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I'm new to CDMA/EVDO carriers, so I'd appreciate if you could answer some questions with regarding to the technology, Verizon and Droid Incredible itself.
A little bit of a background here. I'm using Nexus One on T-Mobile. Coverage in Chicago has been o.k., but Nexus One itself has reception problem which Google seems to have stopped working on it. I'm planning to get a Mifi from Verizon soon as I need internet connection when I start to travel more.
But I have other idea, getting Droid Incredible, and drop T-Mobile. Tether it with my laptop while I'm on the go.
1:Would it be possible to use data & voice at the same time?
2:I'm planning to get PdaNet or some other app to tether it with my laptop. Should I worry about extra charge from Verizon?
3:What's the difference between corporate (44.99) and smartphone (29.99) data plan? I just need to reach IMAPS,HTTP,HTTPS, and PPTP(GRE) servers. Does Verizon block these on $29.99 plan? (Verizon sales are clueless. They just said $44.99 for business "like big business", and $29.99 is for personal use.
4:Rooting this phone. I assume that it's just the matter of time before it's released. But will there be any problem with Verizon?
5:Given Verizon history about being anal about controlling their phones. Did they block features on previous android handsets in the past? (i.e. no file xfer via BT, pics can only be sent via MMS, etc. etc.)
TIA for your answers. Given Verizon reputation of nickel & dime customers, I'm a little hesitated to switch to Verizon. But for now, it seems to make economical sense to do so, so I just wanted to make sure I understand what I'm signing up for.

1. should be able to afaik
2. you shouldnt need another app for that, youll pay extra through verizon to do it, or root the phone and you can do it without any extra charges
3. id go with the consumer pricing unless you find it isnt working for you, no sense on paying extra if it isnt needed
4. shouldnt be any problem with verizon and a rooted phone, ppl have been rooting droids and eris' since theyve been out
5. i doubt it, verizon cant control what happens to a rooted phone
some of your options may not be available until your phone is rooted, but it would definitely be worth the wait on such a sweet phone

invisiblek said:
1. should be able to afaik
2. you shouldnt need another app for that, youll pay extra through verizon to do it, or root the phone and you can do it without any extra charges
3. id go with the consumer pricing unless you find it isnt working for you, no sense on paying extra if it isnt needed
4. shouldnt be any problem with verizon and a rooted phone, ppl have been rooting droids and eris' since theyve been out
5. i doubt it, verizon cant control what happens to a rooted phone
some of your options may not be available until your phone is rooted, but it would definitely be worth the wait on such a sweet phone
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Actually you can't use voice and data at the same time on VZW, but how often do you really need to?

1. No
2. PDANet will work fine - or once rooted you might not even need that. It's against Verizon's TOS to tether, but as long as you don't abuse it they won't know.
3. Get the cheaper plan - the more expensive plan is just a way for them to milk corp customers. You can use Exchange/etc with the cheaper plan.
4. You should be able to root it no problem once the devs get on it.
5. I don't think so - that's in Verizon's past for Smartphones. Heck I had a Motorola Q years ago on Verizon and I could do whatever I pleased...even tethering with PDANet...

about high prices
Thats why im staying with my nexous one
my wife is with verizon and we got her phone today and its really nice i cant tell at all a difference between the nexous one and the droid but
there basically the same phones
the nexous one is faster but then again it rooted
but i only pay $80 month for unlimited and she is paying $129 for unlimited
i dont care what i paid for my nexous im off contract and dont have to pay 129 dollars a month

I'll hijack the thread for a little question I have and I don't want to open another thread for it.
Are you able to use the widgets that were introduced with the stock 2.1? For example that News & Weather widget or are they fully replaced / not integrated by HTC in the Sense UI?
If not, are you able to add them with apps or alternative OS versions through rooting?

Thanks for the answers guys.
@Zabil : Quite often (when I travel). This is quite an important issue if I am getting this phone as "phone + data card" combo to save $$$
@sn95chico : I've had some problem with incoming call being diverted to voice mail due to background data (GSM, not WCDMA) recently. Just in case you experience this problem, check this thread out : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6301190
I read somewhere that for CDMA/1x/EVDO, your phone will still ring when data transfer is in progress, it will only be interrupted once you hit the answer button. This is first and only technological edge that CDMA has over GSM network, IMO. I've always been a fan of GSM/WCDMA network. --- (WCDMA network supports concurrent voice/data. Too bad that there's no 100% WCDMA network in US)
Since concurrent data + voice is impossible, it doesn't make much sense for me to switch to this phone yet. I might just get Verizon or Sprint mifi and be done with it.

[SOLVED] So...Can you USB tether? [solution # 25 no root required]

Seems to be mixed reviews that some can and some cannot. So what's the deal?

no....the end

Mine will let me but my web browser takes me to a page asking me to sign up for the Tethering service at $14.95/month.
Suppose the answer to the question is technically *yes*

I paid the upgrade for tethering, though I think it is a bit of bait and switch (their literature certainly wasn't clear, and my plan allowed it on my Vibrant with no complaint). But it is too important a function for me not to have. If I were a new customer, I would opt for it as well (unless some other carrier didn't charge extra). Frankly, I don't see why they can't just charge by the gigabyte (why should they care if you are streaming videos to your cell phone or to your PC?), but it seems this is the current convention.

jpnelson40 said:
I paid the upgrade for tethering, though I think it is a bit of bait and switch (their literature certainly wasn't clear, and my plan allowed it on my Vibrant with no complaint). But it is too important a function for me not to have. If I were a new customer, I would opt for it as well (unless some other carrier didn't charge extra). Frankly, I don't see why they can't just charge by the gigabyte (why should they care if you are streaming videos to your cell phone or to your PC?), but it seems this is the current convention.
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If the carriers can charge you for something they will. It's as if 1GB on PC > 1GB on Phone. I assume that once we get root on these phones we'll be able to tether for free the same way I was able to on my Vibrant.

grabiarz said:
If the carriers can charge you for something they will. It's as if 1GB on PC > 1GB on Phone. I assume that once we get root on these phones we'll be able to tether for free the same way I was able to on my Vibrant.
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That should be the case. It's hard to go from 2 years (roughly of course) of using all sorts of awesome roms on the HD2 to this locked up guy. Here's to the future though, cheers.

Yes, I can.

I can. No app needed. Built right in the stock rom

I see another difference from previous tethering on the Vibrant: from the T-Mobile support page:
"When your phone is serving as a Wi-Fi hotspot for otherdevices, you cannot access the Internet on the phone itself."
It seems that it isn't completely true: I can listen to Internet radio, use Firefox, at least some of the time. The Android Market seems to fail consistently, however (just hangs "loading...").
Does anyone understand why this change has been made, or what is it's purpose?

i still don't quite can figure out why some people are able to teather as is without root
yet, some other are unable to teather
it's something in the phone plan that you guys have?, or simply the SIM card? or maybe it's on the account side in Tmobile?

I put the new SIM in my nexus and tethered fine when I couldn't from this phone.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

Its in the wireless And Network settings under 'mobile hotspot'

Just tried to tether again this morning, it didn't work. It asks me to now add the plan.... Tethering was working.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

I suppose that in order to ask us to sign onto tethering, the data must be going through the phone already, so they must have some filter in place that detects that fact and blocks further data, pending your decision.

Theres definitely something with the sim card. Used the sim from my mt4g and tethering would start and the automatically turn off a few seconds later. Activated the new sim and now it stays on but directs me to the site to purchse the service. Bummer.
We need to root this thing quickly.
Wonder if that's one of the reasons why tmo wants us to use the sim included.
Sent from my SGH-T989

ronin4740 said:
...Tethering service at $14.95/month.
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Holy crap. I pay less than that for unlimited data. That's more than half of what a full data plan costs on T-Mobile. I take it not may people buy it. I'm guessing some of the custom ROMs will port over native tethering from the international SGS2. I wonder if T-Mobile flags tethering for people not on a legit tethering plan?

I tried to tether my Touchpad but got the T-Mobile page saying to add tethering. Gotta wait for root to get free tethering and utilize those fast data speeds!

i was doing some reserach on this and figured out how t-mobile does it. if you noticed when you turn on tethering a popup generates and after you enable it the 4g disappears for a bit, apparently in the software the phone disconnect your current apn, epc.tmobile.com and changes to another apn built into the phone software which checks for the 14.99 feature so yea sucks hopefully once root is established we can get around this. if you want to test this turn on wifi tether and then go to your apn and try to select the epc.tmobile apn bubble it will go on and then disconnect immediately

Has anyone tried any other APN's?
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Here in the USA, T-Mobile charges $9.95/m for tethering. I chatted with T-Mobile asking them how come I cannot tether (brought to their promo page) and I was told that T-Mobile will be enforcing the T&Cs regarding tethering... that is, it's not allowed unless you pay for it.
I told them that my Vibrant and G2x tethered just fine to what he responded that this will change in the near future. He said that with the introduction of the SGS2 they will start to clamp down on tethering without a tethering plan.
Mind you, this is one T-Mo CSR and I don't know if it will really be policy. However, it's pretty clear that this is the case at least for the SGS2.

[Q] Can the CDMA Xperia Play be used without any service? (wifi only)

Hi, new here. Sorry if this is a strange question.. I couldn't find any other threads related to this.
So I really just want to know if I can use this phone similar to an iPod Touch. Strictly over a wifi connection and no cellular service plan. I already have a phone paid through work, so I'm not interested in getting a phone plan. Just plan on using it for playing ROMs and just using it like an Android tablet over wifi.
Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to find out the hard way through an expensive ebay purchase.
Thanks!
- Jon

I'm pretty sure all android devices can be used apart from an actual plan, if you just use wifi.

Thanks!
Thanks for the fast response. I was just worried that I might run into complications without a service plan. Of course I'd be rooting it anyways.
Thanks again!

V35 + Cricket = no paid hotspot. WTF? help...

For years I have used a Leeco with a custom ROM as a hotspot for the Android head unit in my car. Last month, I got a warning about hotspot use and decided to go legit. The hotspot data got funky after the warning.
->I bought an LG V35 direct from Cricket, carrier unlocked
->I upgraded 5 family lines to the "Cricket More" plan that includes 15GB of hotspot data
But Cricket blocks all except a short list of phones from hotspot use even with a paid plan. I spent about an hour on the phone and they basically offered me nothing except to return the phone. No BYOD phones will work as a hotspot either except for iPhones.
What can I do? Has anyone else run into this? The custom ROM Leeco basically didn't work after the warning. Is anyone successfully using a V35 with a custom ROM as a hotspot?
Thanks for any help.
10/6/2019 Resolution for anyone else with a similar Problem:
1. it is difficult/impossible to bootloader unlock and root a LG V35. But that's not apparently the issue here.
2. Cricket only supports wifi hotspot on a short list of phones and all else including BYOD rooted/custom ROM devices are throttled to the point of uselessness even with a paid hotspot plan.
3. PDAnet works well but didn't work for my Android car headunit even after every known update.
4. I am using EasyConnect, a point-to-point screen mirroring app over USB, on the head unit and its OK. Not great but good enough to not trash Cricket and look for a new carrier.
Thanks!

Since no one else has responded, I'll make an attempt. You are going down a lot of paths without gathering any info in advance. The v35 cannot be bootloader unlocked without specialized tools. Even if you bootloader unlock, there is limited developer support. TWRP has not been ported to the v35 and there are no custom roms. Hopefully this situation will change, but the prospects are dimming as time goes by.
You still MIGHT be able to get hotspot working. I say might because I am not familiar with Cricket. Many carrier's phones check for a tethering subscription before allowing the hotspot to be turned on. The rom on the phone communicates with the carrier to make the check. That MAY be the issue you are facing since Cricket is an arm of AT&T. If so, you can get around it by cross-flashing to the open market / Google Fi rom which won't do a subscription check. I did that with my AT&T branded v35. It works great on StraightTalk. Browse around in the threads in the v35 forums and you will find information about how to cross-flash.
Now back to the MIGHT part. Some carriers, Verizon for example, can detect tethering. They throttle hotspot speeds for Unlimited plans. Presumably they could just block hotspot traffic. I have tried everything to get around throttling to no avail.

I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.

cmrntnnr said:
Since no one else has responded, I'll make an attempt. You are going down a lot of paths without gathering any info in advance. The v35 cannot be bootloader unlocked without specialized tools. Even if you bootloader unlock, there is limited developer support. TWRP has not been ported to the v35 and there are no custom roms. Hopefully this situation will change, but the prospects are dimming as time goes by.
You still MIGHT be able to get hotspot working. I say might because I am not familiar with Cricket. Many carrier's phones check for a tethering subscription before allowing the hotspot to be turned on. The rom on the phone communicates with the carrier to make the check. That MAY be the issue you are facing since Cricket is an arm of AT&T. If so, you can get around it by cross-flashing to the open market / Google Fi rom which won't do a subscription check. I did that with my AT&T branded v35. It works great on StraightTalk. Browse around in the threads in the v35 forums and you will find information about how to cross-flash.
Now back to the MIGHT part. Some carriers, Verizon for example, can detect tethering. They throttle hotspot speeds for Unlimited plans. Presumably they could just block hotspot traffic. I have tried everything to get around throttling to no avail.
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Thanks, there seems to be 2 things going on. 1st is the tether provisioning check. One can turn the provisioning check off (most custom ROMs have done this and it was what I did with my Leeco); or you can pay the carrier. For my v35 I paid the carrier and it still didn't work since there is some 2nd network check that isn't visible to me.. What runderekrun describes is exactly what happened to me.

runderekrun said:
I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.
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Thanks, that is helpful. For me, I went years with no trouble and then got a warning text followed by the throttling. It was very, very slow.
I just tried PDAnet+ and it worked! Hurray! seems to need the app to act as a passthrough but I can live with that. I have not tried it on the head unit yet but it's fundamentally just a big Android tablet and PDAnet just worked on my tablet that is actually a tablet. Thanks!

runderekrun said:
I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.
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PDAnet+ worked my S3 tablet and Windows laptop. But did *not* operate for my Android head unit. Any tips for figuring it out?

How to jump Hostpot cricket restriccion on this device???

Hi...
I move few weeks ago from my older Moto G5+ to the A71.
I haved rooted the Motorola, and I can share my internet specially with my son tablet whe we are outside home...
Now, with the Samsung I cant share my internet. I can turn on the Hostpot and the wifi network is created, but anyway is imposible surf on internet in my son tablet.
Im reading and found Cricket Wireless (USA) have a hostpot restriccion, and they want you pay additional to your plan, $10 to can share YOUR FU...ING internet, the wich one you pay monthly...
Somebody know how to jump that restriction???
Regards...

Inzaghij said:
Hi...
I move few weeks ago from my older Moto G5+ to the A71.
I haved rooted the Motorola, and I can share my internet specially with my son tablet whe we are outside home...
Now, with the Samsung I cant share my internet. I can turn on the Hostpot and the wifi network is created, but anyway is imposible surf on internet in my son tablet.
Im reading and found Cricket Wireless (USA) have a hostpot restriccion, and they want you pay additional to your plan, $10 to can share YOUR FU...ING internet, the wich one you pay monthly...
Somebody know how to jump that restriction???
Regards...
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I don't know why this is a surprise to you. I thought all us carriers have this restriction. I had the same 2 years ago in T-Mobile.
Downside - I was not able to find any software solution.
I also don't understand why such restriction even exists. My bloody Internet bandwidth and I can do whatever I want with it. This should be a subject for a lawsuit.
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I have Cricket and use the hotspot on my Pixel 4 XL every other day since I'm working from home now. I rooted it in order to be able to use it since Cricket will only allow you to pay for the hotspot $10 feature if it's a Cricket Branded phone. Or of you have their new $60 unlimited plan that has 15GBs of hotspot included. There are people that have used up to 100+GB of data on hotspot and never gotten in any trouble.
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I put my sim card back on my moto g5+ rooted and I can give internet... you think if i root rhe A71 I can do something to fix that???
Really I dont remember what i did with the motorola to activate the hostpot...

There are apps on the Play Store that may be able to help.
PdaNet+ will work alongside FoxFi to allow you to share internet with a tablet. Read carefully in the descriptions the instructions and use cases to determine if this is for you. After a short trial, you'll need to pay to continue to use, but it was cheaper than paying for a single month on Cricket for me.
If you have an unlimited plan, then Cricket has currently unlocked tethering for 2 billing cycles. The first just ended for me. Use it free while you can, then try the apps.