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GN "Official words" about yakju and yakjuxw differences

OK, mid you that the answers I got from Samsung Romania customer support where over the telephone not mail so......
According to the support ppl there are no differences between yakju and yakjuxw. They both get updates from Google not one from Google (yakju) and the other one from Samsung (yakjuxw). They also said that yakjuxw is for more specific countries or zones as well as for certain carriers, thus some phones with yakjuxw may have some personalized software, ring tones or wallpapers that other yakjuxw don't have. The yakju version is the, let's say universal version with no specific crap in it so the updates come first and quicker to this version then the yakjuxw.
I can confirm that the service support for GN phones of Vodafone Romania told me that I will not loose my warranty if I install yakju version on the phone, of course they official Google version found on their site. They also told me that if I unlock my phone via code from any other source except Vodafone that will void the warranty, so bummer there.
The fact of the matter is that there are ppl that flashed yakju to a yakjuxw Gn and still didn't get the 4.0.2 update while other got it.
The are ppl with yakju by stock that didn't get 4.0.2 yet.
Again this was over the phone with a customer support person, although I have sent Samsung an email about 11 days ago I have still yet to receive an answer from them.
For those of us with yakjuxw all that remains for us to do is wait and see how long will it take for 4.0.2 to get to us or flash to yakju and hope OTA updates will be on their marry way to our GN and that flashing yakju will actually mean getting the updates as quick as the ones with stock yakju.
One question for those who flashed yakju over yakjuxw:
After flashing yakju in Android System info does it still say Samsung in Brand? Or does it say Google? We all know that yakjuxw have Brand: Samsung while yakju have Brand: Google.
Cheers

I changed from yakjuxw to yakju and Android System Info says Brand: google. It was samsung before..
But still no update to 4.0.2, but I guess that Google stopped the updates for some reason. Many people with original yakju devices don't have the update yet, too..

My verizon galaxy nexus (mysid) shows google as the brand as well. can someone with a gsm galaxy nexus post a screenshot of android system info for comparison?

It's good to know that the brand also changes from samsung to google.
Here is the screenshot

Here's a shot of mine.
What does the host line mean?

In most phones, at Brand section apears the name of the carrier, like T-Mobile, Vodafone or any other company, In this case is Samsung.
Samung Kies is incompatible with GN so the question remains: who is responsable with deploying updates for these phones and how?

The support person from samsung told me that if I try to update GN with Kies, it won't work. I haven't tried it yet to see if it's true.
Like I sayd in my first post, according to samsung all GN are supported and updated via OTA by google and only by google as it's a full google phone. If this is true or not, remains to be seen with future updates.

As mentioned in other threads, Samsung made the region/carrier changes to original yakju build to support different regions/carriers, thus the various yakju** variants. Ideally they should send these changes back to Google to be incorporated into the main AOSP branch. So hopefully with a major future OTA release, Google will bring all GSM GN's into a single OTA profile.

Scovik said:
The fact of the matter is that there are ppl that flashed yakju to a yakjuxw Gn and still didn't get the 4.0.2 update while other got it.
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I've flashed yakju over yakjuxw and did get the 4.0.2 the 2nd day after it was officially released, so it goes to say that there are people who flashed yakju and got the update.
Scovik said:
They also said that yakjuxw is for more specific countries or zones as well as for certain carriers, thus some phones with yakjuxw may have some personalized software, ring tones or wallpapers that other yakjuxw don't have.
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I think the rep wasn't lying about what he said above, because 1 of the differences between yakju and yakjuxw that I've seen is that Samsung's build, yakjuxw had 30-40 more ringtones than the official Google build. Also maybe some more wallpapers. Other than that, I didn't see any changes.
My question on this problem is the following: is there some IMPORTANT part of the firmware that is different ? Something like the baseband or settings missing or etc. ? That kind of important. Ringtones are not that important, so it doesn't really matter that they are missing from Google build, I can live with that. But if a baseband is different and it affects the reception, now that is something very important. So, are there any important differences like that ?
Scovik said:
I can confirm that the service support for GN phones of Vodafone Romania told me that I will not loose my warranty if I install yakju version on the phone
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That's really good to know. So if I check in the service store with my phone with unlocked bootloader and yakju build, everything's fine ?
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They also told me that if I unlock my phone via code from any other source except Vodafone that will void the warranty,
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That was obvious. What isn't necessarily obvious is the fact that the phone came locked on Vodafone. Is it true, did you check ?

The phone is locked on Vodafone.
I really can't say what would happen if you would go to vodafone service with the bootloader unlocked and yakju instead of yakjuxw. Let's hope it wont come to that....

melterx12 said:
Here's a shot of mine.
What does the host line mean?
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But that's the CDMA version...not what these guys are talking about. Ours is different anyway (since we're using Toro).

I was just pointing out that even though the phone is on Verizon, the brand is still shown as Google.
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[Q] where can I get a gsm GNex

I'm looking to buy a GNex but I want one with a “yakju,” build because I want updates from Google

spaceman860 said:
I'm looking to buy a GNex but I want one with a “yakju,” build because I want updates from Google
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I've purchased two from amazon. One was a yakju, the other was not. It seems to be a crapshoot to me?

It doesn't really matter where you buy it from. You can convert any non-yakju build to yakju. It's a matter of luck when it comes to buying a GSM Galaxy Nexus, you're not guaranteed a "yakju." Very simple to switch.
You can view this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387777&highlight=yakju -- use search next time :/

j c m said:
I've purchased two from amazon. One was a yakju, the other was not. It seems to be a crapshoot to me?
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Same thing. Just flash it afterwards on the google android site.

I know you can flash it to yakju just wanted to avoid it if possible
Next phone: GNex GSM
Current phone: Nexus One CM7/Sidekick 4G stock
R.I.P: G1

spaceman860 said:
I know you can flash it to yakju just wanted to avoid it if possible
Next phone: GNex GSM
Current phone: Nexus One CM7/Sidekick 4G stock
R.I.P: G1
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Why avoid? Warranty purposes? Backups of other builds are available (look around) If you flash custom ROMs, yakju/yakjuxw won't even matter.
Like I said again, it's really based off luck. Some people have gotten yakju from Negri, Expansys. Some people have received other builds of yakju from them. It's completely random. It's not like you can go walk into a store in America (not many places I imagine sell this with a few exceptions) and check the build before leaving the store.

You can buy from www.clove.co.uk . thats were i picked up 2 G Nexus . both were yakju build and i picked them up on different dates.

Confirmed : Galaxy Nexus On The Way To ATT with 4G LTE

Though this may come as no surprise to some we have just received word from a very very good source that an unconfirmed number of AT&T SIM Cards (RS# 17-0700 and likely 4G LTE) for the Galaxy Nexus are going out for testing as we speak. Curiously the SIMS are standard and not the micro like Verizon Wireless. This means of course we can finally certify the release of Samsung and Google’s latest collaboration will be hitting AT&T in the very near term. I have to protect my source but this is coming from very close to the situation. We will keep you posted as more details come about. Are you on AT&T and have been waiting for the the official release of the G-Nex you can count on it soon enough. We broke this right here and we expect to be credited this time. Thanks.
Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!
Excelsior
Thanks Buddy… you know who you are.
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http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
wonder what rom can run on this version ...
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....

Interesting.
It's the same thing that happened to the Nexus S, ATT was late to the game getting that that phone too.

lsxrx7 said:
http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.

lsxrx7 said:
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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LOL.

Since when are sims phone specific?

NextNexus said:
True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.
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Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.

adrynalyne said:
Since when are sims phone specific?
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Yeah kinda strange.
When I switched to the LTE-enabled data plan with an LTE phone IMEI number, they had to give me a new LTE SIM for my GSM GN. So maybe the article meant LTE SIM going to the field with GN test units?

ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"

Oh perfect, hopefully some sucker on CL will trade me for it lol
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ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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I think you are right.
After receiving my new GN last Friday, I went to the local AT&T store to get a data plan. Contrary to AT&T ads there is no 4G in South Florida. My phone gets what is available: H+. I just had to move the Sim card from my Nexus One to the GN.
Since my Galaxy Nexus is not an AT&T I have no obligation to buy a data plan. I might drop mine after reading the speedtest

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Since our entire post has been repasted here i felt the need to clarify. The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post. There is more information I may be cleared to release as to why it was necessary for these SIMS to go out and an enterprising mind that thinks on it for a while can probably figure it out. The problem is I cannot yet tell folks where the SIMS were coming from and where they were going. I also know how many SIMS there were. If I get cleared to release that info I promise to update the information. Lets for the sake of argument put the SIM card aspect aside. The important part is the document in question confirms the existence of the handset in question. Number one rule of journalism is protect your source. If i gave out that information that would put him/her at considerable risk. I promise there will be more info soon.

Kidromulous said:
The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post.
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I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.

adrynalyne said:
I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.
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Several thousand people have read it and not everyone came away with the sims are galaxy nexus specific especially since we provide the sku number. They are regular ATT LTE sims and I will update the post to clarify this. Do with the rest of the information from my last reply what you will.

NextNexus said:
From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"
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It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T

Damn and I just paid $498 for a GSM to use on AT&T. However LTE in my area is delayed so LTE model would be useless to me. Plus AT&T branding and bloat ware Yuck!
I have two upgrades in May due. If anything Id rather get a One X for $199 hopefully to try out and still keep my Nexus. Never tried Sense so who knows. I really just like the look and screen quality of the One X. I could always sell it for $500 if it doesn't work out.

ATnTdude said:
It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T
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we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
Good day sir

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we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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I don't care either way but,
I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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is hardly convincing anyone. Blogs get things wrong all the time. Blogs that have exclusives that no others can validate tend to get them wrong more often.
So I hope you are right, but will not be shocked if you are not.

Posts 11, 12, 13, and 16 part of the answer is in post 10

So unless someone has pictures of the device, sales materials, etc.... how is this a "confirmed" rumor?

5 bucks says only the 16GB version will be available.
....I remember reading about a month ago that Samsung has stopped producing the 32 GB version and will focus on a 16 GB version to promote cloud storage. Hopefully its BS for you ATT guys and girls. Watch for it none the less.
Sent from CDMA GNexus w/Liquid & franco.kernel

[Q] Getting a GN today, Q's about the phone (i9250 v. SC-04D)

I am going to be purchasing an unlocked GSM GN from somebody on craigslist today, but I had some questions first. I know I read that there are 2 different types of these, the i9250 and the SC-04D. From what I have read, one should be leary of the SC-04D as it could have a defective IMEI? Is this right? And my next question, how do I tell which one it is once I'm looking at the phone? And is there anything else I should be looking out for? Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Towle said:
I am going to be purchasing an unlocked GSM GN from somebody on craigslist today, but I had some questions first. I know I read that there are 2 different types of these, the i9250 and the SC-04D. From what I have read, one should be leary of the SC-04D as it could have a defective IMEI? Is this right? And my next question, how do I tell which one it is once I'm looking at the phone? And is there anything else I should be looking out for? Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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I have an SC-04D from Newegg, and for me at least it is functionally identical to the I9250. No IMEI problems, mine matches the one printed on the box. I flashed it to yakju IMM76D using the factory images as soon as I got it, and I received IMM76I last weekend, OTA.
Physically - the SC-04D has a different battery door (but stock doors are available from any number of sources and fit as they should), a battery with Japanese writing and Japanese language stickers inside the battery compartment.
I've seen other posts saying that the battery in the SC-04D is not NFC, but I believe that it is.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on an SC-04D.
HTH

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I have an SC-04D from Newegg, and for me at least it is functionally identical to the I9250. No IMEI problems, mine matches the one printed on the box. I flashed it to yakju IMM76D using the factory images as soon as I got it, and I received IMM76I last weekend, OTA.
Physically - the SC-04D has a different battery door (but stock doors are available from any number of sources and fit as they should), a battery with Japanese writing and Japanese language stickers inside the battery compartment.
I've seen other posts saying that the battery in the SC-04D is not NFC, but I believe that it is.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on an SC-04D.
HTH
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Thanks for the response. I'm actually doing a straight up trade for my Tmobile SGS2. The guy told me he bought the GN about a month ago, and from what I have been reading, the only US specific model is the one Google just started selling this week, correct? So the only thing I need to look for is making sure the IMEI matches the one on the box?
And how do I know if it's yakju or not? Does yakju come with the i9250 and the SC-04D does not? I'm just a little confused as to what the difference between all of this stuff. Like, if the i9250 and SC-04D are both unlocked GSM, why are there 2 models? Sorry if this is stuff is answered elsewhere, I will be continuing to read through these forums during slow times at work today.

There really isn't a US-specific GSM Gnex yet, they're all unlocked international phones. Being pentaband, they work fine on AT&T and TMobile in the US.
The SC-04D is a carrier-branded (NTT) version of the international GSM model. When I got mine I didn't take the time to look over the build it came with, I just immediately flashed the IMM76D build.
I don't know what OS you'll find installed on the phone you're looking at. "yakju" indicates a "pure Google" version of ICS, straight from Google - no manufacturer or carrier modifications such as TouchWiz, Sense, bloatware. There are tons of threads here at XDA that can assist you in loading whatever version of the OS you choose. I've chosen "pure vanilla Google".
It seems to me that the folks complaining about IMEI corruption all got their phones from Negri electronics. You might ask your seller where he got his phone... just a thought.

UnusualSuspect said:
There really isn't a US-specific GSM Gnex yet, they're all unlocked international phones. Being pentaband, they work fine on AT&T and TMobile in the US.
The SC-04D is a carrier-branded (NTT) version of the international GSM model. When I got mine I didn't take the time to look over the build it came with, I just immediately flashed the IMM76D build.
I don't know what OS you'll find installed on the phone you're looking at. "yakju" indicates a "pure Google" version of ICS, straight from Google - no manufacturer or carrier modifications such as TouchWiz, Sense, bloatware. There are tons of threads here at XDA that can assist you in loading whatever version of the OS you choose. I've chosen "pure vanilla Google".
It seems to me that the folks complaining about IMEI corruption all got their phones from Negri electronics. You might ask your seller where he got his phone... just a thought.
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So the one Google is selling is the i9250 right?
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confused... t-mobile firmware stock OTA???

So I just purchased a new pixel 2 XL, an I'm getting ready to update my phone to the latest 8.1 OTA firmware from Google developer section (pie looks to have too many problems that are unacceptable to me), and I'm seeing T-Mobile firmware. I am on T-Mobile in the US, but I'm wondering if this is firmware for European market or something weird.
Should I use the T-Mobile firmware, or the non-specified OTA?

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So I just purchased a new pixel 2 XL, an I'm getting ready to update my phone to the latest 8.1 OTA firmware from Google developer section (pie looks to have too many problems that are unacceptable to me), and I'm seeing T-Mobile firmware. I am on T-Mobile in the US, but I'm wondering if this is firmware for European market or something weird.
Should I use the T-Mobile firmware, or the non-specified OTA?
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Go into settings/system/about phone. Look at the build number at the bottom. Choose the firmware that correspond with that number.
Eg: OPM2.

Chance Ill said:
Go into settings/system/about phone. Look at the build number at the bottom. Choose the firmware that correspond with that number.
Eg: OPM2.
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Thank you for answering, unfortunately the only update that corresponds with OPD1 for my device is the firmware I am currently on. There are also multiple firmwares with the same date for other similar numbers (there is an OPD1 for Rogers, as well as one for Telstra and another with no signifier and so on). I'm not seeing anything that really correlates to my device in particular. Not for updates anyways. The build numbers have changed.
In my mind it is only logical that they have Google images and Verizon images as they never released model that was carrier specific outside of those two.

Soured Lie said:
Thank you for answering, unfortunately the only update that corresponds with OPD1 for my device is the firmware I am currently on. There are also multiple firmwares with the same date for other similar numbers (there is an OPD1 for Rogers, as well as one for Telstra and another with no signifier and so on). I'm not seeing anything that really correlates to my device in particular. Not for updates anyways. The build numbers have changed.
In my mind it is only logical that they have Google images and Verizon images as they never released model that was carrier specific outside of those two.
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What model do you have? Verizon, Telstra, Rogers, etc

Chance Ill said:
What model do you have? Verizon, Telstra, Rogers, etc
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I have an unlocked Google edition 2xl running on t-mobile network.
When did they ever make a Rogers or T-Mobile version?

Soured Lie said:
I have an unlocked Google edition 2xl running on t-mobile network.
When did they ever make a Rogers or T-Mobile version?
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Some carriers like Verizon sell (not make) the Pixel thus the .img files correlates with that network for compatibility. I also use my device on T-Mobile US but us the OPM2 firmware because TMobile firmware (OPM4) caused modem issues

Chance Ill said:
Some carriers like Verizon sell (not make) the Pixel thus the .img files correlates with that network for compatibility. I also use my device on T-Mobile US but us the OPM2 firmware because TMobile firmware (OPM4) caused modem issues
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I really appreciate your help. I am on stock firmware and have really good connectivity, so I think I'll do what you have done and stick to similar firmware.
I have one last question. I'm about to sideloaded this, the instructions say to make sure there are no pending updates before proceeding. I have pending pie update which I have not downloaded, is this going to cause issues? I can't see why it would. I guess at worst it will reject my sideloaded at worst if it was expecting something else?

Soured Lie said:
I really appreciate your help. I am on stock firmware and have really good connectivity, so I think I'll do what you have done and stick to similar firmware.
I have one last question. I'm about to sideloaded this, the instructions say to make sure there are no pending updates before proceeding. I have pending pie update which I have not downloaded, is this going to cause issues? I can't see why it would. I guess at worst it will reject my sideloaded at worst if it was expecting something else?
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As long as you haven't downloaded the ota, you should be fine.

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As long as you haven't downloaded the ota, you should be fine.
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Already updated. Everything is smooth so far. Thank you for taking the time to help. I used to make ROMs when ICS was out, but everything has changed. Partition scheming and the whole 9. I'm a newbie all over again. I forgot how much I enjoyed Android. Very liberating after being on iOS for so long. Anyhow, have a good day.

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Already updated. Everything is smooth so far. Thank you for taking the time to help. I used to make ROMs when ICS was out, but everything has changed. Partition scheming and the whole 9. I'm a newbie all over again. I forgot how much I enjoyed Android. Very liberating after being on iOS for so long. Anyhow, have a good day.
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Lol. Yeah, much has changed since the good ole days. Welcome home! ?

Can some one confirm what OTA should I download for T-Mobile US on Pixel XL 2 for 9.0 ? Thank you

The one NOT for Telstra.

I'm hoping they release an update for TMobile. I'm having serious signal issues since moving to Pie... Once the signal drops a bit I immediately drop to 3G or even H+... Never had that issue with the TMobile release for Oreo.