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Nexus.... expecting too much?

Maybe, I was expecting too much... with the galaxy nexus, coming from a Galaxy S2.
At times i feel that the S2 is much quicker and just as smooth..
Is it me or have other users noticed this as well?
Don't get me wrong it is fast and all, maybe for someone coming from a slower device..
But coming from the S2 which is still a great great phone, it doesn't seem faster but a times slower loading apps

habs101 said:
Maybe, I was expecting too much... with the galaxy nexus, coming from a Galaxy S2.
At times i feel that the S2 is much quicker and just as smooth..
Is it me or have other users noticed this as well?
Don't get me wrong it is fast and all, maybe for someone coming from a slower device..
But coming from the S2 which is still a great great phone, it doesn't seem faster but a times slower loading apps
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the galaxy nexus was never intended to be an upgrade from the Galaxy S2. It was supposed to be the upgrade for those that had a Nexus S.
The product upgrade cycle goes
Nexus S -> Galaxy Nexus-> next nexus
Galaxy S -> Galaxy S2 -> Galaxy S3

So habs I'm kinda stuck here and maybe you can tell me I can return my s2 and exchange it for the nexus. I want to know do you miss your s2 or are you happier with the nexus, and is the screen on the nexus worth the upgrade ?
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I only played with one for about 10 minutes, but it felt about the same. I've used the GS2 for the past few months and love it, but the Nexus feels the same, just with improvements because of ICS and less running in the background (TouchWiz and Samsung apps...yuck).
All the apps I opened and played with acted just about the same.

I concur, the Gnex definitely feels like it has a laggy UI in comparison to the SGS2 and even the SGS1!
The twitter app shows this easily. Putting certain live wallpapers on also shows this.
I hope it's resolved via software soon because other than the SGS2 having a noticeable performance advantage, everything about ICS is awesome.

IMO, the only pro of getting Nexus is the LED notification and a guaranteed swift OS update

mvpeterson said:
I concur, the Gnex definitely feels like it has a laggy UI in comparison to the SGS2 and even the SGS1!
The twitter app shows this easily. Putting certain live wallpapers on also shows this.
I hope it's resolved via software soon because other than the SGS2 having a noticeable performance advantage, everything about ICS is awesome.
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Take this for what you will. But with ICS on nexus s people said the twitter app kicked ass after they forced hardware acceleration on. But unfortunately that can mess up other apps.
So maybe if twitter app was ICS ready w/ hardware acceleration it wouldn't lag.
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The SGS 2 to the Galaxy Nexus is more of a sidegrade..
The Nexus has a better screen, is more comfortable in the hand (imo), has no carrier or manufacturer crap on it and will get Android upgrades before anything else will.
I've had both but I prefer the Nexus overall, even though the GPU in the SGS 2 is a beast.

Gs2 is another great device. Plain and simple. Can't go wrong with either one. With that said, I don't think ICS will run as smooth as it does on the GN...on any other device. Official or developer made.
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The laggy Twitter app is due to the Twitter dev team. Use another Twitter app. (TweetDeck, Twicca are my favorites.)

nxdu said:
IMO, the only pro of getting Nexus is the LED notification and a guaranteed swift OS update
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The LED is big, ugly and rarely works correctly.

habs101 said:
Maybe, I was expecting too much... with the galaxy nexus, coming from a Galaxy S2.
At times i feel that the S2 is much quicker and just as smooth..
Is it me or have other users noticed this as well?
Don't get me wrong it is fast and all, maybe for someone coming from a slower device..
But coming from the S2 which is still a great great phone, it doesn't seem faster but a times slower loading apps
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Were you expecting too much? Definitely. The GS2 is already blazing fast, so how much faster did you think the GN could possibly be considering it's specs and HD screen??? Think about it logically.

Luxferro said:
Take this for what you will. But with ICS on nexus s people said the twitter app kicked ass after they forced hardware acceleration on. But unfortunately that can mess up other apps.
So maybe if twitter app was ICS ready w/ hardware acceleration it wouldn't lag.
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This is true. The question is, why does it run smoothly on the SG II without hardware acceleration? :S

Isn't the web browser and TW launcher (on the SGS2) hardware accelerated (something Samsung implemented themselves)?

randypurcz said:
The LED is big, ugly and rarely works correctly.
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I love that it's big. That way you can actually see the notification (hint hint HTC Sensation). Ugly I guess is a matter of preference, but it terms of working correctly, just get lightflow. It works perfectly with the GN and you can customize it however you want.

[Q] Showing phone off and...

We were comparing my SGN to my friends 2 year old windows phone. He was interested in browser speed and performance so I showed him, then he showed me his, then I got sad. I can hear the jokes starting, lol...
His windows browser was silky smooth, zooming in and out, and even the rotating was great. I read somewhere that Google did that rotaing delay so it won't accidentally rotate while in your pants or something like that. Well I don't want that, I would like that option. And I know for a fact it can rotate instantly and fluently. I say this because if you open stock camera, and rotate it around, the small indicators and gallery preview rotate flawlessly and silky smooth. Is it the ram? Why would a 2 year old device out perform a 1.2 processor these days in browser performance? I'm a little bummed.
And let me not mention that multi task soft button... And info would much be appreciated, thanks...

I guess we would need to know what model of windows mobile phone your friend had to start off.
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spencer88 said:
I guess we would need to know what model of windows mobile phone your friend had to start off.
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Windows Trophy, and I think it released this summer... ?

What's wrong with the multitask soft key? I think it's pretty awesome.
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Ask him if he wants to trade. I can have a guess as to who is getting the better deal
Also, if its an HTC Trophy, it was released May 2011. Hardly a 2-year old phone as you described in OP
I mostly have 2 things to say: 1) By most accounts the SGN has one of the fastest browsers of any mobile device (benchmark wise) and 2) You'd be pleasantly surprised how well WP7 performs on a single core 1ghz processor.
People really need to kick the stigma on WP7. Its not a POS platform. You shouldn't be surprised that it performs like it should.

It has to do with how each OS handles UI rendering and what gets loaded. Go to a site that requires flash and you'll start seeing limitations in WP
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xHausx said:
It has to do with how each OS handles UI rendering and what gets loaded. Go to a site that requires flash and you'll start seeing limitations in WP
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I see your point but thats not the best comparison. Specifically choosing a site that only will load fully on one of the devices doesn't prove that device is better.
Loading a page that both devices can render fully and seeing which one does better (in benchmarks and look/feel) is the best head to head comparison.

rabaker07 said:
What's wrong with the multitask soft key? I think it's pretty awesome.
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It's one of my fave new features, just laggy... But I am running stock. It did release May, still half the ram... But he was amazed by the speedy UI stock and, of course, the screen...

WP 7 is just a faster UI and is more efficient than android in a lot of ways.
Also consider that his phone isn't pushing as many pixels as yours.
Microsoft has really focused on UI speed and touch response in WP 7, and it's pretty obvious when using one of those devices.
Even with ICS, android just doesn't match WP7 in terms of touch response and UI fluidity.
Nothing wrong with your device or his device. They're both great devices for different reasons.
4.03 helps quite a bit with the multi-tasking button lag, though.. so you'll see that improve when you get that update in the next few weeks.

Its been known that Microsoft went all out with windows phone and made the smoothest UI of all time and did extremely low level drivers with qualcom to get such performance out of the snapdragon chip set. Its the most fluid smooth UI I've ever seen. I'm just glad ice cream sandwich moved in that direction finally.

Andrmgic said:
WP 7 is just a faster UI and is more efficient than android in a lot of ways.
Also consider that his phone isn't pushing as many pixels as yours.
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I thought ICS was supposed to have hardware acceleration so the graphics don't burden the CPU ? So, if anything, the nexus should have an advantage over the Windows phone.
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RogerPodacter said:
Its been known that Microsoft went all out with windows phone and made the smoothest UI of all time and did extremely low level drivers with qualcom to get such performance out of the snapdragon chip set. Its the most fluid smooth UI I've ever seen. I'm just glad ice cream sandwich moved in that direction finally.
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Well the Windows phones are all single core as well. I would doubt that ICS will ever compete on a single core. Even the hardware on the nexus struggles to run it. I guess in a month or so when the quads and higher clocking phones come out with ICS, we will get to see how they compare. Thats why I ditched my GN's. I just don't think the hardware is enough for ICS. I went back my trusty Atrix 2, slapped an ICS theme on it, and it does everything better than the nexus.

It's really not a fair comparison, looking at one particular aspect. WP7 has only one resolution, much lower than the GNex. All the graphics are simpler, and it can't run all the things in the background.
It's like comparing a hot air balloon to a helicopter, based on how smooth they are.
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T-Keith said:
It's really not a fair comparison, looking at one particular aspect. WP7 has only one resolution, much lower than the GNex. All the graphics are simpler, and it can't run all the things in the background.
It's like comparing a hot air balloon to a helicopter, based on how smooth they are.
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Agree about the simplererer graphics. I am loving the metro theme they uave going. Simple, yet elegant. But nothing beats Android as far as customization and personalization goes...
I tell everyone if two people were to drop their ihones, and I were to pick them up I wouldn't be able to differentiate one by the other because they all look the same, maybe except for the background but you can't even tell since all those static icons are in the way I have no idea where I am going with this so yea....
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I'm still skeptical about the Metro UI. It has a bit too much text for my taste. What happened to the "a picture is worth a thousand words"? The UI is very beautiful though

Favorite Nexus / ICS feature

I tried searching for something like this but search in app on 4.0 isn't .. working?
Anyway, what is your favorite thing on your new phone? Mine is the camera ... I know people complain about it but its a good camera and the speed and features of piano and time lapse and filters makes this a joy to use.
The other thing is built in screenshots. Holy awesome.
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i liked the "disable" feature you could do stock. other then that the screen size is cool.
btw if you like this camera, check out the rezound's. the rezound also has built in screenshots.

voxigenboy said:
i liked the "disable" feature you could do stock. other then that the screen size is cool.
btw if you like this camera, check out the rezound's. the rezound also has built in screenshots.
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Had the Rezound. Battery life combined with sense was too much. I returned it the 12th and waited for the nexus. Camera quality is better on the Rezound, but I enjoy using the Nexus' better
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blocatan said:
I tried searching for something like this but search in app on 4.0 isn't .. working?
Anyway, what is your favorite thing on your new phone? Mine is the camera ... I know people complain about it but its a good camera and the speed and features of piano and time lapse and filters makes this a joy to use.
The other thing is built in screenshots. Holy awesome.
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I think we need to be more imaginative here guys. My sgs2 had a better camera and also had screen shots! Let's think of UNIQUE ICS features. Like Face Unlock ...

I like the way it looks - feels sleek and futuristic (phone and ICS both). Previous builds were ugly and looked outdated.
As far as features, I like the potential of on screen keys as well as how it looks. I abhor the non Nexus buttons on all other android phones.

Personally I love the ability to put funny backgrounds in video chat via talk It's hilarious As far as I'm concerned this feature is SGN specific

The screen and the lack of TouchWiz and Verizon bloat...
Has anyone seen John Connor?

k_myk said:
Personally I love the ability to put funny backgrounds in video chat via talk It's hilarious As far as I'm concerned this feature is SGN specific
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Yea, I noticed that too. It is not present on my previous Nexus S with 4.0.3. So is it indeed GN specific ?

Just ICS in general.
Love the multitasking and the new way to add widgets

NFC. Google Wallet it cool
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Slimness of the phone and overall physical device.

The on screen buttons. They give the phone a much sleeker look whilst also minimizing the size of the phone. I also like how the buttons can disappear to give a bigger screen when needed.
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Love the video effect and the multitask on ICS
Showed my sister the phone and we compared the browsing speed with her Iphone4S.
Galaxy nexus won every single time and she couldn't believe at all - still in denial state.
Must admit her iphone 4s camera is better though. Haha

I enjoy the hardware its self, its sleek and sexy! I also like the curved screen
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If I have to pick a single thing then it's the zero shutter delay for the camera. Really love ICS features in general though.
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The Answer Call screen where I can choose to send preconfigured text messages as reply. GOD BLESS! Uses it several times each day during working hours.

Hardware acceleration.
The recent apps implementation with WebOS-like cards is nice too.

The ability to swipe away recent apps and notifications to get rid of them features prominently on my list.
Resizeable widgets are also nice, and are unique to ICS on phones at least.
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Zero (almost) delay shutter speed on the camera is a welcome change coming from my DroidX. Wish the picture quality was a little better, but it's not bad. I suppose that's what the SLR is for.
Also, loving Google wallet. So far today, Google has bought me; a cup of coffee, a bag of lettuce and a can of folgers... all for installing the wallet app. It always seems to get an amusing reaction when i use it in front of people. Enjoy the novelty before others start jumping on the bandwagon.

ICS Scrolling ??!!

hello
i tried Galaxy S2 and it's so fast and doesn't lose fps in any scrolling in any app but my sensation lose alot of fps .. Galaxy S2 have enabled HWA and GN with ICS have it too..but both of them have smooth scrolling or just SGS2??
can anyone confirm this ??
sorry for my bad english

Gnex is very fast.
Android - making grown men pee sitting down since 2.0

Goat_For_Sale said:
Gnex is very fast.
Android - making grown men pee sitting down since 2.0
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I still think Galaxy S 2 is the smoothest Android phone out there and it's running Gingerbread. Wait until it gets ICS.
I'm kinda disappointed by Galaxy Nexus.

Scrolling with the S2 feels weird though. The scrolling animation is smooth, ill hand it that, but its as if its slightly behind the movement of my finger. Dont have that problem with the GN, which is also very smooth in every native app. Apps not yet optimized for ICS seem to be laggy from time to time, but its app depended imo.
Overall I prefer the GN.

retskrad said:
I still think Galaxy S 2 is the smoothest Android phone out there and it's running Gingerbread. Wait until it gets ICS.
I'm kinda disappointed by Galaxy Nexus.
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Nah, I feel the Galaxy Nexus is smoother.
And ICS smoothness is overrated, it doesn't magically make the phone smoother at all, at best you won't notice any difference, but I imagine the phone being bogged down by a Touchwiz/ICS combo.

Enable force GPU to make apps smoother.
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Isn't 4.0.3 meant to increase performance and fix the scrolling issues?
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kangxi said:
Enable force GPU to make apps smoother.
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Not necessarily.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s

Simmo3D said:
Isn't 4.0.3 meant to increase performance and fix the scrolling issues?
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I didn't see any scrolling issues in 4.0.1 or 4.0.2.

if anyone have WhatsApp and have alot of messages in one chat..can he record a video and uploaded to i see how scrolling smooth is GN+ICS
sorry for my bad english

There is definite lag. I can't use live wallpapers on the Nexus because of the slowdown. Quite annoying, but oh well.

Or maybe the app isn't optimized for ICS yet as the OS / device is relatively new?
Google can't control what app devs do.

ericc191 said:
There is definite lag. I can't use live wallpapers on the Nexus because of the slowdown. Quite annoying, but oh well.
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Live walls at 720p....
Same problem on Rezound as well. By the way, aosp walls work a hell of a lot better than the retail ones. Lag is pretty much gone if the live wall does not scroll with launcher screen.

(Let me preface this with a pre-emptive statment that I love Android (had a GTab, currently have a TF. And I am not a "this phone rules, that phone sucks" kind of guy, these are simply my DISPASSIONATE--albeit subjective--observations.)
Call it minor or whatever, but I have to admit, the lag is one of the big reasons keeping me from getting the phone. I've tried them out in stores, all running 4.02, closed all programs, used static wallpaper, etc., and the screens lag. And almost every online video I've seen seems the same way.
Obviously it's not like the 1st generation Android phones (which truly had horrible lag), but still, I think it's kind of unacceptable in this day and age and on a $300 phone. The GS2 is noticeably smoother -- instantaneous, really. Smoother than any phone I've ever used, iPhone included.
I want to love this phone so much -- great screen, ergonomics, and, obviously immediate updates and dev support, but I'm having a hard time getting over the somewhat laggy response.
I had a GTab which, if you're familiar with them, positively sucked out of the box, but the ROMs were awesome and made it super smooth... Maybe the ROMs and/or updates will do the same for the GN.
Anyway, please re-read my first statement before you say, "well, then just get the GS2," or somesuch. Like I said, I'm not dissing the phone in any major way -- but I need to love this phone if I'm dropping $300...

I've gotten it very smooth with Cyanogenmod and Franco's kernel (smoothest by far). But I too feel the S2 is smoother. Wish they used the Exynos lol well when the S3 comes out I'll just sell this and buy that retail. Hopefully it comes to Verizon.
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Omap can hold its own vs. Exynos. What you meant was the mali gpu.

Today I went into Verizon (got T-Mobile) but wanted to play with one and compare it to my ns, and the demo I played with was a bit stuttery ,I even wiped the phone in the store ,and was still stuttery/laggy my ns runs way smoother compared to the one I played with,I'm really hoping it was just that particular phone,cause if T-Mobile ever offers it subsidized I plan on getting it,but not if it runs like the demo I messed with today...bottom line I left Verizon today a bit disappointed...
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Raver27 said:
Today I went into Verizon (got T-Mobile) but wanted to play with one and compare it to my ns, and the demo I played with was a bit stuttery ,I even wiped the phone in the store ,and was still stuttery/laggy my ns runs way smoother compared to the one I played with,I'm really hoping it was just that particular phone,cause if T-Mobile ever offers it subsidized I plan on getting it,but not if it runs like the demo I messed with today...bottom line I left Verizon today a bit disappointed...
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Demo units aren't really a true representation of what the phone will feel like when you actually unbox it. It was being used by a bunch of other people who could of even installed apps of it. I have a NS and I can say the GN is just so much faster on ICS.

adrynalyne said:
Not necessarily.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
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That has nothing to do with what I said. I have noticed that most apps run a lot smoother when I have force GPU acceleration on. Including Facebook, Groupon, Twitter, Netflix, etc.
This is what the OP was talking about and I offered a solution.
Also, 4.0.3 is a lot smoother than 4.0.2.
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I reset it in the store,but I hope ur right cause I really want one...
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Motorola UI on Galaxy Nexus

After seeing the Atrix HD I loved the UI, was wondering if it could get ported over
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If you mean the home screen, then yes. There's a thread in the defy forums already. But if you're talking about the whole thing (SMS, dialer, camera UI etc), then no. You need the Motoblur framework.
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i think people have tried porting motoblur or whatever its called now lol, but the projects like that usually end up being forgotten or impossible ( probably not impossible just very difficult ). Some people will also probably come here and reply to you and be like oh its a nexus why would you ruin aosp lol, well to those people some of us like choices, anyways you can get a good cm10 moto theme in the theme section by a guy named vicino i think his themes are really good, and you could probably get the launcher like the guy above me said but the ui is a no go right now. Just remember tho this is a nexus and it gets a lot of development.
HERES THE THEME http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829784

Anything moto is difficult to the nature of the phones odd resolutions which don't work well on most devices. I suppose it should work on our device?
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I hated blur. There is no way I would even think about putting that on my gnex. The gnex is a pure google experience, don't screw it up with a moto ui. Find a nice theme instead!

mssam said:
I hated blur. There is no way I would even think about putting that on my gnex. The gnex is a pure google experience, don't screw it up with a moto ui. Find a nice theme instead!
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The new ICS blur isn't bad actually. IMO, it looks better than Touchwiz and Sense. But, that may just be me...
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tatperson said:
The new ICS blur isn't bad actually. IMO, it looks better than Touchwiz and Sense. But, that may just be me...
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It's by far the "best" skin in my opinion so I share the same opinion. I've even contemplated picking up an unbranded Atrix HD as a spare phone. I'll do so even faster if Motorola gets a Jelllybean update out there within the next month or so.
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