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When this happend in the hero section about the eclair update the active mod deleted all these stupid rumor threads about the update and made one sticky at the top of the page where everyone could discuss the latest rumours without it affecting day to day forum busness, he also made it clear that any other threads about the update would be deleted!! can we not do this here too? do we even have a mod? every other thread seems to be about it we are along way from a froyo update i think, not only do htc have to get sence workin on a whole new os, there gunna want to make a new radio, hboot and recovery just like every other update, that means were months away from the update not days like some ppl think, can we please sort this out befor the desire forum gets ruined with spam
Congratulations on starting another one.
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Congratulations on starting another one.
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this thread has nothing to do with froyo, its trying to get mods to clean up the desire section
i'm inclined to agree with this sentiment, we should have a discussion thread and then once its finally released we can have as many as we want
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I have to agree with this. You have just opened a pointless thread to have a rant. The fact froyo is in the title, people will now use it to discuss why it's not out, and when they will have it, and whether or not it will make their washing machine spin faster.
If you feel so strongly about the threads, then use the report a post button and bring them to the mods attention.
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I have to agree with this. You have just opened a pointless thread to have a rant. The fact froyo is in the title, people will now use it to discuss why it's not out, and when they will have it, and whether or not it will make their washing machine spin faster.
If you feel so strongly about the threads, then use the report a post button and bring them to the mods attention.
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its not a rant its an idea, and its 10 times more productive than urs and that other blokes post, fyi you cant report a post unless its spam or breaking the rules
I'm fairly sure that the rules state you should read and search before posting, all the pointless froyo threads would fall into that category.
Report away
that rule would count for half the posts on the website tho lol plus the search sucks on xda, ive spent hours searching for a thread that i knew existed lol
This is a good idea. It works well on other forums - Ubuntu forums, for instance, have a 'recurring discussions' section for each forum where similar threads are bunched together (usually *****ing about Mono, or comparing Ubuntu to OSX/Windows).
What we really need is a "Rumours" subforum, for all the b/s Froyo/Update threads!
That way, they can still be posted, but I can safely ignore them!
Regards,
Dave
Some such solution would be very welcome. Currently, it is quite pathetic.
As for the search before posting... every second/third day I'm seeing the same issues with new threads here. This is the worst I've seen on any well established forum since 1999 back in the Icrontic days. On the last such occurrence, the OP says he's searched and read countless threads while two threads below covers the same issue perfectly. This is just inane.
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How stupid. If people want to start a thread, than its upto them. Post away all froyo froyo..... froyo
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I totally agree about deleting all the pointless threads.
Some of them are from stupid newbies who are too lazy to even look 2 threads down let alone do an actual search!
Froyo threads should be deleted and anyone starting one until HTC makes an announcement should get a week ban.
There is already a FROYO discussion thread which is fine to discuss the OS / features etc, but not constant posts by idiots asking for release dates and what not.
I agree... i think we should stop all this speculation regarding the official OTA update of Froyo on the Desire. It has recently been confirmed that the update will be around Q3 of this year, and i think it's pointless for people to continue to post threads about it. We just have to be a little more patient and hope it will arrive in time.
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I would more than welcome a stronger hand by the moderators. Failing that, a chit-chat/rumors section, but I think if people are so dumb to post this stuff 10x times, they are bound as well to post it in the wrong section (see the degree of spamming of the development section).
And NO - this thread is very useful and relevant, I would have started myself
Sorry, just tripped over this thread. Is Froyo out yet? I heard it was due to be released on the 29th Feb next year.
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Hi sort of agree, however this is the 'General' desire forum - where anything can be discussed! But yes a rumour or one thread for rumours update at the top may help.
However where do you draw the line??? look how many other threads repeat the same things!
I dont think its so bad in general section - I sort of expect it here - plus freedom of speach and no forum gestapo is nice
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Sorry, just tripped over this thread. Is Froyo out yet? I heard it was due to be released on the 29th Feb next year.
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The lastes new from htc is that the froyo rollout will start sometime during, the 3rd quater of this year
Moderation on this forum is poor - there are so many repetative threads that its becomming full of the same old thing day after day. Many are not adhering to the rules of the forum - search first and if you dont find your answer then ask! Carrying out searchs on this forum now means that information is spread across so many discussion threads that it becomes non effective; maybe a reason why new threads are now starting up each day asking the same question?
In order to ensure this forum is useful, comprehensive and easy to search, surely its not too much to ask?
Just a thought - i dont think i have ever seen a mod edit, apart from moving of a thread - not like the HD2 forum!
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Moderation on this forum is poor - there are so many repetative threads that its becomming full of the same old thing day after day. Many are not adhering to the rules of the forum - search first and if you dont find your answer then ask! Carrying out searchs on this forum now means that information is spread across so many discussion threads that it becomes non effective; maybe a reason why new threads are now starting up each day asking the same question?
In order to ensure this forum is useful, comprehensive and easy to search, surely its not too much to ask?
Just a thought - i dont think i have ever seen a mod edit, apart from moving of a thread - not like the HD2 forum!
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when i used to have a htc hd, the forum had two mods and they was always about, and they used to comment on threads and keep the forum clean ect, i dont think xda give a **** about the android forums
Hi all,
This will probably get deleted, but I'm just trying to contribute to discussion and get around what I consider a poor thought-out rule at the same time.
I am a long time reader, particularly of the [ROM] ICS 4.0.4 BCM RC3.4U0 GSM/CDMA <2012-05-19> (Bravo CM9 HWA) thread, but first time poster.
I consider myself to know more about the topic than a large number of the posters in that thread, though I certainly don't have knowledge on the subject anywhere near that than the experts in the thread. However, there have been many times when I have had the answer to someone's question, but have not been able to post.
The reason I cannot post is because the thread is limited to users who have made 10 or more posts. I can understand the need to filter out people who are asking the same question over and over again, but in doing so you filter out those who can genuinely contribute to the discussion. Just because I am not an active member in other forums of XDA, does not mean I am not able contribute to this thread.
So now, I have what I consider a reasonable question for the author of the thread, or another expert who may come across it. This question hasn't been asked before, and it bothers me that I cannot ask it. Other people may also benefit from me asking and receiving an answer to this question.
I thought about just creating 10 pointless posts in the general forum, but decided that would benefit no one. So here is my contribution to these forums, followed my 9 pointless posts. Kidding, I'll see whether I get responses to this and respond accordingly myself.
Thanks for reading.
Regards,
Shaun
P.S. I have to wait 5 minutes between editing posts as a new user to prevent spam? I've been here 5 months and not once posted anything, let alone spam.
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Hi all,
This will no doubt get deleted, but I'm just trying to contribute to discussion and get around what I consider a poor thought-out rule at the same time.
I am a long time reader, particularly of the [ROM] ICS 4.0.4 BCM RC3.4U0 GSM/CDMA <2012-05-19> (Bravo CM9 HWA) thread, but first time poster.
I consider myself to know more about the topic than a large number of the posters in that thread, though I certainly don't have knowledge on the subject anywhere near that than the experts in the thread. However, there have been many times when I have had the answer to someone's question, but have not been able to post.
The reason I cannot post is because the thread is limited to users who have made 10 or more posts. I can understand the need to filter out people who are asking the same question over and over again, but in doing so you filter out those who can genuinely contribute to the discussion. Just because I am not an active member in other forums of XDA, does not mean I am not able contribute to this thread.
So now, I have what I consider a reasonable question for the author of the thread, or another expert who may come across it. This question hasn't been asked before, and it bothers me that I cannot ask it. Other people may also benefit from me asking and receiving an answer to this question.
I thought about just creating 10 pointless posts in the general forum, but decided that would benefit no one. So here is my contribution to these forums, followed my 9 pointless posts. Kidding, I'll see whether I get responses to this and respond accordingly myself
Thanks for reading.
Regards,
Shaun
P.S. I have to wait 5 minutes between editing posts as a new user to prevent spam? I've been here 5 months and not once posted anything, let alone spam.
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If you know more about that topic, then you could have been sharing it all those months, by just making a few posts in your device's General thread. Or in it's Q&A thread. Or in a thread in the General Forum here. Or in the Off Topic forum. Pity.
Here is excellent advice on how to achieve 10 (and more) QUALITY posts.
Welcome to XDA.
One other thing, Dev threads are for development. If you want to help more people, start a thread like this one in your device Q&A area. You will be amazed at how many people you can help there.
Thanks for your response, the link you gave was interesting and I should have looked for such information prior to posting. Considering I was quite blunt, I appreciate your helpful explanation.
Personally I still feel the rule is limiting many people from contributing from discussion that would otherwise get involved. I know there aren't exactly any other solutions to reduce the number of repeat questions, but my opinion is that more discussion is better than less, provided it is on-topic (even if it may be a "stupid" question).
I'll admit I'm not here explicitly to share my knowledge, I am here to gain knowledge for myself. I think most users here would be the same, although obviously there is a great community here that are not just in it for themselves. But if I see someone struggling with something that I know the answer to, I would be pleased to have the opportunity to give them a hand and give back in that manner, rather than lurk in silence.
I also do not consider myself an expert in any area XDA relates to. However having read the entire thread, referenced in the first post, over the months it has been contributed to, I consider myself able to help out there more than anywhere else on XDA. The Q&A type thread you mentioned is not specific to the knowledge I have gained from following the thread and it seems to more sensible to me to give my knowledge back to people where they will be looking for it.
As an aside, I'm not sure how much I would even consider the thread a development thread. For the most part it is one person developing (combined with his using work from other developers etc). What he does is excellent, no doubt about that, but it is basically him alone developing. The thread itself is mainly substantiated of feedback to improve to ROM or questions on any issues or the like. It is not used for collaboration as such. Any additional discussion would not hinder development collaboration, rather it would allow for more feedback for the developer and more knowledge for users of the ROM.
Thanks again for your reponse mf2112.
To be honest, I'm not sure what I thought I may achieve by posting here, as I'm sure you've seen it all before. So that said, if you wish to finish the discussion here that's fine by me, but if you do have more to add, I'd be happy to hear it.
Thanks.
I'm just like you, struggling to get something more in this forum. Just never give up.
The first few post restrictions are mostly for spam control. Otherwise new accounts would be opened and we would be flooded with spam posts advertising stuff in every forum.
Your device appears to be the HTC Desire from the ROM link. If you want to learn more, check out the other Desire subforums. Knowledge is everywhere on XDA.
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I'm just like you, struggling to get something more in this forum. Just never give up.
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Excellent advice.
im not gonna lie i dont even know what the 10 post rule is?
yeah o course im thinking the obvious but im normally checking stuff before i do any actions anyway?
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im not gonna lie i dont even know what the 10 post rule is?
yeah o course im thinking the obvious but im normally checking stuff before i do any actions anyway?
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The 10 post rule is for dev forums. If you have less than 10 then it is supposed to stop you from posting there, however it seems not to be enforced sometimes in some dev threads.
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Similar situation here, but the rule is pretty standard at a lot of forums. Nothing to do about it but try to make 10 productive posts. Here's my first one. I noticed that the introduction threads are in each device forum, so an intro for each device will put me pretty close.
I'm a huge fan of the XDA community, and like the OP, I've been reading different threads for months. Looking forward to learning with you guys and hopefully contributing eventually. My experience in the field is limited, I learned basic web development in the early 2000s and have barely kept those skills up in the last decade.
Rooted EVO 4G - off contract, used mostly by 4 year old
Wife has stock EVO 3D - had S-ON root but got it put back to stock for her
I have an unlocked and rooted Motorola Photon, running CW7
Asus Transformer running stock ICS
Samsung Galaxy 10.1" running stock HC
I'll be getting an EVO View in a few days, will update at that time.
i too am a long time member here in XDA, since i got the XDA II hmmmm or was it the casiopia
anyways i recently became active just this 2012 when i got my hands on the HD2 - what a magnificent phone & there are alot of magnificent devs & chef here in XDA.
just by asking a lot of "meaningful" question i got through the hurdles of flashing & upgrading & even made my own tutorial for the ultra noob's
whatever Rule or Restriction that is in placed now is for the good of the site & it's user after all this is a FREE Forum/ site & at the same time you get to learn from some of the greatest.
now this is something else lol
fastest way to reach 10 post in just a few hours ot minutes
test (thread 1 2)
Originally Posted By: anserinae
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666667
mengfei said:
now this is something else lol
fastest way to reach 10 post in just a few hours ot minutes
test (thread 1 2)
Originally Posted By: anserinae
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666667
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That's a pretty quick way of finding yourself unable to post anywhere ever again.
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this 10 post rule has infuriated me. All it does is force people to spam so they can voice their concerns about a rom in a thread only allowing 10+ posters
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this 10 post rule has infuriated me. All it does is force people to spam so they can voice their concerns about a rom in a thread only allowing 10+ posters
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Forced to spam???
Forced?
If people feel the need to spam to reach ten posts then I dare say that they have nothing worth contributing to a development forum.
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mf2112 said:
The 10 post rule is for dev forums. If you have less than 10 then it is supposed to stop you from posting there, however it seems not to be enforced sometimes in some dev threads.
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If you happen to have joined XDA prior to 2007 then the 10 post rule doesn't apply... I believe....
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this 10 post rule has infuriated me. All it does is force people to spam so they can voice their concerns about a rom in a thread only allowing 10+ posters
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Well, let's look at it this way. What happens when you start to look for threads you can contribute to? You start to post and be a contributing member of XDA instead of a leech. No one likes leeches - they suck the life from XDA. So why don't you take that fury that you evidently are feeling and turn that into a force to be reckoned with? Become someone who is known for contributing.
I understand being frustrated by the limit. However, once I decided I wanted to post in the dev forums, it took me less than two days to make 10 good posts. Two days sounds like a lot, but I would take that anyday to keep these forums as clean and awesome as they are.
The moderators already take on a huge responsibility - look at how many threads end up getting locked because someone gets on here and asks the experts to draw up a 20-step program for their own personal use instead of taking a few hours to read and process the large amount of content that is already here. Imagine how much worse this would be is such posts were also mucking up the dev forums.
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Well, let's look at it this way. What happens when you start to look for threads you can contribute to? You start to post and be a contributing member of XDA instead of a leech. No one likes leeches - they suck the life from XDA. So why don't you take that fury that you evidently are feeling and turn that into a force to be reckoned with? Become someone who is known for contributing.
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That is exactly what happened to me when I started here a few months ago. I wanted to post a question in a Sensation dev thread, ran into the limit, and now just a few months later, I am on here for hours every day in my "jobby" helping people in various threads in multiple forums.
It's really easy to get 10 posts in less than an hour. Just answer some questions in q&a and general and yes, if can't easily answer any questions on this entire forum, then you really shouldn't be posting anything. Ever.
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If you happen to have joined XDA prior to 2007 then the 10 post rule doesn't apply... I believe....
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Must be later than that, here is someone's very first post and it is in a dev thread and he joined XDA in Feb 2010.
mf2112 said:
Must be later than that, here is someone's very first post and it is in a dev thread and he joined XDA in Feb 2010.
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Hi,
First of all...Don't kill me
Since a few weeks there is a upsurge of recurrent threads like "What is the best rom","What is the best kernel","What is the best rom for battery life",What is the best kernel for battery life" or "Help me to choose a (best) kernel/rom"...
There was this kind of topics 3/4 times a day in General and Q&A section...For me it gets boring every day the same threads.
There is not that the rom or the kernel that comes into account about battery life for example,but the settings,the usage,etc...But always (or almost) in these threads the reply is just "x kernel","xx kernel","x rom","xx rom",etc...without more detail...Makes no sense...
There are almost many answers as there are different kernel+all the different settings (CPU freq,GPU freq,undervolt,hotplug,etc...)+the rom used+your personnal settings (sync,brightness,widgets,wifi,etc...)+your use...,Etc...
Many of these threads have a dozen answers then they are forgotten and the OP never comes back and does not even give feedback...
What's the point?
With a little search in both General and Q&A section there are some recent threads,rather important (in term of number's reply) and detailed for it to be useful...
Why not post again in one of these threads to move up and continue the discussion into a central thread...
It's so complicated searched a bit,read existing threads,test by itself or form an opinion by reading other feedback?
There would be no threads regarding these question,ok no worries,but right now there are many,way too much this kind of topics...
These threads are very subjective as the answers and reflects nothing...Almost the time nothing is known of the usage/settings of the OP than the guy who answer,just a name of kernel or rom...
And nothing is says about "Best kernel/rom" or "Best battery life"...What does that mean exactly ...? Unspecified:nothing,therefore unnecessary threads...
Ok, we're here to help,advise and give notice but not 10 times a day the same thing especially that with a minimum of research and reading...there is a response...
Sorry for this topic,if it does not please->trash...
Just so everyone make an effort and you can not see all the time the same thing with the same answers when there is already threads...
And if you do not like... do not read ... This is what I do ,but when I naviguate in General or Q&A section...and when I see the titles of all these threads it bothers me to navigate through all these threads and to see new interesting topics between all of these topics to see 3/4 of interresting...
Thanks
PS:sorry for my English about some phrases.
Sticky please.
I 100% agree with you. Unfortunately it will never stop.
I made a rant similar to yours in January (see signature) and there are still 3-5 new "I bricked my phone plz help!!!!!!!!" threads a day.
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Damn I was thinking of making this last night before I fell asleep but you beat me :'(
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Sticky please.
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The irony will come when another "Recurring threads" post pops up next week
Agreed. Lazy people will be lazy.
Just report the thread, do we really need another please use the search thread?
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Sticky please.
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Already stickied in the posting rules thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19177654&postcount=2
Unfortunately, with 1 million + members you get to see a fairly good cross section of humanity. That includes those that won't listen to instructions, those that need spoon feeding and those that genuinely need help.
Oh, and those that give useless replys to threads (Get that in before anyone else does)
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Hi,
Thanks for your opinion.
@phatmanxxl,and...?I know there is already a sticky but I presented it differently,not just a rule.Like I said if it does not please->trash.
@killyouridols,yes you're right...
Each gives his opinion ...Perfect,maybe someone can convince me that I'm wrong and that this multitude of threads is not a "problem" or is not annoying
I have not asked for a sticky or anything else,I just gave my opinion on something annoying for me (and maybe for others).
Of course the mods can not do everything but a central thread would not hurt,like other threads (homescreens,pictures,benchs,etc...).
And:
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Thinking of posting a new thread???
Use the search button on the top bar between "New Posts" and "Quick Links"
If any mod, including myself, continue to find new threads about topics that have threads already existing.
The thread will be locked with no notice and/or up to a temp BAN!!.
Mods, including myself, are not here to keep the forum organized after the fact, we need your help to keep it organized, clean and grouped.
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Actually it's not the case,recurrent threads are still there and they are mushrooming ("ils poussent comme des champignons" ).
Of course already seen with my thread but a little reminder...There is less about like mine as there are those that I describe.
In this section we also see topics that have nothing to do...
Feel free to the mods to delete or lock this thread for convenience.
The answer is to refer them to a link with the proper discussion then report the thread as redundant and one of us mods will come and lock it.
Thanks
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
i agree with above me
The fact is, everyone that posts these "which _______ is best for battery/performance/stability" are usually quite new to this world. And they do not realize even a little bit that there is NO SINGLE answer to that question. Hell, there isn't even a round about general few answers to those questions. It is ALL COMPLETELY dependent on your use of device and the environment the device is in (i.e. Signal reception, apps on device, etc...) So much so that any other persons set up will usually NEVER give you the same results. People worry to much about finding "The best ______" and not enough about just enjoying the device AND enjoying the experience of the quest to find your OWN "perfect setup". And even when you DO find your own perfect set up, you are just going to keep wondering if there is something else that could make it better.
So what happens is they come here, and most likely they've SEEN these "which ______ is best", threads, BUT they see all the amounts of different responses and combinations without much details and decide "maybe if i ask I'll get a different answer catered to what I'm looking for" type of mind set. They are just confused as to the amount of different setups they saw in these other threads regarding a best set up since there isn't any details.
What they SHOULD come away from those threads thinking is something more along the lines of "Wow, there is so many different opinions on the best set up that i should just get to experimenting for myself" that is really all that they should do in the first place. It can be a bit intimidating to steyel into the development forum and see the multitude of roms, kernels, tweaks, that EACH have there own following of users that swear by them and it's easy to be lost on where to start. They don't realize that they can just choose a few things to flash and try them out, and then move along quite easily to another setup. They just don't realize how easy it is to just flash another ROM or kernel or whatever and just go at it. These users who post these types of threads are usually afraid of the prospect of bricking their brand new $500 device. Yes that risk is always present, but if it was something that happened very often due to a certain set up its something that you would have read about and info would be easily found on what NOT too use.
These types of threads will never go away unless as stated by the moderator above, REPORT(why is everyone SO AFRAID to press that report button??!!)and point the OP to a thread already established about the same thing. threads don't have to be vulgar/spam/etc... To warrant a report/deletion/maintenance....
So that's the Lesson of today. Be vigilant and report those threads if you want to see a cleaner forum. They will never NOT be posted, it's just the nature of people to want to be told what's best in a reply directed to them personally.
(BY THE WAY, can anyone tell me what's the best thread to read to find out what the best ROM/kernel setup is? Thankyou..../sarcasm )
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Cool story bro
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Cool story bro
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I thought you might like that
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Can anyone tell me which thread is the best to read about repeat threads regarding what is the best anything about something knowing nothing?
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Can anyone tell me which thread is the best to read about repeat threads regarding what is the best anything about something knowing nothing?
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I beat ya to it....
NINJA'd!! Lol
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Yes. <fist pumps> . Now instead of searching for recurring thread i can just make another "recurring thread" and all is normal on xda!
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Hi guys! I deliver this phone yesterday.
It uses stock 2.3.5 and I want to upgrade a newer version.
I see many roms but really do not know which to use with.
As for my expectations from rom. I need as everybody stability, performance and good battery life.
I need your opinions.
From now thanx for your advices.
If you bothered to read any stickied thread in this forum you'd have an answer for this.. It amazes me how not one person reads forum rules or stickies before asking the same question daily...
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NFleck said:
If you bothered to read any stickied thread in this forum you'd have an answer for this.. It amazes me how not one person reads forum rules or stickies before asking the same question daily...
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Reading stickies/forum rules aside; if you're gonna ask a question that's been asked a hundred times before, why not, at the very least, revive one of the multiple dozens of threads where that question has been asked already instead of creating more useless clutter in an already irreparably cluttered board?
Hey, at least he's not asking how to root, or what's with the error after flashing CWM over official ICS
Lol. Yeah that's true.. Its funny if you go back to the sub forum there's (estimate without actually checking) probably about 5 asking what's the best ROM, or how do I root.. Meanwhile there's like 2 or 3 stickies explaining it... In the same exact page!
Um all for forum activity, and a live forum is definitely better than a dead one but come on people seriously.. I'm not trying to be a jerk and sorry if it comes off that way but I've only been a registered member for not even a year and it does get frustrating. Just try to read some posts before making a dumb one.. If you have a question its pretty much guaranteed its been answered.
The forum rules, which are actually a global announcement if I'm not mistaken; clearly state that if you're too lazy to experiment with the ROMs and find out for yourself which one is best then this isn't the right place for you.. And I wholeheartedly agree. I've only had the p930 since last November or so and I've been testing ROMs since day one and I've never once had to ask how to root or which ROM to use... That's the whole fun/enjoyment of android dev IMO.
There's my two cents. If you honestly still can't find an answer then there's probably no hope. Get a friend to mod your phone.. Lol
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Lol. Yeah that's true.. Its funny if you go back to the sub forum there's (estimate without actually checking) probably about 5 asking what's the best ROM, or how do I root.. Meanwhile there's like 2 or 3 stickies explaining it... In the same exact page!
Um all for forum activity, and a live forum is definitely better than a dead one but come on people seriously.. I'm not trying to be a jerk and sorry if it comes off that way but I've only been a registered member for not even a year and it does get frustrating. Just try to read some posts before making a dumb one.. If you have a question its pretty much guaranteed its been answered.
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My conclusion is that the "Search this forum" box doesn't seem to appear for 95% of the people... I mean, that's the only logical explanation, right?
lordcheeto03 said:
My conclusion is that the "Search this forum" box doesn't seem to appear for 95% of the people... I mean, that's the only logical explanation, right?
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Seems that way eh...
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I asked a simple question, and need an opinion. Absolutely I had searched the forum,
there are so many different q/a posts. I have just confused.
Yes. I don't ask how to root or flash. I'm not new on android.
Maybe I know more than you think.
I this is the way you help other peoples who need help.
This is your satisfactionary.
If you don't want to help, just don't type anything. Let it be blank,
So may the others can share their opinions.
And I didn't post for you to chat here. You can send eachother pm (acording your thoughts) about people who want an opinion.
Btw. I don't need your opinion.
ibrahim244 said:
I asked a simple question, and need an opinion. Absolutely I had searched the forum,
there are so many different q/a posts. I have just confused.
Yes. I don't ask how to root or flash. I'm not new on android.
Maybe I know more than you think.
I this is the way you help other peoples who need help.
This is your satisfactionary.
If you don't want to help, just don't type anything. Let it be blank,
So may the others can share their opinions.
And I didn't post for you to chat here. You can send eachother pm (acording your thoughts) about people who want an opinion.
Btw. I don't need your opinion.
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Look, I'm glad to have you as a part of the community; there is not one single person who shouldn't be a part of what we have here. All I'm saying is that, instead of posting a new thread to ask a question that has been thoroughly covered in multiple other threads; why not, at the very least, revive an old thread for this purpose instead of adding more clutter to an already cluttered board? It's posts like this which are the reason that there are "already so many different q/a posts."
I never said or implied that you were new to Android, and I never once said or implied that you were ignorant when it comes to Android devices. Believe me, I'm far from knowing anywhere near what I would like to know; but I guarantee you that almost every single question that has been, and will be asked on this board has already been covered multiple times; including "which rom is best". The development section has discussions covering the bugs and gremlins for every ROM released for this device via XDA. No real need to read every single page of each threads, just skim the last few pages and you'll get an idea of where the ROMs stand in their current form.
With that being said, I DO apologize for being a complete jackass and for the tone which I put across; but the sentiment remains.
Also, I have put forth an answer buried in my reply here; although it is a little verbose and requires you to do a little more leg-work to form your own opinion... which is what counts the most.
The answers you seek are on the very page you posted this in...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206596
^ There you go.
If you want the latest Android experience (4.22), the best all around bet is probably the unofficial PAC-ROM + Wind kernel 1.7 or 1.8. Bluetooth works pretty well, I think the only bugs are the other common CM10.1 ones- 1080p recording crashes, hitting the power button while in the camera app crashes. If you don't care about bluetooth and just want speed and battery, check out JellyBAM- it is slightly less stable than PAC but it flies.
If you are ok with ICS (4.0X) then HO!NO!'s CM9, Liquid Nitro or HO!NO!'s V20f are solid.
But in the future, search around and do a lot of research before posting a question- on most forums it annoys the members to be answering the same questions repeatedly
OP no, just try for yourself....
A thread dedicated to this has its problems.
First off, its huge. You cant look at someone that maybe has the same requirements as you and see what other people said about it. A typical example is a lot of people that want to switch to a Nexus phone. It would be easier to search for that in that section, see what people say and then not have to make the same thing again
Second, way too many posts. Similar to one but if the thread is on page 1000 and some posts a thread saying "What phone do I get?" later another 10 people post the same thing and we are on page 1001. Everything on page 1000 gets lost because noone looks thru them. You would have to double post.
A dedicated section where people can post threads on what device they are look for wouldnt clutter the forums and would let everyone express what they are looking for.
@riahc3, instead of making new threads, please consider posting your recommendations in this thread dedicated to that purpose.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@riahc3, instead of making new threads, please consider posting your recommendations in this thread dedicated to that purpose.
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...did you even read my post...?
riahc3 said:
...did you even read my post...?
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I most certainly did.
...did you even click on the link and find out what thread I asked you to post in...?
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@riahc3, instead of making new threads, please consider posting your recommendations in this thread dedicated to that purpose.
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ИΘΘK¡€ said:
I most certainly did.
...did you even click on the link and find out what thread I asked you to post in...?
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You are redirecting me to a similar thread with the same problem; It is a bit more understandable as the staff should read every single suggestion and respond to them.
The device thread is stupid because it is by members for members. There is no obligation.
Basically you are answering my request for a solution to a thread with a problem by redirecting me to a thread with the same problem. Thats why I doubt you read my post.
riahc3 said:
You are redirecting me to a similar thread with the same problem; It is a bit more understandable as the staff should read every single suggestion and respond to them.
The device thread is stupid because it is by members for members. There is no obligation.
Basically you are answering my request for a solution to a thread with a problem by redirecting me to a thread with the same problem. Thats why I doubt you read my post.
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Ah, I see your point. Touché, my good sir.
I just recommended you posting this request in that thread because as moderators and admins frequent that thread more than the About XDA forum as a whole, your opinion might get seen and considered more quickly than in this individual thread.
riahc3 said:
A thread dedicated to this has its problems.
First off, its huge. You cant look at someone that maybe has the same requirements as you and see what other people said about it. A typical example is a lot of people that want to switch to a Nexus phone. It would be easier to search for that in that section, see what people say and then not have to make the same thing again
Second, way too many posts. Similar to one but if the thread is on page 1000 and some posts a thread saying "What phone do I get?" later another 10 people post the same thing and we are on page 1001. Everything on page 1000 gets lost because noone looks thru them. You would have to double post.
A dedicated section where people can post threads on what device they are look for wouldnt clutter the forums and would let everyone express what they are looking for.
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Firstly, there are 3 threads dedicated towards this subject. You're well aware of this because you've been told this, and have posted in one. And now you're complaining again, because your question, which you have already asked wasn't immediately after you posted it after the majority of people qualified to (re)answer your question are in bed, asleep.
Secondly, your "solution" of dedicating a forum for individual threads is hardly a solution. Your complaint is that posts get buried and never get answered. For one thing, this is not true. For another thing, if this is your complaint, what the heck makes you think that dozens of individual threads won't get buried? With the combined amount of posts in these threads, every day would create a new page or 2 in a subforum if they were made as individual threads. It's the same "problem", only multiplied and organized into a subforum rather than a few dedicated threads. Furthermore, it's very easy for me to read through new posts in a thread, but far more tedious to open multiple threads to read and perhaps reply individually, whereas in a single thread I can multi-quote and make several replies easily and in a tidy manner.
I think it's fine just the way it is. If anything, 3 is too many threads, since 2 of them are quite redundant, but since they're both in Q&A sections, (one General, one Android), I can see the reasoning for having one in each, if only to keep down on the clutter you insist you're entitled to making.
Wanna know what device to get? It is simple. Do your research and pic a device that fits what you need it to do. Flashing roms are not important, what devices works for others is not important. It is all up to you and what you plan on to do with the device. If you main plan is to flash roms with it then you might want to rethink the need for it.
There is no need for another forum.
If your not willing to read threw threads then you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you have an issue with said device and dont search and read threw to find the answer and then ask it anyway you are asking to be flamed to no end.
Remember this is a developers site.
zelendel said:
Wanna know what device to get? It is simple. Do your research and pic a device that fits what you need it to do. Flashing roms are not important, what devices works for others is not important. It is all up to you and what you plan on to do with the device. If you main plan is to flash roms with it then you might want to rethink the need for it.
There is no need for another forum.
If your not willing to read threw threads then you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you have an issue with said device and dont search and read threw to find the answer and then ask it anyway you are asking to be flamed to no end.
Remember this is a developers site.
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Well said.
riahc3 said:
A thread dedicated to this has its problems.
First off, its huge. You cant look at someone that maybe has the same requirements as you and see what other people said about it. A typical example is a lot of people that want to switch to a Nexus phone. It would be easier to search for that in that section, see what people say and then not have to make the same thing again
Second, way too many posts. Similar to one but if the thread is on page 1000 and some posts a thread saying "What phone do I get?" later another 10 people post the same thing and we are on page 1001. Everything on page 1000 gets lost because noone looks thru them. You would have to double post.
A dedicated section where people can post threads on what device they are look for wouldnt clutter the forums and would let everyone express what they are looking for.
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Second (clutter) thread I have addressed of yours...
Why not post your thoughts here to the Admins & Moderators, vice making a new thread (clutter)....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
And or read Zel's Post #8 of this thread.