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HTC Desire question

Hi people, is there a way to remove the stock app from HTC Corporation ???? i mean there are alot of useless programs i don't use and want them to remove.....but when i go to settings -> applications -> all applications tab i cant remove them.....why not

You can remove them using adb or if you have "s-off" you can just delete the .apk's
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AndroHero said:
You can remove them using adb or if you have "s-off" you can just delete the .apk's
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Using adb ??? do i need root to do so ? also i have s-on and i am affraid to brick my new phone.

You have to root to remove preinstalled apps.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Ok thanks for the info....but what is adb ?
Edit: Found it i think http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010

Another question (sorry). If i use a custom rom (need to root first and do s-off) and don't want to use it anymore....can i flash back to stock rom ? also if i do that i lose my root and s-off right ? so i need to re-do that.
Also i am from Europe (as you see in my profile) what version from this topic do i need ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
My device is NOT branded and simlock free. So i am guessing i need the WWE ?
PS: If i root with unrevoked, do i get backup tool ?

MichelN said:
Another question (sorry). If i use a custom rom (need to root first and do s-off) and don't want to use it anymore....can i flash back to stock rom ? also if i do that i lose my root and s-off right ? so i need to re-do that.
Also i am from Europe (as you see in my profile) what version from this topic do i need ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
My device is NOT branded and simlock free. So i am guessing i need the WWE ?
PS: If i root with unrevoked, do i get backup tool ?
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You don't need s-off to remove htc apps, just root. Only if you want to remove from a running system.
If you revert to stock you lose root, s-off and you get htc apps back.
You can use any gsm rom, only orange uk users need to be wary about the radio they flash i think (correct me if i'm wrong).
You cannot backup until after root, but then any recovery offers nandroid backup, and titanium backup offers apps and settings backup on any rooted rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Ik Desire said:
You don't need s-off to remove htc apps, just root. Only if you want to remove from a running system.
If you revert to stock you lose root, s-off and you get htc apps back.
You can use any gsm rom, only orange uk users need to be wary about the radio they flash i think (correct me if i'm wrong).
You cannot backup until after root, but then any recovery offers nandroid backup, and titanium backup offers apps and settings backup on any rooted rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Those backups nandroid/titanium .... i need to pay/download them manually or are they included after rooting with unrevoked3 ? i have readed somewhere unrevoked added a recovery too.
Also after root i don't get future updates from HTC right ??? People said if they use S-Off and get a update from HTC they might change the HBoot and lose S-Off again......i wonder how that is possible if they can't get updates after root.
Sorry for all those questions, this is my first Android/Linux device and i am new with this.

MichelN said:
Those backups nandroid/titanium .... i need to pay/download them manually or are they included after rooting with unrevoked3 ? i have readed somewhere unrevoked added a recovery too.
Also after root i don't get future updates from HTC right ??? People said if they use S-Off and get a update from HTC they might change the HBoot and lose S-Off again......i wonder how that is possible if they can't get updates after root.
Sorry for all those questions, this is my first Android/Linux device and i am new with this.
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No problems in asking questions this is the reason that XDA exsist
Nandroid backup: download Rom manager from market (free) and install clockworkmod recovery from within the app, reboot into recovery and do a FREE nandroid backup.
*edit you could also skip the Rom manager and just use the unrevoked recovery, it's up to you
Titanium: free version has restrictions, not sure what because I don't use it.
BTW you will basically update from XDA after using a custom Rom, the developers usually update their custom roms after an official update.
hope this helps

h3llb3nd4 said:
No problems in asking questions this is the reason that XDA exsist
Nandroid backup: download Rom manager from market (free) and install clockworkmod recovery from within the app, reboot into recovery and do a FREE nandroid backup.
*edit you could also skip the Rom manager and just use the unrevoked recovery, it's up to you
Titanium: free version has restrictions, not sure what because I don't use it.
BTW you will basically update from XDA after using a custom Rom, the developers usually update their custom roms after an official update.
hope this helps
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Thanks for the info

Htc desire problem
Hello,
I am new and I in a problem with my HTC DESIRE.
I have a HTC DESIRE by the English operator O2 with HBOOT 0.93 and RADIO 5.09.05.30_2 I tried to install version FORYO 2.2 by WIFI, the file OTA2.2 was be download and I launched the installation. After some restart DESIRE jammed on the first screen (blue screen with the logo O2) since the tél does not ignite any more.
What is the solution for problem?????? What is that I have to install a new ROM??? What ROM and How????
Thank you very much for your help.

Please start your own thread for others to respond. Thanks.
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[Q] Upgrade to 2.36.405.8 without losing apps & data

I want to flash only kernel, system and radio from the latest WWE 2.36.405.8, without losing data and applications installed: i know that's possibile but i don't know exactly how to do it.
What i got:
- Desire HD A9191
- Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
- Kernel 2.6.32.21-gf3f553d
- Build 1.32.405.6 CL278359
- Rooted with Visionary+R14
- SHIP S-OFF
- Downloaded PD98IMG_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.36.405.8_R_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_187331_signed.zip
What i need to do:
- Install rom manager then clockworkmod
- Flash only some parts of the WWE with cwm
- Flash the radio
Can someone please explain me how to do it? I'm new to the android world
Some questions:
- Do i need ENG S-OFF or SUPERCID?
- After the upgrade can I root it with Gingerbreak?
Thanks a lot!

t3o said:
I want to flash only kernel, system and radio from the latest WWE 2.36.405.8, without losing data and applications installed: i know that's possibile but i don't know exactly how to do it.
What i got:
- Desire HD A9191
- Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
- Kernel 2.6.32.21-gf3f553d
- Build 1.32.405.6 CL278359
- Rooted with Visionary+R14
- SHIP S-OFF
- Downloaded PD98IMG_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.36.405.8_R_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_187331_signed.zip
What i need to do:
- Install rom manager then clockworkmod
- Flash only some parts of the WWE with cwm
- Flash the radio
Can someone please explain me how to do it? I'm new to the android world
Some questions:
- Do i need ENG S-OFF or SUPERCID?
- After the upgrade can I root it with Gingerbreak?
Thanks a lot!
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welcome to xda-developers forum.
sorry for my poor English.
flashing kernel and radio wont lose your data.you can flash them in boot-loader with ADB.
but system you may lose it.
I don't know in this case but changing ROM would lose your data.
you can keep your programs with titanium back up.
your contacts get back up via Google account or export to memory.
other data I don't know.
for install CWM you need to be Eng-off.
and for second question again I don't know.
good luck

la121mo pretty much covered it but to expand...
t3o said:
I want to flash only kernel, system and radio from the latest WWE 2.36.405.8, without losing data and applications installed: i know that's possibile but i don't know exactly how to do it.
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This is a lot of effort just to avoid losing apps and data. all of which is backed up with a combination of Google servers (if you ticked that option) and taking advantage of two great apps mentioned above (others include MyBackup Pro and Sprite).
t3o said:
Some questions:
- Do i need ENG S-OFF or SUPERCID?
- After the upgrade can I root it with Gingerbreak?!
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If you want to flash radio's you will need them.
You're already rooted and as long as you don't flash a stock RUU it will remain rooted so not an issue.

Thanks a lot, now i know all that i need

la121mo said:
you can keep your programs with titanium back up.
your contacts get back up via Google account or export to memory.
other data I don't know.
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This helped me a lot. Titanium back up works so much better between two roms than appmonster, which really is only usefull whitin one rom. Thanks

[Q] Which route to take

I have just received my DHD this afternoon and was wondering if I should try and root the phone.
I am currently on:
Firmware - 2.2.1
Kernal - 2.6
Software - 1.84
Browser - webkit 3.1
I want to up date it to (Gingerbread) - 2.3 but I am not sure if I should 1st download the update and then root - or to root 1st and update later?
If anyone could help guide me with which root is best and possibly why that would be great.
If possible - I am looking for the easiest rooting process (newbie) and possibly with better battery life and hopefully sense 3.0.

1) Downgrade to 1.32
2) Root, Eng S-OFF, Radio S-OFF
3) Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
4) Flash Seraphic's Rooted Gingerbread
That way you can go back and forth between ROMs if you want, or just have Gingerbread.

^^^
Is it possible you could elaborate on the above instructions as I am very new to this and I am a little worried about bricking the phone.
Do you have any links to particular threads that I can follow or perhaps even video tutorials for them?
I have come across these 2 threads - are these the correct 1's: ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Thanks.

Sorry I meant to come back and link the steps.
I'm out at the moment, so unable to for it now.
For step one you need the downgrade thread in the development section, step two you need visionary+, one click ENG S-OFF tool and the one click radio S-OFF tool.

I have just come across these threads in the Development Section of Desire HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
is there a particular 1 I should follow for step 1?
1) Downgrade to 1.32

Personally I'd do it manually following the guide here

ghostofcain said:
Personally I'd do it manually following the guide here
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Do you possibly know of a video tutorial of the above link instead?
its just that I would feel more comfortable following video instructions because I'm worried that this £250+ device may become bricked
(off topic a little ..... can bricked DHD's be restored) ??

Read the guides few times and I'm sure you will understand.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

If... for now, I do the OTA update on my phone to 2.3 (Gingerbread) - will I still be able to downgrade and root at a later date?
... perhaps in about a months time.

No, don't apply the update. You don't know whether it will be 2.36, 2.37 or 2.42.
As it stands only 2.42 cannot be rooted & downgraded yet.

andyharney said:
1) Downgrade to 1.32
2) Root, Eng S-OFF, Radio S-OFF
3) Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
4) Flash Seraphic's Rooted Gingerbread
That way you can go back and forth between ROMs if you want, or just have Gingerbread.
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Ok, I have done 1,2 and 3 and am now downloading number 4 to desktop.
( seraphic_gb_rooted_0-1.zip ) -
but how do I put it (or flash it) on to my phone?
Is it best to do it through ROM manager?
Code:
[B]New phone details[/B]
Android Version
2.2
Baseband
12.28b.60.140eU
Kernel
2.6.32.21
Build Number
1.32.405.6
Software number
1.32.405.6
Browser
WebKit 3.1

I made a stock rooted HTC 2.50.405.2 ROM, the latest available.
Download that instead, copy to your SD card, and flash in ClockworkMod Recovery. Make sure you wipe everything first. i.e /system /data /cache.

Will flashing clear everything of my sim card and/or memory card?

No, but there is the option to wipe /sdcard, make sure you don't select that.

are these the options in the clockwork mod recovery you mean?
.... can I just ignore them and go straight to the install because when I go to select the downloaded rom on ROM manager it already gives me the options to :
> Backup existing ROM (although mine is stock at the moment)
> Wipe data and Cache
> Wipe Dalvik Cache (which is pre selected)

[Q] Rooting wildfire and still keeping android2.2 with sense ?

Hey ,
I wanted to know if there is a way i can root my wildfire
And still keep all my apps and not remove the stock froyo?
Thanks in advance
P.S - i dont want to install cyanogenmod cause il loose all my apps
Thank you

Yes you can. The process of getting root / S-OFF does not affect your current ROM and your apps. (UNLESS you have to downgrade your HBoot in order to get AlphaRev / Revolutionary to work - That will format your device)
BTW, You can backup apps using a backup app like Titanium Backup, Just so you know.

Thanks but how??

Just install it. It's available on the market, both Free and Premium versions. But, it needs root initially. So, before you switch ROMs, you will have to root and install this app.
One word of advice - When you do backup using Titanium backup, Press Menu > Batch, then select "Backup User Apps". Do NOT select "Backup User Apps + System Data". It will help prevent a lot of hassles.
Here's the official site, with all info you need to know:
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/

Thanks and yes can you tell how to root my phone,.
I dont want some other rom .. i love some sens apps (though i hate the ui)

If you are having Eclair (Android 2.1), you can use Unrevoked. Guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
If you are having Froyo (Android 2.2), you will have to use Revolutionary to gain S-OFF and a Custom Recovery, then flash Superuser Binary. You can refer the outline of the procedure here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318

I have 2.2 will it wipe my stock rom?

No. But if you have to downgrade your HBoot by following this thread: (Incase you have HBoot 1.01.0002 and Revolutionary fails in getting S-OFF)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132028
Then it will wipe your stock ROM.

I have hboot 1.00.0222 no work around? I see you use cm7 is it really better than
,sense ?

It's a personal preference. There are many here who like Sense, and hence, stick with it. I tried CM7, and I liked it better than Sense (With probably only the dialer app in Sense being better - But, I have grown used to it), hence, I am using CM7
If you have HBoot 1.01.0002, then, you can try using Revolutionary without downgrading. There are cases when it works. (Especially if your phone is not branded). BUT, if it fails, you will have to downgrade, and, no, there is no workaround.

Okay i wil give revolutionary a try

choosing the correct RUU for my device

Good morning Developers and community
As i'm completely new to HTC devices, flashing, rooting, and so on ... i've got a short question for you all
Actually i'm on an Austrian (A1) branded and simlocked HTC Desire HD with a Vodafone_fr branding (yes the provider uses that *** branding)
Android Version: 2.3.3
HTC Sense: 2.1
Baseband: 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M
Kernel: 2.6.35.10-gd2564fb
Build: 2.50.163.3 CL123205 release-keys
Software: 2.50.163.3
As i want to get rid of al these annoying pre-installed trial apps and as i want to recieve OTA updates in time and not when the provider is ready to send them (if they do ...) i decided to root the device by using the
new aahk tool to try to get 2.3.4 or higher for my DHD somehow
This aahk worked perfect for my device, no problems at all and i could get rid of all these apps, freeing some memory in my device
As this tool roots, Radio s-off, sets super cid, removes the simlock on this phone
i'm currently not able to get ota updates from anywhere (if i got that right from all the threads i read)
Now i was thinking about flashing the device with a htc rom and found this one on shipped-roms:
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.50.405.2_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_199042_signed.exe
The questions i have to you all are:
- is this the correct RUU for my device
- if i flash the device with an RUU, i'm i able to get OTA updates or do i have to set it to Radio S-ON manually again.
- if so - how ?
- is the simlock still removed with an RUU flash ?
i don't care if i have root access or not as i only want to have a clean installation without any provider c**p on my device
Thank you all in advance for your answers
Greetings from Austria

Chatty_VIE said:
Good morning Developers and community
As i'm completely new to HTC devices, flashing, rooting, and so on ... i've got a short question for you all
Actually i'm on an Austrian (A1) branded and simlocked HTC Desire HD with a Vodafone_fr branding (yes the provider uses that *** branding)
Android Version: 2.3.3
HTC Sense: 2.1
Baseband: 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M
Kernel: 2.6.35.10-gd2564fb
Build: 2.50.163.3 CL123205 release-keys
Software: 2.50.163.3
As i want to get rid of al these annoying pre-installed trial apps and as i want to recieve OTA updates in time and not when the provider is ready to send them (if they do ...) i decided to root the device by using the
new aahk tool to try to get 2.3.4 or higher for my DHD somehow
This aahk worked perfect for my device, no problems at all and i could get rid of all these apps, freeing some memory in my device
As this tool roots, Radio s-off, sets super cid, removes the simlock on this phone
i'm currently not able to get ota updates from anywhere (if i got that right from all the threads i read)
Now i was thinking about flashing the device with a htc rom and found this one on shipped-roms:
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.50.405.2_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_199042_signed.exe
The questions i have to you all are:
- is this the correct RUU for my device
- if i flash the device with an RUU, i'm i able to get OTA updates or do i have to set it to Radio S-ON manually again.
- if so - how ?
- is the simlock still removed with an RUU flash ?
i don't care if i have root access or not as i only want to have a clean installation without any provider c**p on my device
Thank you all in advance for your answers
Greetings from Austria
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- yes 2.50.405.2 is the latest official RUU
- You don't need to be S-ON to get OTA
- This RUU doesn't contain anything for Simlock (as it is operator specific)
Have you flashed a custom recovery like 4EXT or CMW? If not then flashing it will help you to flash between different custom ROMs..

fshami said:
- yes 2.50.405.2 is the latest official RUU
- You don't need to be S-ON to get OTA
- This RUU doesn't contain anything for Simlock (as it is operator specific)
Have you flashed a custom recovery like 4EXT or CMW? If not then flashing it will help you to flash between different custom ROMs..
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Wow thank you so much for your quick reply!
Hm good question. I just used the aahk tool to get rid of the sim lock and to get root access.
I did not install any rom so far.
The tool also set a SuperCID. Don't know if i matters or not.
According to the tool, the clockworkmod is installed and i can see it in the bootloader and i already did a backup of my rom to the SD card.
(go to recovery -> ClockworkMod v5.0.2.0)
But will the CWM still remain after the RUU flash !?
Thought, that it will be overwritten and the phone un-rooted
thx again !

Good news, if u already have clockwork recovery installed than no need to flash the ruu as it will overwrite recovery. You can either try my GB Sense 3.0 or i can give u an optimized / rooted 2.50.x build if u want
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

fshami said:
Good news, if u already have clockwork recovery installed than no need to flash the ruu as it will overwrite recovery. You can either try my GB Sense 3.0 or i can give u an optimized / rooted 2.50.x build if u want
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Trying to summarize:
- OTA does not work with both of them if i got it right
- if I flash with 2.50.x RUU build from HTC i can re-root this build again using the aahk tool (should work with 2.50) and i have an unbranded rootet DHD without any provider apps again.
- if I take your optimized build i don't need to re-root it (what's the "optimized" part in your build? )
- if I take GB Sense 3.0 then I have a "brand new" rooted? DHD and I can go back to the rom i currently have.
any recommendations?

If u flash 2.50 via ruu it'll remove custom recovery & rooting. U'll still get OTA with it.
If u flash a pre-rooted / optimized 2.50 build, ur custom recovery will remain & u'll get OTA..
If u flash GB Sense 3.0 since it is a leaked version so i don't think any chances of OTA, however u can flash any rom u want..
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium

fshami said:
If u flash 2.50 via ruu it'll remove custom recovery & rooting. U'll still get OTA with it.
If u flash a pre-rooted / optimized 2.50 build, ur custom recovery will remain & u'll get OTA..
If u flash GB Sense 3.0 since it is a leaked version so i don't think any chances of OTA, however u can flash any rom u want..
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium
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Going to send you a PM
THANKS !!

Tried to answer to your PM with "quick reply" but i can't find the sent messages anywhere, did you get them ?

Thanks for all your help - i think we can close this thread now