Hi Guys, first full charge is over, battery seems ok to me, as good as my Desire at least...
for the initial charge I pulled the phone out of the box and let it charge to green, then turned it on for an hour while charging and had a play...switched off and left till the morning so...10 hours or so.
Today it was used for 11 hours from 100% to 2% with 67% screen time (3h20m)...
Just put it back on charge and I'm not sure what to do this time round to maximize my batteries potential!!! lol
Shall I charge until green or another all nighter? I've read that these early charges are crucial in the life of a new One X
Thanks
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Either should be fine. Over night or charge till green.
Cheers! Didn't fancy waiting till tomorrow for another One X session
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While I don't get why this is funny, I'd say let it die and charge it to the max without switching it back on twice, it truly gave me a bump in battery life.
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I did something simlair, when it got to 10% i turned the phone off then charged and have now got a day 1/2 with modrate usage.
i thought it was no longer necessary to charge phones before first use?
Perhaps, was just being extra cautious as its non-removable...
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I've never been convinced by this charge/discharge cycle. Lithium batteries don't like to be fully depleted, top up charges are their preferred usage pattern.
The full cycle days left with NiCad! The batteries have changed my friends, it's about time the advice did, too.
Most of the advice I hear from experts is that heat, overcharging and deep cycling is what kills Lithium based rechargeables, so if you know you will have access to a charger, keep the phone between 30-80% charged with regular top ups and don't leave it on your dashboard in the sun.
I would warmly suggest you deplete your battery fully for the first 10 times doing whatever and charge the phone while it's off. It does wonders to my X. Started off with under 3 hrs of screen time to over 4 hrs in 10 charges.
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Just because your battery life got better, and you did deep discharges, doesn't mean one caused the other. There is a difference between a causal effect and correlation. But whatever. I'll believe it when I find a reputable study.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
So many people here have their own opinions on batteries.
CHARGE IT HOW YOU SEE FIT. CHARGE WHEN YOU NEED TO.
There we go. All of this fuss over batteries when most of the time any effect seen is placebo.
I got my phone on the 5th and I'm currently on charge number....74...I think?
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Hi All, I have question. Which one better to charge
1. Wait until Battery level reach 15% or less
2. Charge it every we want it, example battery status in 40% because we want to travelling, we charge it until 100%
3. Charge it every morning
4. Other Tips?
Best Regards
Jauhari
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You should just plug it in when ever you have the chance m8.
Li-ion and lipo batteries does not suffer from the memory effect as nicd and nimh batteries did.
The li-ion and lipo batteries will most likely die if you do a full discharge, but no worries, when your phone tells you that it's out of power, it's not fully discharged.
Your phone has at built in protection, that shuts down the phone before it uses all the power on the battery.
(Have been working with batterie for many years, as I have been flying eletric model airplanes, with all types of batteries)
There are a huge number of threads on this!
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highboy said:
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You should just plug it in when ever you have the chance m8.
Li-ion and lipo batteries does not suffer from the memory effect as nicd and nimh batteries did.
The li-ion and lipo batteries will most likely die if you do a full discharge, but no worries, when your phone tells you that it's out of power, it's not fully discharged.
Your phone has at built in protection, that shuts down the phone before it uses all the power on the battery.
(Have been working with batterie for many years, as I have been flying eletric model airplanes, with all types of batteries)
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Thanks you for this tips... now I have more knowledge about battery.
A little bit question again.
What should I do, when I charge my HTC Desire? Keep this gadget turn on or turn off this gadget and turn on again when the charging has completed?
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I am sorry for doing the some question. I was tried to search on this forum but I can't find it... this forum search didn't good jobs
jauhari said:
Thanks you for this tips... now I have more knowledge about battery.
A little bit question again.
What should I do, when I charge my HTC Desire? Keep this gadget turn on or turn off this gadget and turn on again when the charging has completed?
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Just keep it turned on m8.
leaving it on has a disadvantage
as soon as battery is full, it discharges. at a certain point it would charge again.
you lose unneccessary charging cycles for your battery. so charge over night with turned off handset.
Not true really. The life of Li-ion batteries is mainly rated in full charge/discharge cycles between what the manufacturer recommends as the limits. Fox max life this is often a maximum of 80%SOC and min of 20%. They ship them about 40% SOC as this is where they have longest shelf life. The phone manages these limits for you so you don't need to worry. The best thing to do is to keep it topped up but let it run down enough during the day, or it reduces battery life (think laptop that gets left plugged in Vs one that gets discharged a bit per day - leaving it plugged in kills the battery).
IMHO - Use it until your next at a charger be that at 70% or 7%.
JAmes.
This thread here might be a good reference for this topic.
jauhari said:
Hi All, I have question. Which one better to charge
1. Wait until Battery level reach 15% or less
2. Charge it every we want it, example battery status in 40% because we want to travelling, we charge it until 100%
3. Charge it every morning
4. Other Tips?
Best Regards
Jauhari
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1. I always try to charge it 10-15%
2. Sometimes i do charge it if the battery is 40% and im worried it might not last because i go somwhere, so charge it till full and unplug
3. Most of the time i charge it over night having the phone on.
Right now, end of day 2 and battery level is at 29%, probably due to 3g turned off as got connection failed error for couple days and cant connect :<
Put my new second battery to charge last night around 9pm - turned Desire off. The green light came after midnight, but I let the charger stay on. I disconnected the cable around 9am this morning - and the phone was on!!
It looks the phone turns on automatically when its fully charged(???!!!)
The charge was 94% with the green light on. Makes me doubt if the suggested (see other threads) initial charge needs to be 12hours. :/
How long did it take on you guys' devices to fully charge before starting it for the first time? Im asking because I'm getting mine delivered this wednesday at work at around 2PM, and I leave at 5PM. Will it be fully charged in three hours? i dont want to interrupt it the very fist time already...
I did mine yesterday in around 4 hours, it was power off so I didn't know when it exactly fully charged, when the time I saw the green LED light(i guess it's 90%) I still let it charge for an hour or so i think.
But I guess this thing doesn't matter anymore on lithium ion and lithium polymer(htc one x) batteries, it was important last time during nickel cadmium days.
Rycon33 said:
I did mine yesterday in around 4 hours, it was power off so I didn't know when it exactly fully charged, when the time I saw the green LED light(i guess it's 90%) I still let it charge for an hour or so i think.
But I guess this thing doesn't matter anymore on lithium ion and lithium polymer(htc one x) batteries, it was important last time during nickel cadmium days.
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Green light is full.
I used mine instantly after purchase, it only had about 15-20% left so I started charging it at 8%, took a few hours.. quite long.. but I guess that process will speed up after a while, like my other phone.
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My one x is currently charging and has been for roughly three quarters of an hour. The documentation it came with said that you have to charge it for at least 14 hours! That sounds ridiculous to me.
Did you guys have any issues with the battery after charging it for 3 or 4 hours?
coley501 said:
My one x is currently charging and has been for roughly three quarters of an hour. The documentation it came with said that you have to charge it for at least 14 hours! That sounds ridiculous to me.
Did you guys have any issues with the battery after charging it for 3 or 4 hours?
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14?? due i just charged till it became full ... even that was a little more than 3 hours .. this is official htc docs?? u sure ??
I'd say you just let it charge a night (+/- 8 hours) before you start using it. That's the most optimal way to charge it the first time.
But I couldn't wait so I just started charging the device from the start but also used it (which is imo still better then not charging).
A lot of people also say you shouldn't let the battery drop below 10 % on purpose, better just charge it every night! That's what I did with my HTC Desire (AOSP rom) and one full charge lasted 2 days of average use after 1.5 years. Hope to get the same result with this phone.
I left it for about 5 hours until it was fully green. First days usage today and it's been alright. I'd post a screenshot but xda app won't let me upload png. About 9 hours moderate use and at 10% now
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14?? due i just charged till it became full ... even that was a little more than 3 hours .. this is official htc docs?? u sure ??
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Nah its not the htc official docs, it was part of the phones 4 u pack I was sent. I believe its suspect at best.
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I'd say you just let it charge a night (+/- 8 hours) before you start using it. That's the most optimal way to charge it the first time.
But I couldn't wait so I just started charging the device from the start but also used it (which is imo still better then not charging).
A lot of people also say you shouldn't let the battery drop below 10 % on purpose, better just charge it every night! That's what I did with my HTC Desire (AOSP rom) and one full charge lasted 2 days of average use after 1.5 years. Hope to get the same result with this phone.
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If I had enough patience then I would definitely leave it to charge for 8 hours. I'll crack the moment the led turns green, I know it.
I've heard that 40% is the optimum level of charge for keeping the battery healthy
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Nah its not the htc official docs, it was part of the phones 4 u pack I was sent. I believe its suspect at best.
If I had enough patience then I would definitely leave it to charge for 8 hours. I'll crack the moment the led turns green, I know it.
I've heard that 40% is the optimum level of charge for keeping the battery healthy
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LOL trust me ... i thought id let it charge for 10-15 mins after green ... and i cracked i saw the display on once before i charged and felt like it was bitting my ass just sitting there turned off lolz
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I've heard that 40% is the optimum level of charge for keeping the battery healthy
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Yes that can very well be, that's the % I normally had left on the Desire after a day (with more then average use). I charged it every night and the battery was still awesome at the end. Considering the One X has the same battery technology I'm going to do the exact same thing.
Keep in mind that a green led doesn't mean it is fully charged (at least not the first time). The led turns green when the software says the battery is full, but the issue is that the battery never had been full when you charge it the first time. So that first green led is quite useless, the software isn't optimized yet. Rather watch the clock!
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knightrocker said:
LOL trust me ... i thought id let it charge for 10-15 mins after green ... and i cracked i saw the display on once before i charged and felt like it was bitting my ass just sitting there turned off lolz
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Yeah the exact same thing happened to me! I got a glimpse of the lock screen and found out what I was missing. its been preying on my mind ever since.
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Yes that can very well be, that's the % I normally had left on the Desire after a day (with more then average use). I charged it every night and the battery was still awesome at the end. Considering the One X has the same battery technology I'm going to do the exact same thing.
Keep in mind that a green led doesn't mean it is fully charged (at least not the first time). The led turns green when the software says the battery is full, but the issue is that the battery never had been full when you charge it the first time. So that first green led is quite useless, the software isn't optimized yet. Rather watch the clock!
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The thing that worries me about charging it every night is that it remains plugged in for several hours after its reached full battery. There isn't much you can really do about that though.
Yeah, I was told that the first couple of charges were used to calibrate the battery monitor and you have to make sure that its fully charged before you unplug. In fact, my Nexus s (soon to be 'my old nexus s') only ever charged up to '97%' according to the various battery widgets I used. This may have been to do with me not charging it properly the first time.
What I want to know is can I turn it on and let it continue to charge? That way I can set it up and install my apps etc (and, of course, have a play) so I don't go insane waiting without damaging the battery life.
There we go.
Not bad for first day I suppose.
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There we go.
Not bad for first day I suppose.
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Not bad at all for the first day. The LED indicator is green now and I'm desperately trying to be patient and wait a little longer. I need willpower.
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There we go.
Not bad for first day I suppose.
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Did you check what your screen on time was?
First time 2.5 hours, now from 0 to 100% around 3 hours.
Found Interesting article on initial battery charge
http://dottech.org/tipsntricks/1770...sure-to-condition-it-properly/comment-page-1/
hope this helps
Is there a preferred battery charging regimen for the One X battery?
That is, is it better to, say, always let it drop to 15% and then recharge to 100%, or can/should I charge whenever possible, or in smaller increments?
Also, are there disadvantages to using the phone while charging (as I tend to do quite a lot )?
Thanks!
i normally let mine down to about 10% then just charge it too 100%
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i normally let mine down to about 10% then just charge it too 100%
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Right, but do you know if this is actually the way to go with the Li-Po battery or are you, like me, just winging it?
When i first got my phone i let it run down till it asked for the charger, then left it on charge over night.
I did this for the first 3 or 4 times as i found this yields the longest battery life, since then i charge every 2 days regardless what percentage is left always over night though.
Going to leave it tonight & see if it will go till tomorrow night, its been off charge since 7am on Friday morning so far & is still on 46% a total of 39 hours so far.
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When i first got my phone i let it run down till it asked for the charger, then left it on charge over night.
I did this for the first 3 or 4 times as i found this yields the longest battery life, since then i charge every 2 days regardless what percentage is left always over night though.
Going to leave it tonight & see if it will go till tomorrow night, its been off charge since 7am on Friday morning so far & is still on 46% a total of 39 hours so far.
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You get two days on a charge? Are you a wizard? Although, having just got the phone (and possessing the patience of a 5 year old), I've done a lot of start-stop charging, which I suspect isn't optimal.
I'll try to refrain from trickle charging for a while, see how much difference it makes. Thanks.
Another battery charging thread? Just plug in the damn phone! It will take care of the rest.
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I have noticed that the battery does drain in strange amounts.
I have my wifi & gps on constantly, my phone went for 2 days 5 hours & i received a text at which point the phone was at 34% battery.
The phone was put back in stand by & the phone went totally flat in the next 4 hours, this i find strange as over night in stand by it only uses 1 - 2%.
There is obviously a bug in the way the phone reports its battery state, by my reasoning this must be some 10 - 15% lower than what it is reporting.
It does seem to have some difficulties reading the battery level correctly. I've noted a couple of times that it shows a significantly higher charge level (+5-7%) after a reboot. Which is hardly likely to recharge the battery. (Unless I got me one of those perpetuum mobile, in which case, yay!)
Just this past week I got two of these extended batteries off of Ebay. Although I'm still calibrating the one seen on the charger. I really haven't found anything concrete on how long a battery like this is suppose to charge for? I've read things such as charge it in the phone (which the phone will charge it as if it's the stock battery) use the charger that came with it (charger in the photo continually thinks that the battery is at full charge, when it was in the phone until it died.) To battery calibration apps which I'm reading don't do anything, to bloatware. So if anyone can help me out, it would be great. And sorry if I made any mistakes in this, sending this from my phone is kinda hard for me.
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I have the same extended battery and I can say that I have no idea. I'm using custom roms, and a charge lasts anywhere from a day to 3. I would say charge it in the phone til full, then drain it by using it, and do that a couple of times, it gets better as time goes on.
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I have the same battery and when I use the phone to charge it it takes 6 - 7 hours and it lasts pretty good but since I've installed the shot of awesomeness by team inferno the original battery is good enough for my day... My max was 1d 14 hrs 10m 20s with 2% left... Big thanks to team inferno!!!
I recently bought a note 3 and I wanted to ask is it okay if I put it into overnight charge even if the battery is 60-70% ?
Does putting it on a charger over long period of times affect the battery life?
battery has protective circuit that will cut off the current when fully charged, since Li-ion batts are very sensitive to overcharging and discharging bellow spec and will get damaged quickly if done so. However, since there is always some possibility of malfunction I would not leave the batt. at home on the charger and left for 2 weeks vacation, but overnight should be fine, probably many people do so.
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battery has protective circuit that will cut off the current when fully charged, since Li-ion batts are very sensitive to overcharging and discharging bellow spec and will get damaged quickly if done so. However, since there is always some possibility of malfunction I would not leave the batt. at home on the charger and left for 2 weeks vacation, but overnight should be fine, probably many people do so.
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Thank you Pete for such an elaborate reply. In your opinion would it affect the battery if I put the phone over night every night for, let's say, 3-4 months?
I charge nightly so that when I wake up the phone is fully charged. Seriously, if the battery starts to wear out you can simply replace it. It is removable. Not a big deal.
I leave it charging every night
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Buy an extra battery and swap out when it gets down to 15%. Saves wear and tear on the charging port and keeps away extraneous heat from having the phone itself charging the battery.
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I recently bought a note 3 and I wanted to ask is it okay if I put it into overnight charge even if the battery is 60-70% ?
Does putting it on a charger over long period of times affect the battery life?
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Imho even if you would charge overnight you wont notice any difference untill your phone is EOL. Even if you would treat your liion battery like a princess it would still die in ~5 years (please correct me if im wrong).
Even though this is only my personal experience and your mileage may differ, but im currently using a HTC HD2 which is still going strong on its first battery. I plug it in almost every night before i go to bed.
Edit: and I must add that really your phone is designed to be used like this. If you only have 70% left and you really need that extra juice the next (few) day(s) because you wont have a charger with you, just plug it in as you go to bed.
If you really go out of your way to rape your battery every day, just buy a new one when its EOL, if you haven't gotten a new device already.
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