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returning my amaze for s2

I'm going to return my new amaze that I got on jan. 11 for s2, and I have 2 cases still coming for the amaze. So, did I make the right decision?

If you tried a galaxy s2 and liked it more than the amaze, yes.

elbarto7 said:
I'm going to return my new amaze that I got on jan. 11 for s2, and I have 2 cases still coming for the amaze. So, did I make the right decision?
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Why are you returning the Amaze?

I like the bigger display and battery life of the s2. and also I had the g2 and mt4g, I want to try samsung and tw 4.0.

i love the amaze. you will be sacrificing sense's sexyness, camera buttons, led lights, screen resolution, build quality, great feel in hand, camera quality.

g1user101 said:
i love the amaze. you will be sacrificing sense's sexyness, camera buttons, led lights, screen resolution, build quality, great feel in hand, camera quality.
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All good points, but to be Devil's Advocate:
-Senes Sexyness vs TW4.0 smoothness and much more functional
-Led Light, um, notification light? Just use BLN (Back Light Notification). If your talking Camera LED then yes, it has 2 instead of 1 but this goes under Camera. See Camera comments below.
-Screen Resolution vs 10 times more brilliant display and larger display. As a former Sensation owner trust me, you won't miss the slightly higher resolution.
-Build quality, just because it's metal doesn't mean its better. My SGSII has hit the concrete twice, my wood floor once and my tile floor twice. Zero issus here. Solid as a rock and would go head to head with a metal casing any day.
-Amaze felt BULKY to me in my hand when I had one. Sensation actually felt better in my hand than the Amaze. I had an Amaze for a couple weeks testing it before you say I haven't messed with one.
-Camera, well, yeah, it's the ONLY advantage, IMO, over the SGSII. Camera does take better pictures and you do have that ever annoying (uneeded) button on the side!
Don't get me wrong, the amaze is a beautiful phone and Sense is much more refined but the SGSII gets the job done better and faster. Again, just my .02.

You pumped me up setzer!
also, phonedog and technobuffalo gave the edge to sgs2.

elbarto7 said:
You pumped me up setzer!
also, phonedog and technobuffalo gave the edge to sgs2.
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I love the build quality of the amaze I just don't dig sense.

- I personally find it much easier to minimize the effects of touchwiz compared to sense (and I find sense ugly). Unless either device ever has perfect CM9 support (which is a huge questionmark and may take a while), I have to assume I'll be running a rom based on stock, and it's just easier to strip out most of touchwiz. Even if you do the same to sense I find the phone is still inexplicably slower than a true AOSP build, whereas this isn't as true with touchwiz. Sense somehow has the capability to make perfectly fine hardware just incredibly laggy
- I prefer the design of the SGSII (especially the battery cover, which I find very study and on every htc phone I've handled has been flimsy to some degree) and like the screen more than the Amaze, even though the latter is higher res. If it were a 720p screen it'd be a different story, but they're close enough for me
- The cameras both seem close enough in quality, although the amaze certainly has an edge it's slight. it's nothing like say, the gap between the sensation or iphone 4 (not 4S) and SGSII
tldr: it comes down to whether or not you like Sense or Touchwiz imo. it's a damn shame we don't have more basically AOSP phones to choose from

billobob said:
- I personally find it much easier to minimize the effects of touchwiz compared to sense (and I find sense ugly). Unless either device ever has perfect CM9 support (which is a huge questionmark and may take a while), I have to assume I'll be running a rom based on stock, and it's just easier to strip out most of touchwiz. Even if you do the same to sense I find the phone is still inexplicably slower than a true AOSP build, whereas this isn't as true with touchwiz. Sense somehow has the capability to make perfectly fine hardware just incredibly laggy
- I prefer the design of the SGSII (especially the battery cover, which I find very study and on every htc phone I've handled has been flimsy to some degree) and like the screen more than the Amaze, even though the latter is higher res. If it were a 720p screen it'd be a different story, but they're close enough for me
- The cameras both seem close enough in quality, although the amaze certainly has an edge it's slight. it's nothing like say, the gap between the sensation or iphone 4 (not 4S) and SGSII
tldr: it comes down to whether or not you like Sense or Touchwiz imo. it's a damn shame we don't have more basically AOSP phones to choose from
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HTC sense can rip the fastest device apart. I don't know why HTC wont tone it down they had problems updating the HTC desire and they continue to pile more sh*t on top of it at this point they have their own OS on top of another OS makes no sense for sense.

You made a choice that only goes to personal preference, I had the amaze for a couple weeks and I prefer it the camera isn't a little better it's a lot better, the screen res is much better and sharper, dedicated camera keys, led notifications without need of bln, sense has features that touchwiz doesn't compare to. This all leads me to the amaze for me is better but I could see the galaxy s 2 has good advantages too bigger screen even tho res sucks, brighter more colorful, thinner, battery life is superb, and the lightness of the os making the phone operate faster. Only thing to note is judging by how far the sensation was in ics development when the build leaked, and how similiar they are the amaze may see ics a lot sooner but thats just speculation same can be said about the world galaxy s 2 variant even though internals are different.
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I was never all that amazed by the amaze. Sense seems really bulky but i like that its themeable.
Ive used HTC phones before and ive always found them bulky and heavy. Its just their style and it doesnt jive with me.

So, I went to try a Galaxy S III earlier...

I have a few annoyances with my One X so I went to try out an S3 with high hopes seeing as it's been getting a lot of praise.
Thoughts -
Looks & design: The S3 is so ugly it's criminal. Samsung must have the worst designers in the world. It felt like a cheap, plastic toy, too. Awful.
The camera: The software seemed worse for the camera and the pictures didn't seem as good as my X.
The video: Again, virtually no different to the X here.
The screen: Well, what can one say. The X screen blows the GS3 screen out of the water. The AMOLED really looks dated now, aside from the black levels which are rarely seen anyway by most people. The colours are better on the LCD and it's noticeably sharper.
The software: TouchWiz is just plain horrible. It's possibly the worst designed software in the world, despite feeling snappy.
Performance: Virtually no differences here, both fast and smooth.
Audio quality: It looks like they've used the lowest end Wolfson DAC in the S3, the audio didn't sound good at all. I thought this would be a stand out point, but it wasn't.
The battery life reports only seem to be marginally better than the X from what I can see... so no real benefit here.
Have I missed something or have the Samsung fanboys just convinced themselves the S3 is good to try and cover up their disappointments? HTC have done a far better job in my opinion and they got here months in advance.

Lmao. You're definitely a fanboy.
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barondebxl said:
Lmao. You're definitely a fanboy.
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You gotta agree the S3 is ugly as sin though

The least unbiased post one can read lol

mudtail said:
You gotta agree the S3 is ugly as sin though
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LOL!
having seen an S3 in real life, I've got to admit its not that bad, but nothing inspiring and nothing new.
What I really wonder about is samsung's cohesion between the departments, their marketing is going on about this made for humans thing, and stuff about nature, so the phone is more rounded like a pebble and even the live wallpapers are nature themed. Why then did they put this chrome edge all around the phone and why does the blue one have this faux brushed metal look? just doesn't look like it was all properly thought through.

electric0ant said:
LOL!
having seen an S3 in real life, I've got to admit its not that bad, but nothing inspiring and nothing new.
What I really wonder about is samsung's cohesion between the departments, their marketing is going on about this made for humans thing, and stuff about nature, so the phone is more rounded like a pebble and even the live wallpapers are nature themed. Why then did they put this chrome edge all around the phone and why does the blue one have this faux brushed metal look? just doesn't look like it was all properly thought through.
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Good point. When I looked at the phone, it just didn't seem nature-like to me... Or looking like a pebble. It would have been better to take on a spaceship thing. Haven't taken it for a spin yet so can't comment on the software... Except that from what I see on blogs and videos... Well, I hate Touchwiz.
Designwise... The One X blows it overthe edge.
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ladyhaly said:
Good point. When I looked at the phone, it just didn't seem nature-like to me... Or looking like a pebble. It would have been better to take on a spaceship thing. Haven't taken it for a spin yet so can't comment on the software... Except that from what I see on blogs and videos... Well, I hate Touchwiz.
Designwise... The One X blows it overthe edge.
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I think if they had given it a matte finish like the one x it would be more pebble like.

audio is made using Wolfson Micro WM1811 which is
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
analysis by François SIMOND aka supercurio
I do personally think (i had i9000) that HTC One X makes better sound when pushed volume to the limit

You are definitely wrong. I managed to play around a demo unit of GS3 for about an hour and compare it with my brother HOX.
GS3 feels better on hand because of the round shape.
The back cover feels like cheap plastic but luckily front face looks extremely good and high quality.
Unlike GS3, HOX screen's glass pops out above the bezel which looks a bit awkward. HOX screen is just 4.7inc but feel very big because the whole front face is cover by glass.
SAmoled HD screen is very good and comparable to HOX screen.
Sound quality on GS3 is definitely better and louder than HOX.
GS3 camera though not as sharp as HOX, it has better contrast. To be honest, looking pictures on GS3 is more enjoyable than HOX.
Touchwiz improve a lot and feel lighter. Sense 4 on the hand, still laggy and feels like a downgrade from Sense 3.5
Removable battery and sd slot is a big plus for GS3.
Playing just an hour with GS3 but it makes me feel enjoyable and feel like there a lot of surprised in this device that I yet to find out. HOX is a bit boring. I just play HOX for less than half an hour and feel nothing new.
Just my opinion. Don't take it seriously
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mudtail said:
You gotta agree the S3 is ugly as sin though
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I disagree I love the pebble blue version.

Designed from a pebble WTF Does the owner of Samsung got a collection of pet rocks That phone is freakin UGLY, I hope they enjoy their pebble phone while my super smooth HOX looks AMAZING and runs AMAZING! No defects so don't come in here and start that sh^t like you are talking in your thread on ur forum, those were early batches, they fixed that issue. Actually my ONE X is an early version SH23 defect free made in China, looks great.
They got a thread over there at there rock nest about 100 pages comparing the S3 and One X.

some people will love it some will hate it im in the hate it category I think its ugly as sin, but then its a good thing that I dont have one then

It's been 10 day with my first android mobile gotta say its blown me away, my 4s is packed away eBay soon. Didn't choose the s3 because all Samsung phones feel way to cheap and doesn't look as good as the X. So what if the s3 has better benchmarks its not like the X isnt a beast
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mafia187 said:
So what if the s3 has better benchmarks its not like the X isnt a beast
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Quoted for truth.
Been using the One X and SIII parallel for a week now. There is no way the SIII can match One X's screen, camera and design.
But apart of that, the SIII takes it all. From the extendable memory over the heat problem while gaming and especially in battery life. That even on stock battery and I'll get an extended one soon. Did I mention, there is no locked or halfassed unlockable bootloader?
After a week of using both, if I had to stick with only one of them, I'd go with the SIII for sure.
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i neither love nor hate the design of galaxy s3 its okey dokey. Samsung is very good for hardware but they sucks when it comes to software. So this time i got HTC One x (my first htc phone). Previously i had a smasung device (samsung wave - its a bada pone) and what the hell i have to wait for whole year for official upgrade Thats kinda sucks.

Sigh wish people would stop trying to justify their buy by attacking the other phone, its like two friends dating sisters.
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this thread is waiting to be locked. hehehehe...peace!

Thank god we all have different tastes, I like blondes and you like red heads ;-)
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You know what I am gettin sick and tired of these threads. Search first. So many threads exactly as this that has been shut down. You could get your answers there. Try the main general thread to. Many people are talking about the phone. From now on if I see threads like yours will be reporting. Pointless. Make your own judgement or watch on YouTube comparison videos.
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I'm a HTC fanboy arguably, however I disagree and agree with you. Here's my thoughts on the GSIII versus HOX:
Software: Sense 4.0 is certainly better than TouchWiz and there really is no arguing about it. It's things like the ability to set Scene's and Theme's and get a real personalization of your phone. On the other hand TouchWiz feels snappier, but it's starting to feel dates. It's extremely lightweight and barebones and the killer for me is that it doesn't offer much more functionality than Vanilla ICS, therefore why bother. The Keyboard and Messaging application on the One X is much more useable and better looking than the GSIII and the Mail application is bliss compares to the GSIII too.
Design: The GSIII design is really dates in the respect that you could erase all branding of 'Samsung' from the GSI AND GSIII, but if you put then alongside you would still be able to guess one was the others successor. With the One X and Sensation, there's not much that looks the same. The buttons have changed, the Camera location etc, which brings me to a flaming. Who the hell at HTC was allowed go design a raised camera lens? Put the thing down on a table and it scratches SO easy!
Camera: I don't think there's much in here for either of them, both phones use 8 MP sensors and I must say myself, I'm not really into camera's. If anything I'm slightly disappointed that both companies failed to improve either camera. The One X uses an 8 MP like the Sensation (despite being a different camera) and the GSIII uses the exact same Camera as the GSII, which in my experience wasn't actually that good. When it comes to the camera at least HTC have made a slight improvement by bumping the camera to 1.3 MP, however for some reason Samsung downgraded theirs, the GSII used a 2.0 MP sensor where as the GSIII uses a 1.x MP sensor.
The whole 'designed by nature' thing just goes right over me. I'm sorry but it looks like a bus run over a clay mould of a GSII and the GSIII is the stretched & curved result. The hardware buttons (as in the Menu button specifically and Hone) are well out of date in the respect that the One X no longer uses a Menu button, however the GSIII has that physical Hone button and the Menu button, basically a 2011 phone design.
Overall I think the Samsung GSIII is an extremely over hyped phone. It is ugly, but then it's old looks. I think the only thing to shout about is the processor, which is arguable better than the HOX's, however where are you really going ti ever see that improved speed? This may seem biased, but it's just my personal opinion.
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The HTC One X is a fantastic phone - My Screens

Despite what many may say, I know the OneX has it's issues but putting them aside I have got to seriously say this is one awesome phone and I've owned pretty much a ****load of tech over the years.
Some people have had some issues with screen or battery or whatever, but that's just the way these things are, whether its a phone or an xbox 360 or a tv screen or whatever, electronics aren't always perfect as much as we want them to be just like maybe your girlfriend or wife lol.
I can't put the phone down, my battery drains only because I'm always playing with it, the gorgeous screen, the beautiful white body, putting all the issues aside I just love this phone!!
I've played with the Galaxy S3 and I was disgusted at the UI (albeit innovative), it is fugly. when I look at the One X, god Sense is actually quite beautiful and innovative in it's own way. Not to mention the weak ugly back plastic cover which you could fold over a few times, all qualities that I dislike for some reason and I'm sure I'm not the minority here
Forget benchmarks, I've played Nova 3, Mass Effect, 9mm, Backstab, Asphalt, Modern Combat 3, GTA3 to name a few and all the games are gorgeous and run really well with no lag!
P.s. In case anyone is wondering, I'm using ChompSMS with a custom theme

I agree on the UI front. Having had previous Samsung devices and played a lot with the Galaxy Note the whole UI is fugly compared to Sense.
Albeit the Galaxy range of phones are great as well. Both UIs works well with each having their own unique features.
HOX is a lovely phone on it's own rights. Improved upon with custom roms.
The screen as well, not tried the SGS3 yet but compared to the Note I like the natural colours of the HOX and the whites.

I have to agree. If you have no hardware faults then this phone is amazing. I have one minor one that I will have to get used to. When actually using the phone its amazing.
How did you get Modern combat on you're one x ?
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i emailed gameloft and they sent me a modified apk, but apparently theirs ways to decompile apk to bypass checks that someone posted the other day
(do not message me asking for apk)

I'm hoping Nova2 and PvZ gets an update
Other than that I agree! It's a great phone! Just got my second one in and so far so good (got it unlocked and CWM restored the data from my old phone so I was up and running in no time!).
Right now it's updating all those apps and podcasts I missed while the new one was in the mail.
Not too concerned with the QC issues. Both Apple laptops I've bought with my own money and my N900 had to be sent back RMA'd. This is the first time I've been able to send it back to the retailer for an exchange so things are on the up and up! My old Nexus S should have been sent in (Dust under the FCC) but I just resolved myself to taking it apart every month or so and cleaning it out. Since then, however, I'm planning to resist the urge to dismantle my phones. Just not good on my blood pressure.

mox123 said:
Despite what many may say, I know the OneX has it's issues but putting them aside I have got to seriously say this is one awesome phone and I've owned pretty much a ****load of tech over the years.
I can't put the phone down, my battery drains only because I'm always playing with it, the gorgeous screen, the beautiful white body, putting all the issues aside I just love this phone!!
I've played with the Galaxy S3 and I was disgusted at the UI (albeit innovative), it is fugly. when I look at the One X, god Sense is actually quite beautiful and innovative in it's own way.
Forget benchmarks, I've played Nova 3, Mass Effect, 9mm, Backstab, Asphalt, Modern Combat 3, GTA3 to name a few and all the games are gorgeous!
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This 100%
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Absolutely.. 100% agree..
Have today played with SIII in my hands.. no need to argue, OneX is the undisputable winner, phone of the year / to date. Slightly better performance measurements in some benchmarks (besides some shows OneX better, and some SIII), or 2 hrs more battery time is nothing considering with the built quality and awesome look, especially look at the left side of the SIII, metal(!) frame and metal volume rocker on that side sounds like cheap, bad quality toys.
Will not mention on TouchWizz UI, just in short, menus look like gingerbread though it is ICS 4.0.4
Also IPS SuperLCD2 is way much better than SuperAmoled HD when it comes to being closer to real/natural colors. Why Samsung played with blue subpixels and made them smaller in SIII's pentile matrix? apparently upon listening to criticism they got from public (read as customers plz) + (still cold but a tad warmer in comparison to its predecessors)
check this...
http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/04/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-vs-htc-one-x-video/
Forget everything you have read abt those devices so far, benchmarks, comparisons, others opinions etc. even mines above and just think that you have OneX in one hand and SIII in another, compare these two badboys and say, which one you would prefer to go with? at least two years or even longer from purchase?

Used gs3 yesterday and disappointed with its performance and colour.
So far HTC is best in its user interface and style.
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Every phone has its issues.
The HTC One X is a very beautifull designed phone, the best you can buy right now to my opinion.
mox123 said:
Despite what many may say, I know the OneX has it's issues
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When I first played with the One X in a store I was blown away and soon bought one.
I went into a store and played with the SGSIII the other day and was left underwhelmed.
Yes, there are a couple of nice touches in Touch Wiz (I watched a long review on youtube) but the feel of it, the look of the device and the screen just left me 'meh'.
Just didnt feel right in the hand and looks like a kids toy TBH….cheap?
I dunno, maybe having a couple of HTC devices before (Hero and Desire S) and then a couple of Blackberrys conditioned me to liking well built and well designed handsets, not airfix models, lol
Steve

Got a link to that wallpaper? That looks fantastic

Shadowgun THD and Riptide both look fantastic on this amazing beast .
Get the Zedge app from store .some great wallpapers on there

i agree, I have also chosen HTC One X over SGS III, simply because of the beautiful build quality, and while I normally prefer Super AMOLED screens, the display used on the One X is just spectacularly good. SGS III was completely overhyped, and with the high expectations people had, it turned out to be "just another android phone"
I will stick with my One X, and Android Revolution HD

I agreed this is indeed beautiful phone. No regret
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I waited for the release of the SGS III before deciding which to go for--- SGS III or HOX.
HOX won me over. The Touchwiz UI was a huge turn off and so was the build quality. I hate companies who make up too much of a hype whose products are overrated. I was extremely disappointed with the SGS III.
HOX, on the other hand, impressed me by a far margin. It was like the company scrapped everything from last year and started anew.
HOX is exactly the flagship I've been looking for.
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I agree 100%

I have to agree, it took me a few days to get used to the HOX but I am extremely happy now!
I come from a Samsung Captivate and Samsung Galaxy S2 so my natural things was to upgrade to the SGS3 but I wanted so bad to try another brand. I was waiting forever for a decent Sony but their software suck badly.
Then came the HOX and I jumped in (white one Tegra). At first I have to be honest, I was underwhelmed by the level of blacks (coming from AMOLED and SAMOLED) but oh boy was I wrong, this has to be the most amazing display out there.
Also after a dose of Android Revolution, APM, 3 dot fix and UltraSmooth Rosie this phone flies!!!!
As a bonus I do like Sense very much, not feeling the need to run to ICS/Apex as I did with the horrible TW on my SGS2.

I just got my One X 5 days ago and like to give it a mini review.
Body and build quality: In my personal opinion, the HOX is the BEST LOOKING SMARTPHONE OF ALL TIME. Nuff said.
Screen: Never seen anything like this before on a smartphone, excellent viewing angles, nice warm and accurate colors, text very very sharp, outdoor visibility is incredible. Only complain is that it's easy to scratch the screen.
Call quality: pretty good but not the best
Battery life: it's ok, could be better. It almost doesn't use any juice when it's in idle but soon as you start using it you lose like 5% so I don't know. Wished HTC would have been more generous considering this is non removable ( razr maxx?) still after 5 days of using it, I can see the battery improving cause of calibration.
Performance: good, not mind blowing. Does stutter from time to time. Gaming is awesome, no complaints there, browsing is nice but again could be better ( SGSIII?).
Multitasking: not that much of a deal breaker as I thought, not the best obviously but i definitely can live with it. I do like the transition effect when you enter an app or when you press the recent app button and scroll though them, very slick. Just wished you could see more than one app at a time ( stock ICS?)
Audio and speakers: audio is good, beats does enhance sound but a little gimmicky. Speaker is kinda weak in my opinion, although its pretty clear.
Camera: I won't lie, I hardly use the camera on my phone so can't tell but from the few pics I took I love it. But I'm easy to please in that area that's just me
Sense 4.0: MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER than previous versions, less bloated, like how you manage widgets. Don't like the fact that there's a million clock widgets, a million calculator widgets. Wtf HTC?
I think that's pretty much it. The HOX in my opinion, is a fantastic device. I've never seen a better looking device in my life, the screen is amazing especially outdoor visibility. Performance is quite good and battery life is getting better. HTC is heading in the right direction after disappointing releases like the sensation and evo 3D. They've listened to people and toned down sense, which looks as gorgeous as ever by the way. I wish HTC was making their own SoC so they can match it well with android and sense and make it runs super smooth and give it excellent battery life. Still the one x is a fantastic phone and I would recommend it to anybody. Peace!

started the weekend buying the s3 then exchanged for another s3. extremely happy to be finally with a onex. the s3 was nice but felt very fragile. wasn't happy with 2g reception.wouldn't connect to the internet on 2g.may have been a carrier issue.decided to change carrier and phone. reception issue solved .still 2g but have internet connections albeit slow. 3g performance excellent. but most important the phone just feels right.i use a gel case on my phones and had one on the s3 also but the X just feels better. sense is still far better than touchwiz.had wanted to give the s3 a try as i have a tp2 and a titan but once again i find the user experience with htc just that bit better.

HTC Desire Eye mini review

So, I picked up a Desire Eye on launch day. I feel like I was one of the few people intrigued by this device when it was announced. Since then, it has received almost zero attention: Few reviews, no posts on XDA, very little buzz on the internet in general. So, if you're even remotely considering this device and want a little info, here's a personal perspective from someone who bought the phone.
Disclaimer: I have owned dozens of flagship phones over the last several years. I'm also quite a fan of Sense UI and HTC in general. I did not buy this phone for the front facing camera. I don't care about selfies, so I'm probably not the target audience. I really just wanted an M8 with a better camera.
Display
The display is probably my one gripe about the device so far. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it looks washed out to me. When I first turned it on in the store, it immediately looked dull. A lot of the HTC wallpapers and themes are a sort of pastel, so it's really hard to tell, but next to my iPhone 6 Plus, and even a Windows M8 in the store, it just doesn't look as vibrant as I'd expect. Compared to my Note 4, it looks positively depressing, but that's to be expected. That said, it does get plenty bright. I just wish I still had my M8 to compare it with because I swear the M8 had more contrast and vibrance.
Camera
My only real beef with the M8 was the camera, mainly the low megapixel count which made cropping nearly impossible. It also had trouble with exposure and focus. I was really hoping that they fixed that with this phone. I know it's not their flagship and is, in fact, marketed as mid range, but it's really just an M8 with a different build and cameras. I have taken quite a few photo samples and compared them online to the Z3 Compact, iPhone 6 Plus, OnePlus One, G3, and Note 4. There is definitely more detail and you can crop in much further than the M8, but it still gets soft when you do. I also noticed the same issues with exposure. If you're not careful about where you tap to focus, you'll get a blown out sky or dark subject. Focus is fast, but not always accurate. It sometimes blurs the subject instead of the background. Definitely not on par with the focusing systems found in the Note 4 and iPhone 6 Plus. Colors are good, if not great. They lean toward the warmer and more vibrant side, which I personally prefer. Overall, it's an upgrade over the M8 and on par with phones like the OnePlus One and G3, at least in my testing.
Build
I know a lot of people are fans of metal, but there are advantages and disadvantages to metal and plastic. The advantages here are water resistance and weight. This is a light phone and it feels good in the hand. Coming from my Note 4, it is significantly lighter and easier to hold. It's also fairly grippy. I don't feel the need for a case. My one complaint about build is the size. This thing is big. It's nearly as big as the iPhone 6 Plus and Note 4, which is kind of sad when you consider the 5.2" screen. Part of this is the 13mp front-facing camera. Part is the speakers, even though the grills are much smaller this time around. They still needed that blank "HTC" strip on the front for components and that adds to the overall size. The camera shutter button is very difficult to press. I only see using this thing under water. If you try to use it for normal pictures, you'll get blur because the phone will move when you try to press it. I find this to be a problem on a lot of phones with dedicated shutter buttons, but it's much more pronounced here.
Battery
My other primary concern with this phone was battery. It's the same internals as the M8 with a bigger screen and a smaller battery. While disappointing, so far it's not as bad as I expected. It seems to be about on par with the M8, though I'm not sure how. Standby time is pretty good (in my limited testing so far) and it doesn't drain horribly fast when the screen is on. Since HTC doesn't show screen on time and I had to install GSAM, I don't have any screen on results yet, but I will be testing that over the next few days.
Performance
This is the reason to get an HTC phone, in my opinion. Sense and stock Android are easily the fastest, best performing versions of Android, in my experience. But Sense brings some nice enhancements to the table that I think are worth it over stock Android. There's no lag or delay anywhere on the phone so far. Everything is fast and fluid. It makes my Note 4 look positively slow. Just the gallery lag on the Note 4 alone is enough to drive someone mad. HTC is doing it right. I'm actually a fan of Blinkfeed, too, though I know other people hate it. Since the introduction of Blinkfeed, I almost always end up putting a widget on my left most homescreen of every other Android phone that gives me a full page of news, though nothing quite compares to HTC's solution. I like their enhancements to the gallery, contacts, etc. Very nice overall experience.
Misc.
1. Minor annoyance, but the stock email client makes you tap to show images on every HTML email. Since I actually use it, it's kind of annoying. I wish they would at least give an option in the settings to "always show".
2. Some of the camera features are really need, like face merge and photo strip. I do miss slow motion video and 4k recording, though.
3. Internal storage is only 16gb. You have a little over 9 free out of the box. This is the only other con to this phone, in my opinion.
4. I'm a pretty big fan of the screen on gestures. I basically never have to use the power button. And now we can launch straight into the camera, too.
5. I received an update yesterday and it auto installed. There's no info anywhere on what it was. The phone just rebooted and installed with no warning.
6. There is a ton of bloatware on this thing (AT&T). Seriously, brace yourselves. It's even more insulting with only 16gb to start with.
7. Bootloader is unlockable at HTC Dev so, there's at least hope that we'll get root soon. The main issue will be S-Off, as usual. But I really only want/need root.
8. The front-facing speakers are every bit as good as you'd expect, despite the water resistant membrane and smaller grills. It's pretty impressive how small and unnoticeable they are.
Wrap Up
Overall, I really like the device. My main concerns are camera quality and battery life, which I will continue to test. I really like the user experience overall, though, and it's one of my favorite phones of the year. I don't think this phone is really getting the attention it deserves. Even the tech bloggers seem to be ignoring it. I hope this helps anyone who's on the fence about this phone and/or looking for more information.

Obligatory Camera Samples
Here are some camera samples. XDA is compressing them, but you get the idea.

Thanks for the review and photos. The camera was better than what I was expecting from the sensor HTC is using, to be honest. The only downside from what I've read in your review is the screen: while I don't like oversatured screens, I also don't appreciate "dark" screens (it hasn't to do with brightness, but with the white tone).
Regarding the speakers, I know you don't have a M8 to compare, but do you notice much of a difference between the devices?
Can you please confirm that it has MHL and it works?

For what it's worth, I held my One M8 side by side with a Desire Eye in store and compared the screens while displaying the same images and websites. They looked pretty much exactly the same to me other than a slight difference in size. Didn't think it looked dull. Of course, the lighting in AT&T was pretty harsh so it wasn't the best environment for comparison. Maybe you just got used to the super punchy over saturated colors of the Note 4?

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For what it's worth, I held my One M8 side by side with a Desire Eye in store and compared the screens while displaying the same images and websites. They looked pretty much exactly the same to me other than a slight difference in size. Didn't think it looked dull. Of course, the lighting in AT&T was pretty harsh so it wasn't the best environment for comparison. Maybe you just got used to the super punchy over saturated colors of the Note 4?
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That's actually what I was thinking too. Not a bad display by any means.

Thank you for this mini review! Really helpful.
Could you please state in which degree you can use the phone with one hand?
Would it feel closer to the use of a One M8/Galaxy S5/LG G2 or would it compare more to a One Plus One / Iphone 6 Plus (which is for me slightly to big).
The 5.2 inch of the LG G2 is of perfect size, but that phone had way smaller bezzels, so this is in fact something that scares me of the HTC desire EYE.

Waarez said:
Thank you for this mini review! Really helpful.
Could you please state in which degree you can use the phone with one hand?
Would it feel closer to the use of a One M8/Galaxy S5 or would it compare more to a One Plus One / Iphone 6 Plus (which is for me slightly to big).
The 5.2 inch of the LG G2 were perfect.. but this phone had way smaller bezzels, so this is what scares me of the one M8.
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It's definitely closer to the OnePlus One or iphone 6 Plus size wise, but it is MUCH lighter, which does make it easier to handle with one hand. Unless you have gorilla hands, though, you definitely won't be able to reach all four corners of the screen with one hand.
It's tall, rather than wide.

I got the Desire EYE in the mail 2 days ago, it's a really good phone, really fast, takes nice pictures, overall I'm happy about it, the only downside about it is the internal storage, it has like 7 gb out of the 16 dedicated to the OS and stock apps... But other than that, really good phone!

To start off, I will say I am a big HTC fan. I talked about 7 people into buying the One M8 over the S5 this year. I love Sense, Blinkfeed and the snappiness of their devices. I have since sold my One M8 earlier this summer, around May, and have been jumping around to different devices. I strayed from the One M8 mostly due to the camera and the fact that I like to try the latest and greatest devices. I have been using an iPhone 6 since it launched. When I saw the Desire Eye was announced, I got excited. I was really hoping for an M8 Eye, which I think would have been the perfect smartphone for 2014, but this was almost as good. I picked one of these up on Friday at an AT&T store. The guy kind of looked at me funny when I said I wanted one, I don't think he was trained on the device or knew what it was. I didn't open it until Saturday night, but in the store, when playing with it, the first thing I said was, this screen looks washed out. I think it has something to do with the default theme, when I changed it back to one of the same Sense stock themes on the One M8, it didn't look as bad. It is something to do with that pink color they are using. I am torn on the device, it is like 2 steps forward, a couple steps back. I didn't like the first few indoor pictures without flash I took of my 3 month old daughter, so I switched back to the iPhone 6 yesterday because it was her baptism and I didn't want to miss any shots, or risk them coming out badly. One thing that Apple knows is how to make a camera that focuses fast and gives you good pictures. The Boom Sound is also a bit of a disappointment. The bass and clarity seems to be lacking compared to the M8. I played some Vevo music videos on the demo models in store. I am currently thinking about trying to find a second hand M8 Google Play Edition in mint condition (so I have full T-Mobile support for the $30 SIM I have for my play phone line), and keep either it or the Eye and my iPhone 6.
Y2J

Thanks for the review!
The camera doesn't seem bad but for some reason i was expecting it to have a bit more "wow" factor, don't know why and they the shots seem good enough.
You mentioned no-slow motion (i had actually talked about this in the other thread) and the info i read was that it didn't have. However, i was just watching a video review of the desire eye and in the settings i noticed the slow motion icon and the review actually pressed it and it sayed it was slow motion (its an italian video, i actually looked it up to see the translation lol). It was in the camera interface under the " ... " icon and on the modes (it usually says auto) it has the slow motion icon/cartoon - Here is the video @ 11:45
Still no mention of 4k, so that is not from stock but maybe with a mod.

griffin_1 said:
Thanks for the review!
The camera doesn't seem bad but for some reason i was expecting it to have a bit more "wow" factor, don't know why and they the shots seem good enough.
You mentioned no-slow motion (i had actually talked about this in the other thread) and the info i read was that it didn't have. However, i was just watching a video review of the desire eye and in the settings i noticed the slow motion icon and the review actually pressed it and it sayed it was slow motion (its an italian video, i actually looked it up to see the translation lol). It was in the camera interface under the " ... " icon and on the modes (it usually says auto) it has the slow motion icon/cartoon - Here is the video @ 11:45
Still no mention of 4k, so that is not from stock but maybe with a mod.
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I don't see a slow motion option anywhere in the settings. The only video options are for the resolution (MMS, 1080, etc). One thing they did do right, though, is put the video record button back on the main interface full time next to the camera shutter button. They were crazy to ever take that away.
Quality is okay. It's about on par with the OnePlus One and G3, in my testing. Most of the shots I took were on an overcast day, so not the best testing environment, but overall I think it's acceptable. I think I'd still grab my Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus if I was going somewhere to take a lot of pictures, but I don't feel like I'm carrying around a bad camera when I have this phone.

griffin_1 said:
Thanks for the review!
The camera doesn't seem bad but for some reason i was expecting it to have a bit more "wow" factor, don't know why and they the shots seem good enough.
You mentioned no-slow motion (i had actually talked about this in the other thread) and the info i read was that it didn't have. However, i was just watching a video review of the desire eye and in the settings i noticed the slow motion icon and the review actually pressed it and it sayed it was slow motion (its an italian video, i actually looked it up to see the translation lol). It was in the camera interface under the " ... " icon and on the modes (it usually says auto) it has the slow motion icon/cartoon - Here is the video @ 11:45
Still no mention of 4k, so that is not from stock but maybe with a mod.
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Okay, I was totally wrong about slow motion. I just found the option. It was not where I expected, but I'm stoked to see that it's there!

Great Slow motion on htc is good, at least if its like on the m8. I think only htc and sony in Android lets you record 120fps and then edit what parts to slow down, which is how slow motion should be. Glad to see its there and websites like gsmarena should mention it and update the specs info with that.

battery update?

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battery update?
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Battery is really good for the capacity. Idle drain with my apps and setting was about 3%/hr. With the screen on, it does seem to lose battery pretty fast, but I was still able to get about 10-13 hours of use with around 3 hours screen time. That's not much worse than most of my other phones do, actually.
I would post screenshots, but I no longer have the phone. As much as I really liked it, I just couldn't live with the camera quality. I was really hoping for better. But if camera isn't your #1 priority, this is a great all around phone. Camera is definitely better than phones like the Moto X. I was just hoping for closer to Note 4/iPhone quality.

How do the camera quality and pictures compare to Samsung S4 or S5?
Thanks.

struff said:
How do the camera quality and pictures compare to Samsung S4 or S5?
Thanks.
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My mom has the S5 And I prefer the Eye´s camera, It´s just... sharper and more clear.

sidle said:
My mom has the S5 And I prefer the Eye´s camera, It´s just... sharper and more clear.
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I'm going to politely however completely disagree. There's no comparison. S5 is one of the best cameras you can get.
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robstunner said:
I'm going to politely however completely disagree. There's no comparison. S5 is one of the best cameras you can get.
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And yet, I like this one more.
Front HTC Desire Eye:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/143110-image/HTC-Desire-EYE.jpg
Front Galaxy S5:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/143127-image/Samsung-Galaxy-S5.jpg
Back HTC Desire Eye:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/143113-image/HTC-Desire-EYE.jpg
Back Galaxy S5:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/143130-image/Samsung-Galaxy-S5.jpg
Let the photo's speak for themselves. The HTC Desire Eye clearly wins this battle, or even HTC in general. The S5 is litteraly crap in low to medium-light area's.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...-HTC-One-M8-and-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id61506

Fair enough, but in better lighting the s5 proves much better and rarely overexposed the pictures.

switch my 6p for the 10

Anyone done this ?
Been offered a swap for my 6p,
I'm relatively happy with the 6p apart from the crappy battery and most Devs moving onto the pixel.
How good is the camera in comparison and video?

nope performance is not faster than 6P.
camera cant beat 6p.

keaheng said:
nope performance is not faster than 6P.
camera cant beat 6p.
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Lol

If you are used to Nexus devices better switch to Pixel.
Tbh Ive used a lot of phones and the pictures and videos Ive made with them in the last years are all good.
If you want outstanding picture or video quality you have to use a DSLR or Video Camera.
But I would send that ugly brick called 6p to hell and use anything but it.

I'm gonna copy my experience I wrote this morning from another thread:
- Design and Build Quality:
The design is better on the HTC 10. It feels great in your hands, and it's a really solid little tank, seeming to be way more robust than the 6P. The 6P was well built, but I wouldn't say it was top notch (gaps between display glass and frame, camera visor, etc.) - Whereas I would consider the HTC 10 to be one of the best built phones I ever held in my hands. Really. Worth to note are the fantastic buttons and their Layout, which wasn't great on the 6P. Also, the size is simply perfect for my hands. I don't miss the size of the 6P, the HTC feels especially better in one hand and never feels too small to me. By the way:
<- This is straight Nokia 3310 quality and it definitely feels like that.
- Display:
Where I was the most sceptical about was the Display. I sweared to me to never buy a phone without an AMOLED display again, since the black levels on my last iPhone 6 and f.e. one of my older HTC M7 were straight horrible. Light grey, to be precise. And I just can't stand that. I gotta say, that I'm still insanely surprised about the HTC 10s display. You would almost think that it has actually an AMOLED display since the colors pop and shine. It's not as unnatural as the 6Ps display, I would say it's overall more appealing than the AMOLED one (what I didn't expect at all). Also the black levels: in darker rooms, they seem to be dark grey, which is fantastic. You won't notice the not-black-to-black-bezel until you really focus on it.
- Sound Quality:
The 6P was (especially with some EX tweaking) way, way louder while the HTC 10 is clearer and sounds more 'full' and also warmer, especially in near field, f.e. while laying in bed and watching videos our listening to music. But when you want to fill a bigger room or want to 'party' outside, you definitely need some Bluetooth speakers - it was possible with the 6Ps volume, tho.
- Camera:
The app is without a doubt so much better than the Google camera. The auto point and shoot mode isnt nearly as good as the 6Ps (I miss the Auto HDR mode in darker situations that made photos so much noiseless), but with at least some easy tweaking (EV), you get some great quality photos that CAN come out way better and more interesting than out of the 6Ps camera. Not to mention the fantastic manual mode... Oh boy! OIS on both cameras is a great thing, and the selfie camera also is a great to have thing, since it is really, really good.
- Battery life:
Yes, the battery life... I was surprised, but I can also assure you that it was and is - out of the box - so much better than the Nexus 6Ps. I still can't find out why, but the 6P gave me like ~3h SOT at max, even with some Kernel tweaking. With the HTC 10, I get like 4-5h at least, and I never had problems to get through 2 busy days. I am sure that their is some more potential, when you notice some people in the Battery Life Thread having more than 7h SOT. That was the biggest Wow factor and surprise to me.
- OS:
Hell, I don't miss stock Android. Not. A. Little. I would go even further and say that HTC did the best interpretation of Android with their Sense UI so far. It feels like stock Android in every way, but the feature set is so much better, you honestly need to experience it. Camera app, Display settings, Sound tweaking, Display gestures, Night light, some great HTC Widgets and Apps (which you won't even notice if you don't use them), etc. etc. It's just really well thought and implemented, and I gotta salute HTC for doing such a great job of adding features while maintaining the stock Android feeling. Did I mention the performance is also incredible and better (yes, better) than the 6Ps? It just feels more fluid and quick when you actually use it. In every situation. The 6P sadly had some let downs, not bad, but they occured sometimes. Maybe due to the SD810.
If you want to know anything else, just tell me.
All in all, it was definitely worth it. At least to me. I owned 3 Nexus devices so far: Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and Nexus 6P. I don't regret it a single day. Considering the price of about 400€ for a HTC 10 and the disaster the Pixel actually is (Price, Design - Seriously, it looks like a fat plastic phone for 9 years olds), I can just recommend the same for you. If you want to mod, you can mod easily, but once again, I didn't even root the 10 and it still is an amazing phone, since it's truely feature rich. It has no true weaknesses, unlike the Nexus 6P. It feels way better and more safe in your hand, unlike the 6P. It's way more solid and simply a beauty.
You can't go wrong with it. But it really depends on what you actually want to do with and expect from your phone.
Oh, and switching over to the 10 is fine. Sense UI looks and feels like Android, even more, it feels like what (Stock) Android should really be. The tweaks and features HTC implemented are great. And again: if you want it like stock Android, you can have it like stock Android - just don't use the (hidden) HTC stuff. This might be the only thing you will regret tho. :d