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Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca

Interesting

Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas

ohyeahar said:
Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca

ohyeahar said:
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.

It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained

That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
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It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.

Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca

Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)

Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.

Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
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jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.

Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

[Q] Original ICS for Desire?

Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student

No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread.

but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads

big_X said:
but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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He said almost. The desire HD isn't getting it, and that's the next Gen of the desire. Case closed
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big_X said:
Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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erklat said:
And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.

bortak said:
Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.
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You think HTC is bad build quality? Whenever I hold a SGS2 in my hand, ive got the feeling im holding a worthless piece of plastic. I still have a few months to think about the new phone im goinna pick, but I think I will miss Sense too much once I choose a non htc phone.

No, as the others already said, there wont be an original ICS-ROM for the Desire.
And the user "stankyou" meant by saying "No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread." that the stock Gingerbread ROM on Desire is just a light version of GB.
And yeah, its really a evidence of incapacity of HTC to not support a not even 2 years old flagship (at the time it was launched) smartphone. But Samsung and most of the other Android smartphones producers are quite the same unfortunately. Only Sony (Ericsson) showed way more effort in the last few months.
And for me HTC really lost the lead in technology a bit and some people are also saying that the devices of HTC suffer the loss of manufacture quality. My next Phone will probably be a Samsung even though the quality of the covers isnt the best.

There are several ICS Roms in development - but these are all stock.
I'd imagine once HTC Roms with ICS start getting out in the wild, somebody will probably try and port them to the Desire.
Considering the limited hardware, I wouldn't hold out too much hope for them being any good though.

big_X said:
Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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Wrong. Samsung isn't releasing ICS for the original Galaxy S. They might be releasing a 'value pack'.
And im100% sure that the original Desire won't get ICS officially.
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What is wrong with HTC !!!!!!!!

Today I picked up my one x from store. It's a very nice phone but seriously what is wrong with HTC ? It's current firmware is so riddled with bugs, I cannot believe they release their flagship with this kind of ****ty firmware. I know it will be much better when the patches start coming.........
I am currently on 1.26.xx, has anyone started receiving any OTAs ?

RADLOUNI said:
Today I picked up my one x from store. It's a very nice phone but seriously what is wrong with HTC ? It's current firmware is so riddled with bugs, I cannot believe they release their flagship with this kind of ****ty firmware. I know it will be much better when the patches start coming.........
I am currently on 1.26.xx, has anyone started receiving any OTAs ?
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Can you explain what bugs you have now?

RADLOUNI said:
Today I picked up my one x from store. It's a very nice phone but seriously what is wrong with HTC ? It's current firmware is so riddled with bugs, I cannot believe they release their flagship with this kind of ****ty firmware. I know it will be much better when the patches start coming.........
I am currently on 1.26.xx, has anyone started receiving any OTAs ?
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If you find this phone that bad I'd return it right away and switch to another, although I get the impression you'll feel the same about that phone as well.
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mgmCube said:
Can you explain what bugs you have now?
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Agenda widget causes sense to crash
When I connect the charger the touch screen goes crazy and unresponsive. Goes back to normal when I unplug the charger.
Sense reloads every now and then
You cannot enable certain options in settings like GPU 2d rendering

Basil3 said:
If you find this phone that bad I'd return it right away and switch to another, although I get the impression you'll feel the same about that phone as well.
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Easy and naive answer can you come up with something more constructive

Your Opening post wasnt constructive at all and seemed a rant to me. That why you got such answers.
Rather than posting a new thread, why cant you just search the forum and find a thread where you problems are mentioned?
No ranting threads are allowed so this thread is now closed

Getting money back for my One X due to many repairs - Buy new OneX or wait for OneX+?

Hello,
I am probably getting my money back due to too many repairs within 6 months - Now the question is, would you recommend me to get a new One X, or wait for the rumored One X+?
Cheers,

psycop said:
Hello,
I am probably getting my phone back due to too many repairs within 6 months - Now the question is, would you recommend me to get a new One X, or wait for the rumored One X+?
Cheers,
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I would wait for the one x+ sounds really good
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One X+ for sure!

One X+ all the way... I still try to convince HTC to stop at the 4th faulty One X and just give me an One X+.
I offered a lot of times to pay the difference.

Allright i will wait for the One X + then, any word on release date?

erm.. gotta say this. but every single phone that is released, will have some sort of teething problems. quite frankly it's a miracle if it didn't have any problems.
does it not seem likely to anybody that the one x+ will simply have it's own set of teething problems?
i'm not saying don't get it, just don't expect it to be flawless, because it probably won't be

lawrence750 said:
erm.. gotta say this. but every single phone that is released, will have some sort of teething problems. quite frankly it's a miracle if it didn't have any problems.
does it not seem likely to anybody that the one x+ will simply have it's own set of teething problems?
i'm not saying don't get it, just don't expect it to be flawless, because it probably won't be
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No phone by any company is "perfect" no matter how "appelish" they try to get
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the one x+ will not have the same amount of problems
its a refresh for the same phone, by now most issues are dealt with and this the whole point of a refresh actually

I guess the question is whether there is going to be a one X+ or not. Plus, it might be a lot more expensive for some small engineering defects that could have been fixed already.

If I'm on the same boat I will go for one x+, even with teething new phone problem. If the engineering and production problem have yet to be resolved then I will be looking forward to get the ones+2 or what ever
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jimmy2027 said:
I guess the question is whether there is going to be a one X+ or not. Plus, it might be a lot more expensive for some small engineering defects that could have been fixed already.
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Modaco has a news article, o2 have it in their catalog showing as coming soon
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If I'm on the same boat I will go for one x+, even with teething new phone problem. If the engineering and production problem have yet to be resolved then I will be looking forward to get the ones+2 or what ever
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If you get a phone soon after release ,it will have problems, however little,even if just software bugs and so on.. Its just a fact of life I'm afraid. I agree with hamdir there might be less problems but they've likely changed the production process of the tegra and so that could cause some new issues to show up over time. It's also running jelly bean, so because the Google code has changed a lot, no doubt some new, different software bugs will be introduced.
Hopefully the qc will be better now and there will be less hardware problems though. As it's basically the same design so the wifi fix would already be in there etc
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Can anyone of you who insists that the HOX+ will be better in terms of QC explain to me what make you so sure that this upgraded version will have fewer defects? I mean hardware issues such as dodgy GPS/ death grip have been existent on HTC phones since the DHD, Sensation, Sensation XE, Sensation XL and now HTC One X. Just yesterday I downloaded the GPS status app on my co-worker's HTC one S (1.7 Ghz version) and guess what the result was: the phone was unable to connect to any satellite at all, whereas the Xperia S was connecting to about 10 out of 20 and the error was about 4,5 meters. And keep in mind the HOS s3 version came out way after the HOX and the s4 HOS and yet still has the same GPS problem.
So please enlighten me with the reasons for your positivity. Not trolling I really want to know.

The One X+ all the way, the LTE alone makes it a worthwhile investment. That said, S-OFF will probably take longer.

Defo one x+! Its's refreshed version of one x + 64GB storage/higher clocked processor.

louis.b said:
Can anyone of you who insists that the HOX+ will be better in terms of QC explain to me what make you so sure that this upgraded version will have fewer defects? I mean hardware issues such as dodgy GPS/ death grip have been existent on HTC phones since the DHD, Sensation, Sensation XE, Sensation XL and now HTC One X. Just yesterday I downloaded the GPS status app on my co-worker's HTC one S (1.7 Ghz version) and guess what the result was: the phone was unable to connect to any satellite at all, whereas the Xperia S was connecting to about 10 out of 20 and the error was about 4,5 meters. And keep in mind the HOS s3 version came out way after the HOX and the s4 HOS and yet still has the same GPS problem.
So please enlighten me with the reasons for your positivity. Not trolling I really want to know.
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my one x, my cousin's, my friend's and my sister's
funny im in the third world, Lebanon and I use GPS all the time in all of my off roads
enlightened yet?

Tell HTC what you think of no more One X updates!

Now that HTC have confirmed they are not providing any further OS updates for the One X and the One X+, I started a thread in the One X+ forum with a survey monkey link to give us all the chance to tell HTC what we think of their decision. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey. The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49619827
Many users are frustrated that HTC don't listen to their customers so I compiled the survey to give us all the opportunity to express our collected opinion. Carpe diem!

Yeah, really bad move from HTC! :/

yeah, you pay good money for a device with good spec and you expect, because of the spec you would get more updates other than just JB, poor move HTC

It's not that I'm disappointed by the amount of updates, it's more that the updates HTC gave us constantly broke things. One of the first Updates added a new bootloader which broke the compactiblity of CM10, the update to 3.20.XXX.3 added a new touch driver which broke compactiblity to touch in recovery (at least if you still want to be able to use mass storage/adb) and the 4.2.2 update broke our wifi in october and htc still didn't bother to deliver a fix after almost half a year! I would have prefered when they had just made a single update from 4.0 to 4.2 and even keeped sense 4 as long as they had delived a fully working rom.
An other problem of htc are their kernel source releases: they always wait till the end of the 90-days-period after the rom-update before they release it, even though they definitly had it since the release of the rom update. Take an example at samsung: they haven't updated the note 3 to 4.4yet but the kernel source is already there!
I will never, ever again buy another HTC or Tegra phone.

Vote with your wallet, and don't buy HTC again. I certainly won't.

I think all phone manufacturers should keep phones updated for 2 years minimum as that is how long most phone contracts are for.
In the EU they are already covered by a 2 year warranty, i would expect the update issue to be forced in this region for the same reason.
Here is hoping any way

It is funny that for example LG will upgrade some low end devices to 4.4,a HTC wont upgrade One X and One X+ and they still have decent hardware and very nice display...shame on you HTC

I made my views pretty clear. HTC won't listen, if they do, it'll be a half ar**d support like the desire, desire HD...etc etc. Next time i'm just getting a google nexus phone outright and a 30 day rolling contract. Bye Bye HTC, hope you either learn or sink

The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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Rotten Ross said:
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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What are the features on Kitkat that we don't have on 4.2.2 Sense 5 ?
I had the Frustration of updates when i was on desire z 2.2 and the upgrade to 2.3 (download manager and the toggle buttons) was extremely late in my country
but since hox started 4.1 i have not found Google adding any thing revolutionary that make a lot of difference to the device experience
I have been using HTC because of the build and the design of devices, only thing i hate about how htc handled hox is the brokern wifi on the current build, it has been disappointing

Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.

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Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.

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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers

Yep waste of space thread, if you want kit kat flash one of the 2 variants posted in this section.
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thekillingroad said:
Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.

ace9988 said:
well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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Why do you look for a side to put a blame on? You're still using the word "support" for upgrading a sofware to an upper version, but let stay in terms, if we're looking for "ethical", this does NOT mean support. I can get many things as your opinion, but this is NOT. HTC does still support One X, it is not upgrading the software to another major version, that is it. Don't wanna look annoying but I am a software and management consultant and make lots of Support and Maintenance agreements, what you want is not support.
Well, you want an ethical solution.. In Turkey One X was still sold I think ended about 4-5 months ago, and with 3 year contracts. It is also sold for a long time, may be not in Western countries or in Oceania, but deciding just for those countries is not legal right? So, how long the upgrade process should last then? till 2016? 2017? This has no ethical solution. You used the key word, most. This is the best way to measure the economic point of view Would you like to make a market analysis to find out when the One X is sold most? Would you choose a specific month of a year? This is a dead-end bro, believe me.
Again, don't wanna look annoying, but then get a crapsung, you do know they do update their phones further, that is clear from Sensation/S2.
This is how HTC makes their market strategy and you might say that it is clear that ther strategy is not working, but most of experts beliece upgrades are not the main reason for this.
Anyways, I don't wanna "troll" in the topic where people write their opinions, just wanted to share mine.
Cheers

But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4

Beyazid said:
But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But then are we looking for an ethical solution, if we choose the start point as global release? I may have bought my phone as soon as it is released in my country and it could have been December 2012, and I might have gotten it with a three year contract. Who has the blame for my situation then? And the two is years is something just we made up since "most" of the users get the phone in two-year contracts and the warranty is for two years.
One last update.. But we still haven't reached May 2014, and till then Google might release a 4.5? Wouldn't we want it then?
Cheers

The only way we can change things regarding updates is to try to evoke a law where the minimal update timeframe is set
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Well that´s another Problem with all the phone brands who build Android phones.
The updates take much too long to get released for the phones.
If I would follow your logic we still should get Android Kit Kat since it was released in November. A better example would be 4.3 which was released for Nexus phones 2 months before 4.2 was released for HOX(+).
It effectively means we got 2 big Android revisions (4.1 + 4.2) which means 1 year of support but it was only stretched from April 2012 (official release) to July/August 2013 (last update)
And just for your interest. It doesn´t matter how long the carrier contracts run or when it was released in YOUR country. It´s about unbranded devices which are officially released. Carrier branded phones shouldn´t be bought anymore and/or the consumer shouldn´t choose them anymore to make clear that the way carriers are working isn´t consumer friendly but that´s a whole different point