Hi all,
So long story short, I lost my Sensation in Thailand and am holding off buying a new phone until the One XL is released. In the mean time, I'm trying to recondition my Desire. It is rooted, but doesn't have S-Off. It is running HBoot 0.80.0000.
I want to flash a Data++ Hboot, as the low storage space warnings used to drive me crazy!
I want to use Revolutionary to obtain S-Off. but it only supports HBoot 0.93.0001 and upwards. I have no idea how to update my HBoot without having S-Off.
Tried the alpharev iso method, (which doesn't seem to care about the HBoot version) but it fails at step 3 (seems to boot loop). Thankfully it didn't brick!
So my question is:
How can I get S-Off?
Cheers.
Did you tried to flash the official 2.3 GB and then S-OFF?
It should change your hboot to 1.02.0001.
k3lcior said:
Did you tried to flash the official 2.3 GB and then S-OFF?
It should change your hboot to 1.02.0001.
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This seems like the most logical answer.
Download this http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152
Then use revolutionary.
You'll only need the Data++ HBoot if the ROM you intend to use requires it. Make sure you pick the ROM you want first and flash the HBoot that applies to it, otherwise you'll have to flash downgrade and flash new Hboot all over again, making more work for yourself.
Thanks for the feedback all.
Ended up having to give up cos the phone keeps randomly boot looping. Sometimes it will boot, other times it reboots as soon as sense loads and then goes into a reboot loop.
I somehow managed to flash a stock ROM and remove root, yet it still randomly boot loops, so I'm suspecting it's hardware related, which totally sucks!
Would you agree with this assessment? If not, what else could be causing it to randomly reboot?
Cheers!
Try underclocking the phone's CPU and try it again. Also, try flashing to Cyanogenmod 7.1 ROM, run that on my Desire and I have no stability issues, unlike older ROMs.
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Try underclocking the phone's CPU and try it again. Also, try flashing to Cyanogenmod 7.1 ROM, run that on my Desire and I have no stability issues, unlike older ROMs.
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Doubt it'd help. Boot cycling happens outside of the actual ROM.
An update on the S-Off process...
I successfully flashed the Gingerbread ROM and then got S-Off using Revolutionary. I flashed the Data++ HBoot and then flashed Leedroid HD v3.3.3-R5 Data++ build. Worked first boot and I was able to install a few apps and work the phone. Rebooted to see what would happen and then got boot loops (sometimes got as far as displaying the unlock screen before restarting but often rebooted whilst displaying the custom Leedroid boot animation).
Seems If I leave it off for a while it will successfully boot off a cold start, but once it's been on a while it boot loops. Overheating CPU??
If this is not hardware related, I'm out of troubleshooting ideas...
At this point, the phone is well and truly out of warranty, so I'm happy to tinker with it. Would it be worth taking it apart? Is it possible to add thermal paste to the CPU?
Would love some suggestions!
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Hi guys I'm trying to s-off using alpharev ISO disc...it goes through the process then after rebooting stage 3 I get 4 lines that say unary operator expected ... I shut down pc and phone boots as usual...
I'm running rxmix s v1.1
maybe change to stock ROM and try s-off again
Yes like the post above switch to a ROOTED stock froyo rom worked for me, the reason your getting errors is because the rom you are running has probably got data2whatever, data++ ect... this affects the alpha rev process.
Ditto above. Alpharev doesn't work on a2sd or similar ROMs... Look back a couple pages and you'll see I started a thread with the same issue. I'm on IC GB a2sd+...
Once pc is repaired, I plan to load stock Telstra RUU and try again, then re-root...
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Hi guys I'm trying to s-off using alpharev ISO disc...it goes through the process then after rebooting stage 3 I get 4 lines that say unary operator expected ... I shut down pc and phone boots as usual...
I'm running rxmix s v1.1
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First, you better use USB stick instead of a disc, it is faster a more reliable.
Secondly, you won't be able to get s-off unless you flash either stock rom or AOSP rom ( oxygen worked for me without any problems).
mikeraul said:
First, you better use USB stick instead of a disc, it is faster a more reliable.
Secondly, you won't be able to get s-off unless you flash either stock rom or AOSP rom ( oxygen worked for me without any problems).
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+1, I s-off my phone with oxygen running on it.
ThaNx everyone for the help will try it that way and let you all no if it worked
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thanks everyone for the help it worked fine now i have fully rooted and s-offed htc desire...now to get back into the flashing fun.
When the moderator reads this i have no problems if this thread is deleted thanks again
bailz2506 said:
thanks everyone for the help it worked fine now i have fully rooted and s-offed htc desire...now to get back into the flashing fun.
When the moderator reads this i have no problems if this thread is deleted thanks again
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Happy to hear
Hi folks. Writing this without any hope that someone is online at the moment.
I'm currently using alpharev to flash HBOOT on my htc desire. It has stucked on step 3 with two lines on phone's screen:
Aplharev SPLBOOT version 2.0
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Normal NAND detected. Non-PVT4
and keeps hanging like that nearly an hour already.
The phone is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery and InserCoin 2.0.1 DATA2EXT ROM installed.
Did anybody have the same behaviour while flashing HBOOT?
Should I be patient and wait for some miracle to happen?
thanks in advance.
Are you S-Off already??
use the new S-OFF utility. It's a lot quicker and easier. Just make sure you uninstall HTC Sync, or at least make sure it isn't running.
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Are you S-Off already??
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no...
just saw here an advice to wait for a long term and the to pull out the battery and reboot.
did as he said.
device is rebooting in fastboot mode...
will try to restore previous ROM from recovery mode...
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no...
just saw here an advice to wait for a long term and the to pull out the battery and reboot.
did as he said.
device is rebooting in fastboot mode...
will try to restore previous ROM from recovery mode...
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try it with the new utility.. it should work for you..
finally I've restored my previous ROM (and sh*tted a pile of bricks during this hour).
HBOOT screen says that my device is still S-ON. strange... maybe that's because of 'DATA2EXT' ROM onboard.
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use the new "...revolutionary.io/" S-OFF utility. It's a lot quicker and easier. Just make sure you uninstall HTC Sync, or at least make sure it isn't running.
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thanks. I'll try it when my hands will stop shaking
You won't be able to alter HBoot without S-Off...
I am not sure how the new Utility that bortak linked to works, but I know that the "old" alpharev will not S-Off if you are using A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT type ROMs. You will need to flash stock RUU (do not use latest GB update RUU!!!), or one of the AOSP ROMs, such as Oxygen, before proceeding.
Once you have S-Off, you can go back and re-root, then upgrade your HBoot etc.
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You won't be able to alter HBoot without S-Off...
I am not sure how the new Utility that bortak linked to works, but I know that the "old" alpharev will not S-Off if you are using A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT type ROMs. You will need to flash stock RUU (do not use latest GB update RUU!!!), or one of the AOSP ROMs, such as Oxygen, before proceeding.
Once you have S-Off, you can go back and re-root, then upgrade your HBoot etc.
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thanks. I'll follow your advice.
I'm still wondering, why TUT-makers didn't mention this A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT ROMs inconsistency.
I think this should be written in large letters on the first line for noobs like me
Lol, you're right on that!!
If you look on alpharev site, it is mentioned in the text, but VERY small!
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I missed it the first time also, had lots of dramas, and finally spotted that note after many frustrating hours. It should have been written in bright red, 72 cap at the top of screen!!
You need to use an a2sd Rom like lee Droid 2.5.
Alpha rev state this at start of web page using data2sd can cause problems.
Flash lee Droid 2.5 and try it again, you should be fine
Kind regards
John
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It is being said on Alpharev website under "requirements".
Though I agree it should be said in tutorials too.
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thanks. I'll follow your advice.
I'm still wondering, why TUT-makers didn't mention this A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT ROMs inconsistency.
I think this should be written in large letters on the first line for noobs like me
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Hello all,
I have decided to go ahead and flash a custom ROM without all the sense stuff on it. Not sure which one though.
Anyhow, I know that the fist step is to root. I tried to use the unrevoked way, but I cannot.
I have installed the drivers and the program finds it ok, but once the program makes my desire reboot, the desire just goes into a reboot loop!
I need to remove the battery to make it stop. Sometimes, even once it fully boots up, the phone reboots again while it is syncing itself!
Is there another way to root the phone for those of us with the random reboot problem?
Oh, I have the latest OTA update.
Here, grab the 3.21 version instead. It seems to work a lot better than newer versions.
Thanks. I will try that.
Do I really need this S-OFF stuff? I dont even really want the root, but as i understand it, I must have root to install one of the unofficial ROMS.
You have to ROOT in order to flash custom ROM's but S-OFF is not necessary, its for more advanced users.
When you download ROM of your like, be sure its made for Stock HBOOT (it should say in first post), if its for Oxygen or CM7 HBOOT then you need S-OFF and flash custom HBOOT or you will end up with bootloop.
S-Off isn't needed to run custom roms, just rooting is needed. S-Off is for those that want that extra and understand the consequencies of when something goes wrong.
sounds...complicated I was going to try Oxygen or CM7, or perhaps insertcoin.
roms apps2sd+ versions don't require s-off
insertcoin comes in two flavours if i read write - one for s-on (apps2sd stock hboot) and one for s-off (cm7 hboot)
It's not complicated. All you do is use a utility that you burn to a CD/USB and boot off of it. You go through the utility and it runs and unlocks your NAND. Simple.
The next stage after this is all done is to flash a custom hboot, this take little more than 5 mins to setup and takes about 1 min (less prob) to get it to flash fully.
People tend to say to avoid it if you don't know what your doing. The reason being is that during the process of S-Off'ing your device it requires a custom hboot being flashed. When flashing the custom hboot messes up then you **** your phone up basically and it will be completely bricked.
Well..I at least got the root part working. now I just need to figure out which ROM and HBOOT combo to go with.
Hi,
I recently installed an alpharev hboot, but else but satisfied with the fact that I suddenly only had 6MB left of space on my phone I tried to push in an original RUU to reset the hboot. Wich was partly succesful. Now though I discovered the Alpharev hboot still was there, and this resulted in my phone getting stuck at the very first bootscreen where it says HTC.
The plan so on is to root it, and load in the backup I took with Rom Manager.
So, are there anything I can do? Push in a ROM manually, or something like that?
EDIT: I have now found that there is a downgrade hboot, wich I have flashed in now. Though it looks to be too late..
-Djomes
what HBOOT did you use and with witch ROM did you use it on.... changing the HBOOT to any thing other then stock if you are using a stock rom will make you lose space... you need to take a look and see what hboot is needed for your rom
If you want to go back to S-OFF then just flash a stock RRU
Okay, so I flashed the 1.32 RUU to be able to upgrade my DHD up to 3.12.405. so that I could install the unlockable HBOOT.
According to HTC this unlocked HBOOT should let you flash custom ROMs.
I went to to htcdev.com and followed their steps to unlock my bootloader, which worked flawlessly..
Except when i flash custom ROMs the phone hangs on splashscreen. I've tried full wipe and clean install, I've even tried restoring backed up ROMs.
Any one else have simlar problems? or a solution?
anything that may help?
Since I don't read anything about it, I'm gonna ask you: Did you flash a recovery?
Yes sorry for not managing to provide that info before :-/
I have ClockworkMod 5.0.2.0
And do you also know that after flashing a custom ROM the first boot might take a loooong time?
OFC. I've waited over 20 minutes for the thing to boot but nothing happens.
Only thing i can think of is that it might be that it is S-ON and not S-OFF.
also i can recover the backed up stock ROM.
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I got Advanced ACE Hack Kit to degrade it so now I'm able to S-OFF, super CID and everything again
All I had to do was to relock the bootloader and run the AAHK
Thank for the responses.
Moderators may close this now.
I have a Desire Bravo (A8181)
I installed Gingerbread 2.3.3 using the file from the HTC site.
I am not happy with it ( spontaneous reboots, drains battery, other crazy stuff)
I don't want to root so I'd just like to go back to 2.2
Can someone link to a procedure to get back to 2.2.
People are using Official 2.3.3 mostly as a troubleshooting tool or for warranty purpose.
However you cant downgrade it by RUU to lower version. The RUU will not proceed giving version problems.
The only way would be to SOFF using revolutionary and thereafter if you really want FROYO you can choose from many of the stock offerings available at Desire Development section.
My phone is not rooted
Is there anything else to do, besides SOFF and getting FROYO. Do I have to root the phone?
desirus said:
My phone is not rooted
Is there anything else to do, besides SOFF and getting FROYO. Do I have to root the phone?
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You dont have to root the phone if you use revolutionary. But definitely will have to go SOFF. If you are worried because of brick possibility then you must know that with Android 2.3.3 the way to root is via SOFF. Actually with revolutionary SOFF is the main thing. After that you can flash a rooted rom from recovery if you want which is a low risk activity.
I would personally recommend Mildwild 5.0 based on CM7.2 as one of the most stable rom.
OK thanks
Can I use this wiki?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Full_Update_Guide
I think it is what you are talking about except it links to cyanogen mods, why is mildwild better than cyanogen?
Also I just went tinto bootloader and see I already have S-OFF
"BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-OFF"
I don't know how this happened, do I still do S-OFF and install custom recovery image?
desirus said:
OK thanks
Can I use this wiki?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Full_Update_Guide
I think it is what you are talking about except it links to cyanogen mods, why is mildwild better than cyanogen?
Also I just went tinto bootloader and see I already have S-OFF
"BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-OFF"
I don't know how this happened, do I still do S-OFF and install custom recovery image?
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NO need to s-off if u r s-off, get 4ext recovery updater apk install it, run it, now u will have the latest recovery.
now u can pretty much put what ever rom u want on.
Just read instructions in the thread the rom came from and remember to NANDROID BACKUP as soon as u install the recovery.
I did manage to install Mildwild ( I couldn't get 4ext to install so I re did the s-off, rooted and installed Mildwild 5)
Thank you very much for the advice.
I still get spontaneous shutdown of my phone so I have to research this problem.
desirus said:
I still get spontaneous shutdown of my phone so I have to research this problem.
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I think that comes from your device being a PVT1. These type of desires are known to reboot when overheating due to a motherboard problem.
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unlock the bootloader, flash a clockworkmod recovery and flash an android 2.2 rom. i think that is the easiest way.
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huhu2207 said:
unlock the bootloader, flash a clockworkmod recovery and flash an android 2.2 rom. i think that is the easiest way.
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I just ordered an original battery from HTC, if I can't find a software fix to 2.3.7 and if the new battery doesn't work then I will go back to 2.2.
But I think that because I used the official RUU from HTC for 2.3, then I have to use a custom ROM for 2.2. If I am wrong then please tell me, after all these problems I would use an official 2.2 ROM if it would make my problems go away.
desirus said:
I did manage to install Mildwild
I still get spontaneous shutdown of my phone so I have to research this problem.
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abaaaabbbb63 said:
I think that comes from your device being a PVT1. These type of desires are known to reboot when overheating due to a motherboard problem.
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desirus said:
I just ordered an original battery from HTC, if I can't find a software fix to 2.3.7 and if the new battery doesn't work then I will go back to 2.2.
But I think that because I used the official RUU from HTC for 2.3, then I have to use a custom ROM for 2.2. If I am wrong then please tell me, after all these problems I would use an official 2.2 ROM if it would make my problems go away.
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The key is you still get spontaneous reboots. That means it is not related to ROM.
I agree with the assessment of abaa.... Your problem seems to be hardware related and nothing you can do other than replace motherboard. However if you want to rule out battery problems just keep it connected to charger and play a heavy game. If it reboots then your motherboard problem is confirmed.
The problem is shut down.
I haven't had rebooots
But I'll try heavy gaming while plugged in
I have a bit of good news, I think
I have made some changes to user options, according to some suggestions I found and have some good results.
After my changes, In 6 days I have had only one freeze ( where the phone was asleep and only a battery pull could fix the problem).
Before the changes I had 4-8 freezes each day, for a few weeks.
I will do some more testing but i think it is because of one of two reasons. Either because I swithced to "GSM only" from "GSM/WCDMA ( WCDMA prefered)" Or because I selected " Use only 2G networks"
I'll play around for a week or two but that is my interim result.