[Q] Difference between Media Server and Google Music? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I'm a bit confused regarding battery usage and certain processes. Specifically, media server and the Google Music app. I've done some searching and am still unsure.
From what I've read: Google Music is the interface to access music, whereas media server actually plays it.
Would I be correct in saying that? If that is the case, why would Google Music use 11% of my battery?

Media server handles any audio, including touch click sounds etc. Thats why its showing up.

RogerPodacter said:
Media server handles any audio, including touch click sounds etc. Thats why its showing up.
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Thank you so that would explain a relatively high battery consumption from Media server. But why would Google Music then also have a high battery consumption, if Media server is actually handling the audio?

alexluckett said:
Thank you so that would explain a relatively high battery consumption from Media server. But why would Google Music then also have a high battery consumption, if Media server is actually handling the audio?
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it handles the decoding of music

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Why is everyone so fascinated with Google Music?

Every thread I read about the Galaxy Nexus not having enough storage space has the same king of replies: "Just use Google Music", "You can stream from the cloud", "Google limited the space on purpose because they want you to use Google Music", etc..
Why go through the tedious process of uploading a limited selection of songs to Google Music and keep updating it when with apps like Gmote, you can have access terabytes of music directly from your PC!
All it takes is installing the app on your phone, the server on your PC and forwarding one port to your PC and you're done.
For movies I setup an FTP on my PC and forwarded that port through my router. With ES File Explorer you can access it and stream any movie from your hard drive directly to your phone (not recommended through 3G though! ). MXPlayer for mkv, h264, etc playback works perfectly with SW acceleration!
Edit: Corrected. It's 20,000 songs not 5GB
5GB? You can have up to 20,000 songs on Google Music.
And I recommend it because its seamless and awesome. And doesn't take up space on the phone lol.
martonikaj said:
5GB? You can have up to 20,000 songs on Google Music.
And I recommend it because its seamless and awesome. And doesn't take up space on the phone lol.
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Ah, thought it was 5GB. 20,000 songs is plenty but you still have to upload those to "the cloud" versus just leaving them on your PC. Plus it's not officially available to anyone outside the US yet.
gabster21 said:
Ah, thought it was 5GB. 20,000 songs is plenty but you still have to upload those to "the cloud" versus just leaving them on your PC. Plus it's not officially available to anyone outside the US yet.
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You just upload em once. In the background over time. And every time you get something new its uploaded automatically.
Not to mention that Google Music can be accessed from any web browser, where you can listen and manage everything
Most people don't know how to do what you describe..
but what happens if you have all this music in the cloud, and you have no reception/data to stream???
I still rather have space on the phone!
joshnichols189 said:
Most people don't know how to do what you describe..
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But I'm guessing most people in this forum do!
martonikaj said:
You just upload em once. In the background over time. And every time you get something new its uploaded automatically.
Not to mention that Google Music can be accessed from any web browser, where you can listen and manage everything
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Those are nice features, automatic updates definitely helps.
zok-star said:
but what happens if you have all this music in the cloud, and you have no reception/data to stream???
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It auto-caches your most-played music. You can also manually pin (cache) artists/albums/playlists if you know you'll be out of service
If you delete a song on Google Music, it doesn't delete it on your computer. Vice versa. Sucky management, eh?
Data caps will make me think twice when wanting to listen to music. Who wants to feel limited in that way?
What if I don't have reception?
This is how I use Google Music
1. I used the Google Music app on my computer to upload everything to the cloud. When I add new songs, they'll be uploaded automatically, or when I buy something on the phone, they will be downloaded to my computer.
2. I "pinned" all my music to my phone over wi-fi one night. It's easy to do in the app on the phone. You just select the albums or artists from the "Make Available Offline" screen and they'll download over wi-fi. There is also an option to do it over the cellular network which would be good for an album or two but might eat through your data if you're not unlimited. This means none of my music needs to stream to play on my phone. It's all cached locally. I take the subway to work every day and don't have reception all the way. This also syncs all your playlists in Google Music!
I now have my music on my computer, phone, and anywhere I want from the cloud, and I don't have to have a signal at all to listen.
If I ever get low on space on my phone because I've cached all my music, I can just untick the checkmark and it won't be locally stored anymore, but it's still in the cloud and on my computer. It's easy to pin or un-pin music from the phone.
I used to manage everything manually over USB on my Nexus One. I didn't understand how Google Music could help me, but it finally clicked on how I could use it to work for me easily.
inlogan said:
1. I used the Google Music app on my computer to upload everything to the cloud. When I add new songs, they'll be uploaded automatically, or when I buy something on the phone, they will be downloaded to my computer.
2. I "pinned" all my music to my phone over wi-fi one night. It's easy to do in the app on the phone. You just select the albums or artists from the "Make Available Offline" screen and they'll download over wi-fi. There is also an option to do it over the cellular network which would be good for an album or two but might eat through your data if you're not unlimited. This means none of my music needs to stream to play on my phone. It's all cached locally. I take the subway to work every day and don't have reception all the way. This also syncs all your playlists in Google Music!
I now have my music on my computer, phone, and anywhere I want from the cloud, and I don't have to have a signal at all to listen.
If I ever get low on space on my phone because I've cached all my music, I can just untick the checkmark and it won't be locally stored anymore, but it's still in the cloud and on my computer. It's easy to pin or un-pin music from the phone.
I used to manage everything manually over USB on my Nexus One. I didn't understand how Google Music could help me, but it finally clicked on how I could use it to work for me easily.
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Agreed in all aspects +1
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I have about 30GB of music in Google Music lol you're not limited at all. I think that's somewhere around 5,500 songs...so I have *plenty* of room to grow.
7100 songs/45Gb here, GMusic rules!
It's only available in the United States? Darn... time to get a VPN set up? Haha. This is the same problem I have with Google Voice.
All of these wonderful things to be using but are unable to due to location. Why must we be so behind in Australia?!
1: Because people want to access their music from more places than just at home.
2: Google music is easier to use and set up than setting up your own music server, vpn, etc
3. Not everyone has a music server or wants to set one up
"Why buy a car from Toyota if you can just buy the parts and built it yourself?!"
have to say GMusic rox! anywhere in the world, my music at the press of a button!
My Google Music account has about 12,500 songs in it, which is about 90GB worth. For a free service, that's amazing. Also, it let me download/pin music while I was vacationing in Italy, so it's not totally US only.
Out of the US
There is a trick to sign up for Google music if you are outside of the US. Just install an application called, HotShield and then sign up. This way, your IP is recognized as coming from the US.
Anyways, the idea of using Google music is to store your music on the cloud so you can play all your music from your phone, computer, friend's computer and so on without storing your music locally on your computer.
I have a problem when I tried to play one of the song from Google music. I can see the progress bar of the music playing but I don't hear the song. Does anyone have the solution?
Meh, I'll eat up anything Google releases. I love it all /fanboyism
inlogan said:
1. I used the Google Music app on my computer to upload everything to the cloud. When I add new songs, they'll be uploaded automatically, or when I buy something on the phone, they will be downloaded to my computer.
2. I "pinned" all my music to my phone over wi-fi one night. It's easy to do in the app on the phone. You just select the albums or artists from the "Make Available Offline" screen and they'll download over wi-fi. There is also an option to do it over the cellular network which would be good for an album or two but might eat through your data if you're not unlimited. This means none of my music needs to stream to play on my phone. It's all cached locally. I take the subway to work every day and don't have reception all the way. This also syncs all your playlists in Google Music!
I now have my music on my computer, phone, and anywhere I want from the cloud, and I don't have to have a signal at all to listen.
If I ever get low on space on my phone because I've cached all my music, I can just untick the checkmark and it won't be locally stored anymore, but it's still in the cloud and on my computer. It's easy to pin or un-pin music from the phone.
I used to manage everything manually over USB on my Nexus One. I didn't understand how Google Music could help me, but it finally clicked on how I could use it to work for me easily.
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lmao that whole thing about the cache/pinning is basically having the songs ON your phone .. which is the counterargument here XD yeah we can put our songs onto the phone too, but we need to use a usb cable but its 10x faster than wirelessly lol
not that im against GMusic lol, i just hate that it eats up my data like crazy and i cant listen to **** if theres not a clear signal lol. However I find the equalizer on the app pretty good, is in fair competition with PowerAmp believe it or not... some songs sound better on Gmusic; and yes i am pretty good with the EQ so thats not it.

Spotify on 4G/ICS?

I installed Spotify on my Nexus today and whenever I try to listen to a song I just get a "INFO" box that is blank. I checked the settings and it's configured to sync over 3G and Wifi, but not 4G. Could that be an issue?
This is the first time using spotify so im not sure if thats a new issue or if I misconfigured
turn 4g of on your phone and try again.
it should work fine, the app is ICS compatible
Denniz0229 said:
turn 4g of on your phone and try again.
it should work fine, the app is ICS compatible
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how do I turn off 4G, and why dont they make it work on 4G =D
I would uninstall and reinstall the spotify app. I play music over 4g all the time. The syncing options are for syncing your playlists offline so they don't effect how your stream music.
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+1 for reinstalling Spotify.
That did it for me
Is it possible to do this:
Tag a song I hear in the car with Shazam
Use the option to listen in spotify
download the song to my phone over spotify
set the download directory to my google music folder so it automatically syncs with my home pc?
When you download music in spotify, you don't actually get an mp3...spotify keeps it separate so that it's available to listen to offline through spotify, but isn't available to distribute (anti-piracy measures). It's also how they assure you keep paying for spotify (you can't keep an offline song for more than 30 days without "checking in" to spotify by going online.
that sucks! Any good apps to actually pull down the mp3?
Random Reboots?
Has anyone else experienced random reboots while listening to Spotify?
I have synced a large number of playlists for offline play (over 4G), but now almost half the time I am using Spotify my GNex does a reboot at some point while listening to Spotify music.
I haven't verified if this issue deals with local (non streamed) music in general, because I only have a handful of local MP3s stored on the phone (was planning on using Spotify for most of my music needs). To be clear, this is not a streaming issue - all of the tracks and playlists I am listening to have already been synced to the phone.
Any thoughts? Suggestions?
Am I the only one experiencing this . . . ?
DroidHam said:
Is it possible to do this:
Tag a song I hear in the car with Shazam
Use the option to listen in spotify
download the song to my phone over spotify
set the download directory to my google music folder so it automatically syncs with my home pc?
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This whole post is kind of nonsensical because you don't have access to the Spotify music as an mp3 and there's no such concept as setting a "download directory" in Spotify. As well, Google Music on your phone won't ever upload music to sync with the cloud. The only music that gets synced/uploaded to the cloud is through the Music Manager application on your desktop computer. The Google Music app is simply for accessing / playing the music / making them available offline.
javroch said:
This whole post is kind of nonsensical because you don't have access to the Spotify music as an mp3 and there's no such concept as setting a "download directory" in Spotify. As well, Google Music on your phone won't ever upload music to sync with the cloud. The only music that gets synced/uploaded to the cloud is through the Music Manager application on your desktop computer. The Google Music app is simply for accessing / playing the music / making them available offline.
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I didnt realize you cant save the mp3s,i guess if i could i could "save" them to my dropbox account which would sync them to my own desktop. I was hoping to be able to hear a song in the car, tag it with shazam, download and have it on my home computer. Ah well

[Q] Disable MediaServer?

So,
I noticed that mediaserver seems to be taking up a large portion of my battery but I don't even know what this is. I don't plan or have the need to share media over the network (which is what the name leads me to believe it is for). Is there some way to disable this without losing general media playback as well?
Quick search shows that it can possibly have something to do with using media (music, youtube). And possibly picasa
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media server
Chopes said:
So,
I noticed that mediaserver seems to be taking up a large portion of my battery but I don't even know what this is. I don't plan or have the need to share media over the network (which is what the name leads me to believe it is for). Is there some way to disable this without losing general media playback as well?
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server doesn't necessarily mean it's online data transfer!
notification, ringer and every thing relevant to media play (not just online but also offline - try the music player) is also what the media server does!
I don't think its possible to remove or disable it, but you can reduce the number of notification that includes some audio notification (for example you can silent facebook notifications - not disable! or you can disable conversation tone in viber or whatzapp (the wop tang and pops that played when you send a message))...
You could be playing music, which is what media server allows apps to do. Its anything related to media, looking at pictures and such. You can't nor should disable it.
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Easiest way to sync music to Nexus?

Just got bluetooth for my car and I'm ditching my zune. I'm looking for the easiest way to sync music over to my Nexus from my computer. Also hopefully whenever I download new music, the next time I connect my nexus to my computer, the new music syncs over as well. Any good programs or suggestions in doing this? thanks
I like Mediamonkey.
I guess there are a couple ways. Upload all of your music to google music and then stream it through your phone. You can also select the feature that pins the music to your device to play whenever you want. Or you can just connect your phone to a computer, open the music folder on the phone and drag and drop. Easy peasy
I don't know how much of an audiophile you are but the one drawback to google music is that it only supports certain files. And if you have files like m4a and flac, google music converts them to the "highest quality" mp3, which is i think 320 kbps. Just an FYI.
I'll second the vote for google music (assuming you're in a location where you're allowed to have that...). I believe the Music Manager desktop app will monitor a specified folder to automatically sync any new items that show up there... which means they'll also be almost-instantly available on your mobile device.
Google Music is the only thing I use for music these days; no regrets.
adamhlj said:
I guess there are a couple ways. Upload all of your music to google music and then stream it through your phone. You can also select the feature that pins the music to your device to play whenever you want. Or you can just connect your phone to a computer, open the music folder on the phone and drag and drop. Easy peasy
I don't know how much of an audiophile you are but the one drawback to google music is that it only supports certain files. And if you have files like m4a and flac, google music converts them to the "highest quality" mp3, which is i think 392 kbps. Just an FYI.
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Yeah, I do currently use google music every once in awhile and it works good. Just don't exactly like the idea of requiring data connection. Though it seems that may be my best method.
I see there are some apps that use itunes, double twist for example. But apparently that's no good because it doesn't work with the nexus's MTP. Is there any other programs like that that could work to sync music over?
tu3218 said:
Yeah, I do currently use google music every once in awhile and it works good. Just don't exactly like the idea of requiring data connection. Though it seems that may be my best method.
I see there are some apps that use itunes, double twist for example. But apparently that's no good because it doesn't work with the nexus's MTP. Is there any other programs like that that could work to sync music over?
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You can always "pin" selected tracks/albums/artists/genres for availability offline. No data connection needed.
Otherwise, I believe Winamp offers synchronization with the desktop Winamp via wifi.
codesplice said:
You can always "pin" selected tracks/albums/artists/genres for availability offline. No data connection needed.
Otherwise, I believe Winamp offers synchronization with the desktop Winamp via wifi.
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Is there any way to pin the recently added playlist or any playlist for that matter? More or less when I add new music, its typically what I'll be listening too for a week or so. So it'd be nice to have those "pinned" so at least for the music I'll be listening to most, it wont require a connection.
codesplice said:
You can always "pin" selected tracks/albums/artists/genres for availability offline. No data connection needed.
Otherwise, I believe Winamp offers synchronization with the desktop Winamp via wifi.
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I, too, was gonna say winamp. It was pretty easy to set up and sync over wifi. I've heard good things about doubleTwist if you're a iTunes guy (which coming from zune doesn't sound like you are.) doubleTwist allows wifi and usb syncing, album artwork, subcribe to podcasts, and stream everything to your media device over wifi (xbox, ps3, etc)
tu3218 said:
Is there any way to pin the recently added playlist or any playlist for that matter? More or less when I add new music, its typically what I'll be listening too for a week or so. So it'd be nice to have those "pinned" so at least for the music I'll be listening to most, it wont require a connection.
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You can't pin any of the auto-generated playlists (like the "Last added" playlist), but any manually-created playlists can be pinned.
nbdysreal said:
I, too, was gonna say winamp. It was pretty easy to set up and sync over wifi. I've heard good things about doubleTwist if you're a iTunes guy (which coming from zune doesn't sound like you are.) doubleTwist allows wifi and usb syncing, album artwork, subcribe to podcasts, and stream everything to your media device over wifi (xbox, ps3, etc)
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yeah, not an apple fan at all lol. But if it allows me to sync music to my phone then I will manage to deal with it. Do I actually need itunes if I use doubletwist? It seems that doubletwist can handle everything. What is itunes required for?
thanks for all the suggestions btw
I am using the combo Rdio + Google Music. I use Google Music for everything that I own and that is not at Rdio (mainly Beatles), and Rdio for everything else. Working quite well since Rdio has a lot of interesting features to discover music and I am addicted to discover old bands.
I like Google Music.
If you're more iTunes based and want that type of solution, DoubleTwist is good.
I wasn't even aware of Google Music until I looked at this thread. Oddly, All of my music on the Google site is on my phone but not the other way around. I am not even sure how it got to either place. I had a Nokia phone before and did not have Google on it. I was going to guess that somewhere along the way my PC sync'd the music, but if that is so, why do I have more on my phone than on the website?
The doubletwist desktop application sucks! It is way too slow and limited in functionality. IE: When you add a music folder to be scanned for media you can't uncheck what you want to sync it is all or nothing which is terrible. The android app is actually my favorite music app. I like it's podcast interface and it also does playback of videos. It is really polished, fast, fluid, makes use of lockscreen widget and double press mic button for switching songs and light on the battery. It has a few in app purchases that allows you to unlock other features such as the EQ which is also good. So what I do is use google music to pin music then i use the app "music importer" which moves pinned songs to a common directory so any 3rd party music player can see them. When you get tired of a song just delete it in the app and pin and move newer songs over. There is a free 50 song trial in the play store. I went all in and bought all the DT unlocks as well as music importer. This has the best solution for me.
doubleTwist / Google Music?
Google music is all you need.
patruns said:
I wasn't even aware of Google Music until I looked at this thread. Oddly, All of my music on the Google site is on my phone but not the other way around. I am not even sure how it got to either place. I had a Nokia phone before and did not have Google on it. I was going to guess that somewhere along the way my PC sync'd the music, but if that is so, why do I have more on my phone than on the website?
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i believe google wont sync music you put on your phone either manually, or through amamzon mp3/some sorta a free music download program
BrianDigital said:
i believe google wont sync music you put on your phone either manually, or through amamzon mp3/some sorta a free music download program
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Correct, Google Music only syncs to the cloud from your computer (two way) and then from the cloud to your phone (one-way).
Music Manager (desktop application) <--> music.google.com --> Google Play Music (Android app)
I use iSyncr and works great and its very fast, i like how itunes keep all my stuff organized.. So i only plug the phone to the computer and thats it.. iSyncr does the rest by itself
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I use iSyncr and works great and its very fast, i like how itunes keep all my stuff organized.. So i only plug the phone to the computer and thats it.. iSyncr does the rest by itself
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will check that out.

Two-way music sync

I've spent the last few days trying to figure out a good way to sync music to my phone. From googling, the best solution was apparently PlayerPro, however I have tried running the trial on my phone, and it won't play back more than 1 song before freezing up. I'm not going to drop the $5 for it, if I can't get it to work.
I'm non-rooted, running the stock firmware (latest version).
Requirements:
- Must support "auto" playlists (for syncing, its fine if they aren't an option in the music app on the phone)
- Must sync song ratings back to Windows 7
- Must not require the use of iTunes
Nice to have:
- Ability to specify how much of my storage I want to dedicate to my music, so it doesn't max out my memory card.
Seems simple enough, but so far I haven't found a way to do this that doesn't use PlayerPro.
Any suggestions?
Explanation: I want to sync over to my phone songs I've rated highly + new/unrated songs. Then when I sync back, the ratings get passed back to the music management application in Windows to keep all my ratings in sync. I do not want to sync my whole library (which is bigger than my memory card).
What I've tried:
- PlayerPro should do what I want. But it freezes on me.
- DoubleTwist will only sync over my entire library. No smart lists for syncing
- WinAmp will "auto fill" but won't let me specify any paramaters for what gets synced over. Plus Winamp android app won't let me rate songs.
- MediaMonkey will work on the PC, but relies on PlayerPro for rating the songs on the phone.
This is a giant question not a guide.... So it belongs in Q and A.
Wow that's pretty specific. I'm unsure of anything available that does that. Google Music was my initial thought. Moving all your music there...? You can sync your whole collection although I don't know if you can selectively sync songs.
Edit : just checked you can make certain things available offline. Unfortunately nothing but a thumbs up or down for a rating system.
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Sorry about posting this is the wrong sub-forum. I'll flag it and see if a moderator can move.
Its not a syncing app, but if you live in an area with good coverage maybe you can try using Audiogalaxy.
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may i suggest to you DROPBOX. you can stream the music on your phone and and play it on your pc.

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