Just wondering if it's worth rooting the S2 or not?
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I say go for it. You have a great phone in your hands..why not see what it can really do? My brother has the same phone but stock, and drools at my setup, the lightning quick speeds at which it performs its tasks and added options I have at my disposal. Just make sure you read up first.
As you can tell by my measly 3 posts, I'm new to the game as well. I did, however, spend countless hours reading up on this site on how rooting works and what to do, and more importantly, what not to do. QBKing77 has a TON of videos on YouTube, showing how to root correctly, as well as installing ROMs, kernels, modems, etc.... He has been my virtual mentor through the entire process. I literally would watch him go step-by-step, pause the clip, and do the same. He even goes through troubleshooting techniques in case something doesn't work as it should, which luckily I haven't had to use as of yet.
Start here (assuming you're running on EL29):
*can't post links at my noob status...go to youtube and search for QBKing77's "How to Root the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch on EL29"
...and let the adventure begin! I really don't think you'll regret it, and if you do, you can always go back to stock!
Very much so.
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I say go for it. You have a great phone in your hands..why not see what it can really do? My brother has the same phone but stock, and drools at my setup, the lightning quick speeds at which it performs its tasks and added options I have at my disposal. Just make sure you read up first.
As you can tell by my measly 3 posts, I'm new to the game as well. I did, however, spend countless hours reading up on this site on how rooting works and what to do, and more importantly, what not to do. QBKing77 has a TON of videos on YouTube, showing how to root correctly, as well as installing ROMs, kernels, modems, etc.... He has been my virtual mentor through the entire process. I literally would watch him go step-by-step, pause the clip, and do the same. He even goes through troubleshooting techniques in case something doesn't work as it should, which luckily I haven't had to use as of yet.
Start here (assuming you're running on EL29):
*can't post links at my noob status...go to youtube and search for QBKing77's "How to Root the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch on EL29"
...and let the adventure begin! I really don't think you'll regret it, and if you do, you can always go back to stock!
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to look up on that YouTube channel for a while cause I don't want to screw up. I get occasional lags so I want to try some fast roms. I can't find threads to read on how to root this phone :-\
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Just wondering if it's worth rooting the S2 or not?
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ROOT?! YES!! But do your homework 1st! and do a lot of it. Spend some time in the General, QA AND development section.
Read through entire posts especially the stickies.
Since you are new you should check out sfhubs 'one-clicks' and autoroot posts.
Good place to start on a new phone is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
Get a stock rooted EL29 and then use his autoroot to add CWM+Rogue recovery.
And for goodness sakes please read (and watch Qbking77's vids too!) about how to use CWM. And the 'how NOT to brick your phone threads. Learn what the terms here mean and how to use them. This phone is the sh&t. Just be careful and take your time and you will really enjoy it.
Oh and Chatsworth is a great place; grew up there. - miss freeclimbing the face at StoneyPoint then repelling ausie down.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to look up on that YouTube channel for a while cause I don't want to screw up. I get occasional lags so I want to try some fast roms. I can't find threads to read on how to root this phone :-\
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Just go step-by-step with QBKing77 and pause when you need to. He's never steered me wrong. Under the clip will be links to everything you need. After you get it rooted and add CWM, try an EL29 ROM like Calkulin's 3.0, Blazer 4.1 or Mijjah's Blend 2.6.2....ICS ROMs can get a bit trickier, especially when you're flashing from ROM to ROM and looking for a "good fit". I'd suggest you wait until you're more comfortable with the process until you mess with ICS, but that's really up to you.
I have lots of reading to do. Thanks for the recommendations guys! :-D
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Good luck. Just wanted to second the advice from ChiTown29 - get comfortable with GB versions and using ODIN and especially CWM to do backups and flash zips.
One thing I don't see people talking about but I highly recommend is really learning how to use CWM to RESTORE you system.
Get root with good recovery (sfhub's autoroot CWM+Rogue is excellent). Boot and then get all your accounts loaded and synched (gmail, mail calendar, facebook etc.) and all your apps loaded and configured. Let it run for a day or two to settle in. Boot into recovery and do a backup>advance backup> and back up everthing. Then boot back up.
Then download another GB ROM (Blazer, VeNum etc.) to your SD card, boot to recover and use Calkulins Modified Format the flash (install zip from SD card). Check it out. See how you like it.
THEN Boot to recovery and do an advance restore and completely restore your original system.
That way you can know and be sure you understand the process of recovering!
Being in IT I can't tell you how many organizations I've been into where they've never restored any data and don't really know how to!
I make nandoids (images) almost daily and copy them (the 'sdcard' folder on the external SD card) to my pc into folder named by date and ROM name for easy recovery.
Once you do that and understand that process you can then flash away.
Once again while getting aquainted with all this I do recommend sticking with the Gingerbread stuff and away from the ICS for now. There are very experienced developers here who have bricked their phones with the newer kernels, recoveries and ROMs
I went back and forth on this for 3 weeks after getting this phone. I came across qbking77 on youtube and decided to root. Best decision i ever made. Just follow the videos and you wont regret it.
Definitely root, and then when you're comfortable with the basics of flashing, move on to some of the amazing custom ROMs by hard working Devs like Calkulin, Venum, agat63, mijjah74, T.C.P. and others. And for easy peasy one click rooting, you can't go wrong with sfhub's work. And can't forget qbking77 for sure. His posts and videos have been beyond helpful.
Trust me, you'll be thrilled you decided to dive in.
When you have a phone that's stock its very limited. When you root, you unlock your phones full potential. I know when I first rooted, I thought to myself why didn't I do this a looooooong time ago! YouTube is full of helpful videos that help to start to learn this deal. Qbking77 is a great person to follow for this... Then going through xda and reading you can learn alot!! If you root, you will wonder why you didn't a long time ago...
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Just wondering if it's worth rooting the S2 or not?
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If you don't root you miss out on the forums..................lol
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First of all, let me apologize for being very ignorant about most of the stuff on here, even though I am very interested. I have looked and can not find a definitive answer, although I believe I should have antivirus, I have no idea what to use. I have Norton Systemworks on my PC. I also want to root my phone to be able to get rid of some of the factory installed garbage on it. I have been told that it is not wise to delete some of the installed apps because android uses parts of some to make others work. Is there anyway to do a total recovery image of my stock phone so if I totally screw it up, I can fall back on it? I think so, based on what I have read here---but honestly, I got a headache yesterday reading on here and trying to learn. I am not a super-techy guy, I just want my phone to do what I want it to, and none of the extra crap that I don't want. And lastly, should I wait to root my phone until Gingerbread comes out, or will it really matter? While I do know what a rom does and is, I do not understand kernels or most of the other things on here, so i actually need 'hand-holding' through some of this. Thank you for your help...anything you can tell me will help out.
hey man. i am willing to help you thorugh this entire thing. pm me for any more questions, but here is a start. it seems you have a baisic computer working knowledge, so this wont be too hard. first, a kernel is the scripts that let the hardware communicate with the software. the nice thing about this is it can easily be modified and built upon. a few devs have added scripts and stuff to the stock kernels to make them much more powerful and battery efficiant.
this recovery image you are talking about wont fix you phone if you screw it, but it will take you back in time to when you made the backup. you can also unroot to take off any mods you have applied. always remember to MAKE A NAND BACKUP WHENEVER YOU DO ANYTHING WITH YOUR PHONE THAT COULD REMOTELY BE CONSICERED A MODIFICATION. otherwise, you can end up with a very expensive paperweight.
there are partitions on the phone's memory. there are things like userdata and cache, but there are three main ones that we will mess with: system, recovery, and hboot. system is the rom of the phone. it is the software. it si obvious why this would be altered: to get better, more efficiant, or cooler software. then, we have the recovery. this is a factory tool for resetting and manual updating. this is packed with security, but there is no security that keeps us from changing the recovery. get where i'm going? if we change the recovery to one that has been heavily cracked and maybe built from scratch by a very talented dev (i reccomend amonra's recovery) then we can make the phone believe it is being updated when we are really modifying it.
the hboot is a developmental factory partition that is used for total firmware updates and google/android development. removing the security from this is the first stage in rooting.
i would highly reccomend rooting, and would be happy to 'hold your hand' along the way. i hope this helps and does not just confuse you more.
dk
oh, almost forgot. dont wait for gingerbread. the devs will make some roms that will include gingerbread packed in. i actually reccomend you root before gingerbread so you dont have to wait for a root method for that.
lookout antivirus can be found in the market.
Guys no offense. My galaxy doesn't even have froyo so I have no room to talk but I wouldn't get to worried about gingerbread yet. LOL it hasn't even been officially announced
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ksizzle9 said:
Guys no offense. My galaxy doesn't even have froyo so I have no room to talk but I wouldn't get to worried about gingerbread yet. LOL it hasn't even been officially announced
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agreed. cyanogen will probably port it in about january or february. long time, no need to wait.
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hey man. i am willing to help you thorugh this entire thing. pm me for any more questions, but here is a start. it seems you have a baisic computer working knowledge, so this wont be too hard. first, a kernel is the scripts that let the hardware communicate with the software. the nice thing about this is it can easily be modified and built upon. a few devs have added scripts and stuff to the stock kernels to make them much more powerful and battery efficiant.
this recovery image you are talking about wont fix you phone if you screw it, but it will take you back in time to when you made the backup. you can also unroot to take off any mods you have applied. always remember to MAKE A NAND BACKUP WHENEVER YOU DO ANYTHING WITH YOUR PHONE THAT COULD REMOTELY BE CONSICERED A MODIFICATION. otherwise, you can end up with a very expensive paperweight.
there are partitions on the phone's memory. there are things like userdata and cache, but there are three main ones that we will mess with: system, recovery, and hboot. system is the rom of the phone. it is the software. it si obvious why this would be altered: to get better, more efficiant, or cooler software. then, we have the recovery. this is a factory tool for resetting and manual updating. this is packed with security, but there is no security that keeps us from changing the recovery. get where i'm going? if we change the recovery to one that has been heavily cracked and maybe built from scratch by a very talented dev (i reccomend amonra's recovery) then we can make the phone believe it is being updated when we are really modifying it.
the hboot is a developmental factory partition that is used for total firmware updates and google/android development. removing the security from this is the first stage in rooting.
i would highly reccomend rooting, and would be happy to 'hold your hand' along the way. i hope this helps and does not just confuse you more.
dk
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Like mhoodie, I, too, am a newbie in need of hand-holding. How do I make a nand backup? My EVO is rooted 2.1 with XDA- WiFi Tether, no 147.651.~.~. How to upgrade to Froyo and maintain root? How can a friend with brand new Evo root and load XDA- WiFi Tether? AFTER these I'd like to know how to flash a ROM. You can communicate with me through this forum or [email protected] or 908-251-3532. Of course I'll contact you any way you like.
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sounds good. i would love to help. i have finals coming up, so i might be a bit busy the next few days, but i will try to help as much as possible. gtalk seems like the way to do it.
these forums helped me when i was a noob, so i'm trying to help out now. next on to do list: pay back for all the roms. (i wish)
mhoodie said:
First of all, let me apologize for being very ignorant about most of the stuff on here, even though I am very interested. I have looked and can not find a definitive answer, although I believe I should have antivirus, I have no idea what to use. I have Norton Systemworks on my PC. I also want to root my phone to be able to get rid of some of the factory installed garbage on it. I have been told that it is not wise to delete some of the installed apps because android uses parts of some to make others work. Is there anyway to do a total recovery image of my stock phone so if I totally screw it up, I can fall back on it? I think so, based on what I have read here---but honestly, I got a headache yesterday reading on here and trying to learn. I am not a super-techy guy, I just want my phone to do what I want it to, and none of the extra crap that I don't want. And lastly, should I wait to root my phone until Gingerbread comes out, or will it really matter? While I do know what a rom does and is, I do not understand kernels or most of the other things on here, so i actually need 'hand-holding' through some of this. Thank you for your help...anything you can tell me will help out.
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I wouldn't worry about using an anti-virus on android, they're pretty much useless and will do nothing but eat up your battery. Once you root you can install a custom recovery that you have to reboot the phone in and that can create backups of all your partitions. Those are called nandroids and are basically a snap shot of how your phone is set up at that moment. You must be rooted to do any of this though.
Ok, just because I do not quite understand....why is it that I do not need antivirus on my Evo since I surf the web, download apps, and open emails.....on a PC, the same things without protection against virus, trojans, etc... will get my pc and life screwed in a very short time? And, by 'screw my phone up', I mean if I delete something that I need.....can I just go back---also, is there anywhere a list of the apps that android uses to run other things. Specifically, I want to get rid of the exchange mail, amazon mp3,qik, peep, friendstream, nascar, stocks, news, news and weather. I have no need for these apps, and as most of you know for whatever reason, evo will run them whenever it wants.
i have no idea about antiviruses, but you can delete anything that is either a widget or an app in your launcher. everything else is proceed with caution.
definitely root...antivirus is a personal thing...I do use lookout and its free in the market.
after you root...I suggest using titanium backup to uninstall most if not all of those apps you mentioned.
you could also go the custom ROM route...most ROMs out there already have most of those apps removed already.
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Ok, just because I do not quite understand....why is it that I do not need antivirus on my Evo since I surf the web, download apps, and open emails.....on a PC, the same things without protection against virus, trojans, etc... will get my pc and life screwed in a very short time? And, by 'screw my phone up', I mean if I delete something that I need.....can I just go back---also, is there anywhere a list of the apps that android uses to run other things. Specifically, I want to get rid of the exchange mail, amazon mp3,qik, peep, friendstream, nascar, stocks, news, news and weather. I have no need for these apps, and as most of you know for whatever reason, evo will run them whenever it wants.
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Antiviruses being useless, so far, on android is just my opinion. If you feel better having one then by all means go for it.
There is a thread around here somewhere that has a list of all the apps you can safely delete, I don't have a link to it atm but you should be able to find it with a quick search.
Imo root now, nothing is holding us back with unrevoked forever, as for bloatware, have you tried flashing a rom? VirusRom Anthrax B4 is my poisen, and its bloat free¡
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Ok, just because I do not quite understand....why is it that I do not need antivirus on my Evo since I surf the web, download apps, and open emails.....on a PC, the same things without protection against virus, trojans, etc... will get my pc and life screwed in a very short time? And, by 'screw my phone up', I mean if I delete something that I need.....can I just go back---also, is there anywhere a list of the apps that android uses to run other things. Specifically, I want to get rid of the exchange mail, amazon mp3,qik, peep, friendstream, nascar, stocks, news, news and weather. I have no need for these apps, and as most of you know for whatever reason, evo will run them whenever it wants.
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For me, personally, I never have and never will use antivirus programs on my computer. As long as you are knowledgeable, you shouldn't ever get viruses or anything. You just have to know what you are doing.
always willing to help
im no genius but i have been messing with rooting and android since the tmobile g1 and i had to learn all on my own. what everyone is telling u makes absolute sence but the main thing to stress is tell your friend to not update using sprints update firmware because all they do is patch the loophole to gain root access. dont wait for gbread. jump on team douche and cyanogen and enjoy the real power of android and the evo. any quetions [email protected]
Ok, so does it matter what procedure I use to root or do they all do basically the same thing, and then differences begin when I start changing the kernels and Rom around? I am going to try to root in a couple of weeks. Maybe next saturday, and I want to get as much understanding as I can before I jump in. I am sure once I play around with this for a bit I will have no problem, but I am very much a hands-on learner and its hard for me to learn something that is new to me just by reading, especially when most of what I am reading makes very little sense to me. So, thanks to everyone for their patience and help!
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Hi there. I was in the same boat as you are. I learned all by trail and error and by reading forum after forum. There is a ton of info out there and it can be a little too much and there are a lot of contradicting statements... I just rooted about 3 weeks ago using unrevoked3. It's the easiest way to root your phone and the safest, at least I believe that. There are other ways, but it include using the command line and things like that. With unrevoked its a very simple user friendly, 3 step process. I would highly recommend rooting your phone, once you do you will never look back. It bring out the full potential in the EVO. The best thing I like about it is I can get about double the battery life of the stock version. Check this ROM out - although it is the only one I tried I am so in love with it, I have absolutely no urge to try another ROM. Here is the second release of this ROM - the third one is in beta testing, which I am doing right now and it is 100% amazing. In order to become a beta tester, all you have to do is donate, or wait until this friday when the final version is released - FOR FREE! Here is the link for the release #2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471#. You can read the thread if you have any questions about it - I know there are 600+ pages. Check out the first page and all the features that are included in this ROM. All the bloatware you speak of are not installed with this ROM. You have the option to install them. Then the other thing is the kernel. With the release 3 of WarmTwoPointTwo it comes with an HTC kernel, which I found to actually be the best out there for this ROM. I have been getting about 29 hours with moderate use with a single charge on the battery!! Pretty good huh? Please let me know if you have any more questions....You can send me a private message if you wish...I'm here to help you. Everyone on this site has been great with helping me and it seems they are willing to help anyone. I hope this helps. Oh you I just remembered you might wait until saturday to root. If you do that, I would def. recommend release #3, but if I were you I would not wait that long!
Here's a screen shot of just my home screen. Notice how much you can customize EVERYTHING. I will post more screen shots when I get time tomorrow.
I am getting ready to root my phone and when I connected to the pc, it was the first time. Drivers installed except for ADB. Is this something that I should skip, or do I need to get a driver from htc for this?
adb is very neccesary. it is obtainable from android's dev page. sorry no link (ipad) just google android go to dev section and hit download sdk.
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
You can use "one click root",then get a program called "sdx app remover".
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jonny4 said:
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
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SDX app remover will work, but another option is to root, then download titanium backup from the market. I use the free version and it's great. Using this app, you can make backups of you apps and app data (1 at a time, in a batch, or even set overnight schedules). This comes in handy whether flashing roms, if a program gets corrupted, or even if you download an update to a program that doesn't work and want to restore the prior one. Also, if you go to the backup/restore tab, you can see all apps on the phone. If you press on the app, it brings up options, one of which is uninstall. If rooted, you can uninstall anything (just be careful).
Welcome to the epic.
I had the same thought with my heroc long ago. But the stock rom minus bloat still is garbage compared to even the worst custom rom. With this epic was never a question...custom rom 30 mins after I got it.
You can always Odin back to stock...but you never will
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I guess I am worried about messing something up, I only started putting custome rom's on My touch Diamond after I knew I was looking for a new phone in the last 3 months. Is there just a bsaic Android 2.2 rom for the Epic, so I could start from scratch with my apps?
I would recommend Bonsai, but they seem to be busy screwing themselves over. Let's just say its a great rom, but they are making some pretty dumb moves in the PR category.
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then you should have contacted the health department.
so i am noticing some of these roms will root for me. I am looking at the bonsai thread, is it an all in one package. i am new to android rooting. i know on winmo i had to first unlock then run a ruu from my desktop.
You can use odin too load pre rooted roms. Which will give u cwm. Then u can change roms at your own discretion with out a pc. Look at the ratings and read the posts before u load a rom. Id also suggest bonsai 4.0 seems to the the most stable. And I have tried all of them.
Unless you do not care about pic msging and gps in which case definately check out cm7 aplha 3. Its androi 2.3 gingerbread .
one more question, if i don't like this how do i go back to stock rom, with winmo i just reflash old one.
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BTW, if there was literal crap on this device from sprint then you should have contacted the health department.
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Thank you for this. My keyboard thanks you for the mountain dew bath.
I have decided I actually like the Samsung ui but I can;t stand how many apps there are, I have 2 freakin Facebook apps because I can't remove the original and the newer one doesn't update the old one. So best thing to do is root and try and remove the stock apps I guess.
I already said this and no one answered. if something goes wrong, how do I go back to stock sprint rom? with winmo i just re run the rom package on my pc.
Just use ODIN. It's always right at the top of the Dev section.
thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
I was in your shoes a month or so ago.
When I finally had enough time and bravery to mess around with the phone, I rooted and proceeded to brick my phone.
This bricking taught me a valuable lesson and its that the epic is very hard to permantly screw up. I also came from a winmo device before being hogtied and violated from palm and sprints marketin team but wounds healed and feelings of anger and sadness faded away when the epic decended from sprints hallowed halls. (Gg sprint marketing team on another successful campaign...)
Hope isn't lost and I would advise you to become used to your phone with the OTA updates (it should be at ec05) because unless you know what gains you are receiving from flashing a new rom, then it would be a pointless endevor.
Lurk more in the dev forums and play with your phone. If you have a question then ask and hopefully you will find a rom to fit your needs.
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I was rushed and wanted to further clarify a little on what I posted above.
The epic you have now OP should be on 2.2.1 EC05 Froyo if it's not that way now. This is the current update pushed from sprint and I personally had no problems with it. The amount of bloat you see vs the bloat you can't (CIQ...and others *too lazy to google or search*) is a factor to consider while deciding if rooting and customs roms are for you.
I know you mentioned Touchwiz and like you, I enjoy it. Rooting and flashing a rom can remove this but many of the current roms offer a version with TW either as default or baked in. This shouldn't be of concern because you will not notice much difference between stock TW and that provided in a rom other than how "snappy" it is.
I also recommended lurking in the dev forums, and I meant that. I'll look at the first page of a thread such as the ACS rom thread in dev. After seeing what's offered, go to the last page and work backwards, noting any issues or problems people are having. Do understand that people are more likely to post a problem than give praise so do not let those post steer you away, but just use caution and take notice of what's recommended to fix it.
Although this may seem long winded, I feel that a majority of people similer to myself will either conclude that rooting is hard and not mess with it, or become lost in the ever changing acronyms, root utilities, and overall direction to successfully root their device.
What makes matters even worse is that some roms can be so complicated to install and troubleshoot that the information you need to continue isn't already clear enough to you to correctly ask a question or troublesoot. You will see this reflected in post where phones are reurned to the store after it fail to boot.
So to restate what I think would be your best option (and others who find themselves looking to root and flash custom roms), you should lurk and study the dev forums along with general. Make sure current version of froyo is on your device from the OTA update (EC05 is current and you can check by Settings/About Phone/ and scrolling down towards the bottom. Become knowledgeable about what your phone can do, then if you decide that a new rom will make for a richer experience, then follow guides handed down from the roms themselves to help make sure you successfully root and flash your phone.
It can be a headache but it's worth the pain when you finally finish.
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thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
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jonny4,
I,too, was in your shoes. I registered on this forum just to reply to your post.
I've had my Epic 4G for a little over a month and I've already tried several different kernels and ROMs. I've found that a good resource for learning how to flash your Epic is YouTube. There's a guy on there with the username "randyshear." He had an Epic 4G and made a ton of how-to vids about installing ClockworkMod Recovery, making Nandroid backups, and flashing various ROMs. Before my Epic 4G, I had never had an Android phone, so I was VERY new to the whole thing. Fortunately for us, the phone has been out for a while and many options exist. I recommend checking out randyshear's vids. He posts download links to all the ROMs he tries out. I've been using the Genocide 0.3a kernel that undervolts and overclocks the CPU to 1.2 GHz and I've flashed ViperROM Apocalypse 4.0.4 with EXT4. The phone has never been faster!
Make sure you get ClockworkMod on the phone and make a backup. Also, just to be safe, back up your microSD too. Trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun to try out different ROMs to see how your phone responds. Good luck!
EDIT: I recently flashed my Epic with SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0 (EC05 Froyo) with the Twilight Zone kernel and I was completely blown away! FASTEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO I have seen yet!
here is basically what i hate. i just killed a bunch of apps and 3, Clock, amazon mp3, and qik video, that I have never used or setup are already running again. It is absolutely stupid that a program that has never been used or setup can run itself, reminds of me of spyware or malware, and because Samsung locks out removing of said apps it is annoying. I would be happy with the basic rom if all these extra apps weren't running or installed. I may try what the first person suggested. I know WinMo had a bunch of crap apps installed in the Sprint rom but at least those did not run on their own. I do appreciate everyones help, really and I guess if I plan on rooting I should probably do it within my return policy.
In an attempt to set a factory reset and have an ICS backup ROM after trying to eliminate small bugs from the JB flash (Jelly Belly w/ the fix), I erased everything by formatting data, system, and cache. The bugs were on my side of things, which is why I was trying to build from scratch.
I made the fatal error of formatting all of the above info before I had pushed Liquid's JB, and when it was time to flash the file, I had nothing.....Now, I have my buddy helping me trying to rebuild this from scratch...
I am an idiot and had no attention span today and had the same feeling that you have when you watch yourself lock your keys in your car (unless you are the dbag that doesn't feel it is "necessary to have a car in London." -Shaun of the Dead)
I joke that I was going to send my phone to Koush and give him a challenge....but he is too busy.
Any suggestions are wanted.
Right now, it appears that I have problems with the drivers. Remember, the only functional part of the phone is the bootloader and recovery mode. Cannot access USB debugging etc. b/c I can't boot the phone past the google unlock screen
Here is what I/we have done:
changed batteries
tried to load the google 4.0.2 image
load JB, ICS roms and anything stock that my friend has backed up
Reinstall the drivers
reinstall the su.zip
cheers
GN Verizon
No Rom
No Kernel
No Radios
No Nothin
Do you have adb? Have you tried to go back to stock following this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
Affirmative on the ADB. Working on trying to push through drivers and everything else right now. The problem is that ADB does not see the device
You don't use ADB to flash images. Use the bootloader and fastboot on your computer.
Follow efrants guide on how to flash back to stock. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
You should be back up and running.
Thanks for the clarification. Like I said, I had a safety net installed, but realized it was too late to save it before I wiped everything.
On a side not, I agree with your rant about toolkits and how they allow users who do not know what is really going on to play around with their devices, (users like me). I do not think that this is a bad thing though. I guess you have to ask the developers how they feel about the increased numbers of users and the support given through purchasing apps and their ROMS and Kernels. I am trying to learn how to manually build this stuff, but I never have rooted before, and if you had the ability to flash awesome new ROMS and Kernels that allowed for easy customization on your G1, could you honestly say that you wouldn't flash them the easy way while trying to learn the ropes? This is a function of an advancing technology. There will always be the pioneers who taught themselves from day 1 and are a little upset with those of us who come in and make it mainstream and cause a lot of problems and frustration. There is a learning curve, and the noobs/people-who-suck-at-this make it frustrating for those who have been in the game for a long time. But without a mainstream audience, there would not be the development that you are seeing today.
So I thank you for your patience and help. I am in the same spot you were in when you were teaching yourself on the G1, the only difference is that I have many more options and tools to use, so why shouldn't I use them?
hairfarmer said:
Thanks for the clarification. Like I said, I had a safety net installed, but realized it was too late to save it before I wiped everything.
On a side not, I agree with your rant about toolkits and how they allow users who do not know what is really going on to play around with their devices, (users like me). I do not think that this is a bad thing though. I guess you have to ask the developers how they feel about the increased numbers of users and the support given through purchasing apps and their ROMS and Kernels. I am trying to learn how to manually build this stuff, but I never have rooted before, and if you had the ability to flash awesome new ROMS and Kernels that allowed for easy customization on your G1, could you honestly say that you wouldn't flash them the easy way while trying to learn the ropes? This is a function of an advancing technology. There will always be the pioneers who taught themselves from day 1 and are a little upset with those of us who come in and make it mainstream and cause a lot of problems and frustration. There is a learning curve, and the noobs/people-who-suck-at-this make it frustrating for those who have been in the game for a long time. But without a mainstream audience, there would not be the development that you are seeing today.
So I thank you for your patience and help. I am in the same spot you were in when you were teaching yourself on the G1, the only difference is that I have many more options and tools to use, so why shouldn't I use them?
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Thanks for your comment. I reiterated a few times in that thread that I don't think toolkits are necessarily bad. I was just stating the problems they may cause. They do serve a purpose.
Many people in this forum get stuck and make panic threads giving no information about how they messed up their phone. Which doesn't leave people who are here to help much to work with. The frustration with that led me to make that post.
Your thread asking for help was an informative one and I have no problem trying to help someone like your self. You did it the right way.
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Hello all,
Ive had my Note 2 for almost a year now, and I feel its time to Root to keep new life in this until I upgrade. I enjoyed the ease of rooting my EVO 4G through Unrevoked3 and using easy tools like CyangenMod and ROM Manager.
Now Im wondering if equally simple tools exists for the Note 2. Easy backup and recovery rooting tools, and simple ROM managers to help make life easier for this casual user.
My main uses for rooting would not be for Dev at this time. More to flash custom Roms to increase my UI enjoyment; and with grad school around the corner, being able to utilize a tethering option without Sprint's HotSpot costs would be a lifesaver when I need to complete coursework or research from anywhere.
Many thanks to all, I have loved all the info I have gained from XDA over the past few years.
I would youtube wwjoshdew and watch some of his vids on rooting and unrooting. He is very down to earth and makes things easier to understand. I've been following him for a while now.
Just saw this website posted on another section of this forum..
galaxynote2root.com
Ive recently been thinking of completely unrooting and rerooting mine just because after dozens of ROMs I now know what I'm looking for and want to start fresh. Anywho, hope this helps.
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See the link below. After Fighting with drivers to get your phone to connect to your PC you can use the Toolkit which worked perfectly for me. I did have to try multiple pcs to get the drivers for my phone to work properly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957155
For anyone interested in Tethering with Wifi Tether app, look at my post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47468743&postcount=11
i just received this phone the other day. i rooted it last night with cf simple root with odin. it was very easy to root unlike my old htc one x! however, ive noticed this android os to be somewhat buggy. screen doesnt want to rotate sometimes and sms pic message will stall. any suggestions on roms or even kitkat or the version before kitkat? for some odd reason... this phone never upgraded the os the whole entire time my wife had the phone. i tried software update before rooting and it says it was up to date. very odd.
Well....
I suppose a good cleaning may be in order...considering the device was previously used by someone else...
I'd factory data reset the device in recovery then reload and sync everything again...
Once that baseline is established...then you'll know where it's really at run wise...
As for rom and OS suggestions....that choice ultimately comes down to you...
Run a few and get the feel for them...and read some user reports from the associated threads....
Then flash away and make this great device your own...
We have great users here with "a lot " of roms and development still happening...
And regarding the updated software you never got....
Don't take the official update to 4.3 unless you want a gimped bootloader with Knox security garbage....
Keep that sexy clean 4.1...loader and use a modded 4.3 rom instead....
Stock roms are slow and bloated anyway....
I won't name individual roms to try because that is often interpreted as a favorites list....and I have no favorites....
I like them all....because they let me choose the entire spectrum at will....
Read up....try em all....and have fun....
Happy flashing...g
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gregsarg said:
Well....
I suppose a good cleaning may be in order...considering the device was previously used by someone else...
I'd factory data reset the device in recovery then reload and sync everything again...
Once that baseline is established...then you'll know where it's really at run wise...
As for rom and OS suggestions....that choice ultimately comes down to you...
Run a few and get the feel for them...and read some user reports from the associated threads....
Then flash away and make this great device your own...
We have great users here with "a lot " of roms and development still happening...
And regarding the updated software you never got....
Don't take the official update to 4.3 unless you want a gimped bootloader with Knox security garbage....
Keep that sexy clean 4.1...loader and use a modded 4.3 rom instead....
Stock roms are slow and bloated anyway....
I won't name individual roms to try because that is often interpreted as a favorites list....and I have no favorites....
I like them all....because they let me choose the entire spectrum at will....
Read up....try em all....and have fun....
Happy flashing...g
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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thanx for the advice. before rooting... i done a full factory reset. im kinda new with this rooting stuff. i always root and never upload roms and stuff. just use the phone to get rid of bloat apps. i dont know where to start with roms lol
MPH33 said:
thanx for the advice. before rooting... i done a full factory reset. im kinda new with this rooting stuff. i always root and never upload roms and stuff. just use the phone to get rid of bloat apps. i dont know where to start with roms lol
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No worries...
The key is read....read...read...
The forums can get overwhelming with rom threads and mods...so...
Pick one of interest...and read it's instructions more than once....
The repetition will burn the process into your brain and make the process much easier...
The flashing of this device is pretty easy....but the steps have to be followed correctly or you'll get jammed up....
Start with the threads that explain the flash process and how it works ...
Once you've familiarized yourself with that...only then should you flash...
It's habit forming...so be careful ...LOL
The android platform is all about "you" being in control of the device....not that company named after a fruit....LOL
Take your time...as you have plenty of reading to do...
You wouldn't believe how sweet this device can run with a clean rom and the right kernel ...
Try it....you'll like it....g
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I just picked up a brand new one today, still on 4.1, and I agree it was quite frustrating to have auto rotate freeze and play store dl's a mess right outta the box
But it's alright, as soon as it gets its first full charge its gonna be draped in Slimkat weeklies from there on out. Setup Pie and it should be butter.