since its built for music.

eric12341 said:
the speaker in my arrive sounds tons better than the iPhone. and the Nokia music express is actually a Symbian smartphone, so of course it's gotta have a great speaker since its built for music.
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I'll have to take your word for it, never heard the Arrive's sound quality. I have a HD7. I wouldn't call the music express a smartphone, yes it has Symbian, but an older version of it that's lacking many features of a true smartphone. The Nokia Nuron now, is another story. My room mates have had both & the Nuron is much better & has great sound quality as well.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Oh, & while we're at it. include a $5 FM antenna in the device so we aren't restricted to using wired headphones to listen to FM radio, granted I'd never use it as I don't listen to music on the radio, but still. Having FM Radio & the sound enhancement of HTC Sound Enhancer restricted to wire headsets/phones is stupid IMO. I mean come on, this is the day of wireless technology such a BT.
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the SRS enhancement within the sound enhancer works without headphones and there are many radio apps that allow listening to local radio in more superior digital audio quality rather than analog which is what's found on FM Radio.

eric12341 said:
the SRS enhancement within the sound enhancer works without headphones and there are many radio apps that allow listening to local radio in more superior digital audio quality rather than analog which is what's found on FM Radio.
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Some of Sound Enhancement works w/o, but the main feature with the most effect does not & never has, even in WinMo. Do those radio apps work without headphones & if so, are they using the FM Receiver or some kind of Data Connection thing? If they aren't working without headphones & not using the FM receiver, than how does this relate to my antenna comment? That'd be an Apples & Oranges thing.

Beats audio for any Gingerbread rom

Has anyone given this a shot on our devices?
I am going to try but just haven't had the chance yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

Go for it and feel the difference.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

Wow, from the screenshots that looks quite terrible. It looks like it colors the sound way too much and just adds noise and volume to the lower 60hz of the spectrum through artificial means. I guess that means I will stay away from this like the plague.
....why must all my hobbies be so expensive!?! (read: audio, Phone ROMing, computers, MTB )
*cries*

No sure.
From a galaxy better than yours.

Just flashed this and I gotta say WOW oh WOW. It freaking sounds awesome. Makes my Skull Candy 50/50 headphones sound even better! Thanks a million!
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To late...already pulled beast audio from sensation to my latest ROM

Does anyone have any idea what this does? The "What is Beats Audio" explains absolutely nothing.
Raistline said:
....why must all my hobbies be so expensive!?! (read: audio, Phone ROMing, computers, MTB )
*cries*
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I hear you -- I am looking to replace my Grados soon and possibly get a headphone amplifier.. :\

I just flashed this, and was skeptic, but must say, you can definitely tell the difference. Sound quality is amazing, and I'm using the stock Samsung earbuds that came with my phone.

OriginalMemnock said:
I just flashed this, and was skeptic, but must say, you can definitely tell the difference. Sound quality is amazing, and I'm using the stock Samsung earbuds that came with my phone.
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Exactly. I'll have to dig out my better headphones now.
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Well use power amp or player pro and the app volume+. Get some quality headphones and not have to flash anything?

Just flashed it, looking forward to hearing it

Let us now if it makes a noticable difference
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Master&Slave™ said:
To late...already pulled beast audio from sensation to my latest ROM
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So you already have this incorporated in Paradox II? No need to flash it since I already have it?

supercurio is saying this is beats audio port is bs on twitter.

well this beats audio went to ***t today. Apparently the wrong dev was getting credit. Here the actual dev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

funeralthirst said:
supercurio is saying this is beats audio port is bs on twitter.
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He also said that about the bravia engine. I am still trying to figure out why people still believe it works.
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Killbynature said:
He also said that about the bravia engine. I am still trying to figure out why people still believe it works.
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Bravia I knew was stupid. I would've thought the decent Samsung sound quality would deter people from using Beats since it's essentially an equalizer that sounds too artificial for me.
There was too much blind emphasis of Beats over on any HTC dual core devices and I hope most of the devs stay away from this.
Plus this:
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Audio is something special.
When you say there is an improvement, people tend to listen closer and perceive something different even if it doesn't exist.
That's called placebo.
All I'm asking is intellectual honesty in order to not abuse of this many times proven fact.
I also think placebo-mods are affecting negatively everyone's work and also the confidence XDA users have in developers.
The solution is simple: It improves audio? That can be measured then!
If you can't measure it, it means it does nothing.
Me, I measured, Galaxy S II. found it wasn't working. It's not an opinion or a critic. It's a fact.
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I'm pretty sure supercurio knows what the heck he's talking about, considering he's the mastermind behind voodoo sound project...

Terrible
Just flashed. Terrible Performance. Sounds Awful. TO ME. JUST MY OPINION.
I like music, and the extra bass with the boosted mid-range is awful, you can't hear some of the good parts of songs at all.
Re-flashing my ROM now, good thing I did an nandroid.
Denon AH-D5000.

dakluck said:
Just flashed. Terrible Performance. Sounds Awful. TO ME. JUST MY OPINION.
I like music, and the extra bass with the boosted mid-range is awful, you can't hear some of the good parts of songs at all.
Re-flashing my ROM now, good thing I did an nandroid.
Denon AH-D5000.
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Exactly. Those who have good cans or IEMs will notice that Beats sound awful.

chlehqls said:
Exactly. Those who have good cans or IEMs will notice that Beats sound awful.
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Dunno why people think beats is anything.........they make horrible headphones and even worse software. It's a gimmick for the most part. The hardware inside our phones for audio is made by Yamaha and they know whats up with sound. Get some better cans & poweramp to unlock the real audio power of our device.

Beats audio only supporting 2 Headphones?

Okay hey guys, I've just noticed that there are only 2 options of headphones you can choose when it comes to brats audio in music? You can choose between UrBeats and Beats Solo. Which kinda sucks as I have the Studio Pro and Studio Beats. You find this as a problem?
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it's not a problem for me because i use Sennheiser, but other probably covers all other beats headphones. there probably isn't much of a different on the software side when you change that. they just want to annoy you!
oh yeah, that's a hot pic.

Stuart.upton666 said:
Okay hey guys, I've just noticed that there are only 2 options of headphones you can choose when it comes to brats audio in music? You can choose between UrBeats and Beats Solo. Which kinda sucks as I have the Studio Pro and Studio Beats. You find this as a problem?
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HTC removed them in the 1.28 update (they were there in 1.26) ostensibly to resolve some audio skipping problems, or at least that's the reason speculated as I'm not sure they've confirmed that themselves. I'm sure they'll add them back in if they can get them to play nice with the rest of the software again.

Ahh okay, I'm in the process of trying to develop my own flavour of android for the one x. Might see if I can add them back again.
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Beats?

Hey i was wondering what's up with the Beats on the HTC one X, is it just marketing or do you get beats Earphones with the one X?
Also does one x have USB on-the-go and a feature like S beam (300mbps)

Beats is just an EQ setting, no headphones this time round.
As for S-Beam it does have WiFi direct which is used by S-Beam anyway just no quick NFC pairing.

s beam claims to transfer at 300mbps, does the wi fi direct on the one x that fast?

cyprusx said:
s beam claims to transfer at 300mbps, does the wi fi direct on the one x that fast?
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sbeam is no where near that a photo takes 3 seconds
sent from my CHARRED ONE X~ and click THANKS if I helped.

waste of time
Beats adds no value over a 3rd party eq etc. and is otherwise just a marketing have.
The headphones that come with the HTC one X belong in the Bin along with all the other stock headphone that come with any other device.

Think it depenfs on your carrier, I got beats with vodafone ireland.
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A tad bit bout Beats :crying: and the Int. HOX.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
To conclude. It's pure marketing. Nothing else.

Separate topic bout this issue is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735565

seightch said:
Beats adds no value over a 3rd party eq etc. and is otherwise just a marketing have.
The headphones that come with the HTC one X belong in the Bin along with all the other stock headphone that come with any other device.
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Whilst I have binned every set of ear/head phones that came with something, I actually don't mind these earphones that came with my HOX from vodafone Australia. Naturally they don't kill good individually bought units but if one doesn't have another set of ear/head phones, someone could save some dollars and use these stock earphones.
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waz675 said:
Whilst I have binned every set of ear/head phones that came with something, I actually don't mind these earphones that came with my HOX from vodafone Australia. Naturally they don't kill good individually bought units but if one doesn't have another set of ear/head phones, someone could save some dollars and use these stock earphones.
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I agree - my uk hox came with alright headphones (best stock headphones I've EVER had). I personally think beats sounds alright as well (even though it is just a software ting); , of course, you're an audiophile and can be bothered re-EQing for every single different song you listen to. I've produced and recorded a couple of albums so don't consider myself 'deaf' and but maybe I'm just not that fussed about studio quality sound when I'm on my way to work...

I think it can be taken with a pinch of salt, and everyone will have different hearing thresholds. There's far too many web sites that dive far too in depth into chipsets, and the like and basically rip a phone apart. Unfortunately the average consumer enthusiast like ourselves, will take this information on board and choose a phone based on these supposed facts.
At teh end of the day, if one sounds better to you than the other, go buy it. most stores have a live testing device or a few, so take your headphones and play some tunes on them. Only then can you decide what is best for your ears, not anyone elses.
Let's face it, we've come a long way from carrying a phone and separate mp3 player

Yea i doubt S beam can get to 300mbps but it would still be fast than standard WIFI Direct in other phones
Also GSMarena says that the HTC one X doesn't have Image stabilization Built in, is that true?

Vodafone austria here and mine did come with Beats by Dr. Dre

cyprusx said:
Hey i was wondering what's up with the Beats on the HTC one X, is it just marketing or do you get beats Earphones with the one X?
Also does one x have USB on-the-go and a feature like S beam (300mbps)
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A friend brought an unlocked One X in the UK just a few weeks after it was launched and he did get the Beats headphones... I think HTC has stopped bundling the special headphone now.

As said beats is just dynamic compression with slight boosts to treble and bass , you can get the same and better with any eq app.
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Ota update and beats improvement

Hello there,
I would just like to know if the new upgrade, which allegedly also improved beats audio makes the audio performance indeed "an authentic audio experience" or at least better, or its the same crappie crap we had before.
Thank you,
Bye
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Sat here with my beats headphones in and I can confirm I am getting an authentic audio experience
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Really hard to tell if there is an improvement when the source is mp3...

I have the very best digitally made FLAC quality music and Sennheiser HD555, Beats Audio before had some settings like "solo" or some EQ (and of course standard setting), now its just Beats ON or OFF - sound didn't change when its ON it is still awesome loud and clear, maybe a volume dropped a little...

Electronic Punk said:
Sat here with my beats headphones in and I can confirm I am getting an authentic audio experience
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LOL! idk if it was sarcastic or not, but either way that comment made me happy

did anyone knew there is a bug in android? It can not play some kind of music like this one : hulkshare.com/6v8q8htyft4r
I tried it on my Galaxy S2, Xperia & HOX and I was never able to listen to this song's 'voice' part which starts at 0:45
Try to listen this song first on your PC/laptop and then listen it on your android device and let me what you are able to conclude ;D

I had dome cuts while playing music over bluetooth with Spotify on 2.15. I don't have the problem anymore with 2.17.