First of all, I absolutely LOVE ICS. I'm even getting a nexus to have AOSP ICS. It's great, but not on this phone. I ran it for 4 days and I am glad I did, but no more. I just want to explain why.
First of all: the camera. While everything but recording WORKS, it does not WORK WELL. The autofocus is awful, and I struggle to take a picture I would take in a second with skyraider. The pictures also are often very grainy. Now, as of AOKP, camcorder works, and flash works on Angel Camera. Everything about the camera works.
Second: Apps. I'm not talking about the ICS apps. They are incredible. On our phone though, many apps I love, like temple run , as well as others crash or just don't work. Some apps just have lots of FC's.All apps except for temple run that I use have no issues now.
Third: Battery life (depends on ROM). On AOKP, the battery life is absolutely abysmal. However, it is wonderful on the Nexus, which is why it is strange to me. I have many media wakelocks, and other issues. Getting amazing battery life with build 31 of AOKP with aero's v9 kernel.
Fourth: Stability. Just today, my gallery decided to stop working. Before, I have had random lockups, a mess of FC's and many other things. For me, it's very important to have whatever feature I need, when I need it. Not in 5 minutes, not in a hour. If I need to take a picture, I need to take one. If I need to check a website, the browser had better not start force closing. If I need to download an app, the Play Store had better not crash 5 times. Twice today, my phone decided to just have a black screen when getting a phone call, and I couldn't answer them. I have not had any issues with ICS stability on this build or the last couple of aero's.
Note though, that I am not saying that YOU shouldn't run ICS. In fact, if you can, DO IT! Just I can't, sadly. The developers do an absolutely incredible job porting this stuff no thanks to HTC. I really want to thank them for that. I'll just be sticking with GB unless there's a leak for us. I just wanted to write this up, not sure why. Oh, well.
Now, ICS is amazing, and there is no reason anyone shouldn't run it, unless you are stuck on sense!
Party on Wayne!
I'm excited for ics, but until we get a good leak I don't see me using it for a while
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You're rationalizing. Embrace the mediocre pictures. I can't leave ics because the cm9 music and MusicFX I flashed sounds so fn awesome it makes me cry.
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Are you getting a nexus one(good battery), nexus s(also good battery, or a galaxy nexus( the battery is so bad it can't keep up with charge). Just wondering, I'd go for the nexus s if I didn't have a upgrade and I needed a new phone.
If I had an upgrade I'd get the rezound. I like soft keys(actually I don't like the red soft keys on the rezound, I like the ones on the dinc 2 better), even though are soft keys are a part of the touch screen. It's the fastest phone on the market, and it can take amazing pics. Not to mention the battery is good and development is plentiful. And its getting ics soon......
IDK why I wrote this
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Huh, so the Galaxy Nexus has horrible battery. Let's see what an extended battery, franco kernel, and AOKP have to say about that. Oh, yeah, with stock battery and AOKP/franco, you get 3 hrs screen on time. Woops. And the Rezound is my least fav phone out of the "big 3". Now that has terrible battery life. I have a friend, you know the one that gave all the ICS leaks to the Rezound users? Yeah, him. He tried a Nexus and said the battery was amazing compared to his Rezound. Also, the Rezound is really thick, overheats, and has Sense 3.5/.6. Ugh.
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Huh, so the Galaxy Nexus has horrible battery. Let's see what an extended battery, franco kernel, and AOKP have to say about that. Oh, yeah, with stock battery and AOKP/franco, you get 3 hrs screen on time. Woops. And the Rezound is my least fav phone out of the "big 3". Now that has terrible battery life. I have a friend, you know the one that gave all the ICS leaks to the Rezound users? Yeah, him. He tried a Nexus and said the battery was amazing compared to his Rezound. Also, the Rezound is really thick, overheats, and has Sense 3.5/.6. Ugh.
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3 hours screen on time is what I get with my extended battery on this
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I have to say. The battery on the ICS builds are not bad at all. I am running areos 31 build with stock kernel oc 1.2 and still have an all day battery with moderate usage. But to each his own.
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I wish the op best of luck, but I hated the GN. Terrible battery life, awful looking screen and one of the worst radios I have ever used in a phone. The only thing good about it was that it ran ICS natively.
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I have to say. The battery on the ICS builds are not bad at all. I am running areos 31 build with stock kernel oc 1.2 and still have an all day battery with moderate usage. But to each his own.
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Agreed, running the same here, getting a solid 2+ days battery life with light/moderate usage. I don't take many pics so not too worried about the camera. Music FC's on me every now and again, but I haven't had a single hiccup or reboot otherwise.
I do wonder if it's possible (perhaps in an upcoming build) to lock the messaging app & launcher in memory, as sometimes the messaging app is slow upon initially launching.
I'm gonna give ics one more shot with build 29 of aokp
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Everything will get even better once htc releases the ICS kernel.
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Well, I came straight from stock 2.3.3 to ICS. No other mods/roms of any kind. Been running for about 24 hours now and no problems at all. No lag, no force closes and no reboots. I have the 3500 mAh HTC battery and I've been heavily using it for these 24 hours and I've lost maybe 15%. When I say heavily, I mean drooling at the screen four hours. I'm amazed. At first I hated the video I seen of ics when it was first announced, I thought it was the ugliest thing I've ever seen, but im loving it rite now. I hope I can talk my bro in law out of this phone lol.
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Yeah, I love it but the bugs are too.much. I hope HTC releases a kernel soon
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Why aokp? Yeah there's more options but aeros kangs are way more stable
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I'm gonna give ics one more shot with build 29 of aokp
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I prefer using Aero's builds because they're WAAAY more stable and much faster than AOKP (I actaully tried to use AOKP and I couldn't get the hang of it). Why not Aeroevan?
OP update!
What are the recommended settings for undervolting/io scheduler?
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My settings:
Gov: interactivex
Max/min: 998/128
I/O: noop
UV: -75 across the board
How long does your juice last with those settings
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I want to try one of the 2.3 Roms based off of the leaks but I wanted to check with you guys and see what's the best Rom?
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I want to try one of the 2.3 Roms based off of the leaks but I wanted to check with you guys and see what's the best Rom?
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Well, there's no perfect answer to this question. The best 2.3 ROM is the one that works best on your phone. Every ROM performs just a bit differently on each person's phone. Apps added and other changes made can also effect this. Our Epics can be like a second girlfriend...one minute giving you all kinds of love and happiness and the next minute can be a real pain in the ass...wait maybe I need a new girlfriend!
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Well, there's no perfect answer to this question. The best 2.3 ROM is the one that works best on your phone. Every ROM performs just a bit differently on each person's phone. Apps added and other changes made can also effect this. Our Epics can be like a second girlfriend...one minute giving you all kinds of love and happiness and the next minute can be a real pain in the ass...wait maybe I need a new girlfriend!
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HA! Perfect description John.
To the OP there are several good ROMs like Bamboozle, Bonsai, Scrambled Eggs...back up your phone and start flashing. I went to GB and never looked back.
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HA! Perfect description John.
To the OP there are several good ROMs like Bamboozle, Bonsai, Scrambled Eggs...back up your phone and start flashing. I went to GB and never looked back.
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This. Just try them all and see what happens
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This. Just try them all and see what happens
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Yup, its all about trial and error. I can't tell you how many times I have tried a ROM and its worked perfect only for other users to report constant force closes. When you do find the ROMs that work perfect you will be a very happy camper. It pains me to run a stock setup now.
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Thanks! I will try a couple later on. It will be hard to leave the Regeneration Rom though....I love it.
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Thanks! I will try a couple later on. It will be hard to leave the Regeneration Rom though....I love it.
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That's one of my two daily setups as well. CompKid nailed it. The other is SRF 1.2 by the way
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OP, you should make this a poll.. im curious to see which one everyone uses
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OP, you should make this a poll.. im curious to see which one everyone uses
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I agree. I have been wondering what a lot of people are using as their dailies.
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CM7.
jk. But I'd check out acs bamboozled...best gb rom I've used so far.
I've tried two (or three) 2.3 based roms and there has been a couple of things that have always caused me to go back to SRF 1.2:
No custom kernels = no overclock - I'm not a huge overclocking type of guy, but I always like to have it clocked at 1.12 or 1.2 ghz, just enough to keep it smooth but not high enough to run it hot or drain my battery.
No custom kernels = Cannot use Galaxy Tuner - I use Google Music as my primary source of car music, which means I needed to find an external app to use as an equalizer. Voodoo sound didn't work and Tuner froze on me every time I tried to use it.
Still Very buggy - I've run into a few bugs that have always irritated me, no matter how small they were. Whether it's something that freezes my phone or just kills the frame rate, I've just always been bugged (get it?) by bugs.
But where there is bad things, there have been a lot of good things that I absolutely loved about 2.3, almost enough to stay with it:
Live Backgrounds - For me, they've seem to have gotten better (stock ones anyways) and, as far as I could tell, they don't murder my battery or frame rate. The one I loved the most was this awesome looking clock that was a bunch of circles. It's hard to explain...
Screen off Animation - More eye candy, but awesome eye candy. Not much to say other then I love watching my phone turn off
Everything just seemed so smooth - Scrolling, opening apps up, etc, just seemed so fluid and clean, even if the frame rate was dropping for some reasons.
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Those are some of my personal pro's and con's on deciding whether to run 2.3 at this time or not. For me, the con's on top were more important then the pro's on the bottom. Needs are different for each person so I'm sticking with 2.2 for now until either the official release of 2.3 is out or we can start adding kernels and themes (etc etc).
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I've tried two (or three) 2.3 based roms and there has been a couple of things that have always caused me to go back to SRF 1.2:
No custom kernels = no overclock - I'm not a huge overclocking type of guy, but I always like to have it clocked at 1.12 or 1.2 ghz, just enough to keep it smooth but not high enough to run it hot or drain my battery.
No custom kernels = Cannot use Galaxy Tuner - I use Google Music as my primary source of car music, which means I needed to find an external app to use as an equalizer. Voodoo sound didn't work and Tuner froze on me every time I tried to use it.
Still Very buggy - I've run into a few bugs that have always irritated me, no matter how small they were. Whether it's something that freezes my phone or just kills the frame rate, I've just always been bugged (get it?) by bugs.
But where there is bad things, there have been a lot of good things that I absolutely loved about 2.3, almost enough to stay with it:
Live Backgrounds - For me, they've seem to have gotten better (stock ones anyways) and, as far as I could tell, they don't murder my battery or frame rate. The one I loved the most was this awesome looking clock that was a bunch of circles. It's hard to explain...
Screen off Animation - More eye candy, but awesome eye candy. Not much to say other then I love watching my phone turn off
Everything just seemed so smooth - Scrolling, opening apps up, etc, just seemed so fluid and clean, even if the frame rate was dropping for some reasons.
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Those are some of my personal pro's and con's on deciding whether to run 2.3 at this time or not. For me, the con's on top were more important then the pro's on the bottom. Needs are different for each person so I'm sticking with 2.2 for now until either the official release of 2.3 is out or we can start adding kernels and themes (etc etc).
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You know there can be no custom kernels until source code is released. But as for overclocking, many have had success with Tegrak from the market that has allowed overclocking on the GB leaked ROMS.
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You know there can be no custom kernels until source code is released. But as for overclocking, many have had success with Tegrak from the market that has allowed overclocking on the GB leaked ROMS.
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Yea, I'm slowly learning all that, I just didn't know at the time. As for Tegrak, I heard it's a major drain on the battery for some reason, but maybe results vary from user to user. Overclocking wasn't a huge concern for me, it was the other two on there that kind of got to me. I'm still happy with 2.2 so that's why I've decided to wait it out
Install acs updater and try them all
Its in the market
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hmm i never tried compkid's regeneration or inception roms. How are they?
as for the topic we are on now, i left acs1.2 the day eg22 came out and yeah al though for some things i would love to go back to acs1.2 but the scale is heavier for me on the gb side.
I used go green, team era's scrambled eggs and tried all the randomrom 2.3 versions (eagle, egret, osprey). The most stable rom for me is randomrom osprey. It is fast enough, great on battery and everything works well with it (other lauchers, apps, etc). As for scrambled eggs, man i loved how snappy that rom was. It was extremely quick upon the click but unfortunately it wasnt working that good with a few launcher and apps and way too many force closes but still fast. Even though i feel scrambled eggs was snappier than osprey, i did receive much higher quadrant scores with osprey (not that quadrant actally matters to me, just for the sake of seeing the scores).
GoGreen was meh for me and i am definitely anticipating an update for scrambled eggs..
I first went with Bamboozle, and it was good. Then one day there are 3 EG22 Roms here it seemed.
So I tried RandomRom and I was having an awful time after 2 days with FC's and reboots.
I then loaded Scrabmled Eggs yesterday and I have been clean (other than google Nav). I am checking battery life now, but I am doing better now than I was with RandomRom. I have to think I was doing something wrong with RandomRom cuz my battery life was terrible and the FC's. I did the same thing each time I installed them, but as said before, each phone is different.
Good luck!
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I first went with Bamboozle, and it was good. Then one day there are 3 EG22 Roms here it seemed.
So I tried RandomRom and I was having an awful time after 2 days with FC's and reboots.
I then loaded Scrabmled Eggs yesterday and I have been clean (other than google Nav). I am checking battery life now, but I am doing better now than I was with RandomRom. I have to think I was doing something wrong with RandomRom cuz my battery life was terrible and the FC's. I did the same thing each time I installed them, but as said before, each phone is different.
Good luck!
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Curious, how did you go about flashing RandomROM? It was the first EG22 rom i tried when it initially came out and all the updates since have worked flawlessly for me.
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I was running the scrambled eg22v4, just installed v7 this morning and so far it seems a little better. Only complaint is my battery seems to be going down a little faster, but it could be cuz I've been messing with loading stuff and resetting everything up. I'll give more feedback when I've had it a few days. ACS Go Green wasn't bad either.
So I'm new to the android community coming from an iphone 4S, and so far it's pretty awesome. lol. I've tried two ROM's, AOKP and TuchMi. So far i'm enjoying TuchMi since it brings the stock with all of Samsung's features, plus overclocking, V6 and all that. performance has been nice. As i'm trying to get more into android, I wanted to know you guy's thoughts on the two ROM's or maybe any other ones that might be better?? thanks in advance!
Stock, the best!
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Stock, the best!
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Just plain stock?? really think so??? Thing about AOKP, is the customizations.
Wanams Rom
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I was hoping this thread to run good since I am trying to get an idea on roms since I just got my S III today.
We got enough good roms going.
I mean we have a subsidized carrier phone, so it's pretty natural for the international counterpart would get more attention.
With that said, I love AOKP.
AOKP is beast. Just trying to test out different ROM's, but seriously, if you like touchwiz, check it out. Only thing is, my apps say they are invalid when I download. Any help??
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Diet ICS
Also tried TuchMi, it was pretty good.
Currently using the diet ICS build from 08/04 with the latest BLUE theme installed (found in the diet ICS thread from peterguru) and it looks and works great. Running ktoonz latest kernel (which allows underclocking to 192MHz and has more steps than faux123's v009) and smokin's CPU Editor with Battery Saver. Great battery life, great performance, awesome blue "diet" theme. Probably my favorite so far.
To be honest though the thing that made me switch and flash diet ICS over TuchMi 5.0 was the inclusion of Google Wallet (although now my phone thinks its a Galaxy Nexus ) -- still haven't been able to test it out in the wild though...
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Also tried TuchMi, it was pretty good.
Currently using the diet ICS build from 08/04 with the latest BLUE theme installed (found in the diet ICS thread from peterguru) and it looks and works great. Running ktoonz latest kernel (which allows underclocking to 192MHz and has more steps than faux123's v009) and smokin's CPU Editor with Battery Saver. Great battery life, great performance, awesome blue "diet" theme. Probably my favorite so far.
To be honest though the thing that made me switch and flash diet ICS over TuchMi 5.0 was the inclusion of Google Wallet (although now my phone thinks its a Galaxy Nexus ) -- still haven't been able to test it out in the wild though...
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I've been seeing alot about diet. So you say its a good one? Think i might flash it tonight.
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AOKP has been wonderful so far, flashed it from CM9 and not really seeing any reason to go back although both are great in their own ways.
Wanam has a really nice ROM. Well that's if you're one of us that actually likes Touchwiz. I for one love it. Smooth and excellent battery life.
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Just plain stock?? really think so??? Thing about AOKP, is the customizations.
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I've been on TuchMi-S3"X" 5.0 since i got my phone 2 weeks ago. So far the best. I tried Diet rom too, but it was a little skinny for me (lol?).
I tried AOKP today and I had used AOKP on my Atrix before, but I went back to TuchMis3x right away because its so far the best. Stable, Battery is insane too!
I'm just waiting for CM10 to fully come out for our phones and i'll make the switch!
Sooo, I switched from TuchMi to AOKP, and right after, my battery starts to drain. Drained about 5% within 2min. Running TuchMi, my battery barely moves. Now I'd have to say that it is successfully the best ROM imo. only problems are: my Google account syncs on and off with contacts, and sometimes i get a blue screen fracture. idk.
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Sooo, I switched from TuchMi to AOKP, and right after, my battery starts to drain. Drained about 5% within 2min. Running TuchMi, my battery barely moves. Now I'd have to say that it is successfully the best ROM imo. only problems are: my Google account syncs on and off with contacts, and sometimes i get a blue screen fracture. idk.
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If your battery drained that fast then something is wrong. Almost 11 hours on battery with 2 hours of screen time, lte on all day and wifi on past 3 hours and I am sitting at 62% right now. I am on aokp ics right now. Only thing keeping me from newer updates is that HBO go doesn't work in any of the cm10 based in roms yet that I know of
I would also like to point out that it takes several battery cycles before a rom fully settles in and you find out how it truly performs with battery.
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If your battery drained that fast then something is wrong. Almost 11 hours on battery with 2 hours of screen time, lte on all day and wifi on past 3 hours and I am sitting at 62% right now. I am on aokp ics right now. Only thing keeping me from newer updates is that HBO go doesn't work in any of the cm10 based in roms yet that I know of
I would also like to point out that it takes several battery cycles before a rom fully settles in and you find out how it truly performs with battery.
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Thanks for that. Like I said, I'm new to this so I didn't know what was going on, so the first thing that came to my mind was to go back. Now I just flashed the AOKP jb ROM. The AOKP that i had before was the CM9 based one i believe? lol. Either way, thanks man. added a little more confidence for me lol.
Jellybro from Euroskank the best one for my needs. not the last one though. 2 days battery, butter smooth, love the Jelly aesthetics and simplicity.
When the bugs are worked out of paranoid android I would say give that a run. The ability to run phone and tablet on one device together flawlessly is great. Plus you ave full control over the size of all apps and the such.
JellyBro is my top pick, then would be a stock ROM ([ROM]{??/??/????}TEAM_INSOMNIA PrEsEnTs ARISTODEMOS) and after that I'd say AOKP CM9 based for EXTREMELY long battery life.
been using cm9 for a few days, perfectly stable so far and great battery life. Can't beat stock ics
Blazer
I have been on Blazer O/C with the Kalagas mixed ICS Theme and love it. Seems all the stock based ROMS are fine with some nice tweaks
I'm currently looking for a ROM base to modify to my needs. I really like the features available in cm but I'm not sure if cm10 (stock) is stable enough for production use yet. Does anyone have experience with this?
Been using it for about a month now and have no issues what so ever, I recommend the builds by Euroskank as he adds some really useful features.
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Been using it for about a month now and have no issues what so ever, I recommend the builds by Euroskank as he adds some really useful features.
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Thanks! I'm looking at adding my own features that I need so I'll be compiling from src
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Thanks! I'm looking at adding my own features that I need so I'll be compiling from src
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Even though they are not any RC's yet its pretty stable I have been running a nightly for two weeks
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I threw CM10 on mine and I had some radio issues. I don't know the technical details but the signal wouldn't lock in completely. The signal notification on the top bar would never turn blue no matter how perfect signal was, the wifi wouldn't lock in blue either. Reverted to stock for now.
Other than that it was awesome!
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I threw CM10 on mine and I had some radio issues. I don't know the technical details but the signal wouldn't lock in completely. The signal notification on the top bar would never turn blue no matter how perfect signal was, the wifi wouldn't lock in blue either. Reverted to stock for now.
Other than that it was awesome!
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FYI - even though your bars are gray, you still have an active data connection. When they turn blue it means they are connected to googles servers
Sorry for OT - but try JBSourcery instead. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824624&highlight=jbsourcery&page=3
I just got my Verizon GNex about 3 days ago and right when I got it I rooted and put the CM10 preview ROM on it. I haven't found one thing wrong with it yet. Works great for me
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You can also try Paranoid Android which has CM10 as its base and this ROM has been very stable for me. This ROM can be used in stock phone layout, phablet, or tablet modes.
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I just got my Verizon GNex about 3 days ago and right when I got it I rooted and put the CM10 preview ROM on it. I haven't found one thing wrong with it yet. Works great for me
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How is your battery life? GPS? Still no bugs?
I'm still running Pete's Bugless Beast and its so perfect but just no mods or customization. I want to be able to customize but I don't know that I want to risk losing my bugless JB...
Has anyone compiled cm10 from source with no customizations other than the camera, NFC, and GPS files? How is that build? I'm going to be modifying it for personal and perhaps submit back.
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FYI - even though your bars are gray, you still have an active data connection. When they turn blue it means they are connected to googles servers
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Gotcha, thanks, I still was having issues, but I think it was hardware of 515.10 dropping connection
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How is your battery life? GPS? Still no bugs?
I'm still running Pete's Bugless Beast and its so perfect but just no mods or customization. I want to be able to customize but I don't know that I want to risk losing my bugless JB...
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GPS is perfect. Locks immediately. Battery life is nothing to write home about. I have the official extended battery and with decent use I might get 8hrs if I'm lucky. I'm up for ideas on other JB ROMs for Verizon that have better battery life.
Everything is perfect except for the battery. Almost afraid to flash another ROM because everything on the CM10 preview works for me.
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I've been using XenonHD ROM for about a month now and find there are many features that were present in CM9! Runs fast and smooth!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667418
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I might get 8hrs if I'm lucky. I'm up for ideas on other JB ROMs for Verizon that have better battery life.
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JTFC, that's awful. How does it compare with what you had on ICS? I get decent battery life on JB (CM10), but still slightly lower (10-15%) than on CM9, but 1.5 to 2 days is still possible with my use + 3 hours screen on or so over that time. This holds true for all the JB ROMs I've run. 4-5 hours of screen on time over a workday of hard use is still possible for me, but idle drain seems to be hit/miss, some nights 0.25%/hour, other's 1%. Sync seems to be a more of a battery eater on JB, and I haven't bothered running Google Now since the first day or two I ran JB.
Shall see how today's JRO03L build performs.
Running vicious rom, the cm10, great with Franco kernel and his app. No complaints. Only thing is i can't get play music to download to my phone from the cloud
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JTFC, that's awful. How does it compare with what you had on ICS? I get decent battery life on JB (CM10), but still slightly lower (10-15%) than on CM9, but 1.5 to 2 days is still possible with my use + 3 hours screen on or so over that time. This holds true for all the JB ROMs I've run. 4-5 hours of screen on time over a workday of hard use is still possible for me, but idle drain seems to be hit/miss, some nights 0.25%/hour, other's 1%. Sync seems to be a more of a battery eater on JB, and I haven't bothered running Google Now since the first day or two I ran JB.
Shall see how today's JRO03L build performs.
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Unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to. The GNex was a warranty replacement for my old Thunderbolt. After I got the GNex I immediately rooted and threw the first JB ROM on it I could find. I will keep searching through various threads in the development forum and see what I can come up with.
Oh and thanks for confirming my suspicion that my battery life is below average. The weekend is here. Plenty of time for experimenting
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gcantrell said:
Unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to. The GNex was a warranty replacement for my old Thunderbolt. After I got the GNex I immediately rooted and threw the first JB ROM on it I could find. I will keep searching through various threads in the development forum and see what I can come up with.
Oh and thanks for confirming my suspicion that my battery life is below average. The weekend is here. Plenty of time for experimenting
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I highly recommend Better Battery Stats if you don't have it already. There's a free XDA version posted on the site, but the Market version is well worth the ~3$ also. Sync and location services (GPS or Google) and Google Now seem to be the biggest offenders on JB. I run sync and location sparingly.
That said, the GN is definitely no battery queen unfortunately :crying:
Im deciding on which one to stick with... I really love the look and feel of cm10 but the battery life issue is the only thing holding me back whereas with arhd i heard it has great battery life although sense ui doesnt really appeal to me a whole lot but i dont mind it. if you were in my shoes, which one would you recommend and perhaps a small reason why? thanks
cant go wrong with cyanogen.
[Cyanogenized HTC 1X]
Try not to ask too much of these, it can annoy developers and start arguments over best rom. It's up to you they, both have their strengths and weaknesses.
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sensation lover said:
Try not to ask too much of these, it can annoy developers and start arguments over best rom. It's up to you they, both have their strengths and weaknesses.
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pak-stars said:
cant go wrong with cyanogen.
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how are you finding the battery life?
In my experience, Sense ROMs offer much better standby time - the phone barely uses any battery when in deep-sleep. By comparison, using CM10, your battery will be slowly eaten even when sleeping. I'm not saying it makes CM10 unusable - far from it - but if you might get 3 or 4 days standby on Sense you'll be lucky to get 2 with CM10.
As for screen time - yes, Sense is still better... but it's less noticeable here. Perhaps 4 hours in a Sense ROM might be 3 on CM10.
I am currently running CM10 nightly from 22nd October and the 0.7 Bricked kernel. On balance, I prefer the performance boost in CM10 to the better battery life in Sense but you might have different needs.
Hope this helps you make up your mind.
i think CM10 should use another kernel such as NCX or Bricked for save battery
I recently tried IceColdJelly (AOKP) for a day or too. I missed all the tweaks that was offered in ViperX (Just upgraded HBOOT to 1.28), the customizable features were plenty some, and the ROM was indeed very fast. The battery was also decent, though I didn't check it fully.
However, what I missed the most was the Sense UI, especially the dialer and the way it fits all the contacts together, and all the apps can simply open a contact and view it fully. The AOKP dialer was especially uncomfortable (much bigger than Sense's).
I tried installing another dialer but couldn't make it the ultimate default (whenever receiving a call, the original dialer's animation would pop for a second, then switch to my dialer for the rest of the duration).
Since I didn't find the equivalent of this in AOKP, I skipped town after a day or too in favor of ARHD 12.0, and happy ever since.
battery life is great compared to the stock sense rom. Im using the stock kernel at the moment. Its last about twice as long. No bugs so far.
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Yeah I just flashed cm10 today on my phone and I'm going to use it for a week then try out arhd perhaps next week. So far my battery has been dying sortve fast but after a couple of cycles it should get better.
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I'm in a similar position, not sure when my carier will release JB, so thinking of taking the plunge and trying CM10. ( as I dont need to upgrade my HBOOT ) for this. Are nightlies stable for daily use incl. camera, wifi etc ? Some people say no issues, others say they have issues. With CM10, how long before a stable is released ?
Many of the issues reported lately had been the result of some kernel commits for a newer mpdecision. SODs mainly. Those changes are now reverted in the latest nightly 27th. I have been using cm10 for the past three months with bricked 0.7 and have never been happier. Has all the tweaks I need with a battery that gets me through all day with 3-4 hours screen time.
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Many of the issues reported lately had been the result of some kernel commits for a newer mpdecision. SODs mainly. Those changes are now reverted in the latest nightly 27th. I have been using cm10 for the past three months with bricked 0.7 and have never been happier. Has all the tweaks I need with a battery that gets me through all day with 3-4 hours screen time.
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How often would you flash the nightlies ? Surely you wouldn't be re-flashing every night ?
I have settled with seadersn edition. There is a separate thread available for it under original android development. It already includes bricked kernel as default.
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I'll just be giving everyone a little history on my experiences with the Epic 4G Touch and it's OS iterations since release.
Purchased brand-new on 10/1/11. It came with 2.3.6. When mid 2012 came I heard about 4.0 ICS coming around, so I kept checking every 5 minutes for the new update implementation. Read that it's been delayed... not confirmed; Sprint said that they've no idea... blah blah blah, that sort of nut-shell...
So, when it FINALLY got to my phone, I was excited only to figure out these 3 issues.
1. It wasn't ANYWHERE as smooth, responsive, or as fluid as 2.3.6.
2. Had much... much worse battery life (FL27 barely fixed that....)
3. Had the infamous "Sprint ID has stopped responding" issue (FL24 fixed that?) - it went away when I got FL24.
So, within the last week or so, I got sick of waiting for 4.1.2 OTA from Sprint and or Samsung, so I decided to do what we all here do. We take matters into our own hands; so I did, and threw the GA10 Build 4.1.2 with Nature UX onto my Epic 4G Touch.
Now, I love it. It's smooth, and is as good as any UI overlayed Android flavor.
I would keep it...if me, I, personally didn't get horrid battery life from it. (4G off, auto-sync off, most "useless apps and programs running in the background were disabled. I had GPS off, and 50% or so screen brightness.
Guess what mmy battery drain rate was? 30% an hour.... using the phone for mid-use texting would bring battery life from 99% to 20% in about 50 minutes.
As you guessed, I had to do something about that...
Oh what about custom ROMS you might ask? Man you guys here at XDA are on the ball today. Thanks for asking.
I used AOSP Alpha 6 4.1.1 and TBH I loved it. That from what I've experienced on my handset was an OTA worthy build. No known bugs or issues to me... but it still had bad battery life (20-40% an hour drain..)
And I tried AOKP 4.1.1, which was HORRID overall in my experiance. Slow, and bad battery life.
So, if it's OK here... I've come to the conclusion that Android 2.3.6, overall, is the BEST ANDROID version to date.
It offers the best combination of speed/smoothness, and battery life.
I have a Nexus 7 with Android 4.2.1, and my stock Epic 4G Touch running 2.3.6, is JUST AS FAST, and JUST as responsive..
Tl;DR: I think GB is better then JB or ICS generally speaking, and I'm curiorus on what the XDA input is on all this..
Strange, my battery life on GA10 stock rooted is similar to GB. I get 18-24 hours with 2-3 hours of screen time most days. My batteries are both new 1800mah. I occasionally use gps nav, regularly use bluetooth and have email sync every 30 minutes. No facebook or twitter type apps.
The touchwiz experience is definitely better in JB as well. I was on AOSP roms for 6 months before this and never thought I would go back.
My thoughts ill sum it up quickly. Gb was is great. Fast and works. Ics is a joke and very glitchy. Stock jelly bean ga10 now were talking its flat out amazing. The new google search and refinement is top notch. I recieved new phone under warranty. Ga10 is so good I flashed it as soon as I pulled phone out of box. I just pulled 7 hour screen on time- 3.5 hours of tiger woods 2012 with cheapo extended battery.
Now on batteries. If there old and getting crappy life like you well replace it. I have multiple batteries and wall dock charger. That being said my phone never is plugged in to charge. Most people smart phone habbits is plug phone in all the time. Trying to cram a few %. That kills a battery. Destroys them! If you can fully charge on dock and fully discharge in phone then dock charge your dead batttery. They last much longer and keeps android battery meter happy. I have 2 stock samsung batteries that came with the phone. 1 is 14 months old and the other is 1 week old that came with replacement. The old one dies very fast while new one last all day. Amazon is your best friend
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I've come to the conclusion that Android 2.3.6, overall, is the BEST ANDROID version to date.
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Well good for you!
Hope you got your flame suit on.
I guess all the devs contributors and regulars here must be idiots or something. You know, trying to continually improve the OS, applications and experience. What's that all about? We should probably just take what we were given and be happy. I mean my old 66 VW bug was great, why would I want or need my new car?
After reading the 2 posts you've put up recently I think your problem is lack of understanding what you're doing. You should probably do alot more reading before you brick your phone, then the best Android version will be "none" cuz your phone's gonna be dead.
I like to break stuff!
Yeah, you didn't even try 4.2.1... Which is 10x better than GB. Touchwiz ICS I agree is atrocious.. but you only tried a couple AOSP JB ROMs and are condemning it as worse than GB. Now that is a joke!
And I am sure you didn't try to apply any kind of battery tweaks or even try ds battery saver. Idk for me GB was lacking in so many departments. But to each his own
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After reading the 2 posts you've put up recently I think your problem is lack of understanding what you're doing. You should probably do alot more reading before you brick your phone, then the best Android version will be "none" cuz your phone's gonna be dead.
I like to break stuff!
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I'm a noob when it comes to ROOTING and all things involving modification of them, true.
But, I know enough to come to the conclusion that Gingerbread has worked the best for me.
Perhaps I should have stated that the OP was subject to personal preference and bias.
I'm not trying to pass off anything I've said as absolute fact. Im just expressing my own two cents, so take what I say with a huge truck load of salt.
The OP says what I did, and what I experienced. Nothing more.
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Yeah, you didn't even try 4.2.1... Which is 10x better than GB. Touchwiz ICS I agree is atrocious.. but you only tried a couple AOSP JB ROMs and are condemning it as worse than GB. Now that is a joke!
And I am sure you didn't try to apply any kind of battery tweaks or even try ds battery saver. Idk for me GB was lacking in so many departments. But to each his own
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I never said 4.2.1 is worse then GB. I said that GB has proven to be faster, and more responsive then 4.2.1.
I have a Nexus 7 running 4.2.1.
With my stock phone, and stock tablet, GB runs just as smooth really. But I'd give the advantage to GB.
You are correct that I never tried any battery tweaks. I may have to when I learn how to.
But a stock GA10 ROM getting the lack of battery life I had?
If other people are reporting better battery life then even GB (Or even equal)
This means either I just did something wrong, or maybe it's not working for me.
I can accept either way.
Just saying how it all is... for me.
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Well good for you!
Hope you got your flame suit on.
I guess all the devs contributors and regulars here must be idiots or something. You know, trying to continually improve the OS, applications and experience. What's that all about? We should probably just take what we were given and be happy. I mean my old 66 VW bug was great, why would I want or need my new car?
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In my personal experiance, GingerBread has been the best FOR ME.
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Strange, my battery life on GA10 stock rooted is similar to GB. I get 18-24 hours with 2-3 hours of screen time most days. My batteries are both new 1800mah. I occasionally use gps nav, regularly use bluetooth and have email sync every 30 minutes. No facebook or twitter type apps.
The touchwiz experience is definitely better in JB as well. I was on AOSP roms for 6 months before this and never thought I would go back.
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See, your results are something I wish I had. I also use factory 1800Mah batterys. I have 4 total. 3 purchased on Amazon for just shy of $10.00, and one factory original.
What are you doing right? Or, what am I doing wrong? XD
OP, I know what you're trying to say and understand how you reached your personal conclusion and insight about the state of custom and official roms available for our phone. With that said, I think you should give the stock rooted FL16 rom an install and try it out. For me personally, it's the best Jellybean I've tried so far.
I tried in the past Gingerbread (EL29 OEM, Calkulin v3.0), ICS (OEM and Blue Kuban), and Jellybean (FK23, FL16, and GA10). And among those, I've had the smoothest experiences with OEM EL29, Calkulin v3.0, FL16, and GA10. GA10, however, had the call waiting bug and faster battery drain than FL16. So I went back to FL16. The battery life of FL16, though good, wasn't as good as Calkulin v3.0. So I bought myself a Gorilla Gadget 3500mah extended life battery and everything is perfect now.
I hope you can derive more fun and usage pleasure out of our phone in the feature.
I'll chime in. The feature set in Jelly vs. Ginger is no contest. Even if Jelly had a bit of lag and slightly less battery life (which I have none in GA10) I'd still use it over Ginger hands down. It's 10X more powerful. It's like comparing an xbox to an xbox 360.
A side note on battery life. Sure it was longer with ginger, that was when my battery was new. A year later, no rom is going to have equal battery life. Buy a new battery and then see how many hours you get off Jelly.
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I'll chime in. The feature set in Jelly vs. Ginger is no contest. Even if Jelly had a bit of lag and slightly less battery life (which I have none in GA10) I'd still use it over Ginger hands down. It's 10X more powerful. It's like comparing an xbox to an xbox 360.
A side note on battery life. Sure it was longer with ginger, that was when my battery was new. A year later, no rom is going to have equal battery life. Buy a new battery and then see how many hours you get off Jelly.
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I have 3 batterys that are like-new. Maybe 20 charge cycles through 'em.
Also, GA10 has horrid battery life for me.
What did I do wrong?
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See, your results are something I wish I had. I also use factory 1800Mah batterys. I have 4 total. 3 purchased on Amazon for just shy of $10.00, and one factory original.
What are you doing right? Or, what am I doing wrong? XD
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I really jusy use my phone like normal with some minor adjustments for better battery life. I removed a few stock apps but nothing really significant mostly sprint and samsung bloatware. I don't use connection optimizer, removed it, but I am very good about manually toggling gps, bluetooth and wifi when not in use and backing out of apps. Default brightness with auto setting 1 minute off and I use notification light with blink app, fast blue for sms so I can see it quickly.
Email is set to sync schedule to check every 30 mins on weekdays with nights and weekends every 4 hours. Only email, gmail, calendar, contacts, and internet sync. Weather widget is updated every hour. Location services use wireless networks but not gps or google and google now is off.
I get a pretty 3g good signal most of the time. No 4g here in KY so its always off. I use wifi at home but not at work and at least an hour of my screen time is over 3g daily. I also use an external charger and run my batteries down to about 10% then power off and pop in a new one. Hope that helps you or somebody else.
Just get yourself a new phone with a bigger battery that will solve your problem thats what I did. For me I felt like GB was the best for the e4gt and well iCS was a joke snd well JB is great snd all but waiting for an update and for source just to make roms much better and kernels to get better battery is just taking too long. I solved my problem by getting a note 2 that runs JB real good and battery life is lovely especially when you dont have to carry extra batteries or a charger which is silly to me but thats just my 2 cents and plus im just a phone whore cuz im pretty sure when tge s4 or note 3 comes out ima just sell the note 2 and buy the latest best thing lol but that's just me.
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My thoughts ill sum it up quickly. Gb was is great. Fast and works. Ics is a joke and very glitchy. Stock jelly bean ga10 now were talking its flat out amazing. The new google search and refinement is top notch. I recieved new phone under warranty. Ga10 is so good I flashed it as soon as I pulled phone out of box. I just pulled 7 hour screen on time- 3.5 hours of tiger woods 2012 with cheapo extended battery.
Now on batteries. If there old and getting crappy life like you well replace it. I have multiple batteries and wall dock charger. That being said my phone never is plugged in to charge. Most people smart phone habbits is plug phone in all the time. Trying to cram a few %. That kills a battery. Destroys them! If you can fully charge on dock and fully discharge in phone then dock charge your dead batttery. They last much longer and keeps android battery meter happy. I have 2 stock samsung batteries that came with the phone. 1 is 14 months old and the other is 1 week old that came with replacement. The old one dies very fast while new one last all day. Amazon is your best friend
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Amazon totally IS my best friend, when it comes to objects.
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My experience was opposite interestingly enough. When I first got my phone I took it back to the sprint store twice because the UI was so laggy I couldn't take it.
Decided to root and ROM. Flashed ICS and all lag was gone. JB is even better.
Gingerbread was horrendous for me.
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gb was ok. no lag or anything but I had flashed to page plus on stock el29 gb and was so afraid of upping to ics for fear of losing flash, I learned how to flash phones myself for the most part, which I didn't need personally because u never lose flash for it is stored in nvram and anyway best ics rom is either shadow God's universe, or sniper's lightweight, or the infamous blu kuban. best jb rom = shadow god's jellyverse for tw based, sniper's black beans rom for 4.2.
my personal favorite rom that I always come back to = PACman!
anyways, I didn't really experience much lag or anything from gb, ics, or jb
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I understand this is personal preference and bias, but you have to understand that these are still leaks. They have imperfections.
As far as battery life on gb vs jb, without tweaks, think of it like this.
You have a lawnmower engine (your battery) that runs great on your lawnmower (gb), then you decide to put that engine into a truck (jb) and you can't figure out why it doesn't work the same. Obviously the truck is much bigger, has more features, requires more resources right?
Its apples and oranges here man, a little research through existing threads will take you a long long way:beer:
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I understand this is personal preference and bias, but you have to understand that these are still leaks. They have imperfections.
As far as battery life on gb vs jb, without tweaks, think of it like this.
You have a lawnmower engine (your battery) that runs great on your lawnmower (gb), then you decide to put that engine into a truck (jb) and you can't figure out why it doesn't work the same. Obviously the truck is much bigger, has more features, requires more resources right?
Its apples and oranges here man, a little research through existing threads will take you a long long way:beer:
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but u can tweak the motor to handle the bigger load
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