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Hi,
i was wondering since i'm more in the PC area and i know more about overclocking that it can be done not only to gain CPU OC we can get also GPU OC.
Is it possible to get the same thing with the Sony Play ? since it does have a GPU so, can't we overclock that as well ?
regards,
LaBBa.
+1 Sice the Sensation GPU can be overclocked this may be able....
The xperia play does not have a dedicated GPU. Adreno the GPU is built into the CPU chipset thus overclocking the CPU also overclocks the GPU.
We have the adreno 205 GPU, the sensation is using adreno 220.
AndroHero said:
We have the adreno 205 GPU, the sensation is using adreno 220.
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I know but it is the same architecure, 220 is just one version newer.
Hello,
I read lots of articles about how the Tegra 3 only scores well in benchmarks because of its 4 cores, which are overkill in almost all real world scenarios. So I was interested to find out how the the Tegra 3 would do if you made it a Dual Core, like the S4.
I ran Antutu three times, running stock everything (except root), and the lowest I got was 7114.
I know it is not very reliable to use one benchmark, but in my opinion, neither is using quadrant which is made by Qualcomm.
I find it interesting to see that the Tegra 3 scores considerably more than the S4, even with the same number of cores.
What are your thoughts? What do you think caused this? What does it mean?
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Ram - 1202
CPU Integer - 2004
CPU Float - 1550
2D - 295
3D - 1242
Database - 475
SD Read - 150
SD Write - 196
not too sure why it would still win hands down *shrugs*
How does the real world speed with 2 cores disabled though?
And does it seem to save any battery if you've had it going for a while.
I've had it set to two cores only for a few days. It makes NO difference to anything but benchmark scores (even antutu still shows 60 FPS in the graphics tests). Games like Dark Meadow THD run exactly the same as before.
I'm not too sure how it has affected the battery life as I installed a mod that lowers the auto brightness at the same time. All I can say is the combination of the two has dramatically increased the life of the battery
So the GPU is bottleneck (surprise)
Which GPU are you referring it?
maybe the benchmark tests are yet to be fully optimised for 4 cores?
ORStoner said:
Hello,
I read lots of articles about how the Tegra 3 only scores well in benchmarks because of its 4 cores, which are overkill in almost all real world scenarios. So I was interested to find out how the the Tegra 3 would do if you made it a Dual Core, like the S4.
I ran Antutu three times, running stock everything (except root), and the lowest I got was 7114.
I know it is not very reliable to use one benchmark, but in my opinion, neither is using quadrant which is made by Qualcomm.
I find it interesting to see that the Tegra 3 scores considerably more than the S4, even with the same number of cores.
What are your thoughts? What do you think caused this? What does it mean?
Unable to upload screenshot:
Ram - 1202
CPU Integer - 2004
CPU Float - 1550
2D - 295
3D - 1242
Database - 475
SD Read - 150
SD Write - 196
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My guess is the reason the Tegra 3 with 2 cores running scores lower than the Snapdragon S4 is because the Tegra 3 has 4 A9 cores, whereas the Snapdragon has 2 cores that are closer to the A15 architecture, which is a faster chip. A15 will be quicker than A9 if the same number of cores are being used in each chipset.
My One X scores around 11000 with four cores and, as you can see, 7114 with two cores. In just curious to know why with two cores it scores around 1000 more than the S4 version?
thegregulator said:
My guess is the reason the Tegra 3 with 2 cores running scores lower than the Snapdragon S4 is because the Tegra 3 has 4 A9 cores, whereas the Snapdragon has 2 cores that are closer to the A15 architecture, which is a faster chip. A15 will be quicker than A9 if the same number of cores are being used in each chipset.
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I think you misunderstood, the Tegra with two A9 scored greater than the Snapdragon. If you were correct, I would not be as surprised as I am and would not have started this thread.
Out of curiosity what are you using to lock the 2 cores?
Wouldn't mind trying it out myself
Open root explorer.
Go to sys/kernel/debug/tegra_hotplug
Open max_cpus in text editor, change 4 to 2 or 3 (Single core does not work).
Open it again to check it has saved properly and it will go back to 4 the next time you reboot the phone.
You know Tegra 3 has 5 cores instead of 4 cores in the A9 architecture right? So you basically did the benchmark with 3 cores instead of 2.
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5th core is just a low clock speed / power to run idle tasks?
Doubt it would do much to a benchmark test.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the companion core can only be used on its own while the main processor is shut off. Even if it could 'assist' the main processor, it's only around 300mhz and would make very little difference to the score of a benchmark.
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You know Tegra 3 has 5 cores instead of 4 cores in the A9 architecture right? So you basically did the benchmark with 3 cores instead of 2.
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From what i know the 5th companion core is invisible to the system so 2 would be correct in the max_cpu edit.
I refer to my previous question which was why is the dual core tegra 3 doing BETTER than the dual core S4? Is it down to the GPU?
well that's revealing indeed, what's more interesting is how the included governors work
on-demand quad max 1400mhz conservative in jumping to max
interactive three cores only 1400mhz max jumps more often
performance three cores only locks at 1200mhz and jumps to 1400mhz on stress
glowball frame rate suffer badly when running less the 4 cores
you can see at default ondemand tegra3 is always juggling on 4 cores but rarely peaking to max clocks
While it indeed sucks as a useful tool, you should be aware that Quadrant is not a Qualcomm program...perhaps you're confusing it with the antiquated NeoCore benchmark. Vellamo is Qualcomm as well.
Sorry Vellano is Qualcomm not Quadrant. My mistake.
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I refer to my previous question which was why is the dual core tegra 3 doing BETTER than the dual core S4? Is it down to the GPU?
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If you are referring to the s4 in the htc one s then id like to know where you got your information indicating that the tegra is still faster in dual core when in quad the s4 still out performs it. The s4 scores over 12000 compared to 11500 that the tegra does and well over 7000 that it does in dual core mode....
The older a9 however found in older phones such as the sensation is another story with that chip scoring in about 6500
I am a big fan of benchmarks but are there are really important
Please say what Kenel are you using.
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It really depends what you find important and what's useless. Its just for the certain few enthusiasts who like tweaking their devices and testing out different values to achieve a higher benchmark score and brag about it. I'm one of them although for the Note 2 I see little or no difference in performance when comparing between an over clocked and a stock setting.
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Some people are disagree with overclock some not, benchmark are high only with overclock but if they are not important what are the reason?
I personally think that having a benchmark with a phones overclock settings turned on is the best way to see the true strength of a phone.
Some phones being overclocked do not even come close to other phones with out it being overclocked
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So overclock or no overclock?
What you prefer?
When it comes to mobile phones, be it a ultra top end smartphone, absolutely not.
Swyped from my GT-N7100
for me, benchmark is only for fun and push it to the best performance of Note 2.
but for daily i still overclocked, 1.8GHz
it was stable and response very well..
Good way to compare devices. Although I do not overclock for my daily usage.
They are not for everyday thing but they tell their stories. For example I am a GPU comparison addict. I believe the GPUs are the first aging parts of the chipsets and if the GPU is not enough no matter what CPU or phone it is, it will fade away quickly. So when I am choosing a product I take one of the Nexus devices as a reference. For my Note 2, my referance was Nexus 7. Sİnce it will be getting at least 1.5 year support (the worst scenerio) Note will run any game for that time period.
So GLbenchmark comes in. Then it lets us to compare Nexus 4 and Note 2. What we can learn from it is, for example, Mali 400 is better for higher resolutions since 1080p and 720p results are same. Mali 400s quad core processors are so powerfull that they can not be effected by MSAAx4 or higher resolutions where Adreno 320 tenst to slow down however it has a bottle neck on the pixel processor side and it gets stuck on the Egypt 2.5 test no matter how much we OC it. So newer games will be a problem for Note 2 we can say. For the more older-coded games which are still close to the Egypt 2.1 side Adreno barely has %5-7 advantage over the Mali 400 so no problem for a long time.
Thanks for reply:good:
Hey guys, I have an international HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10's 20.01.2012 nightly build (Jellybean 4.1.2) without any overclocking. I just did a benchmark with AnTuTu v3 and got an overall score of 14770. Looking at AnTuTu's website, an average One X seems to be scoring only 10288 so I guess my phone is doing well, although for some reason, on the actual AnTuTu app's ranking page, the One X is scoring an overall of 14022 so it's actually much closer.
But when looking at the scores in detail, it looks like my phone's 3D Graphics is only scoring 3087 compared to an average score of 3907 on other people's results and my Database IO (don't know what that is) is only 125 compared to 550 on other people's One X. Does anyone know why my phone might be under-performing in these areas? Thanks a lot!
PS. According to xda-developers' description of the One X, it's supposed to have an ARM Cortex A9 processor whereas in AnTuTu, my CPU model is listed as a Quad-Core ARMv7 Processor (VFPv3, NEON). Are they the same thing?
Hi,
I got this tablet a few days ago and so far I am quite happy with it. Im using CM11 with ElamentalX's kernel.
I know the Nexus 7 2013 has an S4 Pro, or basicly a Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) but underclocked.
My mobile has a Snapdragon 400 (MSM8926)
So shouldn't the Tablet's CPU be more powerful?
My Phone scores much better in Quadrant than my Nexus 7 in the CPU area. I know its only a benchmark etc but it still confuses me a little.
Is it just a case of the ARM Cortex A-7 Cores in my phone @1.2Ghz are newer and better than the Krait 300 cores in the Nexus 7?
I have overclocked the CPU in my Nexus 7 to see how it affects performance and while a 2.1Ghz OC seems stable it still can not catch up to the Snapdragon 400 in my phone.
Seansmit17 said:
Hi,
I got this tablet a few days ago and so far I am quite happy with it. Im using CM11 with ElamentalX's kernel.
I know the Nexus 7 2013 has an S4 Pro, or basicly a Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) but underclocked.
My mobile has a Snapdragon 400 (MSM8926)
So shouldn't the Tablet's CPU be more powerful?
My Phone scores much better in Quadrant than my Nexus 7 in the CPU area. I know its only a benchmark etc but it still confuses me a little.
Is it just a case of the ARM Cortex A-7 Cores in my phone @1.2Ghz are newer and better than the Krait 300 cores in the Nexus 7?
I have overclocked the CPU in my Nexus 7 to see how it affects performance and while a 2.1Ghz OC seems stable it still can not catch up to the Snapdragon 400 in my phone.
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Trust me, benchmarks are just a bunch of scores that DOES NOT represent the smoothness/ real performance of a phone. Even if your phone scores higher, do not worry. Some device manufacturers find loopholes in benchmarks to increase their score.
Also sometimes, the performance also depends upon optimisation of the ROM.
I am using 1.3ghz underclocked with ElementalX. Trust me, my nexus works liquid smooth on latest CM 11 snapshot with that settings.
I would not say that benchmarks DO NOT MATTER AT ALL, however, they do show some of capacities of a phone hardware. However, software implementation is also very important. In a nutcase, you should not worry about benchmarks as simple as that.
Hnk1 says it all, why do you even care about benchmarks?? You want to confuse yourself for fun?
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