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How fast can the desire go ???

The hd2 can go up to 1.5ghz I know so why can't the desire, you may ask 'why does it need to get faster its fast anyway ' well that's because I want to see how far it can go. ages ago our kernels were going up to 1.3ghz and surprisingly it was stable for me. Any answers
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DHD has a different processor

What? He is not even mentioning Desire HD, only HD2, which has an identical chip.

My fault, swear it said DHD!

EddyOS said:
My fault, swear it said DHD!
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lol shouldve went to specsavers

Lol yeah , but seriously any idea
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No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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AndroHero said:
No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast

warlordxxx said:
This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast
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+1 and if the op really wants to try it, why not throw a donation at a dev, get him to compile you a kernel that can be oc'd that much
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998Mhz does me just fine on my Desire. I used to run 1.51Ghz on my DHD but all I got from it was an awesome Quadrant score and a piss poor battery life. For day to day use I really don't notice the difference from 998Mhz to 1190Mhz with a HAVS/BFS kernel on my Desire.

my amoled went up to 1300 and my wife slcd wont go over 1030(i menan it will but any stronger activity will crash it)

2.5ghz overclocked with a droid x?
how good was the battery life on that?

I think 998 MHZ is enough for my Desire. 1.5 GHZ is nothing to me.

[Q] SetCPU - Extra Info?

Hi there, thinking about getting SetCPU - I have some questions before I do because I hear it can be dangerous?
- I've heard it can brick your phone?
- What if you set it too high?
- Do you personally have to monitor it?
- What are the benefits?
- Use alot of battery?
- Is it really worth using?
- Is it optimized for different phones - example the One X?
Thanks guys!

JDBurnie said:
Hi there, thinking about getting SetCPU - I have some questions before I do because I hear it can be dangerous?
- I've heard it can brick your phone?
- What if you set it too high?
- Do you personally have to monitor it?
- What are the benefits?
- Use alot of battery?
- Is it really worth using?
- Is it optimized for different phones - example the One X?
Thanks guys!
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Hi, i have read that SetCPU cannot view all the cores i have read alot saying that System Tuner works fine you might want to try that.
I used to use SetCPU on my sensation and never hand any issues with it i did not monitor the app at all
Benefits allows overclocking if available in kernel
it can be overclocked and cause some issues such as overheating but if set correctly will be fine doesnt use much battery if any
and no i dont think you can brick your phone
if you set it too high i believe i had to reflash rom nothing major
BTW this is based on my own knowledge and usage
Hope this helps

Thanks man

JDBurnie said:
Thanks man
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How much battery life can you save using setCPU?

lamenramen said:
How much battery life can you save using setCPU?
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None in theory, if the CPU is slower it takes longer to go from
idle - process - idle
Faster speeds allow it to get it over and done with faster and get back to idle.
Of course it will at times stop the CPU going higher than it needs too which could save battery.
Under volting will save more batter then underclocking ever will.
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SetCPU can not see Tegra 3 yet
Use System Tuner and its free

hamdir said:
SetCPU can not see Tegra 3 yet
Use System Tuner and its free
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Thanks. I have system tuner, but what do I need to do in order to improve battery life?
I have set the governor to powersave. Is there anything else? How would I undervolt using this app?

lamenramen said:
Thanks. I have system tuner, but what do I need to do in order to improve battery life?
I have set the governor to powersave. Is there anything else? How would I undervolt using this app?
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undervolting requires your phones kernel to support it, currently on these forums there is only one that does but i haven't tested it, sticking firm to the "stock kernel is best" and will do untill the kernels have more time to mature.
you could limit your max speed to 1 GHz, if you are rooted you can use Core control to turn off cores and run your phone as a dual core.

treebill said:
undervolting requires your phones kernel to support it, currently on these forums there is only one that does but i haven't tested it, sticking firm to the "stock kernel is best" and will do untill the kernels have more time to mature.
you could limit your max speed to 1 GHz, if you are rooted you can use Core control to turn off cores and run your phone as a dual core.
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Not to be lazy, but would running the phone as dual core and limiting it to 1 ghz result in a perceptible battery savings? I'm trying to get a feel for how much I should expect custom ROMs to make my One X perform up to par. Thus far, I've installed two custom ROMs and felt like the improvements were all safely in the minor category.
I did install cyanogenmod 7 on a phone last year wow, that resulted in major benefits.

lamenramen said:
Not to be lazy, but would running the phone as dual core and limiting it to 1 ghz result in a perceptible battery savings? I'm trying to get a feel for how much I should expect custom ROMs to make my One X perform up to par. Thus far, I've installed two custom ROMs and felt like the improvements were all safely in the minor category.
I did install cyanogenmod 7 on a phone last year wow, that resulted in major benefits.
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Running on 2 cores stops the phone from using and 2 cores uses less power then 4, playing games and using all cores is over kill 2 cores will run the game without lag use less power and make less heat.
You'll maybe get 10% from doing that but I haven't tested.
Really the only time any of this saves battery is during demanding programs, tegrea has a super low power companion core, for all your power saving needs.
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I tried conservative governor while downloading sd files for Nova3 gave execllent results
I strongly advice not to undervolt tegra3
t3 is not like any other chip and UV or OC should not be attempted
OC because the chip is already at the max of its thermals
UV for the same reason n might end up with problems like flicker
changing governors and UC should be enough

Overheating

I've OC 1,8 GHz... I know that when playing games, phone's temperature raises, but when I'm playing NFS HP it almost burns me. What can I do with that? Does custom ROM may reduce the overheating?
And which ROM is the best?

reduce your overclock to 1.4ghz...really no need to go above 1.4ghz currently

yeah, but with 1,8 GHz is the best score in Antutu...

So in the end its just about benchmark score..

parkourz said:
yeah, but with 1,8 GHz is the best score in Antutu...
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Antutu means nothing......im not understanding this recent fad in basing your phone on Antutu etc etc maybe im just old school i dunno.....you asked about overheating and i gave you an answer......benchmark scores mean nothing at the end of the day....

Ok... and what about the best ROM?

search for it and install which u find its best for you
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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and a former symbian lover
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parkourz said:
Ok... and what about the best ROM?
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there is no "best" rom, rom's are down to personal preference. try them all see which you like.

Overhaeting at 1.8ghz while you are playin a game that stresses the RAM? Are you serious??? that is your phone's way of telling you that it cant take it, reduce the OC before it blows up...!

sumairmh said:
Overhaeting at 1.8ghz while you are playin a game that stresses the RAM? Are you serious??? that is your phone's way of telling you that it cant take it, reduce the OC before it blows up...!
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it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT

Ehm... I'm searching for ROM with good battery and RAM tweaks, smooth and fast

Lloir said:
it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
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well metaphorically... ;-p
sorry i should be straight forward and not scare people like that...

I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.

8bitShift said:
I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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For me no heating on 1.7 ghz but when I was on 1.9 ghz then it was heating....
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Lloir said:
it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
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That is true. The CPU can withstand ~100°C but not your hand. Standard phones has plastick fascia, so you are not sensing the heat that much as in our aluminium V. The phone can withstand that much, the question is how long...
As for me, I use the phone at stock 1Ghz, and for me it is more than enough.

8bitShift said:
I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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If you're talking about governors, I want to ask you, which I/O scheduler is the best? Cause first time I'm seeing something like "I/O Scheduler"

parkourz said:
If you're talking about governors, I want to ask you, which I/O scheduler is the best? Cause first time I'm seeing something like "I/O Scheduler"
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For me sio is best....my friends xperia neo v heating more than my cell.....
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2.1Ghz Overclock like on HTC One XL

Hey guy's I noticed the one xl just got kernel sources recently and the result? Insane oc! I was just wondering how hard it would be to match the 2.1 frequency on the galaxy s3 lte as they both run Qualcomm s4's.
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The 1.9Ghz we currently have isn't enough for you? !!

Ahaha, well the thing is I returned my one xl for a galaxy s3 for performance reasons. I love to get every bit of power I can from my device and I somewhat expected the s4 to hit the 2ghz barrier soon after it was fiddled with. Battery drain is not a deal breaker for me.
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2.1 ghz.... My device runs butter smooth on stock... Will 2.1 cause it to melt like microwaved butter??

From what I heard mildly hot these s4's can handle it though.
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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xnerdx said:
So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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Depends the phone is quite new give it like 2 or 4 weeks tops. Right now IMO development is kinda slow.

is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.

faulkton said:
is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.
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Way more simpler actually.An app shows you your available frequencies choose the one you want and done.Oh and its live OC to.

Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.

Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?

robstunner said:
Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!

Time_Zone said:
If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
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I custom built my computer, im sure i can overclock it to who knows what but it being so new i don't even think about it. Maybe in 2 years when it starts showing age.

Most people that overclock their PC will get a new one before they really need the speed anyway. It's just because its is fun. And plus if you know how to overclock, there is really no reason not to. It's not like it's a trade off, its just free performance.

gotcha, i wasnt meaning to be disrespectful, i just never understood it unless needed.

You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.

dmobbjr said:
Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
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I said simpler because in my experience I just select the frequency that I want and it causes no stability issues and under volt each step by 25mv.
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robstunner said:
Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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I just like showing off to my my friend who has an iphone and can't do that :highfive:
dmobbjr said:
You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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I wish I could but I have a laptop plus have no experience in OC a pc.

Your right about that. If your not pushing it to it's limits its easy. But then again the same could be said for PCs.

How much is safe for overclocking?

I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.

ImjuzCY said:
I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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Any overclocking can be unsafe as it can shorten the lifespan of your memory and CPU. But with that said I run mine at 1200 with no issues. Most people don't go higher than 1600 but anything 1400 or lower is not going to burn it up too quick IMO. Everyones hardware will react differently though.
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They usually say phone will get damaged, but I think its a myth. You can go up to 1600. After that it will get unstable.
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ImjuzCY said:
I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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I run IceColdSandwich and have found 1459MHz to be the best combo of performance and stability on my phone. Every phone handles OCing a little differently, some can reportedly take over 1600 without a flinch and others will lock regularly with even a slight OC. Just experiment with the "set at boot" option turned off until you find something that works reliably on your phone.

Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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asif9t9 said:
Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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I think OC can affect battery drain only if you use an application which utilizes a full cpu load. But, if you're using this app in normal mode, economy will not be great also. So, when you using your phone for calling or general usage you will not see any problems with battery discharge.
I'm using DHD with Blackout v3.0 and I set 1200Mhz for maximum cpu value. I have no problems, phone is stable. Some time ago I used Leedroid ROM and set also 1200Mhz, but phone was rebooted by itself very often. More than twice a day.
You should try to use OC, as someone said above, without "set on boot" option. I think there is no danger for hardware up to 1600Mhz.

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Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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Not under normal use. There's a school of thought that says even though the increased speed requires more power, it can also finish tasks and go back to sleep faster, so it ends up being a wash. I've overclocked all three smartphones I've owned to date and haven't experienced any significant difference in battery life.

ai6908 said:
They usually say phone will get damaged, but I think its a myth. You can go up to 1600. After that it will get unstable.
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They say that as a precautionary measure just as they say flashing a custom ROM can be dangerous. For people who don't know what they're doing. But precaution aside, just like you said you can go up to 1600 MHz safely on this phone. I know every phone behaves differently but on average no one has issues upto that frequency. But above that frequency the phone might be unstable. The CPU will be drawing much more power at high frequencies and will heat up more. The CPU heating up too much and too frequently reduces the life of the CPU. So it's not a myth.
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2ghz.... the phone is old now. Make it bleed.
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Don't try to Cross above 1600.