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[Q] GNex or wait for GS3?

I'm on AT&T and wanting a new phone. The GNex is rumored to drop for AT&T any day now with Sprint getting it on 4/22. I've been planning on making that my next phone for a while now, was just waiting for AT&T get it. Then I started hearing these rumors about the GS3 being out as soon as the end of April, latest being end of May. Don't know how much weight that holds, but if it were true, should I wait it out and go for the GS3? Or just go with the GNex when it comes out?

S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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ALIHISGREAT said:
S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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not only at least june before it hits stores but at least june before it hits stores in the UK america is seriously lacking when it comes to new Galaxy devices the GS2 was what.. like 6 months old when it finally launched in america? Not to mention we got the **** end of the stick with a phone that had a completely different chipset..

Wait the announcement of the s3 and see if the s3 is better than the nexus and if you can wait, wait !
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Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?

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Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?
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I'll be waiting till may 5th if its not day one in america or shortly there after I will be buying Gnex for sprint. Also the original S2 had exynos processor but the american version didn't =[

Yeah, I guess that's my plan, too. Wait for the launch and see what it actually releases as and then make the decision.

The Galaxy Nexus is OFFICIALLY for sale on Google Play either thru the app or online for GSM customers, i.e. Tmo and ATT The 16gb version. No biggie
I was excited and still like the phone, although from Day one when I got my Tmo Galaxy S2 (which I love) some bloggers, I forget said that the hardware on the GS2 I have is better than the Nexus
Prolly true so I have to decide do I want pure Google NOW and also ICS NOW OR Wait for ICS to come to the GS2 I have OR wait for the next GS3?
Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??

eric0668 said:
Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??
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It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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lazaro17 said:
It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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Probably less. But if you are anal or want it perfect, yes.
In any case, longer than it took you to make that donkey of a comment.
I know many a senior member here who would not post that
And from one member to another, and one human to another, if you dont have anything positive to ad, dont say it
You need to either lookup or learn to incorporate paradigm into life and your help here. How do you know one isn't on disability, maybe can't create an ad that quickly maybe due to physical ailments, or psych ones like add or simply can't concentrate. Like me
But I wont say all that. I will just ignore my thoughts, you do also, and let me thank you for your help!!!

Didn't mean any offense by that man...I was just legit asking out of concern. Lighten up a bit...
Anyway if you're trying to decide between a sgii or a galaxy nexus. Everyone here is going to tell you to go nexus route mostly because of the great developer support it carries and the priority it gets when it comes to google updates.
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So iyho, if it is no problem to sell the GS2 I already have to get the newly available GSM from Google, then go ahead and do it even if the newest Galaxy will be out 3-6 months from now. (keeping in mind that I don't mind getting a new phone soon after) In other words, the perks of pure google and ICS are worth it--better sooner than later.
Thanks again

Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.

Sleeping Giant said:
Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.
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I haven't personally used one yet, but the general reviews all say the same thing: fantastic looking, powerful phone. Unfortunately battery life is mediocre and Sense 4.0 is a little wonky.
Personally I'd grab a GNexus or wait for the next Galaxy phone. The Nexus is plenty powerful, VERY simple to mod, and you can expand the battery with almost zero additional size to the phone.
Lately Samsung hardware is the hardware to beat. They're on a serious roll with their mobile devices.
May is only several days away. I'd wait for the Galaxy announcement and release date. You can make your mind up then. I just think it would be silly to buy a One X or a GNexus before seeing what is happening with the GSIII. Waiting a month for what could be a killer phone is worth it considering how many years you'll likely be using whatever you buy.

Personally I decided to pick up a galaxy nexus last week and have been absolutely thrilled. This is my first nexus device and I can't believe how nice stock Android is. Hardware wise, it doesn't get much better than the gnex and probably won't for a while. Quad cores are cool, but do they matter? The gnex does everything and you'll never have to worry about waiting for updates to the newest version of Android. Even the nexus one which is 2 years old runs 4.0.4 without issue, whereas much newer phones like the RAZR are stuck on gingerbread. I think the hardware is good enough at this point that the software is really what limits you. Just my $0.02.
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IMO Gnex for sure or wait on the next Nexus! Nexus phones always will have better developer support due to the nature and openness of the device and ASOP. For me at least that is the deciding factor.

It depends on how much you are ready to spend. Right now, the G Nex is $440.
When the Galaxy S III comes out, it will be about 700$. You will have to wait a while for the price to come down, and by then we'll have the next Nexus device.
Moreover, having the G Nex means you will have the next Android version sooner than Galaxy S III.
But if raw hardware power is what you are looking for and money isn't much of a concern, Galaxy S III is the device for you.

The gnex is actually now $400 straight from Google For what you're getting, I think that's a steal.
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Sounds like the S3 is going to be pretty BA.

GNex is at the top of my list. I still want to wait and see what the GS3 has to offer, though.

What makes you NOT want to upgrade/purchase an SIII over a Galaxy Nexus?

There seems to be widespread disappointment in the SIII, but I don't fully understand why. The specs aren't jaw dropping, but they aren't much less than I expected. Other than the very valid "it's not Nexus" and "touchwiz" comments, why would you not upgrade/get a GNexus rather than an SIII? I just ask because I had purchased a GNex but took it back to wait out and see the SIII. However, despite the specs being upgrade over the GNex, people don't see to think it's all that great. Is development worse on the SGS phones?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

It's ugly a#$ design..

An even better question could be. Why would you want a gnex over the now coming out to sprint htc evo 4g lte? It's very easily unlocked and easy to root.
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It looks, well, bad. Touchwiz deserves to be mentioned again. Most of the upgrades are software specific. It will probably cost an arm and a leg. No quad core in America. To name a few.
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Samsung decided to go back to physical buttons, virtual buttons on the galaxy nexus are so slick, to make things worse they brought back the menu button, which Google has been trying to kill, and I couldn't agree more. Plus 4.8" + the space required for physical buttons seems overkill.
The screen is pentile (Again !)
The nexus looks much better with its matte look, the sgs III looks very cheap with all that glosyness :/
The only thing I like about sg III is the 2000 mah battery and the fact that they got rid of the bump on the back found on all galaxy s phones
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Touchwiz need to be mentioned again and again!
also no softkeys
and the fact that theres gonna be a new nexus in the future
thats it

I'd rather wait foe the next nexus or buy a one x when it reaches 500 $ and when it has stable CM9
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Another thread??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
Also,
1. I will have updates faster than it will. Yes, I consider AOSP a source of updates.
2. Its fuuugly. What would the ladies say if I walked around with that?

Unless battery life was battery life was significantly better (which it won't be), I wouldn't upgrade. Most things are the same, except for CPU/GPU, Camera sensors and such, internal memory, and TW. Unless someone with an SGS3 came to the Marketplace asking for someone to switch with him for a GNex+some cash?
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Did I mention, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

There's 2 components to any phone, hardware & software. The GNex will always trump other devices in the software portion, and the hardware of the SGS3 is not a substantial upgrade to warrant further thought in changing devices. In my opinion, the most important aspect of a smart phone will always be the software. Without great cutting edge software, the hardware isn't worth ****. Its the software that makes a device a pleasure to use. It let's the user operate their phone with ease, allowing unparalleled customization while not sacrificing the devices utility. Its what we XDA members love about android. With the GNex, that ability is amplified giving the very best android expedience.......In addition, there is really nothing the SGS3 can do that my GNex can't. Only my GNex does it with style.
Development for any device that's not a Nexus will be less. The Nexus devices are built with development in mind, where other devices are built for the average consumer.
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Pretty compelling arguments. So in that case..would it be worth it to sign a long term contract on a Nexus or should we expect the next Nexus by years end?

chrstphrbrnnn said:
Pretty compelling arguments. So in that case..would it be worth it to sign a long term contract on a Nexus or should we expect the next Nexus by years end?
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The next Nexus will probably be released just like in the Q4 of this year with carriers in the states getting it a few months later, at the latest next year. I would buy this phone for cheap considering it'll get Jellybean and its still a flawless and competitive phone. I'm personally looking to keep mine until late 2013.
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theres a thread for this
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It would depend on which carrier you want to use. I say that because I am not convinced the next Nexus will be available on CDMA carriers again. If you plan on going to a GSM carrier, try not to sign a contract with the current GNex. $400 retail is an absolute steal. If you don't mind waiting 8 months and would go GSM, then wait.
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Please discuss all new devices that are not the Galaxy nexus here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
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Galaxy Nexus Vs. Galaxy S III

I have gone through nine rezouds and probably thus have ample leverage for a different phone. I'm honestly fed up with it at this point. (No none of them were fraud they were legitimately flawed) anyway since you all own one of the devices I figured you could help me make an informed decision. Don't be too biased lol.
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if you have the ability to take one or the other, I'd definitely pick the S3.. I played around with a store model for 20 minutes and already loved it so much that I signed a new contract on the spot (my old one with the nexus was near the end of it's life so it was free for me to change). Honestly the S3 is so quick it's not funny and the camera is absolutely amazing.

You come to the Nexus forum to ask which phone you should get?
ha, you've already made your decision.
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SocialReject said:
You come to the Nexus forum to ask which phone you should get?
ha, you've already made your decision.
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Not necessarily. I figured I would ask one group who ones one of the phones their opinion. Since the S3 hasn't been released in the US yet I figured I would ask you all. I doubt I can really make a bad decision here.

So im guessing for Verizon? If so i would go with the S3 its newer its a bit bigger and the camera is a phenomenal. You can't go wrong with either but with the nexus you get software superiority but with the S3 you get the hardware superiority.
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ÜBER™ said:
with the nexus you get software superiority but with the S3 you get the hardware superiority.
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What's the use of the hardware superiority when there is no good software to run it
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What's the use of the hardware superiority when there is no good software to run it
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Eh the S3 software isn't bad coming from an OG epic I didn't like old touchwiz. But the new TW is quite appealing although waiting for Jelly Bean would keep me away from it as I pay so much for it I expect it to run the latest version of android. But development for it should be sufficient.
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Which SIII: North American (dual-core) or International (quad-core)? Sick hardware either way... and throw Apex Launcher on if you hate TouchWiz and don't want to root; it rocks on my girlfriend's SII, so I can only imagine on the SIII. I honestly prefer the way my Nexus looks and the stock experience though.

Honestly the S3 does not blow me away like it does for others. I think most of the hype about it is the same as any new phone from month to month. I think the S3 has some great qualities unique to itself as does the Nexus. However, most features can be duplicated with equal performance on the Nexus. Its like going to college. I could have learned the same things for about $20 in late fees at the library. But I would not be able to brag that I have a degree. So if you want the latest and greatest (for the moment) go for the S3. If you prefer a Nexus experience then get a Nexus. Either way you cant go wrong in my opinion.

I have gone through nine rezouds
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What did you do to them?

For the same price, I'd say SGS3. The only reason I wouldn't get a SGS3 is because there's not a vast improvement that is worth getting a new phone. But if I had say, a One S, I'd choose the SGS3, the one with the dual A15s instead of 4 A9s.
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I was very skeptical which was why I went for the Note first, but the Nexus is really the best smartphone I've ever used. If you care about customization then this is the device to go with, but if you don't mind using the interface that manufacturer/carriers give you, then go with the SIII. I just love how open the Nexus is, so easy to root and customize. If you have not use lots of custom roms before, this device seems very bare and light, but that is the advantage.
I bought the Nexus immediately after the SIII was announced because I didn't felt it was a major upgrade and the Nexus was going for $300 less. The most intensive thing I'll be doing is watch HD 1080p and the Nexus does it smoother than the Note. I feel buying the SIII would be a step backward to the freedom the Nexus provided. It's not pentaband, so I would have to wait for T-Mobile version to use their 3G. My family uses ATT so I can always hand the Nexus to them and not have to worry about 3G compatibilities. Though I heard T-Mobile SIII will support ATT 3G bands. In addition, the American version will be using proprietary Qualcomm CPU and GPU, I would have to wait longer for CM9 and AOKP roms and who knows if the development will be good as international version, which Samsung already released the source code for.
There is a major flaw with Nexus which is lacking microSD slot. Also the SIII use the same Sony camera sensor as iPhone 4S so it will take better photos and have fast shutter like the Nexus.
I'm keeping my eyes on the SIII, but I want to wait till there are lots of stable roms for the T-Mobile version and if the price go down enough by end of year holidays. Right now I rather wait for the next Nexus phone. It seems like a good phone, but isn't ground breaking like the SII was, especially in term of durability like some youtube drop test has shown.

Go Nexus or wait.
Pocketnow.com has a great overview of the GSIII that points out some niggles with how Samsung changed ICS over what you get on the Nexus. Button and menu placement. Terrible keyboard and how the phone is very slippery in hand.
I have a Nexus and Razor Maxx and would not trade either for the SIII.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

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Is the GNEXUS worht buying if you have a GS2

Hi im thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus after having SGS2 and then htc one x (wich i sold due to a lot hardware problems) i dont know what to get and i think the galaxy nexus would be a decent phone but im woried is it better than the SGS2 if not than this phone is not for me because i got tiered of S2 another question is how is gaming and watching hd mkv movies on this phone?And what do you say should i get it (p.s i hate the SGS3's design and i dont want to spend that much money for what i think is not a big upgrade just a quad core and better screen)

Hardware specs wise, sgs2 is slightly better
Galaxy nexus for more developer support, pure Google experience w/o bloatware, faster OS updates
Personally I prefer the nexus
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my sister has gs2 and i've the gnexus..
the differents are little but important, first of all the different resolutions and the different time to update.. i have ics since a week before christmas 2011 and my sister installed it 2 weeks ago, and now i've jelly bean xD
if you find to sell your gs2 at a nice € and you find the gnexus in a nice discount you can do it

think its a overall good phone how is the gaming on this phone like N.O.V.A 3 or Modern combar 3 and watching mkv movies

Please refer to the comparisons post in the general section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

before responding, I did check the comparison thread, didn't see much on the S2 V nexus directly, TONS of S3.... and I'll bring up some other considerations that aren't really "phone" specific for the OP to think about ....
To the OP, it is hard to answer your question, you ask "is it worth it .....", but, we don't know what YOUR definition of "worth it" is.
You can go to other threads, gsmarena, etc., and see the phone spec differences.
Just a couple things that might be a little subtle from just looking at the specs .....
The S2 has faster HPSA, 42 MBS theoretical VS 21 on the Gnexus. Most PHONES can't take advantage of that speed by themselves (or users don't). It makes a difference for me, as I hotspot and run a computer off of my tmobile connection. You do need to be in a tmo 42 mbs area for this to be useful, however, so, if you're not, this feature might not be "worth it" for you.
PENTABAND? What provider do you use, are you looking to do contracts? Straight Talk (att and tmobile) and tmobile itself, offer great pay per month contracts (plenty of posts on the ST $45 unlimited everything plans). The S2 is faster ON TMOBILE, but, while it can run on ATT for voice, data is very slow. The nexus is fast on both ATT and Tmobile.
Pentaband is a good feature if you are looking to switch between att and tmo (maybe one gets better reception when you're at school, the other when you're at home ?).
A THOUGHT HERE is the ATT S2 SKYROCKET, apparently, it runs ATT fast natively, AND, can be flashed to the Tmo version (Tmo S2 doesn't have the same radio, so doesn't work the other way)
As others have mentioned, more developer support for the GN, less for the S2, but, ... the S2 has lots of good roms too.
SD CARD - is "WORTH" it to me. I am in hotels a lot, have a large collection of blu ray DVDs I've converted using DVD Catalyst, and have many on micro SD cards ... and I can use my phone as a movie player if the hotel (or if I go to a friends house) TV has HDMI.
The built in memory on the GN is not so small that its a big hinderance, I can still fit a movie or two and hundreds of hours of songs, so, long as you plan you're fine ... removeable SD allows you to bring your entire song collection and dozens of movies.
That's useful for me, might not be "worth it" for you.
Both are great phones, FOR ME, the Nexus is much more versitile if you're looking to maximize pay as you go plans and carrier useage, the S2 if you are looking for pure data speed and SD is a little stronger.
There are other features of the phones that might be "worth it" to you, those are the big ones I've been thinking / testing.
Good luck with your choice!

I already have the s2 so im going to think about it one more time for me it seems like a god mid upper range phone altough the htc one s also looks tempting

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Didn't read this forum before posting, but YES it is worth it. ESPECIALLY with JellyBean ready for action.

Yes and No
Yes and no. From a community standpoint, yes. The Galaxy Nexus is THE developers phone. However, it is likely that Google will announce their next Nexus phone in November - December. This phone will not only give the pure android experience, but also outweigh the Galaxy Nexus in terms of specs. I think the Galaxy Nexus has a good 6 - 8 months until it becomes outdated.

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Yes and no. From a community standpoint, yes. The Galaxy Nexus is THE developers phone. However, it is likely that Google will announce their next Nexus phone in November - December. This phone will not only give the pure android experience, but also outweigh the Galaxy Nexus in terms of specs. I think the Galaxy Nexus has a good 6 - 8 months until it becomes outdated.
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Yeah I agree. I mean Google haven't really been impressive on specs. I mean the Nexus One was amazing. The Nexus S came out and still amazing.
Then the Galaxy Nexus Came out with OK specs upgrade.
To me this seems like the pass that apple takes on their iPhones.
So I EXPECT Google to make a very dramatic upgrade in Design and Specs and this time set the Standards.
Not a few standards.

What are your priorities in a phone?
If you always want the latest and greatest hardware, GS2
If you want the perfect blend of latest tech & reliability without having to install a custom ROM, Gnex
I've used the GS2, sometimes it acts up, but it's mostly a good phone. The gnex, it's very reliable.
The GS2... It wasn't until this year that Skype officially supported video chat on the GS2. Stuff like that just turns me off from the GS2 & GS3. They always need 6 months from release to actually mature past their older brothers.

Like everyone else is mentioning, the Galaxy Nexus is a great device if you plan on fully utilizing the "Nexus" part of the name.

I'm sticking with the Galaxy Nexus and here is why:

I know everybody is excited about the Nexus 4 and I'd definitely buy it if I didn't already have a phone, but I'll be sticking with my Galaxy Nexus until at least next year. Why?
1) The Nexus 4 price is enticing, but this is also a precedent set by Google to do this with all of their Nexus phones from now on. I don't feel like I'm missing out on a one time deal. I fully expect Google to roll out another model for the same or similar price next year.
2) I bought my Galaxy Nexus at $349 months ago. I have no buyers remorse at all.
3) The processor/ram on the Galaxy Nexus is sufficient for my needs. I don't play any games so I don't feel the need for more speed.
4) The Nexus 4 is coming out with Android 4.2. I'd rather buy a handset that comes with Android 5.0 since it would have whatever hardware features that debut along with Android 5.0's featureset and that is likely coming by this time next year.
5) I'm not too keen on having a phone with a glass back. Reminds me of looking at the iPhone 4 and dreading how it might break. I'd rather just avoid any issues Nexus 4 users may have with a glass back.
6) Motorola Mobility was bought by Google and it will take months before we start seeing the results of that, just in time for the next Nexus. Motorola's radios + Motorola build quality + Google user-focused design + stock Android = a perfect and likely device for 2013.
7) People are crying their eyes out about the Nexus 4 not having LTE, and while I don't care about LTE myself right now since its not even a standard nationwide much less worldwide, I'd say that in a years time, carriers will be further along with deploying and standardizing LTE and manufacturers will have cheaper, more standard hardware out thus it will be a lot more likely for Google to roll out their LTE-standard Nexus phone in 2013, just in time for my next phone purchase.
8) I don't think quad-core phones are ready for prime-time just yet. Many of the reviews for quad-core phone indicate that they're not as beneficial over a dual-core chipset as people would think just yet. I'd like to get a quad-core chipset that is more mature, power-efficient, and powerful and the 2013 Nexus seems like a good time to expect such a thing.
9) I have my Galaxy Nexus rooted and running Minco with the latest Franco.Kernel. All of the issues with the screen and sound have been fixed with their optimizations, features, and patches. I get battery life that is good enough for me with it, and my phone just gets smoother and smoother every month using that combination. The Minco devs say they will continue to support the Galaxy Nexus for at least another year, so having my phone continue to improve with Android 4.2 and 4.3.X in the coming months will tide me over just fine.
That's my rationale and I'm sticking to it. Anybody agree? Anybody sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for other reasons?

My list is much shorter:
1.) VZW

I'm sticking with my Galaxy Nexus for the exact same reasons
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Nice points.in happy with my nexus and I'm just going to use the money to get a nexus 7 lol.
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My list is much shorter:
1.) VZW
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Time to dump that crappy company as soon as your contract runs out and go with the freedom of GSM.

I agree with this 100%. This is pretty much exactly what my reasons are.
The only things I really like in the Nexus 4 are:
- Gorilla Glass 2
- IPS panel screen
Other than that I think it's a waste of money IMO. Not to mention 8GB is ridiculous now... I laugh at that since my Droid X2 came with 8GB (and at least has an External SD). The amount of "power" their putting in this is totally unnecessary... Unless your playing a game like GTA then I doubt you'll ever even use all 4 of those cores (I don't even know what 2GB of RAM would even be used for because that ridiculous).
It's a nice toy, but definitely not something I would jump on. If I didn't have my GNex now and I were buying a new phone, then sure, I'd probably choose the Nexus 4 - but I'd definitely go with the 16GB upgrade. (Also, I bought my GNex for $50 about a week or two ago. I have no regrets at all)
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Why does everyone have issues with Verizon anyways...? I don't see anything wrong with them or see any benefit of going GSM. Anyone care to enlighten me on the subject? >.>

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The only things I really like in the Nexus 4 are:
- Gorilla Glass 2
- IPS panel screen
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Yeah, those are the only things I care about too. IPS is enticing but you gave me an idea for my 9th point.

IAreKyleW00t said:
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Why does everyone have issues with Verizon anyways...? I don't see anything wrong with them or see any benefit of going GSM. Anyone care to enlighten me on the subject? >.>
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generally you can get cheaper service with a GSM provider. there is also a higher resell market since you can use the phone on any GSM provider.

CADude said:
Time to dump that crappy company as soon as your contract runs out and go with the freedom of GSM.
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Expensive? Yes. Crappy? Definitely not. I would love to go get a $50/mo prepaid no contract GSM plan, I actually would if I could. But the fact is in my area the GSM carriers have overall poor reception, and extremely poor to no reception at my home and work. So the "freedom of gsm" to me just means my phone will never work because it doesn't have service. So until I can get actual reception and data from GSM networks, I have to refer back to my list:
1.)VZW

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generally you can get cheaper service with a GSM provider. there is also a higher resell market since you can use the phone on any GSM provider.
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I figured as much, but that seems more beneficial if you were the only user in your phone plan. I got that family plan. ;P Plus, I get great coverage where I am. I'm always connected to 4G wherever I go. I'm pretty satisfied with Verizon... they've never let me down so far. Whenever I've had an issue with a phone they take it back and give me a new one - no questions asks.
I'm sure there's probably A LOT more details about the differences between the two, but it does seem like everyone hates Verizon. xD

IAreKyleW00t said:
I figured as much, but that seems more beneficial if you were the only user in your phone plan. I got that family plan. ;P Plus, I get great coverage where I am. I'm always connected to 4G wherever I go. I'm pretty satisfied with Verizon... they've never let me down so far. Whenever I've had an issue with a phone they take it back and give me a new one - no questions asks.
I'm sure there's probably A LOT more details about the differences between the two, but it does seem like everyone hates Verizon. xD
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well.. people hate verizon cause they muck with the phones, delay updates, and generally just say "screw you phone" after 6 months
even with me having a family plan with 4 phones, it was cheaper to switch to prepaid plans. i'm currently on straight talk.

CADude said:
I know everybody is excited about the Nexus 4 and I'd definitely buy it if I didn't already have a phone, but I'll be sticking with my Galaxy Nexus until at least next year. Why?
1) The Nexus 4 price is enticing, but this is also a precedent set by Google to do this with all of their Nexus phones from now on. I don't feel like I'm missing out on a one time deal. I fully expect Google to roll out another model for the same or similar price next year.
2) I bought my Galaxy Nexus at $349 months ago. I have no buyers remorse at all.4
3) The processor/ram on the Galaxy Nexus is sufficient for my needs. I don't play any games so I don't feel the need for more speed.
4) The Nexus 4 is coming out with Android 4.2. I'd rather buy a handset that comes with Android 5.0 since it would have whatever hardware features that debut along with Android 5.0's featureset and that is likely coming by this time next year.
5) I'm not too keen on having a phone with a glass back. Reminds me of looking at the iPhone 4 and dreading how it might break. I'd rather just avoid any issues Nexus 4 users may have with a glass back.
6) Motorola Mobility was bought by Google and it will take months before we start seeing the results of that, just in time for the next Nexus. Motorola's radios + Motorola build quality + Google user-focused design + stock Android = a perfect and likely device for 2013.
7) People are crying their eyes out about the Nexus 4 not having LTE, and while I don't care about LTE myself right now since its not even a standard nationwide much less worldwide, I'd say that in a years time, carriers will be further along with deploying and standardizing LTE and manufacturers will have cheaper, more standard hardware out thus it will be a lot more likely for Google to roll out their LTE-standard Nexus phone in 2013, just in time for my next phone purchase.
8) I don't think quad-core phones are ready for prime-time just yet. Many of the reviews for quad-core phone indicate that they're not as beneficial over a dual-core chipset just yet. I'd like to get a quad-core chipset that is more mature, power-efficient, and powerful and the 2013 Nexus seems like a good time to expect such a thing.
9) I have my Galaxy Nexus rooted and running Minco with the latest Franco.Kernel. All of the issues with the screen and sound have been fixed with their optimizations, features, and patches. I get battery life that is good enough for me with it, and my phone just gets smoother and smoother every month using that combination. The Minco devs say they will continue to support the Galaxy Nexus for at least another year, so having my phone continue to improve with Android 4.2 and 4.3.X in the coming months will tide me over just fine.
That's my rationale and I'm sticking to it. Anybody agree? Anybody sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for other reasons?
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1.) Of course you can expect one every year with an attractive price now. That's just how Google rolls now.
2.) Same here (2 months ago), and no buyers remorse also. Still getting the N4 because of the attractive price and the processor murders the mediocre OMAP4460 inside the GNex..
3.) The SoC & RAM is NOT efficient for my needs in the GNex. I'm always low on RAM (below 100MB after use, w/o even playing games!). And the SoC doesn't have enough oomp. So can't wait for some S4PRO PAWAH!! lol
4.) Sounds good also, but the S4Pro will run KLP/(5.0?) just fine.
5.) The glass back is a non-issue. Most will put a slim case anyways for protection like I did with my current GNex. Plus it gave me a better grip. Since my carrier Tmo is an exclusive carrier for the N4, I can use Tmo's insurance to replace the N4 if something happens to it. Couldn't do the with my GNex
6.) Meh on Moto devices. Every one I've seen had crappy performance and crappy screens. HTC or Samsung FTW.
7.) LTE isn't a dealbreaker for me RIGHT NOW since Tmo has DC HSPA+42 which gets an average of 12-20mbps in my area (tested with my GF HTC One S). My GNex with SC HSPA+21 gets 3-7mbps average .. Tmo will have LTE Advance in 2013, and I will get the next Nexus (N5?) should have an LTE radio. So the N4 will be fine for the time being.
8.) Where do you get the the QC thats inside the N4 is not efficient? It's using 28nm+Krait core (Cortex A15 class) which is even better than pre-2012 SoC's using DC+40/45nm+Cortex A9. So the SoC inside the N4 is perfectly fine right now and is future-proofed for a good amount of time.
9.) :good:
WiredPirate said:
My list is much shorter:
1.) VZW
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LOL
IAreKyleW00t said:
I agree with this 100%. This is pretty much exactly what my reasons are.
The only things I really like in the Nexus 4 are:
- Gorilla Glass 2
- IPS panel screen
Other than that I think it's a waste of money IMO. Not to mention 8GB is ridiculous now... I laugh at that since my Droid X2 came with 8GB (and at least has an External SD). The amount of "power" their putting in this is totally unnecessary... Unless your playing a game like GTA then I doubt you'll ever even use all 4 of those cores (I don't even know what 2GB of RAM would even be used for because that ridiculous).
It's a nice toy, but definitely not something I would jump on. If I didn't have my GNex now and I were buying a new phone, then sure, I'd probably choose the Nexus 4 - but I'd definitely go with the 16GB upgrade. (Also, I bought my GNex for $50 about a week or two ago. I have no regrets at all)
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Why does everyone have issues with Verizon anyways...? I don't see anything wrong with them or see any benefit of going GSM. Anyone care to enlighten me on the subject? >.>
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Verizon has a massive network, I can't deny that, but it uses CDMA which has some negative. But other than the tech that Verizon uses, the guy above answered a few things negative about Verizon so I won't repeat it, so i'll just write negatives about CDMA.
GSM/HSPA+/LTE>>>CDMA/LTE .. CDMA is crap because:
1.) its not global
2.) No Sim cards (not sure if the CDMA/LTE versions acts the same as G/H+/LTE version where you can pop in your sim card in any compatible phone and it'll work).
And 3.) No simultaneous Talk+Data (No downloading large files/updating apps while a phone call comes in, but I believe LTE fixes that if you have it in your area).
So yea, can't wait for CDMA to be phased out by LTE. GSM will start the phase out starting 2015/16.So HSPA+ & LTE FTW!
As for your original post about the N4, lol, its 8 & 16GB, but hopefully a 32GB version is in the near future. I'm always left with 1GB in my GNex :crying: And 2GB of RAM is great! I'm always around or be 100MB, so 1GB is NOT enough. The SoC inside the N4 is highly need and is a huge upgrade from this crap SoC inside the GNex. With the S4PRO it will allow me to punch threw anything with no worries about slowdowns :victory:

J-Hop2o6 said:
LOL
GSM/HSPA+/LTE>>>CDMA/LTE .. CDMA is crap because:
1.) its not global
2.) No Sim cards (not sure if the CDMA/LTE versions acts the same as G/H+/LTE version where you can pop in your sim card in any compatible phone and it'll work).
And 3.) No simultaneous Talk+Data (No downloading large files/updating apps while a phone call comes in, but I believe LTE fixes that if you have it in your area).
So yea, can't wait for CDMA to be phased out by LTE. GSM will start the phase out starting 2015/16.So HSPA+ & LTE FTW!
As for your original post about the N4, lol, its 8 & 16GB, but hopefully a 32GB version is in the near future. I'm always left with 1GB in my GNex :crying: And 2GB of RAM is great! I'm always around or be 100MB, so 1GB is NOT enough. The SoC inside the N4 is highly need and is a huge upgrade from this crap SoC inside the GNex. With the S4PRO it will allow me to punch threw anything with no worries about slowdowns :victory:
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1) true
2) there are sim cards, and if you pop a sim card into a compatible phone, it works fine
3) talk and data works fine if you're a LTE area OR have a phone that has a SVDO radio.

Point 4 is very good. I however am keeping my Nexus simply because its perfect for my needs and will receive all the latest software updates direct from Google for at least another year. The only time I may change is if the HTC One X5 turns out to be true
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GNex is still a great device and relevant, not to mention I'm stuck in a Verizon contract. Looking forward to the next Nexus phone.
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It will end up being about $100 for me after selling my galaxy nexus. I was stunned when i heard the price, i expected it to be much higher. As far as the glass back i think a nice case takes care of that problem.

There's pretty much no reason to stick with Gnex, unless you really like the way it looks or prefer samsung. Nexus 4 beats it almost every way.
Nexus 4 all the way. Can't wait.

I am sticking ... and that was before I found out about not having LTE. I still have unlimited and use 4G quite a bit. Plus I just love the GN - front and design over all, though I painted the battery door. The only thing that sounds nice is the wireless powering without any extras and I'm sure the screen is beautiful. Not quite enough to push me. I'll certainly get the next Nexus as well.
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J-Hop2o6 said:
Verizon has a massive network, I can't deny that, but it uses CDMA which has some negative. But other than the tech that Verizon uses, the guy above answered a few things negative about Verizon so I won't repeat it, so i'll just write negatives about CDMA.
GSM/HSPA+/LTE>>>CDMA/LTE .. CDMA is crap because:
1.) its not global
2.) No Sim cards (not sure if the CDMA/LTE versions acts the same as G/H+/LTE version where you can pop in your sim card in any compatible phone and it'll work).
And 3.) No simultaneous Talk+Data (No downloading large files/updating apps while a phone call comes in, but I believe LTE fixes that if you have it in your area).
So yea, can't wait for CDMA to be phased out by LTE. GSM will start the phase out starting 2015/16.So HSPA+ & LTE FTW!
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1. I don't travel around the world so I don't think that matters to me.
2. You can swap out Sim cards.
3. I've never had issues with apps updating or whatever while in a phone call.
Not to mention I'm not the guy in charge of my contract/plan. >.>
I dunno, I've never had issues with Verizon. I'll do some research later on. This is getting off-topic so ill stop this now. :x
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I'll be sticking with the Galaxy Nexus as well. I still have 2 years left on my contract which is a drag, but that's not the only reason. As of right now, it gets the job done well. It runs smoothly & it can take the games I throw at it. When I get my next phone, I don't want it to be a minor jump from my current one & that's what the Nexus 4 feels like to me. I'm not disputing the power increase, but I'm just saying that I won't use it to it's full potential. I'll wait to see if there's a phone that packs more new hardware features than just power.