Ok, you may know this Thread over in the S2 forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205288 or this one http://www.gokhanmoral.com/gm/2012/04/10/siyahkernel-v3-1beta1/
My idea is too look into HellcatDroid´s special Kernel which allows one system to sit behind an other - primary - system and to be booted with a button combo, and try to "transfer" the preperations needed for this to work.
So we (this is not my project - it should be a big community project) need the help of a Kernel developer. - Everyone´s welcome
gokhanmoral implemented his own Version in his Siyah Kernel - so there is another point to look into.
I will attach HellcatDroid´s Kernel...
I've read a bit in the thread, and I'd say that the second system uses the same partitions as the first, they are splitted for the two systems(i.e. if /data is 512Mbs, 100 are for system2, 412, for system1). Am I right with that?
dark_knight35 said:
I've read a bit in the thread, and I'd say that the second system uses the same partitions as the first, they are splitted for the two systems(i.e. if /data is 512Mbs, 100 are for system2, 412, for system1). Am I right with that?
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Yep I think its right - but what do you mean with "512MB in /data - 100 for system2..."
They aren't installed in /data... or what do you mean?
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It will be a Great Idea,But I read in Thread That It's not compatible yet With ICS ROMs,So Double GB isn't that Well great, But Good for People who want Sammy Firmware/AOSP Dual GB Buut
Gammelgustav said:
Yep I think its right - but what do you mean with "512MB in /data - 100 for system2..."
They aren't installed in /data... or what do you mean?
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I mean that /data is splitted, so that the second ROM can use 100Mbs of it, the rest is reserved for the primary ROM.
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I mean that /data is splitted, so that the second ROM can use 100Mbs of it, the rest is reserved for the primary ROM.
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But you mean using it for data or do you mean for installing both systems in /data?
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question: who need it?
raXoN91 said:
question: who need it?
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->Flash-addicted XDA-member ^^
->People who want to run for example MIUI and a "Samsung" ROM
->Kernel devs - to be the first dev who brought Dualboot to a SGS (for their ego)
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It would be so sick if someone releases dualboot for galaxy s
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But you mean using it for data or do you mean for installing both systems in /data?
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Well, both ROMs use /data like it's used in one ROM, but they have to share the storage. The amount of Mbs the single ROMs can use is predefined.
raXoN91 said:
question: who need it?
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Someone who want a stable ROM for daily use and be able to test other ROMs without deleting the first one .
I admit that without ICS compatibility, not a lot of people would be interested in. So for now, it's a great project which I hope will evelve to a fully ICS / GB compatible dual-boot.
dark_knight35 said:
Well, both ROMs use /data like it's used in one ROM, but they have to share the storage. The amount of Mbs the single ROMs can use is predefined.
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Yep ok - thought you mean installing both ROMs in /data Partition
raXoN91 said:
question: who need it?
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Me! Sammy + Aosp.
burakgon said:
Me! Sammy + Aosp.
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+1
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Ok contacted HellcatDroid and mialwe...
Waiting for some answers
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burakgon said:
Me! Sammy + Aosp.
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As the kernel has to fit both ROMs, you never will be able to have this. Only two different cm9 or cm7 or Sammy ROMs
edit: if mialwe has enough time, I don't think it would be too hard to do this. As /system for second os one should use /datadata I suppose.
But compared to the s2 we have not much space. Maybe the system partition has to be shrinked to 210 MB, to make datadata equal in size.
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DerTeufel1980 said:
As the kernel has to fit both ROMs, you never will be able to have this. Only two different cm9 or cm7 or Sammy ROMs
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@DerTeufel: You just stole the words from my mouth. As you rightly said, it won't be possible to boot 2 ROM with 2 different file systems in the same partition - rfs vs yaffs...So it's either got to be 2 CM7s, 2 Sammys or 2 ICS based roms..
so cm & miui would be possible, right? i think that would be a great combo...
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I think my friend with his Moto Defy can boot both CM7 and 9... But I could be wrong.
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Trojan38 said:
I think my friend with his Moto Defy can boot both CM7 and 9... But I could be wrong.
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Not impossible because both are running on MTD, stock ROMs run on BML.
Related
Title says all.
Is there any real developer who can help me to build CM7 from sources ?
This is for Mini...there might be something here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423460
....Looks interesting I thought wanna help but my rig is aging
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why dont you just port from s plus. they already have fully working rom except for fm radio and wifi hotspot. just my 2sen
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This is for Mini...there might be something here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423460
....Looks interesting I thought wanna help but my rig is aging
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Thanks @andynroid , there are a lot of tutorials similar to this but the main part is device config for our device. Getting the device config is not easy and this is the main problem.
tomatoman23 said:
why dont you just port from s plus. they already have fully working rom except for fm radio and wifi hotspot. just my 2sen
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I have tried but no success. We need CM7 or AOSP GB kernel to successfully port from S+.
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Thanks @andynroid , there are a lot of tutorials similar to this but the main part is device config for our device. Getting the device config is not easy and this is the main problem.
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Do you mean the device config needed for building the kernel? If yes, it should be in our phone in /proc/config.gz
bagux said:
Do you mean the device config needed for building the kernel? If yes, it should be in our phone in /proc/config.gz
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Device Config and Vender Policy similar to arco's github but its for cm9.
How to get it for CM7/GB ?
Why dun we ask him....
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Why dun we ask him....
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I have asked him, but right now he is busy with his schedule maybe in future he may work on CM7.
I remember that kezraplane tried to port cm7 into wonder but he was busy ... U may ask him to help u how things work with cm7
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How about this......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24844267
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just a question. it is possible if we could just use arco/cowitgun kernel for cm7?
andynroid said:
How about this......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24844267
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I read every post on this thread, the main problem KP faced was the vendor folder.
Vendor and Device are the two prerequisite for building CM7 and I need help in these two things.
tomatoman23 said:
just a question. it is possible if we could just use arco/cowitgun kernel for cm7?
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arco/cowitgun kernel is not a pure cm7 kernel, it requires most of the things from stock rom. it will not work for cm7 port/build.
Something to sleep on n not rush over and is something achievable....
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Let's make a RoadMap for this development it will be worth studying and to implement..
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Check this tut ...
Its very detailed ..hope to help you
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/steel-droid/196475-guide-how-build-your-own-rom-cm7-source.html
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arco/cowitgun kernel is not a pure cm7 kernel, it requires most of the things from stock rom. it will not work for cm7 port/build.
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It can work, I have port a cm7 rom some time ago with this kernel. But you a right it is not a pure kernel, but if you overlooked samsung have released the sources of gb kernel, cause of the gpl and arco have taking it into his github.
Btw I myself have done some minor working to get me a device folder for our galaxy w, which compiles okay for cm7 and aosp, but with out luck to get it started right. It stucks somewhere in an initialization.
If it had worked, I would have let you know right away.
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It can work, I have port a cm7 rom some time ago with this kernel. But you a right it is not a pure kernel, but if you overlooked samsung have released the sources of gb kernel, cause of the gpl and arco have taking it into his github.
Btw I myself have done some minor working to get me a device folder for our galaxy w, which compiles okay for cm7 and aosp, but with out luck to get it started right. It stucks somewhere in an initialization.
If it had worked, I would have let you know right away.
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It will be good if you start working again on cm7. we need cm7 no matters who develop. We are all one community.
alidsd said:
It will be good if you start working again on cm7. we need cm7 no matters who develop. We are all one community.
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Yeah, I also would like to have it. And I also played with AOSP, but I'm just a beginner in android development.
I would be glad if some experienced developer could assist and guide us.
Regarding the stop in the start process I have to do some deeper investigation or is here someone who could do it and examine the boot process?
NOTE: DO NOT FLASH THIS TO YOUR PHONE> IT WILL HARD BRICK!
this is for any dev that wants to try and port android jellybean to the s3 Tmobile version. they already ported it to the internationl version so i think that might make it a little easier. here is the OP in the international section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737449
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NOTE: DO NOT FLASH THIS TO YOUR PHONE> IT WILL HARD BRICK!
this is for any dev that wants to try and port android jellybean to the s3 Tmobile version. they already ported it to the internationl version so i think that might make it a little easier. here is the OP in the international section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737449
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Hmmm...
Wonder if we could take that ROM, change the updater-script to match our mounting points....then we just need a kernel....
Which we have one kernel already made. Not sure if it would work though.
If anyone would help set up a build environment that would work for our kernels and roms then I will gladly help and start learning.
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Which we have one kernel already made. Not sure if it would work though.
If anyone would help set up a build environment that would work for our kernels and roms then I will gladly help and start learning.
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I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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Well, it shouldn't take too long. It may be possible to build a CM9 Kernel for our phones using parts of the stock kernel that we have access to.
Once the JB source is released, an S3 port might actually be viable. Otherwise it's essentially just flashing a gnex image and praying something/anything works.
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I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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a CM9 kernel shouldn't be needed, just a modded kernel for our specific phone from what i believe.
We know this, but it's more of an experiment. Also, it helps work out anything we may need to do early on with the modules and drivers
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Why not take this ROM, change the updater-script for our mount points, remove the flashing of the boot.img, flash ROM then flash the kernel Roman release?
Think that would work?
uoY_redruM said:
Why not take this ROM, change the updater-script for our mount points, remove the flashing of the boot.img, flash ROM then flash the kernel Roman release?
Think that would work?
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It could, in theory. But we would need to work on the modules for anything to work. Could you post our mount points?
why does it have to be a cm9 kernel?
to be completely honest, as soon as we get a cm9 alpha, we will see some worth while stuff! but until then. TouchWiz it iz. We will have team kang's AOKP in no time im sure. i cant wait to see wuts to come. especially since this phone is at all the major carriers and they are all basically exactly the same! should be epic.
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to be completely honest, as soon as we get a cm9 alpha, we will see some worth while stuff! but until then. TouchWiz it iz. We will have team kang's AOKP in no time im sure. i cant wait to see wuts to come. especially since this phone is at all the major carriers and they are all basically exactly the same! should be epic.
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yea i think once one of the other major carriers (or ares) get cm9 then we will see some awesome stuff for everyones phone!
I think that the only thing that makes them different is the radios in the phone
uoY_redruM said:
Hmmm...
Wonder if we could take that ROM, change the updater-script to match our mounting points....then we just need a kernel....
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uoY_redruM said:
I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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uoY_redruM said:
Why not take this ROM, change the updater-script for our mount points, remove the flashing of the boot.img, flash ROM then flash the kernel Roman release?
Think that would work?
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If aosp was that easy we would all be doing it but no... way more complex than that....
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
howtomen said:
If aosp was that easy we would all be doing it but no... way more complex than that....
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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Wishful thinking I suppose
in another note i found a mini tutorial on how to port it to other devices if anyone wants to try it here is the guide. it is an SDK port. note: i did not write this guide i am just posting a link to the authors op. you can thank him and/or donate to him. here isorum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36 the link:
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in another note i found a mini tutorial on how to port it to other devices if anyone wants to try it here is the guide. it is an SDK port. note: i did not write this guide i am just posting a link to the authors op. you can thank him and/or donate to him. here isorum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36 the link:
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Link is broken, im not meaning to be a lazy pest.
sswb27 said:
Link is broken, im not meaning to be a lazy pest.
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sorry about that :silly:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
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sorry about that :silly:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
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i also have a deodexed system dump of jb if you want it let me know.
Source is out
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Can anyone pls mod multiboot or dualboot support in the kernal of our device..its already available for galaxy s plus and many other phones..it would be very handy for all rom testers and me too!
farisnanosoft said:
Can anyone pls mod multiboot or dualboot support in the kernal of our device..its already available for galaxy s plus and many other phones..it would be very handy for all rom testers and me too!
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I don't think ours have Dual-Boot feature... And, why do we need it for anyways? :what:
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TiTAN-O-One said:
I don't think ours have Dual-Boot feature... And, why do we need it for anyways? :what:
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you're right I think, dual boot will make our phone slowly, cause it has a little internal memory.. it's what I think cmiiw
feizhel_vandrago said:
you're right I think, dual boot will make our phone slowly, cause it has a little internal memory.. it's what I think cmiiw
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it wont make the phone slow..actually we can boot it smoothly from externalsd if we've faster one,class 10 is excellent..advantage is we can use a stable rom for normal use and at the same time we can taste the latest jelly bean...its explained in our little bro galaxy s plus forum..there is some method of partitioning and only we need is a kernel supporting it..
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it wont make the phone slow..actually we can boot it smoothly from externalsd if we've faster one,class 10 is excellent..advantage is we can use a stable rom for normal use and at the same time we can taste the latest jelly bean...its explained in our little bro galaxy s plus forum..there is some method of partitioning and only we need is a kernel supporting it..
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oh.. i dont know about it bro i'm just a newbie.. i'm sorry if i was wrong..
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it wont make the phone slow..actually we can boot it smoothly from externalsd if we've faster one,class 10 is excellent..advantage is we can use a stable rom for normal use and at the same time we can taste the latest jelly bean...its explained in our little bro galaxy s plus forum..there is some method of partitioning and only we need is a kernel supporting it..
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If tht is the case, CMIIW but i think we have to do a partition on our SD Cards rite?
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I've ever ask a question like this and directly answered by hadid japri..,
"galaxy W kernel devs. Ever try to develop multiboot kernel but it's problem on internal storage and our RAM not support for it"
I forget why our RAM not support for it..
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We should make a modded RAMdisk to enable multiboot in the principal kernel, and place the other rom in a ext3-4 sd partition.
Our RAM is as same as I9001 so I don't see why we can't do it.
miki2o said:
We should make a modded RAMdisk to enable multiboot in the principal kernel, and place the other rom in a ext3-4 sd partition.
Our RAM is as same as I9001 so I don't see why we can't do it.
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finally a hopeful word! keep digging
galaxy s plus dual boot-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237725
i hope it can be possible later..
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farisnanosoft said:
Can anyone pls mod multiboot or dualboot support in the kernal of our device..its already available for galaxy s plus and many other phones..it would be very handy for all rom testers and me too!
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You need pimp my rom for change and set 2. Boot animation search from google play store/
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You need pimp my rom for change and set 2. Boot animation search from google play store/
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for what?didnt feel any connection with the topic!
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for what?didnt feel any connection with the topic!
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Ahh sorry my noob english :'(
As new comer, so this stupid? question comes to general
Is it possible to make ultimate kernel that work on any ROM stage???
(GB, ICS, CM 10.1)
I mean that we can switch easilly between all ROM in SD card
Lupus has done with it, but miss CM10.1 one :silly:
goodness4411 said:
As new comer, so this stupid? question comes to general
Is it possible to make ultimate kernel that work on any ROM stage???
(GB, ICS, CM 10.1)
I mean that we can switch easilly between all ROM in SD card
Lupus has done with it, but miss CM10.1 one :silly:
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No, it is not.
nAa kernel works on CM10;CM10.1, and should also on CM9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273011
Try including the ramdisks of each android version by extracting boot.imgs and then try. But the process is really hard and u may also need to prepare a new zImage...
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Someguyfromhell said:
No, it is not.
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OK, maybe not for now
NedasPekorius said:
nAa kernel works on CM10;CM10.1, and should also on CM9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273011
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Actually i really want to have easy switch only between ICS and JB (ICS for all working functions and JB for advance exp)
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Try including the ramdisks of each android version by extracting boot.imgs and then try. But the process is really hard and u may also need to prepare a new zImage...
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Thanks for possibility ...
Noted... but still far maybe for trial.. i'm still zero point bla bla in android...
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No, it is not.
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Itcan be done but with various patches in ramdisk (but not everything woring 100%). I had a kernel on my PLAY for GB ICS and JB but compared to say a GB specific kernel or ICS specific kernel performance decreased.
So to anwser the OP's question. Yes its possible but using a specific kernel for that specific android is much better.
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Itcan be done but with various patches in ramdisk (but not everything woring 100%). I had a kernel on my PLAY for GB ICS and JB but compared to say a GB specific kernel or ICS specific kernel performance decreased.
So to anwser the OP's question. Yes its possible but using a specific kernel for that specific android is much better.
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Can you make a kernel that runs stock ICS and cm10 job at least.. You did this type of kernels for us lupus jb that runs cm10 & 10.1 and lupus GB & ICS kernel ... Just requesting it would be better to have such working kernel
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Can you make a kernel that runs stock ICS and cm10 job at least.. You did this type of kernels for us lupus jb that runs cm10 & 10.1 and lupus GB & ICS kernel ... Just requesting it would be better to have such working kernel
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I could but WiFi wont work and not sure about anything else. I will not attempt to do anything like this without a mogami device without owning one. I was meant to be getting one soon but donator moved to a new device and unfortunately sold his old device to family member instead
Hard to hear those words but I'm happy with your kernels... Without owning mogami device you did tremendous job for us .. hands off
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Ready to flash :victory:
Yeah, this seems very nice, i was waiting for ROM like this
Little mistake in OP - not CWM 3.0.4.5 only 6.0.4.5, right?
And you could make version without GAPPS cause i always install the most light Banks Core Gapps and i don't need another Gapps
edit - I'm downloading now, unfortunately Sendspace sucks, i have 71kb/s dl speed, can you make some mirror?
pianistaPL said:
Yeah, this seems very nice, i was waiting for ROM like this
Little mistake in OP - not CWM 3.0.4.5 onlu 6.0.4.5, right?
And you could make version without GAPPS cause i always install the most light Banks Core Gapps and i don't need another Gapps
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the rom already contains' the gapps core banks, all lightened and optimized, thanks for reporting the correct cwm 6.0.4.5 ...
miseusegau said:
the rom already contains' the gapps core banks, all lightened and optimized, thanks for reporting the correct cwm 6.0.4.5 ...
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Oh. I see, my mistake, i didn't read well... thanks!
BTW... If you use BaNkS Gapps i guess you should put his nick to credits
do you recommend flashing the bionic optimization?
aHecticLife said:
do you recommend flashing the bionic optimization?
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I'm testing...
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I'm testing...
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haha okay thanks bro
well I'm flashing the rom right now without the optimizations , i'll report back how it turns out :good:
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haha okay thanks bro
well I'm flashing the rom right now without the optimizations , i'll report back how it turns out :good:
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okk ... let me know, I've already posted on the forum Italian rom for a week and it's all very well ...
Is possible to use twrp or it's just cwmr? Thanks
xda_babby said:
Is possible to use twrp or it's just cwmr? Thanks
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no I'm sorry, flash the cwm, install the rom and then comes back with the TWRP .... the zip is only compatible with the cwm recovery ...
How is this ROM is it stable anyone have any resets or freezes?
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I am a bit confused. Is it aosp build with some things from omni or a complete omni build with some features from elsewhere?
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matoushybl said:
I am a bit confused. Is it aosp build with some things from omni or a complete omni build with some features from elsewhere?
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and 'a remake based on omni, improved where possible, absolutely stable and free of bugs
juju2011 said:
How is this ROM is it stable anyone have any resets or freezes?
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stable, no restart, no bugs
Sweet I'll give her a flash when I get home
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juju2011 said:
Sweet I'll give her a flash when I get home
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well .... then let me know if you like
I have laggy animation when i back to home screen from app drawer. Not always, only when before i closed some app.
I'm running Fancy Kernel pre45-2
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I have lag animation when i back to home screen from app drawer. Not always, only when before i closed some app
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try to install the kernel aospa ... much faster
Very smooth I like a lot I'm going to keep fiddling around but very good job sir ...oh question is there away to edit quicktiles??
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