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SOLVED! [Q] HELP! User data keeps disappearing after reboot!

"I don't know what specific directory or partition is messed up but every single time my phone reboot I think I lose my user data or something. All of my apps force close and the tutorial about how to use my phone keyboard starts as if I just flashed a new Rom. This keeps happening no matter which Rom I use. I don't know why this is happening. I've tried 2 different SD cards and it still happens. Please Help!"
I didn't exactly figure out what was wrong but I found a solution. There was something wrong with my cache partitions.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/6433-solved-messed-up-partitions-on-internal-storage/

aznbatman said:
I don't know what specific directory or partition is messed up but every single time my phone reboot I think I lose my user data or something. All of my apps force close and the tutorial about how to use my phone keyboard starts as if I just flashed a new Rom. This keeps happening no matter which Rom I use. I don't know why this is happening. I've tried 2 different SD cards and it still happens. Please Help!
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What ROM(s) are you using? From the Terminal Emulator, have you tried running fix_permissions? I run Redemption, and when I install a new version of it that's the first thing I do, then reboot.

RMarkwald said:
What ROM(s) are you using? From the Terminal Emulator, have you tried running fix_permissions? I run Redemption, and when I install a new version of it that's the first thing I do, then reboot.
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I'm running redemptive 1.9 and I've tried multiple other roms and still have the same problem. Fix permissions didn't work either. I get an error with the packages.XML file. This problem happens no matter what rom I try.

Hey guys. I had the same $#it happen to me last week! I was sitting on the couch and cleaning my rooted Droid with stock Rom... and when I held the power button to shutdown phone I got a long vibrate instead of the usual short one! This got my attention, and sure enough, when I finally took out the battery and reported, I got the UIDs are inconsistent.... error along with the I'm feeling lucky button. Force Closes, galore! I fixed it by doing a hard reset and basically returning my phone to factory setting. Still rooted, but lost all my contacts,favorites, texts, apps... basically everything that wasn't on the SD card...:-/ still trying to restore all my settings... it was perfectly set to how I wanted it.
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[Q] After flashing latest CM9, Nitro runs super slow. Even after reflashes.

After flashing the latest CM9 nightly, I turned on my phone and found that it is running incredibly slow. Like, it takes over 15 seconds to launch any app. I have reflashed different nightlys and HO!NO!'s rom but the problem persists. I have also checked to make sure that I don't have any CPU settings that are keeping the processor slow. I even restored a nandroid backup, it didn't help.
I have now done the following:
-Wiped Data/factory reset
-Wiped Cache
-Wiped Dalvik Cache
-Install from zip
It is still slow.
Is there something I am overlooking? Any idea what is going on?
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This is a logcat(whittled down to ~400 lines) of the issue happening in kernalpanics rom. I had the dialer open, put phone to sleep, woke up phone, and immediately started dialing a number. The phone hangs for about 5-15 seconds, and "catches up" later. The log starts right after I woke the phone, so it should pop up at the beginning.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16882142/logcat-copy.txt
Here are two videos of the problem(sorry for the wmv):
CM9
GB Rom
Recap:
-I have formatted SD card and tried without SD
-I have tried with and without the SIM card
-I have flashed many different nandroid backups
-I have formatted everything and installed new Roms (I couldn't get HO!NO!s Rom working though)
-I am trying to follow the "unbrick methods" to flash stock firmware. I cannot get the flash to start though(Post)
-I am running out of ideas!

Sounds to me like you got a lemon. Look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24179363&postcount=4
Out of curiosity is it a phone from bell?

No, its from AT&T. It is actually a refurbished replacement to a new phone I got in December. I want to return it to factory settings but ADB will not recognize the LGP930. This is incredibly frustrating, when I try to install the drivers through LG software I manually put in my IMEI and it says "File not found"
Thank you for the reply, I really need to try to restore this thing.
EDIT: To reiterate, something is seriously messed up with this phone. It takes ~30 second to launch any app. IT will say the program is not responsding and I have to "wait" instead of close to get it to load.

Try formatting system partition then install CM9 again.

Thank you for taking the time Drumist. I have actually already reformatted /system then reinstalled a nightly. I just did it again and still, it is messed up. My main issue right now is that I can't even connect this damn phone to ADB, I can't try to replace this with CM9, rooted, and CWM.
Can anyone help with the driver issue. HO!NO! won't even install anymore, it just sticks on the LG logo. So I am stuck with CM9, but the drivers don't work. Everytime I hook it up to either of my computers, it will detect it as LGP930 for a split second, then try to find drivers, then it recognizes the device as 4 different devices! LGE Modem, LG USB Composite device, LG GPS, and unidentified device. Please, does anyone know how to get into ADB, I am desperate here.
I essentially have an unusable phone. Just to make a call I have to click on phone, then it hangs for about 30 seconds until it says the app is not responding and asks if I want to force close it. I have to select wait, then eventually the app will load. All list-views work fine so I can scroll the contact list. But when i select a contact I have to wait another 30 seconds.
I have searched and read this forum for hours on what to do about the drivers, but no luck.
Is it possible that this is the fesult of a corrupted file system?

My very limited troubleshooting skills with Android says you've either got a/some app(s) running that's soaking up all the CPU/System resources, or there's some major I/O issues going on with your phone (whether because of messing with the ROM or with Hardware is unknown).
Unfortunately you've also stated that you can't get ADB to work, which throws a big wrench in the works to get some debug logs.
If you haven't already tried, there's a very helpful thread on getting ADB working on the Nitro (via stock Google USB driver, not LG). I highly recommend doing those steps and get ADB working for further troubleshooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601159
Another thing to try, for giggles, pull the SDCard out and see if there's any performance gain...Maybe you've got a hosed SDCard, or bent/bad pins in the SDCard slot (worth a shot anyway).
Good luck!

Namuna! Thanks for your reply.
I figured out it is somehow related to the SD card, THANK YOU! I actually tried removing the SD card yesterday when the problem first started, but the trick is I have to boot my phone up with no card in it. Once I put a card in, even if I take it out, the problem starts up again.
Since my phone ran out of battery hours ago, I am at work, and I left my cable at home; I cannot try the google drivers. I won't be geting home until late so I'm going to have to do some more experimenting tomorrow.

You don't need the Google drivers now. LG drivers are working again.

I remember that that is the case Malnilion, but I need to try something.
Bad news, apparently I jumped the gun because my phone is super slow again, with or without an SD card.
I just really need ADB access, a log would be a godsend.

I have found I can get to ADB when in CWM, but I can't get the drivers to work when in CM9 so I can't get a logcat.

Try to adb in recovery. Did you format that SD card?
Sent from my LG-P930 using XDA

I now have a version of kernalpan1cs rom running on my nitro. Almost everything runs fine, but the slowness happens when I try to make any phone call and with other random apps.
I have ADB now, and I am going to post a logcat of what happens when I try to dial a number using the phone app, then when I try to make a phone call.
I just need some help, I can look at the logcat when I do ADB logcat, but I have a hard time keeping track of when the problems happen. There are so many things that happen immediately after it that I cannot keep track of where the previous information was in the console window.
BTW, I notice that when the slowness happens when I dial a number in the phone app that the log reports a bunch of stuff about going into wakelocks and coming out of wakelocks. I thought this was kind of weird.

2 things.
1. I salute you for sticking with this phone through all the issues you've had (and still continue to have). I would've got the thing back as close to stock as possible and then exchanged it for another Nitro a long time ago. You've already done it once, it seems the refurb you got is also suffering some hardware issues...Might be time to do it again!
2. If you are dead set on chasing this rabbit down its' rabbit hole though, then I suggest getting acquainted with another debug tool called ddms (http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/debugging/ddms.html). It's a GUI based debugger that utilizes logcat, but is much more robust with tools for filtering and viewing associated processes.
Good luck!

Have you tried replacing the sim? Sounds like a shot sim to me.

beaups said:
Have you tried replacing the sim? Sounds like a shot sim to me.
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This is a good point, especially if it's the same SIM that you used on your previous Nitro...Thereby bringing the issues with it!

Thanks guys! First off, I have exams going on so this has definitely taken the backburner, otherwise I would be on top of this.
@beaups: I'm pretty sure it isn't the SIM, when the SIM is out the slowness continues in either ROM.
@Namuna: I think I will give ddms a try once I have some time(hopefully this weekend). Thanks for the tip, I usually like getting my hands dirty
This is a logcat(whittled down to ~400 lines) of the issue happening in kernalpanics rom. I had the dialer open, put phone to sleep, woke up phone, and immediately started dialing a number. The phone hangs for about 5-15 seconds, and "catches up" later. The log starts right after I woke the phone, so it should pop up at the beginning.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16882142/logcat-copy.txt
Lastly, if I try to exchange this phone for another, what should I do in order to make it more factory-like? Install a stock ROM? Uninstall CWM?
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Here are two videos of the problem(sorry for the wmv):
CM9
GB Rom

I also got the same thing here after updating the cm9 followed by a wipe data.. Tried all the things listed.. format system, gb roms.. Have you had any luck with the unbricking method?

I have same situation about the super slow after cm9. However, i fixed the problem after using the unbricking method. everything back to normal now. You can take a try. It seems like cm9 mess up some I/O address, cause it only slow down whenever you need to input or output from system.(Example: phone call, music ..etc)

did it
had the same problem, [Guide] Unbricking Solution for LG Nitro HD (P930) did it for me, back to usual speed

Yes, the unbricking solution worked for me, I just had to use the method in the original post once I worked out some driver issues.
I still am wondering what caused this though.

[Q] Help! Messed up Rom!

Okay so I'm kind of freaking out but not really because I'm sure I can get a good answer fairly soon. I was on the Whompasaurus Rom and had the beats audio installer app and opened the app. I was coming from stock lk8 which had the beats so it showed up as that i had it installed when in fact it didn't. I had the acid mod that came with the whompasuarus rom. Anyways, as many of us do when our fingers are near are root app, they started getting root happy and decided to click the uninstall beats audio button when i had no beats on it. So, my phone immediately rebooted and then showed up on the homescreen for a few seconds before continuing to reboot. So at this point the phone cannnot be accessed. Now, I have all my backups safely on my computer that can be transferred via usb. However...I CANNOT MOUNT MY PHONE ONTO THE COMPUTER SINCE I HAVE NO AVAILABLE ROM. I have custom recovery and everything but I'm kind of scared I might have messed up my phone since this has never happened. Hopefully someone can enlighten me on a way to simply mount my phone so I can put my rom onto the phone and install it. Thanks to anyone who can answer my question regarding what to do now. I have tried mounting my phone via recovery and it's not showing up as an accessible data that can be altered.

islandjat said:
Okay so I'm kind of freaking out but not really because I'm sure I can get a good answer fairly soon. I was on the Whompasaurus Rom and had the beats audio installer app and opened the app. I was coming from stock lk8 which had the beats so it showed up as that i had it installed when in fact it didn't. I had the acid mod that came with the whompasuarus rom. Anyways, as many of us do when our fingers are near are root app, they started getting root happy and decided to click the uninstall beats audio button when i had no beats on it. So, my phone immediately rebooted and then showed up on the homescreen for a few seconds before continuing to reboot. So at this point the phone cannnot be accessed. Now, I have all my backups safely on my computer that can be transferred via usb. However...I CANNOT MOUNT MY PHONE ONTO THE COMPUTER SINCE I HAVE NO AVAILABLE ROM. I have custom recovery and everything but I'm kind of scared I might have messed up my phone since this has never happened. Hopefully someone can enlighten me on a way to simply mount my phone so I can put my rom onto the phone and install it. Thanks to anyone who can answer my question regarding what to do now. I have tried mounting my phone via recovery and it's not showing up as an accessible data that can be altered.
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I also have the galaxy note 2 toolkit if that helps

Happened to me.
Put the ROM or any file you want or need on a Micro SD card from your PC.
Place card into phone
Recovery will find it with guidance from you.
*If you switched your internal / external memory, pull the battery first to avoid errors.

Have you tried putting it into download mode, then reinstalling stock firmware? When I got stuck in boot loop it helped. Then you could re-root, go into twrp, reinstall backups.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app

Before I went to bed last night it hit me that I could use the extension sd to put on the rom.
I got one of my family's phones, transferred the rom onto his extension sd card and then put his sd onto my phone. It worked fine. Xda was down earlier so I couldn't view any responses but now that Google finished installing all my apps I see someone had the same sort of idea I did. I was actually looking for the micro sd adapter and couldn't find it so I pursued the above action.
Although...I did kind of get nervous because at the very beginning when I was re setting up the rom it said system ui has stopped unexpectedly. I have expected to see the rom restart but it didn't. I had weird force closes of apps I never heard of that made my phone restart so you can guess what I was probably thinking. Anyways thanks for the quick responses.

[Q] Missing S Note files and other things after restoring from backup

Hi everyone!
I've searched the forums and haven't found a solution or even a question like my situation.
I've run into a somewhat serious problem. I was going out of the country 2 weeks ago so I rooted my phone using the 1-click method while I was still on 4.1.1. I had to root so I could change my APN. I got my phone to work perfectly on another network while I was away, but ran into this problem now that I'm back home.
Verizon pushed the 4.1.2 update onto my phone yesterday and it sorta bricked it... causing it to loop at the blue TEAMWIN splash screen. I downloaded a factory image and flashed it using odin and got the phone to boot back up and load 4.1.1.
Sadly, all the data is gone (extSD is still intact obviously). I had a lot of important notes that I had taken in S Note. I found a nand backup I had made using the recovery mode immdediately after I rooted it from 2 weeks ago. I was ok with not getting the recent stuff back so I went ahead and restored from the nand backup. Phone started up like normal. Things looked ok at first. When I went into S Note though, I could briefly see the thumbnails (no images, just placeholders) for the files I had made... but they disappeared only a second later. I went to explore the S Note folder using Astro and only the default templates could be found. It looks like my files are gone for good. There's nothing on the extSD... seems everything was internal.
I've tried restoring a few times from the same backup... same things keep happening. Other strange observation so far is that my Aldiko app has lost my books library. The epubs are still on the SD card, but it's annoying to have to reload them and I don't remember my places in the books I was reading.
My priority for now is to just see if there's any way to get the S Note files back. It doesn't appear that I had my Samsung Account linked because when I go into settings it says not sync'd.
Is there any hope of getting my S Note files back? The work stuff is crucial and there were significant personal notes too. I feel so stupid for not making more backups just in case something like this happened.
Any help is appreciated!
-Dwass

Stuck in Bootloop & Unable to Access HBoot screen

Hi guys,
I've got a bit of a problem. My phone is stuck in a boot loop, which is a problem I've dealt with before, with help from these threads.
But this time I'm really stuck. I can't access the HBoot screen like I normally can, by holding down the volume up and power off buttons simultaneously.
I am using (racks memory) I think it's the War something mod of Cyanogen 7 I believe. I installed it 5 months ago and it's been working fine. This is not a new or recent install!
The phone does suffer from low memory issues a lot, as do all Wildfire S's. I have managed to get around that previously by moving apps to the SD card or linking to it or making user apps into system apps. I was in the middle of chatting on whatsapp when suddenly the phoned just blipped and died on me.. then it went into the boot loop. It's never happened before and my suspicion is that it ran out of memory or something.
I've tried removing the battery and leaving it out for some time, no luck. I've tried restarting without the SD card and Sim card. No luck. I've tried connecting it to my laptop... no luck. All the usual tricks just aren't working.
I have TiBu installed and my most recent back up was less than 4 weeks ago. I also did a Nandroid system backup a few months ago, so I should be able to restore ok, I just can't access the HBoot screen.
The other weird thing is, when I left the loading screen going round long enough, like in the time it would normally have booted.. suddenly the sound of my new emails popping up plays... and today, even tho it was on the load screen, it made clicking sounds like when I activate apps when my finger touched the screen. It's almost like the phone has started up as normal, but the load screen just won't go away and underneath it all is normal.
I've never had anything quite like this happen before and I've been without my phone for 3 days now, so came here in desperation for some inspiration! hehe.
I am probably going to buy a new HTC phone with a large system memory cos altho I dearly love my Wildfire S, the low memory has caused me nothing but problems since I first bought it, and I have wasted hours and hours on it, trying to get around the problems caused by it. But until then, I need to get my contacts and messages back and continue to use it for now. I would also ideally like to keep it going and give it to my sister perhaps who doesn't have a smart phone. She won't need as many apps as I do, so it would likely suit her, or maybe my Mum.
Any help anyone can give would be massively appreciated. Thanks guys!

Can't access HBoot!
Hey is anyone out there? I know lots of people get stuck in boot loops and there's a million threads of support for that, but this is different. I can't access the recovery system either. I have clockwork mod on it and normally you can get into that fine. Trying to find help on this problem is really tough cos I have to wade through all the noob threads for standard easy fix boot loops. If anyone could help me on this I'd be extremely grateful.

This might be all I can offer but two things come to mind. The first is you said volume up its volume down to get into the bootloader. The other is to search in the wildfire forum regarding whatsapp. Recently I read a post about a guy who's phone crashed from whatsapp. I don't remember how he recovered you have to search on it; unfortunately the second time he couldn't recover.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app

Thank you!
MiCeltic said:
This might be all I can offer but two things come to mind. The first is you said volume up its volume down to get into the bootloader. The other is to search in the wildfire forum regarding whatsapp. Recently I read a post about a guy who's phone crashed from whatsapp. I don't remember how he recovered you have to search on it; unfortunately the second time he couldn't recover.
Good luck
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Thank you for this... I'm willing to grasp at any thread at the moment. I did try the volume down option too but no dice there... but the whatsapp thread sounds promising, so I'm going to follow that up right now. It's after 4am and I've been sitting here working on this for hours and hours and at my wits end, so thank you! Fingers crossed!

Accessed HBoot!
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Ok, I couldn't find the thread about whatsapp that was referred to above, but I have just tried accessing the recovery menu, using the volume down and power key, after first removing the sim card, but leaving the sd card in place. Suddenly that seemed to work! The menu came up!
I tried accessing it again with the sim card back in, and it refuses to come up again as before. So that at least is one issue resolved.
Now I'm having trouble mounting my SD card, which it says can't be mounted. I know the backups and recovery files are on the the SD card, but it just doesn't seem to see them there.
I wiped the dalvik cache in case that was causing any problems and it doesn't seem to have resolved this current issue so far. I'm going to keep trying other options as see how I get on, but I least wanted to share the solution to one of the problems my thread raised.

Further Update
I couldn't remember the name of my mod in the first post.. it was the WildChild mod.
After getting my phone into HBoot by removing the sim but keeping the SD card in, I found I was unable to mount the SD card. I researched this problem and some suggest the card may be corrupted.
I have checked the card on an external reader plugged into my PC and it read perfectly fine, and I managed to copy every bit of data on it across to the computer with ease. Others however found that after a reformat it eliminated any problems with mounting.. so that is what I am going to do and then try and restore the copy of the data I saved to the PC back onto the SD card.
Attempting now to reboot normally with the sim back in and the SD card removed this time produced a very desirable result. My phone started back up, albeit without the normal operating system. I was able to connect to wi-fi and my network and see a missed call voice mail message symbol. There are however no apps at all as yet and no background screen. I should mention that the phone did ask me to allow SuperUser permissions again.. I should also mention that I foolishly tried to Fix Permissions in CWM which then sat for a long time, eventually I removed the battery cos I thought it wasn't gonna do anything.. this is a big no no I now find out from the threads and I may have buggered it up a bit. I don't know.
My saga continues anyhow, and although I've not had much support on this, it might still be helpful for others to read and follow should whatsapp crashed their phone too and mess with their SD card somehow.

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Next update on this...
I removed the SD card and put it in an external reader again on my PC.
Then I installed the free program Mini Tool Partition Wizard Home Edition and selected MiniTool Partion Wizard rather than the Power Data Recovery.
The Wizard allowed me to see the hidden partition on my drive. I understand now why it has always had trouble reading and writing to the SD card in the Ext section that was hidden. This should have been an EXT-2 or EXT-4 format partition I think, and mine is an EXT-3.
Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know much about these things and just learn as I go and by experiementing.
I had hoped to back up the hidden data in the partition but I was unsuccessful. Instead I found the Rebuild MBR (Master Boot Record) option and applied that to the entire SD card.
I then put it back in my phone, again without the Sim, and went into HBoot and recovery. I then went to my advanced back up and restore section and now the SD card is mountable and readable! I didn't have to wipe it or reformat!
I found my most recent up date which was the end of August... I wish I'd done them monthly, but oh well not too bad... and selected it and chose to Restore Boot.
Once it had completed I tried to reboot, but no dice. I put the sim card back in.. still didn't work... BUT I was now able to get into recovery again, this time without removing the Sim!
So inching along slowly here with this but making progress.
Next I plan to restore boot again, this time with the Sim card in.. and try and restart.. if that fails, I will go back into advanced recovery and try to also Restore System, and lastly restore SD-ext and see if each of those options repairs whatever damage that stupid Whatsapp did to my phone! I hope the little solution to various problems I've had are of some use to someone else here. Now wish me luck!

Wow, you were busy last night while most of the western world slept . I'm guessing if I posted at 11:10 PM and you said it was 4:00 AM, that your in the London timeline. I thought a little bit more, later, and I think that person's post I read fixed his phone by eventually getting into recovery and restoring, which as I remember worked that one time, until he reinstalled and used Whatsapp again some time later (it was at the insistence of a girl that used it). Whatsapp has, like 300 million users, but it does seem to give some people serious problems, and that's why I think most people are hesitant to try and help. They don't want to make things worse, since there are those instances of totally bricking a phone...but as long as a person can get into recovery, it's not bricked!
Interesting...I have done the, "fix mbr" in PCs many times, but I think you've taken it to new levels using it in phones! At least I don't remember reading anything much about someone doing it (in phones) before and it's brilliant, IMHO. You really did a great job sharing what you've done and I hope you get it fixed. I clicked a, "Thanks" for a good post follow up.
Insert standard disclaimer here: I'm not telling you to do anything, or what will or won't work, but sooner or later you're gonna have to restore that backup, but it's your choice on what to do; and, it sure seems like you know what you're doing, especially having made a backup to work from. I can appreciate the way you've gone piece by piece in your restore efforts to try and find where the problem occurred. The nice thing about the Wild Child ROM is it all works, and incidentally I think the developer uses ext2 for his extended SD card partition! It sounds like you reformatted to ext2 or ext4 from ext3, so the only thing there now is what came from restoring that backup piece in Clockwork; therefore, there's nothing that would be lost that isn't already; and, you backed up everything else on the SD card. So I don't want you to brick your phone either, but I'm wondering about wiping the cache and then the dalvik-cache, and then restoring your whole Nandroid backup?! I think your Whatsapp contacts are saved and so if the phone boots to a working condition you could just uninstall Whatsapp right away, boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik-cache again just to be safe, and then decide what to do about using Whatsapp again. As long as you can get into recovery, ultimately you could wipe, wipe, wipe and reinstall Wild Child to start all over if nothing else works.
On the other hand maybe you've already got this whole mess straightened out, if not, I'll again wish you - Good luck!

Solved!
So I next wiped the cache partition 3 times, as someone on another thread said sometimes it takes more than one go to clear it all properly for some reason.
I also wiped the dalvik cache again a couple more times. Then I went back to my back up and restored system. Then I tried to boot my baby back up.
I was falling asleep at this time but I remember the phone partially recovered. But most of the apps were broken. I had low memory issues too, so I uninstalled a few apps, managed to restore some individual apps or update them, and log in long enough to send messages to contacts with my email so I wouldn't lose them.
Then I fell asleep with the phone in my hand haha.. when I woke up I immediately continued with it and finally worked my way back to whatsapp being the last app I wanted to deal with. I managed to get into it and send some messages.
Then I did a full nandroid restore on everything.
The phone returned to it's state as of 2 months ago when I last did a nandroid back up. But some of my TiBu apps were backed up more recently. So I manually restored those and things were mostly back to how they were before and I am fairly happy with the low loss of data.
Whatsapp was working fine for a while.. but then it started having problems. It first had all my contacts there... then it lost their names but kept their numbers, then it lost all the old messages and right now I'm in the middle of trying to restore everything again and it's stuck on a restoration. I did a full uninstall of the app, restored the back-up, then it tried to update, but it always fails and now it's just hanging. So it definitely appears that whatsapp is one of the major causes of problems on my phone.
It was also one of the largest apps I had on there. Wildchild is an awesome rom, it only lacked video really and I installed a codec and player for that and got it working again, despite the guys on the Wildchild thread saying they didn't think it was possible. Yes I had trouble with it sometimes, but most of my trouble stems back to the low memory issues and the fact I broke all my apps up by spreading parts of them over the SD card, internal storage as user apps and system memory. That's a Wildfire S problem, not the fault of the Rom.
Anyway, I've made note of all the important numbers and will be buying a larger capacity HTC phone this week. Not sure which yet, but possibly a Sensation or Sensation XE, depending on my budget.
Thanks for your support MiCeltic. Yes I'm in London hehe. And I hadn't read anything about using MBR on a phone, but it was the SD card which had the problem and that certainly fixed it without having to wipe all my data.
I think what I have here is multiple layers of problems.. and I'm really pleased that after 3 days effort I managed to get past most of them. Once I get my new phone and transfer the contacts, I will have to think twice about using whatsapp.. it's my favourite app of all tho, so it will be hard to part with. This phone has many bugs.. I will completely erase it and reflash it when I get time and either keep it as a back up and maybe gift it to my sister or mum as I said before.
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Last update
OK this is my past update on this... Whatsapp had one last surprise in store for me.
After it started messing up my phone again. I gave it one last chance. I completely removed it from the phone and installed it as new from the GooglePlay store. Then when I loaded it, it found the backed up Titanium BackUp messages and restored those.. then when I opened the app, it also had restored all my most recent messages, up to the day before it crashed the whole phone. I was amazed. They must have been stored on the server or something.. I think they sit there for 3 weeks. So I'm likely only missing one weeks worth of messages at most, about 4 weeks ago! Ha! Brilliant. I'm not doing a Nandroid backup cos everything is stable again and I hope to have no more troubles until it comes time to transfer all the date to the new handset... that's gonna take a while cos I will have to learn how to gain the boot mod rights all over again and maybe even flash a custom rom as the stock is sure to be loaded with bloatware. Still.. if it has a 1GB internal memory it shouldn't slow the phone down too much.. not compared to the tiny 150MB this little baby has!
If someone wants to close this thread now, feel free.
Cheers. :good:

You inspired me to read a little more last night and I did see where some people found a fix by uninstalling and then installing new (not from backup), then restoring their contacts. Seems like you've proved that point! Interestingly I read that ALL of your contacts are stored on the Whatsapp server, not just your contacts that have Whatsapp (Remember those permissions you accept when you install an app!). As I said, there are 300 million users, obviously not everyone has the problems, so hopefully it will work for you now and on your new phone, which after reading your posts I know you will make a back up of immediately and again after rooting...AND definitely before installing Whatsapp ! ! ! You might even find your next phone easier to root as a lot of them don't need an update of the bootloader on htcdev for the first step when unlocking and/or many can gain Soff!
Glad you got it working and now all's right with the world...well for now