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Things i hate about the HTC Desire

I really miss a few features on my HTC Hero. Sadly it seems like the Hero was much more userfriendly when it comes to hardware design choices.
1. PenTile Matrix Display freaks me out. I can see the rough edges very easily. Makes my eyes having problems with focusing because the edges seem blurry. I have read a lot about this problem prior to getting an Desire so i shouldn't complain. Still it's much more visible than some people try to make it sound. Especially in white text/ black background.
2. Hardware Buttons: Call Buttons...yeah everybody can see that the Desire doesn't have those, and that's not my main gripe. My MAIN problem is that i can't wake this damn screen with ANY other button than the POWER Button, which happens to be positioned at the most uncomfortable position available. It was so much more user friendly on the Hero where i can wake and unlock the screen by two hardware buttons at the bottom.
3. Android Market is SLOW: Why is the Android market like 500 times slower to start a download than my old hero?
4. trackpad: the trackwheel for the hero was more precise.
5. color saturation. welcome to the candy land! Reds and orange colors burn into your eyes. some people like that.
6. it killed my microsd card...well ok i don't know if this is the desires fault but still: suddenly my sd card was shown as faulty. On the PC is works without any problems, but i had to format it in order to use it with the desire.
Of course there are some good things too, like the speed. The desire is really fast, but not THAT much faster than the Milestone. And the overall built quality is great.

Everything you mention is why I LOVE my Desire - vibrant colours, awesome screen, optical pad instead of ball which only ends up breaking/getting clogged with dust...can't fault it IMO (except the Market, it is a bit slow but meh)

according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?

well i'm sort of used with the "power button to wake the device" since i had a winmo device before the desire, so i don't really see it as a bad thing
cez10 said:
according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
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i'm using windows 7 64bit and never did that, my sd card was show as faulty once so i powered off the phone took out the card, putted in my pc and saw that everything was working fine, putted it again in the phone and never had a problem again.

EddyOS said:
Everything you mention is why I LOVE my Desire - vibrant colours, awesome screen, optical pad instead of ball which only ends up breaking/getting clogged with dust...can't fault it IMO (except the Market, it is a bit slow but meh)
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awesome screen? Have you seen the Motorola Droid live?
About the colors, they are not reproduced correctly as many tests have proven. But i already said that this is also a personal preference.
But the bad resolution quality (comapred to the droid) of the PenTile Matrix display is not a matter of preference, because nobody would prefer the PenTile concept compared to the usual RGB per Pixel approach.

cez10 said:
according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
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no, and actually i believe this was the problem. I only unmounted the sd card using the desire/hero, but never ejected the card on windows prior to that. Just recently i found out that i have to eject the card via windows before unmounting it.

#1
You say I shouldn't complain... then don't I don't have any problems with my eyes.
#2
Why would you need call buttons? My screen turns on as soon as I pull it from my ear (proximity sensor) quite easy to touch the big red bar then isn't it?
#3
My market doesn't appear to be any slower, and download is only improved, I have a 20 mbit connection and with my hero on wifi I would max get 500kb/s
The desire reaches full connection speed @ 1500kb/s so download from market is a lot faster.
#4
More precise but it got dirty very quick, mine even changed color from white to yellowish (maybe I should stop smoking) but not only nicotine sticks to it. Everything sticks to it.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
awesome screen? Have you seen the Motorola Droid live?
About the colors, they are not reproduced correctly as many tests have proven. But i already said that this is also a personal preference.
But the bad resolution quality (comapred to the droid) of the PenTile Matrix display is not a matter of preference, because nobody would prefer the PenTile concept compared to the usual RGB per Pixel approach.
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I've not seen the Droid, nor do I want to. Motorola phones are some of the WORST I've ever had the pleasure (or not) to use. I've no issues with the Desire's screen and bar the slight pink issue I can't fault it.
As said, this is all personal opinion but putting a thread about why you hate a device in the forum where people who love it frequent is asking to get flamed!!

EddyOS said:
I've not seen the Droid, nor do I want to. Motorola phones are some of the WORST I've ever had the pleasure (or not) to use. I've no issues with the Desire's screen and bar the slight pink issue I can't fault it.
As said, this is all personal opinion but putting a thread about why you hate a device in the forum where people who love it frequent is asking to get flamed!!
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He only hates a few parts of it, not the whole thing, what's wrong with that?
I agree on most points, though this is my first android phone. The first thing I noticed when I turned it on was the jagged line thing because of the pentile display, its no way near as nice looking as a display should be with that ppi. It kind of defeats the point of a hi res screen.
But other than that and the fact that sense sucks compared to stock ui, I love this phone

I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!

EddyOS said:
I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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lol you will have it as it's impossible to not. Its easiest to notice on the edge of each key on the keyboard. You can quite clearly see the individual pixels, which you shouldn't really see on a high res screen

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I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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your eyes probably don't notice it, which is actually very good in this case.
Sadly my eagle eyes can see it very clearly. I just have to wait a few year, then i won't see the problems either.
But believe me the Motorola Milestone Display is just better by a huge margin. I had a testdevice for my blog for about 2 months, and the display is fantastic.
samac92 is completely right, when he says that the pentile technology defeats the point of having a (pseudo) WVGA resolution. If you ever have the chance to compare the Motorola droid vs. Desire display, do it. The difference is huge, because the droid has real WVGA resolution as every pixel has RGB color informations, while pentile pixel only have two color informations per pixel.

I've got perfect 20/20 vision, I just probably haven't looked close enough tbh - a slightly jagged keyboard really doesn't bother me. Coming from the HD2 with it's huge (but washed out) screen this is a god send and easily the best phone I've had...and I've had a lot!!
No doubt something else will come out in future but for now I honestly have no issues with the Desire. If I did I'd be rid of it
Plus, the Milestone is a HORRID looking phone...nothing new there, eh Moto??

#1: i was hoping that the pentile problem wasn't as bad. But sadly it is quite bad indeed.
#2 i don't need call buttons at any cost, i need hardware buttons at the bottom of the device (don't care if its a call button or any other button) which can wake up the screen, and put it so sleep mode. I don't want to reach out to the power button every time, as this is not a natural movement when holding the device with one hand.
Also redialing using the "start call" button was very comfortable as you would directly open the dialer app. It's quicker than having to use a shortcut app on the homescreen imho.
#3 not the download itself is slower. but the time that passes until the download starts. There are time where i have to wait for 3-4 minutes until the download starts. Having a good downstream is great, but on my hero i have the app installed before the download starts on the desire on some occasions.
Stafflover said:
#1
You say I shouldn't complain... then don't I don't have any problems with my eyes.
#2
Why would you need call buttons? My screen turns on as soon as I pull it from my ear (proximity sensor) quite easy to touch the big red bar then isn't it?
#3
My market doesn't appear to be any slower, and download is only improved, I have a 20 mbit connection and with my hero on wifi I would max get 500kb/s
The desire reaches full connection speed @ 1500kb/s so download from market is a lot faster.
#4
More precise but it got dirty very quick, mine even changed color from white to yellowish (maybe I should stop smoking) but not only nicotine sticks to it. Everything sticks to it.
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EddyOS said:
I've got perfect 20/20 vision, I just probably haven't looked close enough tbh - a slightly jagged keyboard really doesn't bother me. Coming from the HD2 with it's huge (but washed out) screen this is a god send and easily the best phone I've had...and I've had a lot!!
No doubt something else will come out in future but for now I honestly have no issues with the Desire. If I did I'd be rid of it
Plus, the Milestone is a HORRID looking phone...nothing new there, eh Moto??
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you are right, the HD2 was somehow blurry and washed out.
The sad thing is that i don't have to look close to see the rough edges on the desire display. i can see it very easily.
But you really miss out on the milestone display, you don't have to wait for future devices to blow out the desires display out of the water. After seeing that milestone magic, the desire display is just no contest anymore. I would have opted for the milestone, but other than the display the desire just has much better hardware specs like RAM and CPU. i also like sense.
And the milestone doesn't have the new launcher style of the N1 after the 2.1 update, but still the plain old boring android 1.x launcher.

I wouldn't be caught dead with the Milestone - every review I've read has said it's crap and a screen just isn't enough to have a phone I'm afraid...
Desire FTW!!

EddyOS said:
I wouldn't be caught dead with the Milestone - every review I've read has said it's crap and a screen just isn't enough to have a phone I'm afraid...
Desire FTW!!
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hmm very interesting as nearly all known media like engadget and gizmodo as well as all big media in germany really praised this device.
I praised it on my blog review too. And i'm definetly not preferring motorola usually. I'm a HTC fan starting from MDA Compact (HTC Magician) days a decade ago.
The Milestone was the first real killer Android device which sold some impressing numbers. Of course the HTC Hero wasn't bad either, but it didn't have the impact that the droid/milestine had.

Well I've just looked long and hard at the keyboard and I can't see any individual pixels.
But I am 40, so that might be another benefit of getting older.

It was the very first thing I noticed on the Desire, even though it took me a while to find what it was. I don't think good or bad eyesight has anything to do with us noticing or not noticing the PenTile issue. I also see issues on HD tv's and expensive HD Projectors, that no one else sees. And no, my vision is far from perfect. I don't wear glasses, but other than that, my sight is average at the most. So I guess it has to do with how your brain process the visual input. Oh, and I am over 40 too

3. Android Market is SLOW: Why is the Android market like 500 times slower to start a download than my old hero?
Download appbrain from the market then you can use the appbrain.com site for apps then sync to your phone from your pc.
That site is faster to use than the market place

Just to help make things clear

With all the bad press, reviews an bug reports on here latley i rekon it has put a lot of people off getting this awesome peice of kit so just to clear the air when all is said and done would you still get the One X again i would for sure
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snowwhite007 said:
With all the bad press, reviews an bug reports on here latley i rekon it has put a lot of people off getting this awesome peice of kit so just to clear the air when all is said and done would you still get the One X again i would for sure
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It's not always that simple. There are three types of issues:
1) S/W which is correctable over time. HTC's future rests on the success of the One line so I have confidence the X will be updated as frequently as necessary. A lot of the issues reported seem (to me) to be s/w related.
2) H/W issues which fall in to two categories. The first being random production defects which don’t affect every device equally. The second category is consistent failings that affect every device (like the black One S's coating chipping off). The majority of h/w issues I've seen posted seem to fall in to the first category.
3) Design flaws. The Sensation antenna-gate issue is an example of this. So far the One X doesn't seem to have any of these.
Even with all that's been posted I ordered one that's due to arrive tomorrow. If it performs well, it stays. If it's flaky (beyond what's reasonable for a new device), it goes back.
Everyone's expectations are different and both the happy and unhappy need to be respected.

I like the phone and it will not be going back. There isn't a single phone on the market in my opinion that matches it when it comes to its combination of looks and specifications and shear wow factor. Its taken me almost 8 months to pick a phone that met all of my requirements after coming from the original Desire.
I am not a hard core phone gamer (But i can be if i want to be now), I am not someone that needs endless memory cards for tonnes of music and video (I have a PC for this, transfer rates are super fast, so it really isn't a hard ship, plus there is dropbox), I do not need a replaceable battery as I have a technet 7000mah portable which is great, its also just as portable as a spare battery anyway (Not that I have had any cause to use it yet).
I also have the white version, so shouldn't have any paint issues.
Yes it has Sense 4.0 which tends to hang every now and then, yes the video camera isn't as good as it will be, all of which are software, and WILL be fixed. Yes it has a rattle when you shake it like an idiot next to your ear, but I will never need to do that unless there is a Maraca app!
Its a mass produced product, as is the case with EVERYTHING mass produced there are batches that have faults and experience issues. Look at the mighty Apple I-Phone! Slight rant over

Yes of course ure correct thats why i feel people need a better idea of those who have the device are they happy knowing and waiting for fixes or would they have choosing different. My reason for post is that theres a lit of people went down the one S route due to all the posts here. Of course there is reason to complain just wanted people to no that im sure there are others like me happy knowing that the fixes will come an the device is great
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The difference in price between the S and X isn't that far apart. I think I would get a sense of buyers remorse 6 months down the line if I went for the S.

jaspabt said:
Yes it has a rattle when you shake it like an idiot next to your ear, but I will never need to do that unless there is a Maraca app!
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best post so far i seen here on these forums
but on a serious note i love my phone and i would recommend it to people no matter what. i know i had a few problems with my phones but it is due to me being picky..but overall it is a beautiful phone to have and would recommend it to many more people..and i exchanging my white version for the grey...saw my mates one and it looks more damn sexier than the white

Don't know what people are whinging about.
IT IS THE BEST SMARTPHONE ON THE MARKET
There, I've said it.
NoobTerminator said:
best post so far i seen here on these forums
but on a serious note i love my phone and i would recommend it to people no matter what. i know i had a few problems with my phones but it is due to me being picky..but overall it is a beautiful phone to have and would recommend it to many more people..and i exchanging my white version for the grey...saw my mates one and it looks more damn sexier than the white
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I was going to order white, then I changed my order for grey. Then I was having second thoughts so I went to look at them both in a shop before my order arrived. So glad I went for grey now

DaveDesire said:
Don't know what people are whinging about.
IT IS THE BEST SMARTPHONE ON THE MARKET
There, I've said it.
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forget it just saw the actual post now why you quoted me

Good thread. I was surprised to find so many negative comments about the One X on here. It's cutting edge, possibly even bleeding... I bought mine in the knowledge that there may be some teething problems, but I'm more likely to still have something "current" in 18 months as the 2 year contract nears it's end. There are't many phone's that is true of.
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OneXuser said:
Good thread. I was surprised to find so many negative comments about the One X on here. It's cutting edge, possibly even bleeding... I bought mine in the knowledge that there may be some teething problems, but I'm more likely to still have something "current" in 18 months as the 2 year contract nears it's end. There are't many phone's that is true of.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Exactly it will be long while before theres are more powerful phone around and i cant wait to see what devs are cooking
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I came to the One X from a Desire. This is my 3rd HTC mobile and I've loved all of them. I have really enjoyed having the Desire and it's been superb for build quality, reliability and always looked great. Having dozens of lovely roms to play with once it was rooted made all the difference after I became bored with Sense.
So, it was a no brainer for me to choose the One X. Quad core, Tegra 3, that lovely huge, curved screen and ICS were too good to pass up. The phone is stunning and I was most surprised at the looks when I put it beside my Desire. There really is no comparison at all.
It's incredibly fast. I've never used a phone so quick before. The new minimalist Sense is a joy to use and ICS is a great improvement for Android. The screen feels like silk to touch and hasn't attracted much in the way of fingerprints at all. It's lovely to use, very responsive, accurate and image quality is mind blowingly good. Although I don't have the official headphones, Beats Audio does sound fab through a pair of Sennheisers. It ramps up the bass, which is the weakest part of the closed back headphones I have. And so on and on. This mobile is amazing in many ways.
That's the pro's. The con's are:
1. Screen and case don't match up properly. There's a minute gap between the screen and the case along the top and down the left side of mine. This is not normal and classed as a fault by HTC (I asked them). After only 1wk, there's a tiny white strand of cloth under my screen. It can't be seen until the screen is black and it's in the corner. But, as I said to T-Mobile and HTC on the phone today; if it's collected something under the screen after 1wk, what is it going to look like after a few months? HTC said it's a definite fault and should be returned for a replacement. I will be doing so next week.
2. Gripes with the Tegra 3 performance. I know others have seen this on a few games, but for my Desire to easily outperform this phone when playing Stair Dismount is a real disappointment. Secret Exit Ltd answered my request for help earlier very quickly, so I'm really chuffed that a dev is prepared to at least try. I'm not sure whether this is something to do with the game or the phone, so will wait and see. Still a pain though. Interestingly, Stair Dismount also plays very well on my ASUS Transformer, which has Tegra 2.
3. Slight worry about the power button. As the Desire had other hardware buttons, I could assign one of those to wake the phone to take the strain off the power button being used so much. Not possible with this phone. I'm hoping it will be ok.
4. The camera lens cover. If it were Gorilla glass, I'd be happy. If it were recessed enough to not be threatened with being scratched every time I put down my phone, it wouldn't be a problem. So, it begs the question: why the hell did they make the lens cover out of simple glass and the rest of the case out of materials seemingly unbreakable in normal use? Very bad design decision.
5. Lack of external memory could become an issue. Yes, 32Gb is pretty huge. But, so are many of the new games, with 200Mb becoming more common. Not to mention the capability of the phone to play HD content. I also rip music for mobile playing as flac or at least 320k mp3. This makes an album anything up to 800+Mb in size. The internal memory won't take much to fill. None of these are really that big a deal for me, so I'm just being picky with this one!
I've heard various mentions of the battery life being poor on the One X. Considering what this phone does, I'm reasonably happy with having comparable performance as I had with the HTC Desire. Generally, with moderate-heavy use, I'm beginning to think about charging late evening after taking it off charge when I get up in the morning. That's fine by me. I carry a Veho Pebble in my car, so can always put the mobile on charge when I'm out anyway.
I think that's it

leaston said:
I came to the One X from a Desire. This is my 3rd HTC mobile and I've loved all of them. I have really enjoyed having the Desire and it's been superb for build quality, reliability and always looked great. Having dozens of lovely roms to play with once it was rooted made all the difference after I became bored with Sense.
So, it was a no brainer for me to choose the One X. Quad core, Tegra 3, that lovely huge, curved screen and ICS were too good to pass up. The phone is stunning and I was most surprised at the looks when I put it beside my Desire. There really is no comparison at all.
It's incredibly fast. I've never used a phone so quick before. The new minimalist Sense is a joy to use and ICS is a great improvement for Android. The screen feels like silk to touch and hasn't attracted much in the way of fingerprints at all. It's lovely to use, very responsive, accurate and image quality is mind blowingly good. Although I don't have the official headphones, Beats Audio does sound fab through a pair of Sennheisers. It ramps up the bass, which is the weakest part of the closed back headphones I have. And so on and on. This mobile is amazing in many ways.
That's the pro's. The con's are:
1. Screen and case don't match up properly. There's a minute gap between the screen and the case along the top and down the left side of mine. This is not normal and classed as a fault by HTC (I asked them). After only 1wk, there's a tiny white strand of cloth under my screen. It can't be seen until the screen is black and it's in the corner. But, as I said to T-Mobile and HTC on the phone today; if it's collected something under the screen after 1wk, what is it going to look like after a few months? HTC said it's a definite fault and should be returned for a replacement. I will be doing so next week.
2. Gripes with the Tegra 3 performance. I know others have seen this on a few games, but for my Desire to easily outperform this phone when playing Stair Dismount is a real disappointment. Secret Exit Ltd answered my request for help earlier very quickly, so I'm really chuffed that a dev is prepared to at least try. I'm not sure whether this is something to do with the game or the phone, so will wait and see. Still a pain though. Interestingly, Stair Dismount also plays very well on my ASUS Transformer, which has Tegra 2.
3. Slight worry about the power button. As the Desire had other hardware buttons, I could assign one of those to wake the phone to take the strain off the power button being used so much. Not possible with this phone. I'm hoping it will be ok.
4. The camera lens cover. If it were Gorilla glass, I'd be happy. If it were recessed enough to not be threatened with being scratched every time I put down my phone, it wouldn't be a problem. So, it begs the question: why the hell did they make the lens cover out of simple glass and the rest of the case out of materials seemingly unbreakable in normal use? Very bad design decision.
5. Lack of external memory could become an issue. Yes, 32Gb is pretty huge. But, so are many of the new games, with 200Mb becoming more common. Not to mention the capability of the phone to play HD content. I also rip music for mobile playing as flac or at least 320k mp3. This makes an album anything up to 800+Mb in size. The internal memory won't take much to fill. None of these are really that big a deal for me, so I'm just being picky with this one!
I've heard various mentions of the battery life being poor on the One X. Considering what this phone does, I'm reasonably happy with having comparable performance as I had with the HTC Desire. Generally, with moderate-heavy use, I'm beginning to think about charging late evening after taking it off charge when I get up in the morning. That's fine by me. I carry a Veho Pebble in my car, so can always put the mobile on charge when I'm out anyway.
I think that's it
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I think you have it spot on. Luckily I have no issues with my screen and no dust collected anywhere. Using a pouch to keep it nice and safe and it survived a small drop. I don't understand the decision not to make lens from gorilla glass unless its something to do with picture quality. Ordered a flip case as a good work around. I am just debating if I should sell desire or keep as a backup phone
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BarryH_GEG said:
It's not always that simple. There are three types of issues:
1) S/W which is correctable over time. HTC's future rests on the success of the One line so I have confidence the X will be updated as frequently as necessary. A lot of the issues reported seem (to me) to be s/w related.
2) H/W issues which fall in to two categories. The first being random production defects which don’t affect every device equally. The second category is consistent failings that affect every device (like the black One S's coating chipping off). The majority of h/w issues I've seen posted seem to fall in to the first category.
3) Design flaws. The Sensation antenna-gate issue is an example of this. So far the One X doesn't seem to have any of these.
Even with all that's been posted I ordered one that's due to arrive tomorrow. If it performs well, it stays. If it's flaky (beyond what's reasonable for a new device), it goes back.
Everyone's expectations are different and both the happy and unhappy need to be respected.
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Search for HTC One X Antenna Reception Test at Youtube. I have tried it myself and indeed the signal did dropped. Does that count as design flaw?

wcypierre said:
I have tried it myself and indeed the signal did dropped. Does that count as design flaw?
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Seriously? A 10% dBm drop is, in your mind, a "design flaw?" If you're looking for something to be concerned about the YouTube poster's best performance at 89 dBm is pretty atrocious. Two floors away from my router I get better results on my SGS2. The weaker the signal the more any device will be impacted by obstructions (like bone). You'll see drops and gains like that simply by changing the phone's orientation to the router. As devices get thinner with more and more stuffed in to them antenna placement gets more complicated to avoid interference. That video doesn't concern me a bit (unless 89 dBm is typical Wi-Fi performance).

Had mine for 8 days now, it has no rattle that i've noticed, the screen glitches occasinally in browser, it sense restarts fairly often, battery life imo is decent my stats are typical of others. I had a single occasion where died/crashed, no power button or at least not the usual one press so held it and a small dialogue came up after a while saying 'hold for 2 more seconds to restart' which i did and the fone restarted fine, oh and i've had a single overheat whilst streaming a movie.
I had an early release hero which had some serious bugs which improved dramatically and an early desire s which i found pretty much ironed out from the start.
I'm very happy with my one x overall as any issues it has are teething problems which can be sorted.
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[UPDATED][23rd May] All Problems & Issues Listed Here.

UPDATE:
I've got my HTC ONE X yesterday. It's been on full brightness. I've done everything I could to test it. I see no flickering and any other glitches I mentioned in OP.
Hope it stays that way.
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Hi all HOX owners. I hope you all are enjoying your new phone as it's a great phone to have. I've been reading the HOX problems on the internet and have been very keen to know the solutions. Here are my few findings.
Update: Flickering is no more a problem now as people are reporting the latest OTA solves the issue. HTC says it can take upto 14 days but it'd do the job.
PROBLEMS:
> Flickering of the screen.
> Yellow/Orange colour dots.
> Jumping of screen especially near the dock.
> Different colour bands appearing on edges in Camera App. (That don't affect the picture anyway)
> Creaking Sound near the edges of the phone.
> Rainbow like effect while pressing the edges or display for some longer time.
> Gap between the screen and polycarbonate body.
> Sensors not working.
> GPS problems.
>Sense Crashing and sudden reboots.
> Bad reception (fails to catch the signals)
> capacitive buttons stopped working for few.
> Phone constantly being in portrait/landscape mode.
> Phone was perfect at first and then started flickering after a week of use.
> Hear sound of something when vibrating the phone near the ear.
> Phone screen going black and blank.
> Dead Pixel.
> Camera not processing pictures.
> Font size set to 'small' in SMS app will go back to 'medium' after a while on it's own.
> Phone giving a burning smell while it's being charged. (Phone getting hot is normal.)
> Dust under the screen out of box.
> Badly finished metal rim around the screen.
CONCLUSION:
Since it's a flagship phone of HTC I'm really disappointed how the phone has taken the start. It should have broken the records but here we find it simply the opposite. With SGSIII launch around the corner I really see HTC in a big trouble. (Won't go away from HTC anyway; Hate Samsung and it's Touch Wiz UI).
Since this is a flagship phone of HTC I don't really think HTC would let it go easily. We've seen a firmware upgrade recently and hopefully all bugs would be removed within a short time.
----> Please mention in your comments if you've any other issue than these and also the solution, if you have any.
IF YOU HAVE A PERFECT DEVICE OR SWAPPED A FAULTY WITH NEWER AND PERFECT DEVICE THEN:
Please mention your serial number of the phone. (Few initial figures like HT23, HT24)
If you find anything helpful for correcting any bug I'll welcome.
*Hit Thanks button if you think I've posted something useful that'd help people know their devices.*
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mohsinraza said:
Hi all HOX owners. I hope you all are enjoying your new phone as it's a great phone to have. I've been reading the HOX problems on the internet and have been very keen to know the solutions. Here are my few findings.
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Thanks for putting together such an exhaustive list. I'm sure it'll help quite a few people in their troubleshooting.
Since it's a flagship phone of HTC I'm really disappointed how the phone has taken the start. It should have broken the records but here we find it simply the opposite.
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Don't you think you're being a bit extreme? Without question there are some devices that probably shouldn't have passed QC but clearly not every device has every (or any) of the list of issues you outlined. I've only seen two HOX's and both were fine with the exception of one having a warmer display.
With SGSIII launch around the corner I really see HTC in a big trouble.
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This statement assumes the SGS3 will launch without any h/w or s/w issues. Based on the GN launch that's a pretty big leap of faith. Samsung's launch of ICS on the SGS2 has also been fraught with issues. More complex s/w and h/w = more issues that escape in to the wild. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate Samsung products and came from a SGS2 and own a 3G Tab, but they are no more or less exempt from problems than HTC. With the HOX having been out for less than two weeks I think it’s a bit premature to say the sky is falling.
Please mention in your comments if you've any other issue than these and also the solution, if you have any. IF YOU HAVE A PERFECT DEVICE OR SWAPPED A FAULTY WITH NEWER AND PERFECT DEVICE THEN: Please mention your serial number of the phone. (Few initial figures like HT23, HT24)
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Mine's defect free. Gray HT23 from the UK.

Wow that's quite a list.
We only share one thing in common with sense crash and random reboot but mine is flawless otherwise. Not one creak,blemish or screen issue.
Sh23 Made in China
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Just going to point out some flaws in your list...
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PROBLEMS:
> Flickering of the screen.
> Yellow/Orange colour dots. --- iPhone 4S / iPhone 4 had these issues, they subside after using the screen for a while.
> Jumping of screen especially near the dock. fixed in 1.28
> Different colour bands appearing on edges in Camera App. (That don't affect the picture anyway)
> Creaking Sound near the edges of the phone.
> Rainbow like effect while pressing the edges or display for some longer time. -- You have to REALLLY squeeze the edges of the phone to even make this occur - if you pushed down on any LCD screen on a weaker part you'll get these deformation of the liquid crystals.
> Gap between the screen and polycarbonate body.
> Sensors not working.
> GPS problems.
>Sense Crashing and sudden reboots. -- Fixed in 1.28
> Bad reception (fails to catch the signals) -- None of the several HOX's I have encountered (in the UK) have had this issue.
> capacitive buttons stopped working for few.
> Phone constantly being in portrait/landscape mode.
> Phone was perfect at first and then started flickering after a week of use.
> Hear sound of something when vibrating the phone near the ear. -- Small amounts of haptic feedback will cause a short movement that sounds like something is loose. This was also true with the Nexus One and the HTC Sensation (Only phones I have had access to recently)
> Phone screen going black and blank.
> Dead Pixel. -- Common with most phones / screens, but the number of dead pixels are quite low. Simply ask to view the phone before you buy it... Reason you hear about these often are because people are more likely to complain about a dead pixel than a perfect screen!
> Camera not processing pictures. -- Camera only takes a while to process pictures if you take 40+ of the quick shots. This isn't a problem, I mean, you show me something that can take 40 shots in the space of 10 seconds, and then not pause for a while to process all the images and write them to memory!
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I have only commented on the ones that I believe I have some knowledge on!
And, please do point out if I am speaking nonsense with any of my points... My experience is from being an owner of an unbranded White HOX running 1.28 and also from research too!
EDIT: Oh, and my phone is fault-free. Writing from another room that my phone is in, so will post again tomorrow with my s/n. ^^

Yeah not every device is faulty but there's a healthy percentage of users who have issues. I'm not saying I want defect free device on the very first day. I know tgere are issues and are settled down with time but there are some very OBVIOUS bugs are errors that should have been noticed.
I may have gone bit too harsh but I really love this device. Wanna get one soon so not happy the start it has taken.
Hopefully the mixture of these HW & SW bugs are fixed with time.
Sent from my HTC Desire

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Just going to point out some flaws in your list...
I have only commented on the ones that I believe I have some knowledge on!
And, please do point out if I am speaking nonsense with any of my points... My experience is from being an owner of an unbranded White HOX running 1.28 and also from research too!
EDIT: Oh, and my phone is fault-free. Writing from another room that my phone is in, so will post again tomorrow with my s/n. ^^
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Hope it all goes well in near future.
Thanks for correctinge me btw.
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You say a healthy percentage - lots of people will stumble across a forum such as this when their device has an issue. They will then post about their issue, making it sound more 'common' than those without any issues at all - I mean, why bother posting saying "MY DEVICE IS PERFECT!"?
I imagine there has been some sort of QA undertaken by both HTC and the manufacturers, so the %age of defective products per batch is probably really low. My only "beef" as such with the release of the HOX was the apparently rushed Software release, of which most of my "issues" have been dispelled with the release of 1.28.

Rzrr said:
I imagine there has been some sort of QA undertaken by both HTC and the manufacturers, so the %age of defective products per batch is probably really low.
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Yeah this will lower with time. And hopfully all faulty phones are wiped off the markets within a short time.
As the hardware is excellent this phone will be a real beast once the bugs are removed.
EDIT: And if there's an issue it has to be written down and put infront of people. No matter how many of them are common. The point is they exist and someone can face them anytime.
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For that statement to be true you'd have to know how many were sold and somehow extrapolate XDA's users experiences against it. The s/w issues shouldn't be surprising with ICS, Teg3, and Sense 4 being used together for the first time. Of the h/w issues the only one that really seems to impact a lot of people (based on XDA alone) is the display. Specifically defects, color temperature, and how well it's installed in the metal shell.
All of this sucks but doesn't strike me as anything HTC can't address via ongoing s/w updates, improved manufacturing, and better QC. If all the issues were truly that widespread you'd think that at least some of the reviewers test samples would have been affected. It doesn't appear they were.
I got my SGS2 out of the first batch released in the UK last May. The front page of the SGS2 forum was riddled with h/w issues too (USB ports dislodging, light showing through the screen surround, banding and yellow tint on some displays, finger prints on the inside of the display, faulty cameras, dead head phone jacks, just to name a few. They were all resolved over time.
If the front page of the forum still looks the way it does today in May then I'd say HTC has a significant problem. For now it looks pretty much like that of every other high-end product launched in the past six months (that I've tracked).

well well
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Don't you think you're being a bit extreme? Without question there are some devices that probably shouldn't have passed QC but clearly not every device has every (or any) of the list of issues you outlined.
Mine's defect free. Gray HT23 from the UK.
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Hmmm..lmao You should've said this in Prime forums now you know how it feels when you own the device, which works great, and people lump all devices as having the issues listed by others. Sounds like Deja vu here.
Best of luck though to HTC and Nvidia squaring away any possible issues with this phone. IMO, the HTC One X is bada$$. I heard its coming to at&t now. Yes, the international version, HTC One X is said to be coming to America now and At&t will have it. Sounds like this might be the phone I use my upgrade discount on.
Edit: just realized at&t is actually getting the HTC One XL. Which has the S4 snapdragon. I'd rather have a tegra3 in it
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For that statement to be true you'd have to know how many were sold and somehow extrapolate XDA's users experiences against it. The s/w issues shouldn't be surprising with ICS, Teg3, and Sense 4 being used together for the first time. Of the h/w issues the only one that really seems to impact a lot of people (based on XDA alone) is the display. Specifically defects, color temperature, and how well it's installed in the metal shell.
All of this sucks but doesn't strike me as anything HTC can't address via ongoing s/w updates, improved manufacturing, and better QC. If all the issues were truly that widespread you'd think that at least some of the reviewers test samples would have been affected. It doesn't appear they were.
I got my SGS2 out of the first batch released in the UK last May. The front page of the SGS2 forum was riddled with h/w issues too (USB ports dislodging, light showing through the screen surround, banding and yellow tint on some displays, finger prints on the inside of the display, faulty cameras, dead head phone jacks, just to name a few. They were all resolved over time.
If the front page of the forum still looks the way it does today in May then I'd say HTC has a significant problem. For now it looks pretty much like that of every other high-end product launched in the past six months (that I've tracked).
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Shoe is on the other foot now..lol. its cool. I'm sure you're being humbled with this experience and now see what I had to go thru.

demandarin said:
Shoe is on the other foot now..lol. its cool. I'm sure you're being humbled with this experience and now see what I had to go thru.
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You're funny. In a way it's exactly like the Prime's launch. There's a bunch of issues and everyone's trying to figure what's little, what's big, and how many people are affected. Most everything discussed here though is QC and assembly not design and function which were the Prime's biggest issues. Now if HTC announced the One X Infinity next week there would be a lot more in common. The HOX really is an amazing device though (even though the front page may not reflect it).

Please add:
When SMS font size is set to small, after some time, it will go back to medium.
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> Flickering of the screen.
>>no
> Yellow/Orange colour dots.
>>no
> Jumping of screen especially near the dock.
>>no
> Different colour bands appearing on edges in Camera App. (That don't affect the picture anyway)
>>absolutely not..
> Creaking Sound near the edges of the phone.
>>uhh no..
> Rainbow like effect while pressing the edges or display for some longer time.
>>nope
> Gap between the screen and polycarbonate body.
>>not noticeable
> Sensors not working.
>>uhm yeah they do..
> GPS problems.
>>no problems whatsoever
>Sense Crashing and sudden reboots.
>>don't use sense, can't help ya there..
> Bad reception (fails to catch the signals)
>>you just happen to live in an area where the reception simply sucks
> capacitive buttons stopped working for few.
>>they always work, at least for me..
> Phone constantly being in portrait/landscape mode.
>>nah
> Phone was perfect at first and then started flickering after a week of use.
>> 5 days, still nothing..
> Hear sound of something when vibrating the phone near the ear.
>>not really
> Phone screen going black and blank.
>>no
> Dead Pixel.
>>none
> Camera not processing pictures.
are you serious?
hint: flash a custom rom..

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flash a custom rom..
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I won't root the phone btw. I'll use it with stock. Btw I'm yet to own the device. All bugs and issues I posted I've read people shouting out about these.
Update: OP UPDATED with 2 new bugs
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BarryH_GEG said:
For that statement to be true you'd have to know how many were sold and somehow extrapolate XDA's users experiences against it. The s/w issues shouldn't be surprising with ICS, Teg3, and Sense 4 being used together for the first time. Of the h/w issues the only one that really seems to impact a lot of people (based on XDA alone) is the display. Specifically defects, color temperature, and how well it's installed in the metal shell.
All of this sucks but doesn't strike me as anything HTC can't address via ongoing s/w updates, improved manufacturing, and better QC. If all the issues were truly that widespread you'd think that at least some of the reviewers test samples would have been affected. It doesn't appear they were.
I got my SGS2 out of the first batch released in the UK last May. The front page of the SGS2 forum was riddled with h/w issues too (USB ports dislodging, light showing through the screen surround, banding and yellow tint on some displays, finger prints on the inside of the display, faulty cameras, dead head phone jacks, just to name a few. They were all resolved over time.
If the front page of the forum still looks the way it does today in May then I'd say HTC has a significant problem. For now it looks pretty much like that of every other high-end product launched in the past six months (that I've tracked).
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I hope I'm wrong about the words "A healthy percentage..."
This is all what I experienced in last 15 days. But yup you're right on a point.
Why would one say one's device is perfect? Only people with issues will post here and there.
Hopefully every issue is wiped off in near future.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Ive gone through two before getting a refund. I suggest everyone check for dead pixels at http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php . Use the black background and set brightness to max. Do this test in a low lit room and take some time to scan properly for them. They are quite small !!!
PROBLEMS:
> Flickering of the screen.
First handset didn't have this, my second did.
> Yellow/Orange colour dots.
First handset had this, second didn't
> Different colour bands appearing on edges in Camera App. (That don't affect the picture anyway)
> Creaking Sound near the edges of the phone.
Second handset had this.
> Rainbow like effect while pressing the edges or display for some longer time.
> Gap between the screen and polycarbonate body.
again my second handset had this.
> Sensors not working.
> GPS problems.
>Sense Crashing and sudden reboots.
> Bad reception (fails to catch the signals)
> capacitive buttons stopped working for few.
> Phone constantly being in portrait/landscape mode.
> Phone was perfect at first and then started flickering after a week of use.
> Hear sound of something when vibrating the phone near the ear.
> Phone screen going black and blank.
> Dead Pixel.
Both handsets had this, my first had 3 and my second had 2.
> Camera not processing pictures.
> Font size set so 'small' in SMS app will go back to 'medium' after a while on it's own.
> Phone giving a burning smell while it's being charged. (Phone getting hot is normal.)

I think the people think the people that are experiencing all those problems are less that 1%
Probably 99% of the people have experience maybe 1 of the things on the list but most of the time just ONCE and if it repeats they change their units.
This phone is the best phone I have owned in a long time and I have experienced a few of those issues but maybe once or twice but thats it.
Im sure ALOT of other brands experience very similar issues, especially in the beginning of the launch of a new product.
Image this phone in 6 months from now, im sure the software will have matured alot and become more awesome than it already is.
And when it comes to specs it seems this phone is a pretty good competitor with the SGIII.
Also HTC has an OFFICIAL webpage for you to unlock your device for full customer satisfaction, i think thats pretty awesome, and many people forget that you does NOT void you HARDWARE warranty only software (unless your phone is branded) or if it is software related issue that you have casued and if you don't know the slightest bit about flashing roms and overclocking then you should not even be there in the first place.
I think the phone is full of potential and will get better and better

So... Any updates? The users who swapped their phones got something to cheer about or it's just that there is gonna be another replacement?
Sent from my HTC Desire

mmm my first handset was perfect except had a tiny scratch under the gorilla glass and two imperfections to the polycarbonate shell, china, singapore region
second handset was flexing on the left+gap+lcd ripple+slightly less bright screen (yellowness/spots went away in one week) and more edge light bleed than usual, made me realize the gorilla glass isn't laminated well so had to go, taiwan HT242, south african region / euro firmware
my cousin has taiwan HT23 made for france region / euro firmware, perfect brightest screen like described in the review, just slight creak on the top right corner of the glass but its fit perfectly
another one sold to his friend the same code/region/build as my cousin's didn't even make a noise on shake, perfect in every way
they all heat depending on your usage and firmware, on 1.26 used to heat bad on heavy wifi use plus charger, they all have glitches
im hunting a perfect one for me all the others we sold to people who didnt care about this stuff
dont blame us guys for complaining this way more defects/imperfections rate than the usual, been buying HTC since the diamond
HTC stopped producing the Legend too soon if you all remember, lets hope it won't happen here...

I feel sorry to all that are experiencing problems with their device. I feel you. To those potential buyers and future owners of the One X, DONT feel discouraged about these issues.
Id say 99% of these devices are fine, a very mall minority have these issues. And its the same with any other device out there.
Mine's an early batch (i think). Preordered it and got it April 4th. Am i lucky that i got a problem free One X? NO. Because that's how the phone should be (and any other device for that matter).
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

How warm is your warm display? (colour)

Just got a One X and thankfully all the reported 'defects' don't seem to be there. However the screen colours are far too warm. The biggest problem is with flesh tones looking very reddish. Its best illustrated by taking a picture of my hand with the camera, which shows up very red indeed. However if I import the picture to my PC its acceptable. My screen is Acer which supposedly runs colder than Sharp and Sony, but thats not my case.
Should I exchange my unit? I have 48hours to return the phone with no questions asked. Its perfect otherwise and I heard that the warmness disappears over time. If true, how long does it take for the warmness to normalize. Also is there a software available now or in the near future that would solve this (rom, mod, etc.)?
PS> I'm still on 1.28.415.9 because I haven't received an update yet.

I just tried using "Screen Adjuster" from the Play Store, but the results were horrible. I really need to know whether the warmness subsides overtime because otherwise I have a perfect unit and don't wanna gamble it away for a creaky, ripply, dead pixel unit.

I passed by the store and compared my phone to the two display models and a sealed unit. All three had the excessive red hue warm colors as mine. When I say excessive I mean very excessive. Its best viewed with the Mirror application. It almost makes me look like I'm fluorescent pink Almost the color of this icon.
Someone please chime in. How red do you look in the Mirror app?

I'm begging here, someone please acknowledge my existence and answer my simple question. Does the Mirror app make you look red/pink like your are badly sunburned?
SOMEONE PULLLLLEAHSE ANSWER

Hello, i just tried and have the same problem.
I didn't try outside on daylight ...
Looks like my skin is too vascularised ...

DanRZ said:
Hello, i just tried and have the same problem.
I didn't try outside on daylight ...
Looks like my skin is too vascularised ...
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Thanks so much for answering me. Vascularised is a great way of putting it. I can almost see the blood flowing through my capillaries. I hope this is just a software issue. Outside in daylight its much much better.

HTC should have added a light in front panel.
And after "vascularised" it has a litlle "drunk" effect.
After ZombieBooth, HTC just invented DrunkBooth ...

I tested the front camera some more using Skype. It seems that there are two reasons for the red hue. The camera software is messed up, and so is the screen itself. When using Skype the image from the front camera looks very red on the phone, but it doesn't look as bad on the PC (although still red). This leads me to believe that the camera software is not calibrated, and the screen further compounds the problem. I'm hoping 1.29 update will help a bit.

I just ordered this phone as lost my optimistic 3d. If this is a problem with all sets I can't understand its not mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen. Hopefully means forward is a bit messed up

maxcovergold said:
I just ordered this phone as lost my optimistic 3d. If this is a problem with all sets I can't understand its not mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen. Hopefully means forward is a bit messed up
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Well as far as I'm concerned I have not seen, or heard of, any One X unit that doesn't have this problem. So far I have personally examined 6 phones that have this problem (all worse than my phone). Also three XDA users have also confirmed this (one on this thread and two in other threads). I have yet to see or hear that a One X exists out there which does not have an extremely red hued front camera.
Until someone confirms otherwise, it seems to me to affect ALL One X's.

In camera settings, put the saturation to -1, this looks far more realistic. However, I don't know if it looks the same on another device as is does for me. For all I know, it could be making my hand white for the pc.
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In camera settings, put the saturation to -1, this looks far more realistic. However, I don't know if it looks the same on another device as is does for me. For all I know, it could be making my hand white for the pc.
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Thanks that helps a bit. I'm sure HTC will have to fix up the camera software in an upcoming update because this is just unacceptable.

Thinking of trading my s4 in for something else...

Had my s4 for about two weeks and I've only encountered problems with it. It scratches easily, the screen smearing in the settings, the screen flickering when opening and closing the keyboard on low brightness, the stuttering when opening and closing apps and swiping left to right on the home screen, the pixels looking terrible when watching a movie scene in low lighting. Im disappointed in Samsung. A quad core device shouldnt have all of these problems. Especially if we're shelling out 630 dollars for these phones.
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I traded my HTC One on craigslist for this Galaxy S4 and I didnt have any of those problems.
I had one dead pixel, called tmobile and they sent me a brand new S4 to my house to swap out becaue of the dead pixel.
Not sure why your having so many problems.

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Had my s4 for about two weeks and I've only encountered problems with it. It scratches easily, the screen smearing in the settings, the screen flickering when opening and closing the keyboard on low brightness, the stuttering when opening and closing apps and swiping left to right on the home screen, the pixels looking terrible when watching a movie scene in low lighting. Im disappointed in Samsung. A quad core device shouldnt have all of these problems. Especially if we're shelling out 630 dollars for these phones.
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i could agree with you on the smearing but other than that i havent faced any of the other issues you mention, and regarding scratches are you talking about the screen or the back cover?

jax5ter said:
i could agree with you on the smearing but other than that i havent faced any of the other issues you mention, and regarding scratches are you talking about the screen or the back cover?
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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.

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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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i am not sure if you have noticed this but the bezzle more like around the side of the phone where the aluminum body is has a plastic film covering all around (you have to look closely) , maybe the film is scratched try peeling that off and see if you notice the scratches anymore.

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i am not sure if you have noticed this but the bezzle more like around the side of the phone where the aluminum body is has a plastic film covering all around (you have to look closely) , maybe the film is scratched try peeling that off and see if you notice the scratches anymore.
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Lol yeah I know i took it off a while ago

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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
I get the lag from swiping left to right when touch wiz first loads, it is smooth after that. Try another launcher if you don't like that as that is touch wiz only, not the hardware. Or wait for a custom kernel.
Or get the HTC One which is nearly the same hardware aside from the screen. Or sell and try the ASOP S4?
Your post gives off an air of trying to bring others down with you. Not sure how successful you will be with that here. There are alot of ppl who like there phones on this forum

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I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
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Amen to that! I traded my s2 for the s4 and the worst issues I get are lint and a crash here or there from playing Ravensword 2 while keeping other apps open (which is my own fault). Are you able to have your phone replaced? Cause it sounds like they sold you a returned phone by mistake or intentionally
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To protect any scratches I use 2 cases. One flip cover to protect screen and another gel case outside it to protect edges. And its not bulky at all.
I am going to order s view case with extra holding (no need to change back cover ) to replace this combination.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda premium

it's there a slim non bulky kickstand case yet? I know to look on Amazon or eBay but do anyone have personal recommendations?
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I think its your phone dude, I don't have any of those issues minus the slightest amount of lag when wiz kicks in. Return it, tell them it stopped turning on, no Samsung boot screen, nothing, that way they don't run you through a million troubleshooting steps.
Everyone here loves their phone, I think you need to just be patient and wait for devs to make some ROM tweaks and it'll blow the HTC One out of the water...

Futant said:
I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
I get the lag from swiping left to right when touch wiz first loads, it is smooth after that. Try another launcher if you don't like that as that is touch wiz only, not the hardware. Or wait for a custom kernel.
Or get the HTC One which is nearly the same hardware aside from the screen. Or sell and try the ASOP S4?
Your post gives off an air of trying to bring others down with you. Not sure how successful you will be with that here. There are alot of ppl who like there phones on this forum
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Not trying to bring any one down with me. I'm expressing my experience with the s4. I love it but there are a lot of issues.

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I think its your phone dude, I don't have any of those issues minus the slightest amount of lag when wiz kicks in. Return it, tell them it stopped turning on, no Samsung boot screen, nothing, that way they don't run you through a million troubleshooting steps.
Everyone here loves their phone, I think you need to just be patient and wait for devs to make some ROM tweaks and it'll blow the HTC One out of the water...
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Thanks, I actually posted this so someone could help change my mind about sending it back.

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Thanks, I actually posted this so someone could help change my mind about sending it back.
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Well I hope we change your mind man, the more people with these phones is more incentive for the devs to work on them!!

I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.

Mass hysteria. Can't wait for this device. Switching to T-Mobile tomorrow =]
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Bless the unicorns, I don't have these issues. Any of them aside from touchwiz lagging after a reboot. I've turned my brightness all the way down and used the stick keyboard, Swiftkey and Swype with zero flickering; I've watched videos with no issues and examined several grey panels desperately trying to find faults and coming up blank.

i4mt3hwin said:
I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
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Like I said before, warranty your device. Smearing and audio crackling are a known issue but only on certain batches mailed out. Surely, future ROMS will have audio patches to fix that but the screen is internal, obviously. We haven't figured out what caused it or who all has the issue but its a known thing. I wont speak on behalf of T-Mobile but being an employee I recommend just to tell them it randomly boots or doesn't power on at all; so you don't have to go through a million troubleshooting steps.
Just don't do the OTA when you get it lol

i4mt3hwin said:
I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
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THANK YOU. +10000 I definitely LOVE my s4, but these problems are VERY annoying. My OCD is making me want to return it. Apple has definitely won the war of UI smoothness.

dannyyyyy said:
THANK YOU. +10000 I definitely LOVE my s4, but these problems are VERY annoying. My OCD is making me want to return it. Apple has definitely won the war of UI smoothness.
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Well Apple has a couple of distinct advantages in that area. For starters they only have to worry about their hardware. So they can optimize all their software, SDK's, drivers, etc all for their one device. They also prioritize the graphics above everything else on the phone. Nothing short of a kernel panic is going to make the graphics hiccup/jitter in iOS. These two examples apply to other areas as well, like their audio processing latency being so low. Despite what people here say, the iPhone is definitely a sweet device.
That being said, if you haven't already you should try the HTC One. The LCD screen doesn't suffer from the same problems the AMOLED does. The interface is also much smoother. Plus you get better front facing speakers. You obviously trade off SD Card (which was one of the reasons I didn't get the One), replaceable battery, the S-Features if you like them, etc. But overall I think the One is a better experience if little things bother you.
You can try trading in your S4, but you're probably just going to end up like me, trading it and receiving a device with the same problems back.