I'm looking for a way to go from stock rom to a custom rom and back to stock without having to use a pc.
It would be cool if all of this could be done through clockworkmod or a version of odin that would run similar to clockworkmod on the phone itself.
Does anyone know a way to do this?
Has anyone heard about a person or an organization that is working on this sort of thing?
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Well, i've downloaded ROMs to the Epic while on the go, rooted with z4root, done a CWM backup (before i ever flash a new ROM), booted into recovery, and flashed ROM of choice all without using a computer. I'm not as smart as any of the devs but it seems fairly easy for me this way.
Right now on my microSD card, i have several zipped ROMs on there (stock DI18, DK28, some custom ROMS as well) . I'll bet a lot of folks do the same as well.
There are some things you just can't do without odin.
If you read through the one-click root and recovery .bat file, you should be able to figure out how to root yout phone and install cwm without a computer. Remember to back up the original recovery if you plan on putting it back later without odin. You can then flash around to DI18 roms and get a stock di18 image to go back to.
If you want to mess with froyo, learn to odin.
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If you want to mess with froyo, learn to odin.
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I'm not sure about that. I ALWAYS keep a stock di18.zip on my sdcard, as a just-in-case. And I also know that noobnls post where I got it from also has a di18 modem in case your coming from a different firmware version...so there should be a dk28.zip and modem.zip right? If so why not?
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Trying to flash an entire tar without odin or heimdall is dangerous... it is the boot.bin and sbl.bin that are most dangerous to work with... a wrong flash with sbl CAN brick the phone... as in, you can't even get to download mode. The sbl I know is different with Froyo. The other issue is with the modem, but modem flashes have been made that'll work in some cases.
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Why do you have to flash to a stock rom before moving to a custom rom? If I want to install Viper 5.0 on EB13, why do I have to go to stock EB13 first? Just curious. If I flash to the stock EB13, does that change the modem to EB13? I'm on DK28 now with Viper Trinity 2.0 and want to try 5.0...Why can't I just do the wipe 3 times and then flash the custom rom? I just want to understand this is all.
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Its worth a try.... if it doesn't boot you'll have to odin anyway. Wipe everything 3x each and flash your rom and see if it fixes it. Also, you can always flash different modems with odin.
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qbking77 said:
Its worth a try.... if it doesn't boot you'll have to odin anyway. Wipe everything 3x each and flash your rom and see if it fixes it. Also, you can always flash different modems with odin.
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Sure, but that doesn't really get to the root of my question. When I went from EC05 stock to DK28 ViperRom, why did I have to flash to the stock DK28? what significance does this have?
KiloJKilo said:
Sure, but that doesn't really get to the root of my question. When I went from EC05 stock to DK28 ViperRom, why did I have to flash to the stock DK28? what significance does this have?
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It is probably due to the modem compatibility and support files. Most ROMs include all support and stock files needed but may remove bloatware. Some check for modem and will install the needed modem, others not. For EB13 and EC05 ROMs the support files and data are compatible but not necessarily with DK28 since that was an early leak.
As mentioned, back up your stuff and you can always try without Odin'ing first and if you get no errors you are good to go.
you dont have too., you could just odin the modem, and flash the rom... unless you have to change from rfs to ext4 or vice versa
Title says most of it but will give whole back story.
On EL29 Rooted using the EL29 Odin flash then used the e4gtauto-sfx and flashed EL29+CWM. Used CWM did a backup and then installed Blazer Rom tried it for a few days and then wanted to try something else to see what else there is. So not thinking I used Odin and used the flash back to EL29 rooted and then lost CWM.
I am now trying to use the e4gtauto-sfx to flash back to EL29+CWM but it gets to waiting for device to be connected and will go no further. I have checked and unchecked usb debugging, installed and uninstalled drivers again and again and no matter what I do the e4gtauto-sfx will not connect to my phone again. I can use Odin fine and I can see it in my device manager the same as before other programs like CDMA Workshop recognize it fine but not the e4gtauto-sfx.
Out of ideas of how to fix it so here asking for any help to try to figure this out.
Get the EG30 Odin or get a kernel with CWM built in in Odin form. EL29 has a different bootloader that's why the auto root does not work on it. I always just flash EG30 and go at it from there fast and simple.
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Get the EG30 Odin or get a kernel with CWM built in in Odin form. EL29 has a different bootloader that's why the auto root does not work on it. I always just flash EG30 and go at it from there fast and simple.
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So I can use the "same" EG30 root flash for Odin just like I did the EL29 or some other steps required to flash different modems?
Yes just find a kernel with CWM already built in in Odin tar format. Use Odin to flash it and it will give you CWM back and you are fine.
My rule of thumb I just always keep EG30 tar around if I need it but that's me.
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So I can use the "same" EG30 root flash for Odin just like I did the EL29 or some other steps required to flash different modems?
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odin does not require a rooted phone to flash.
you can flash any rom/kernel/modem you wish providing it is a .tar file.
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Out of ideas of how to fix it so here asking for any help to try to figure this out.
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If Auto Root doesn't recognize your phone, basically "adb" doesn't recognize your phone. That is pretty basic functionality if you are on xda. You should go over FAQ #E3 in the 2nd post of the Auto Root thread, which is the troubleshooting checklist. I would reboot your PC also (or kill the adb server using Option E)
You don't actually need a PC to install CWM. Just copy the files in copy2sd\000root and copy2sd-img\000root to your /sdcard on your phone and follow the manual install directions in the 2nd post of the Auto Root thread.
Hi all, I've been reading a lot of threads around here about safely flashing our phone. I'd like to verify somethings before I go around flashing things.
It is my understanding that its ok to go from any rom to any rom using sfhubs odin oneclick methods. Is this correct?
It is also my understanding that I can flash any rom (unless otherwise stated) from CWM recovery safely if I am back to EL26+CWM using ODIN.
I have some confusion about this. Currently I am on a stock EL29 unrooted build, if I want to flash an ICS rom would I flash the EL26+CWM tar via ODIN and then use CWM to wipe and flash ICS? Is it also required that I flash an applicable kernel along with the rom?
Also I have never used odin before. Do I need to install this program from somewhere first before I can flash things?
Do I need to root my existing EL29 setup before I can flash the EL26+CWM tar?
Sorry for the huge number of noob questions, I just don't want to take chances with my phone. I'm an HTC guy and things seem to be done very very differently there. I'm very interested in trying the upcoming date to the Blend ICS "The Goodness" rom.
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Hi all, I've been reading a lot of threads around here about safely flashing our phone. I'd like to verify somethings before I go around flashing things.
It is my understanding that its ok to go from any rom to any rom using sfhubs odin oneclick methods. Is this correct?
It is also my understanding that I can flash any rom (unless otherwise stated) from CWM recovery safely if I am back to EL26+CWM using ODIN.
I have some confusion about this. Currently I am on a stock EL29 unrooted build, if I want to flash an ICS rom would I flash the EL26+CWM tar via ODIN and then use CWM to wipe and flash ICS? Is it also required that I flash an applicable kernel along with the rom?
Also I have never used odin before. Do I need to install this program from somewhere first before I can flash things?
Do I need to root my existing EL29 setup before I can flash the EL26+CWM tar?
Sorry for the huge number of noob questions, I just don't want to take chances with my phone. I'm an HTC guy and things seem to be done very very differently there. I'm very interested in trying the upcoming date to the Blend ICS "The Goodness" rom.
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1. Yes as long ad you get into download mode
2. Yes
3. Yes but usually roms come with a kernel that works already, check OP for each
4. Yes get either mobile Odin from the market or get it on ur PC (best to have both)
5. Yes you have to be rooted to flash anything
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poweroutlet said:
Hi all, I've been reading a lot of threads around here about safely flashing our phone. I'd like to verify somethings before I go around flashing things.
It is my understanding that its ok to go from any rom to any rom using sfhubs odin oneclick methods. Is this correct?
It is also my understanding that I can flash any rom (unless otherwise stated) from CWM recovery safely if I am back to EL26+CWM using ODIN.
I have some confusion about this. Currently I am on a stock EL29 unrooted build, if I want to flash an ICS rom would I flash the EL26+CWM tar via ODIN and then use CWM to wipe and flash ICS? Is it also required that I flash an applicable kernel along with the rom?
Also I have never used odin before. Do I need to install this program from somewhere first before I can flash things?
Do I need to root my existing EL29 setup before I can flash the EL26+CWM tar?
Sorry for the huge number of noob questions, I just don't want to take chances with my phone. I'm an HTC guy and things seem to be done very very differently there. I'm very interested in trying the upcoming date to the Blend ICS "The Goodness" rom.
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The best advice I can give you is to look up qbking77 on youtube. He has step by step how to videos on rooting and flashing your E4GT.
Start here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7pWjmKCsoc&feature=plcp
He has a link in the description on how to add CWM
Ill tell ya right now I would not recommend flashing an ICS rom it is soo buggy I hate it! I just installed the tablet one I forget what it is called but nothing but force closes even when ya aint doing anything it will just force close on ya. Stick with gingerbread untill there is a final release for ics trust me. Way to buggy right now!
I must agree with RB!
I would not mess with ICS if you are new to this phone (and even some that are not ). If you really like your phone, I would recommend trying out the many Gingerbread roms for a while. It is a much safer and far more stabile learning platform than ICS.
As far as flashing ICS I would check out one of the official leaked builds before trying out a custom ROM. I've noticed that some people seem to have different problems even though we all have the same phone. The changes from GB to ICS were enough to drive me nuts sometimes, but I've been using the leaked builds with minimal problems for the last few weeks. The newest one is FE10 and is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648045
I have to say I take back what I said I was getting all those force closes but then I did another factory data reset and now it is running smooth and I am LOVING ICS!!! You should check out the Hydra Rom by team Venum it is soo sick! It makes your phone like a tablet!!!
True you can use either Odin or Mobile Odin (and it is best to have both). But I find Mobile Odin much more convenient. I always keep an the EL26+CWM tar and an ICS Tar (Kernals) on my phone at all times. It is much safer to do anything on the EL26 kernal such as wiping, flashing, nanding, and etc. Even if you are on an ICS rom you can Mobile Odin to the EL26 kernal flash whatever you want, and lastly flash back to an ICS kernal and reboot. That is about as safe as you can be. Like the other posters said though try out some GB roms first there are many great developers, and these roms generally have far less risk associated with them. I am currently running Epic Venum Rom and it is great. Happy flashing!
Yea ya see sometimes when people ask for opinions on here I say try it yourself because its different for everyone. My battery life compared to yours and my user experience compared to yours. I am on Codename and have 0 issues and honestly dont even need an upgrade. I could rock this ICS till my next phone.
Hey OP do yourself a favor read yo ass off up in here and please please please follow directions to the "t" and just try out a few roms
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I have to say I take back what I said I was getting all those force closes but then I did another factory data reset and now it is running smooth and I am LOVING ICS!!! You should check out the Hydra Rom by team Venum it is soo sick! It makes your phone like a tablet!!!
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LMAO RB. You're really gonna confuse the guy now.
Thanks for all the informative responses all. I think I mostly have this down now.
I rooted my stock build with sfhub's odin OC, then used sfhub's autorooting utility to flash EL26+CWM. Got into CWM and wiped everything a few times and then flashed Blu Kuban ICS.
Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?
Can anyone recommend me an ICS rom that is fairly similar to a stock ICS experience? It doesn't have to be CM9 or AOKP. I'm just tired of Samsung's cartoony icons and themes. "The goodness" seemed interesting.
Also what is the best Gingerbread rom around here in case I decide to stick to that? Any that are themed like ICS?
Also if I wanted to, I could go from my blu kuban ICS rom straight to FE10 using the Odin OC safely right?
poweroutlet said:
Thanks for all the informative responses all. I think I mostly have this down now.
I rooted my stock build with sfhub's odin OC, then used sfhub's autorooting utility to flash EL26+CWM. Got into CWM and wiped everything a few times and then flashed Blu Kuban ICS.
Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?
Can anyone recommend me an ICS rom that is fairly similar to a stock ICS experience? It doesn't have to be CM9 or AOKP. I'm just tired of Samsung's cartoony icons and themes. "The goodness" seemed interesting.
Also what is the best Gingerbread rom around here in case I decide to stick to that? Any that are themed like ICS?
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Do the whole one click process over again, it's safer that way.
Here is Calk's ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041
He also has a Gingerbread ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
Thanks for the help all. I settled on tFE10_v0.1.0, a tweaked version of the FE10 leak. It's also skinned to look like stock ICS and I'm using it with the ICS launcher instead of TW.
Smooth, stable and good battery life so far. I'm quite happy with it.
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Thanks for the help all. I settled on tFE10_v0.1.0, a tweaked version of the FE10 leak. It's also skinned to look like stock ICS and I'm using it with the ICS launcher instead of TW.
Smooth, stable and good battery life so far. I'm quite happy with it.
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+1 for that ROM... Awesome in every way!
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"Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?"
Odin OC back to EL29. It is HIGHLY recommended that you not flash GB kernels on ICS roms, so flashing EL26 from ICS is not ideal. Insofar as rom i was on goodness until just recently, which is great, but recently switched to AOKP build 35, which is AMAZING
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Thanks for all the informative responses all. I think I mostly have this down now.
I rooted my stock build with sfhub's odin OC, then used sfhub's autorooting utility to flash EL26+CWM. Got into CWM and wiped everything a few times and then flashed Blu Kuban ICS.
Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?
Can anyone recommend me an ICS rom that is fairly similar to a stock ICS experience? It doesn't have to be CM9 or AOKP. I'm just tired of Samsung's cartoony icons and themes. "The goodness" seemed interesting.
Also what is the best Gingerbread rom around here in case I decide to stick to that? Any that are themed like ICS?
Also if I wanted to, I could go from my blu kuban ICS rom straight to FE10 using the Odin OC safely right?
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I would just flash el26+cwm from mobile odin/odin and boot into recovery. Once there just wipe and flash like you did for Blu Kuban. You don't have to go back to GB ROM, just need el26+cwm. As stated above it is unsafe to flash to el26+cwm using ICS recovery, but is safe to Odin/Mobile Odin to it. I always have stockel26cwm.tar, an AOSP kernel, a stock ICS kernel, and whatever ROMs I'm currently using. I also always have Mobile Odin and Root Explorer installed.
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I would definitely look into the HyDrA rom this rom is soo sick I cant even explain it! You need to actually use it to appreciate it. I knew as soon as I saw the review video by qbking I had to have it. Ill post a link for the review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxP0V-CowTs
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I would just flash el26+cwm from mobile odin/odin and boot into recovery. Once there just wipe and flash like you did for Blu Kuban. You don't have to go back to GB ROM, just need el26+cwm. As stated above it is unsafe to flash to el26+cwm using ICS recovery, but is safe to Odin/Mobile Odin to it. I always have stockel26cwm.tar, an AOSP kernel, a stock ICS kernel, and whatever ROMs I'm currently using. I also always have Mobile Odin and Root Explorer installed.
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Wow you just saved me a whole lot of time. This whole time I was under the impression you had to odin back to Gingerbread rooted, reinstall CWM before flashing another ICS rom. I never knew you just needed the el26 kernal! Thank you! Quick question though what slot do you put the kernal in the PDA?
Here's a direct link to the stock el26+cwm: http://db.tt/0QJkleJR
I believe you use PDA slot. I use Mobile Odin as I'm always at work and never near a computer. I do believe there is a free lite version on these forums somewhere or its $4.99 on Play Store, but it is a huge time saver as I flash a new ROM several times a week at least(currently addicted to HyDrA).
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thanks kill, i was odin OC back to EL29 before each flash, i will adopt your method going forward, i should have realized this a long time ago...
No problem. Just trying to save you some time/effort. One more thing though since I don't think it was ever mentioned. You should always verify the md5 checksum before flashing anything. There are free apps on the Play store to check with and most developers post a checksum by there downloads.
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I rooted my phone yesterday using the toolkit from the development forums. I created a backup of my stock ROM before I flashed anything new but apparently I messed that up b.c trying to restore that, the toolkit told me I have no restore files. Anyway I flashed the unofficial cm10 build and I am having some radio issues, so I wanted to go back to stock until a more official build comes out. I have tried doing that through the toolkit a few times but it continues to fail.
Looking around online I found the stock ROM from Google and dl'd it (mysid-imm76k-factory-98d21321.tar is the file) I am pretty noobish when it comes to flashing stuff and i have never seen a .tar but I found that Odin can flash .tar. so my plan was to get the odin app flash that file and hope I did everything okay.
A couple questions: is this going to work okay? Do I need to flash kernels or radios or anything else or is this a complete return to stock? Will this keep me rooted and unlocked?
you dont need ODIN.
use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
Zepius said:
you dont need ODIN.
use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
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Thank you. Don't know why I couldn't find that.
Any chance you could explain what odin is/.tar files are? And how they are different?
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Thank you. Don't know why I couldn't find that.
Any chance you could explain what odin is/.tar files are? And how they are different?
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ODIN is a firmware restore program for all samsung phones.
here's a decent webpage on what ODIN is/does
http://forum.jakar.co/android-hack/1341254634/