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I have been asking this on Sprint forums for a while, I searched here and didn't really see this issue. It's a pretty concerning issue for me and I'm wondering if it's common because I know it would bother everyone.
My first post was basically saying I wasn't receiving push notifications, after doing some testing I posted this.
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As a follow up:
I have noticed that the data doesn't come through the the 4g is idle.(Zzz)
I tested it with two applications:
Whatsapp, have a friend send me a message with 4g active, message came through. I had the same friend send me one with 4g in idle mode and the message does not come through at all, even if I browse the internet and make 4g idle again, the message will only come through after I open whatsapp again.
Beejive and eBuddy messanging apps: I opened my own account and tested from my PC with the same scenarios as before, I get the same results.
It seems my phone is losing a data connection all together when 4g goes into idle, now this can't be right can it?
Looks like the NS has the same issue:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/70874
This can't be right can it? I mean completely shut off my phones data connection when the 4g radio is sleeping? How does this make sense..
Anyone?
jmejiaa said:
I have been asking this on Sprint forums for a while, I searched here and didn't really see this issue. It's a pretty concerning issue for me and I'm wondering if it's common because I know it would bother everyone.
My first post was basically saying I wasn't receiving push notifications, after doing some testing I posted this.
Copy/Paste from Sprint forums:
As a follow up:
I have noticed that the data doesn't come through the the 4g is idle.(Zzz)
I tested it with two applications:
Whatsapp, have a friend send me a message with 4g active, message came through. I had the same friend send me one with 4g in idle mode and the message does not come through at all, even if I browse the internet and make 4g idle again, the message will only come through after I open whatsapp again.
Beejive and eBuddy messanging apps: I opened my own account and tested from my PC with the same scenarios as before, I get the same results.
It seems my phone is losing a data connection all together when 4g goes into idle, now this can't be right can it?
Looks like the NS has the same issue:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/70874
This can't be right can it? I mean completely shut off my phones data connection when the 4g radio is sleeping? How does this make sense..
Anyone?
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Kinda ... I believe it still works in the background for any app that might need internet connectivity. The time out sucks cause is so short but it is done, I believe, for the purpose of saving battery, like if no app is in need of data then it shuts down. Also, there are codes to make this time-out take longer to kick in, somewhere buried in these threads.
Thanks for the reply. Yea I saw some options, but raising the time out would probably kill my battery.
For now keeping on 3g seems to be my best bet..
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Usually when a radio goes to sleep there is something called a rx interrupt that will wake it up when there is a packet received. This is based on my limited experience working with radios as an electrical engineering student. I don't know. how the specific wimax radio in this phone works.
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Not sure how it works, but in honesty its very frustrating, the fact that it isn't a bigger deal on here makes me think it doesn't happen to all?
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I hate to bump this again, but are the views people that don't have this issue at all?
I feel like this is a deal breaker
I get this all the time. When driving, I like to listen to shoutcast stations.
If I lose signal for more than like 10 seconds, the 4G idles and never reconnects unless I either toggle 4g off/on or tap a shoutcast station to wake the 4g back on. The 3G struggles to reconnect to the station usually and times out.
It is pretty irritating. My best friend always teases me for getting an android phone over his iPhone 4S PO$ on AT&T. lol
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I get this all the time. When driving, I like to listen to shoutcast stations.
If I lose signal for more than like 10 seconds, the 4G idles and never reconnects unless I either toggle 4g off/on or tap a shoutcast station to wake the 4g back on. The 3G struggles to reconnect to the station usually and times out.
It is pretty irritating. My best friend always teases me for getting an android phone over his iPhone 4S PO$ on AT&T. lol
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I'm keeping it on 3g right now, that should give you the same speeds of his 4s. I'll turn on 4g when I know I need it. So far 3g hasn't been slow enough for me to even have to turn it on.
I like this phone a lot and considered returning it but there isn't a phone as powerful so I decided to deal with it for now.
I went to sprint but the tech wasn't there, the counter guy tried to tell me it's the same with any 4g phone but I really don't think so. I think people would get rly pissy if messages didn't come in for hours.
I'm going to see the tech and test it with another 4g phone, if it doesn't happen I'll ask him to open a ticket and MAYBE that'll get something done.
there are a few tweaks that you can do in the epst menu that help out with the 4g connection going dormant. let me see if i can find the thread
I looked into setting the "sleep" time to 300 seconds, haven't done it yet but I'd be worried about it sucking my battery too fast.
I just feel it should work in sleep mode and I want to see what other sprint 4g phones do, if it's only with this phone I want to at least try to get it up to Sprint as a bug(event though most likely nothing will happen.
Someone on El13 said they didn't get this behavior in another thread.. I've tested it on stock EG30 and Ek20
Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought I noticed this on both my OG Epic and the Touch. Mostly for me it manifests in not getting push notifications while on 4G in idle. That's been my main complaint with it. So I mostly don't use it, although I'm rarely anywhere with 4G anyway, so it's irrelevant.
TurboFool said:
Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought I noticed this on both my OG Epic and the Touch. Mostly for me it manifests in not getting push notifications while on 4G in idle. That's been my main complaint with it. So I mostly don't use it, although I'm rarely anywhere with 4G anyway, so it's irrelevant.
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Yep this is issue.. I'm leaving 4g off now and I'm not really bothered by that so it's not that big of a deal.. I was about to return the phone though because i was missing important messages through push notification.
jmejiaa said:
Yep this is issue.. I'm leaving 4g off now and I'm not really bothered by that so it's not that big of a deal.. I was about to return the phone though because i was missing important messages through push notification.
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Can you give me a few examples of push notifications? I want to test this on my Epic Touch. Are G-Talk messages push? Stock email? You have me curious about this now....
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JohnCorleone said:
Can you give me a few examples of push notifications? I want to test this on my Epic Touch. Are G-Talk messages push? Stock email? You have me curious about this now....
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I have not tried gtalk but I think it would have the same issue.
I have tried and all of them fail with the same issue:
Whatsapp
Gmail app (I don't use Samsungs stock email)
Beejive messenger
ebuddy messenger
let me know what you find.. I just can't believe this isn't a big bug - something tells me it might be Samsung's radios.
I went ahead and changed my idle time to 300... The phone doesn't go to zzz anymore so far so that should let me stay on 4g. That should give me 5 hours of the phone not going to sleep so during a normal day I shouldn't have this issue.. Maybe when I'm sleeping I won't see my notifications I will leave it on for now..
My DL speeds with 4g are like 7-8k so that's MUCh better than 3g for me. Also we'll see about battery drain.
Yes I have this problem. I also have the same issue with leaving WIFI on all the time. Everything is delayed unless you just used the phone.
frigidazzi said:
Yes I have this problem. I also have the same issue with leaving WIFI on all the time. Everything is delayed unless you just used the phone.
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I don't think I have it on wifi. Will test tonight.
John,
Another example of 'push' is using imap with gmail account. I use both k9 and maildroid using the imap connection method. When a message arrives at the google server it should 'push' it to our phones in a short turn around time frame. I've seen this vary from immediate to 45 minutes on the server end. The usage of 'pop' of course is the 'pull' method when polling is necessary.
Bill
jmejiaa said:
I went ahead and changed my idle time to 300... The phone doesn't go to zzz anymore so far so that should let me stay on 4g. That should give me 5 hours of the phone not going to sleep so during a normal day I shouldn't have this issue.. Maybe when I'm sleeping I won't see my notifications I will leave it on for now..
My DL speeds with 4g are like 7-8k so that's MUCh better than 3g for me. Also we'll see about battery drain.
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300 in IdleSleep is actually 5 minutes, not 5 hours (I'm pretty sure the value is in seconds).
That being said, I haven't seen any push notification issues on 4G on EG30 or EL13. I regularly get Gtalk and Gmail notifications all the time while idle on 4G. The only thing that seems slow on push notification is the built in email client. But I'm not sure if that is a client or Hotmail issue. I wonder if your issue is region specific.
From what I read it is minutes.. But that could all be wrong I guess
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not sure where to begin, i suppose by listing my phone specs after root--
using the galaxy s2, (epic 4g touch) using kernal 2.6.35-8lostkernelexp+, build number starburst 11.13.11 v1.9.8r and running nothing but the honey theme.
i rooted the phone about a week ago and until today, everything seemed to work fine, then suddenly, i was unable to send pictures via text. not a real big issue, but i travel alot and sending pics back home by messages i a big deal for me. i thought it was just somethin with the phone, and after rebooting and rebooting to see if it would correct, it did not. however, normal text's would go through, just not any pics. i could send and receive normal words with no issues.
then just today, i totally lost internet connection--although the 3g is lit up on top, and i have 4 full bars of signal, i cannot surf, all i get is "unable to display webpage". since im at home, i turned on the wifi option and connected through the router in my house, and all worked fine-- i got online, send pic texts, etc...but when i turned wifi off, nothing.
now, back when i rooted the phone, i still kept getting the annoying "system update" messages that the phone normally does, forcing me to install whatever update the phone grabs. to prevent that, i did the steps on this site which was here--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778&highlight=freeze+ota
and disabled my update notifications. well, back to the beginning--now i have no internet at all and god only knows what else is wrong that i have yet to discover.
only thing i can think of at this point, is to unroot the phone , return it to the way it was and see how it goes but i dont want to do that--
any ideas?
yes im a noob said:
not sure where to begin, i suppose by listing my phone specs after root--
using the galaxy s2, (epic 4g touch) using kernal 2.6.35-8lostkernelexp+, build number starburst 11.13.11 v1.9.8r and running nothing but the honey theme.
until today, everything seemed to work fine, then suddenly, i was unable to send pictures via text. not a real big issue, but i travel alot and sending pics back home by messages i a big deal for me. however, normal text's would go through, just not any pics. i could send and receive normal words with no issues.
then, totally lost internet connection--although the 3g is lit up on top, and i have 4 full bars of signal, i cannot surf, all i get is "unable to display webpage". since im at home, i turned on the wifi option and connected through the router in my house, and all worked fine-- i got online, send pic texts, etc...but when i turned wifi off, nothing.
now, back when i rooted the phone, i still kept getting the annoying "system update" messages that the phone normally does, forcing me to install whatever update the phone grabs. to prevent that, i did the steps on this site which was here--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778&highlight=freeze+ota
and disabled my update notifications. well, back to the beginning--now i have no internet at all and god only knows what else is wrong that i have yet to discover.
only thing i can think of at this point, is to unroot the phone , return it to the way it was and see how it goes but i dont want to do that--
any ideas?
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Why not nandroid a backup of your current setup and then do a full factory reset wipe and ODIN over a stock rom and see if that fixes it...if it does then there is no reason to bring a perfectly good phone back.
Diagnostic process bro, get on it.
However if that doesn't yield any results? Might be bad hardware (which I doubt) and probably not your fault.
EDIT: You haven't changed your PRL by chance, have you? Sometimes on 11115 or 00001 I get intermittent MMS function...and a few times, legit PRL or not, my wifi/4g have just stopped working. A wipe and stock-restore took care of that every time...though that was a week or two after the phone came out and we didn't have nearly as many tools and options as we do now.
Also, are you sure that you haven't somehow disabled 3G or put it into airplane mode? As insulting as that sounds I have to ask....
...sometimes even the brightest of us forget to plug things in.
Odin restore would be the first step.
I would try ##72786# in the dialer then entering your msl. After that just just hut yes then let your phone do its thing and reboot and reactivate. Just remember to cancel it during the firmware check.
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Beejis said:
I would try ##72786# in the dialer then entering your msl. After that just just hut yes then let your phone do its thing and reboot and reactivate. Just remember to cancel it during the firmware check.
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Good call...or even just trying to refresh your profile under 'updates' would be the easiest place to start...
The mms issues are likely a limitation of the ROM you are running (I haven't run Starburst in a couple of months so you'll have to ask about that in the ROM thread.) Easily resolved by using a third party app for mms if it is an important feature for you.
As far as the rest, the code provided by beejis is the reprovisioning code, also called a hands free reset and there is a bit more to the process than he stated (at least for a noob.) Hit the toolkit link in my signature and you'll find step by step instructions.
If that doesn't work, starting fresh is an incredibly simple process.
Also, posting the exact same question in two different forums is breaking a Cardinal rule, so you probably want to refrain from that, it won't win you many friends.
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Beejis said:
I would try ##72786# in the dialer then entering your msl. After that just just hut yes then let your phone do its thing and reboot and reactivate. Just remember to cancel it during the firmware check.
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yes i tried that, after the phone reboots, it says uptop "device not activated" and nothiing....i have to manually go into settings/about phone/system update and do it from there and even then, after a few secs, i get an error message saying unable to complete...
daneurysm said:
Good call...or even just trying to refresh your profile under 'updates' would be the easiest place to start...
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yes, tried that to.....get nothing but "error cannot complete" messages. all i can do now is make calls
If you have titanium backup, go into that app then click backup/restore at the top. Find system updates and click on it to see if it's frozen, if it is defrost it. Then try my steps again. Other than that I'd try to Odin a stock ROM.
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daneurysm said:
Good call...or even just trying to refresh your profile under 'updates' would be the easiest place to start...
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ok thanks, i went back to odin stock rom, did it from qbking77's post and the phone is back on stock...however............still no internet/data!!
i did do the ##number thing, the phone rebooted but notihng happened--i thought it was supposed to auto activate or something. so i went into settings/about phone/update profile....it scanned and after a few mins, i still get the error message "update could not be completed, if problem persists contact sprint customer support"
so im back on factory rom, but nothings changed---im where i was before--no data/internet....
before installing a different rom and such, i figure ill stop here and see what other suggestions may come about....sooooo, what next?
Take your phone in to a sprint store, an exchange may be in your future.
Just_s said:
Also, posting the exact same question in two different forums is breaking a Cardinal rule, so you probably want to refrain from that, it won't win you many friends.
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yes indeed, sorry about that. when i made the post here, i originally couldnt find it and thought it was auto deleted somehow because i had checked "is this a question" button at the bottom, so i went into the q/a section and made the post there...
didnt mean to do it twice
phatmanxxl said:
Take your phone in to a sprint store, an exchange may be in your future.
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gee i hope not... i got the phone dec 14th, cant imagine having probs this early....
what if i did a total wipe, factory reset? i know ill loose everything on the phone, and now that its not rooted any longer, i have no way to back up anything (or at least not that i know of)
just hoping theres a better fix than a return/ factory reset
Now that you are stock, call sprint tell them your issue (only tell then internet doesn't work) and they'll do stuff on their end to trouble shoot it. Hopefully that will fix it.
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I would try this. This will reset you back to exactly the way you got the phone. If you are still having problems then you will have to take it back to Sprint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vmEmheJnyg
cds0699 said:
I would try this. This will reset you back to exactly the way you got the phone. If you are still having problems then you will have to take it back to Sprint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vmEmheJnyg
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thanks. thats exactly what i did before you made this reply hehe...
as before, still no data/internet
yes im a noob said:
thanks. thats exactly what i did before you made this reply hehe...
as before, still no data/internet
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That sucks, I'd recommend taking the phone to Sprint/where you bought it, and get it replaced/fixed. Good news is you're now back on stock so they won't really look into rooting as a problem. I always put phones back to stock before I take it in for a claim.
cds0699 said:
That sucks, I'd recommend taking the phone to Sprint/where you bought it, and get it replaced/fixed. Good news is you're now back on stock so they won't really look into rooting as a problem. I always put phones back to stock before I take it in for a claim.
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yea, dunno...
i did call sprint per Beejis reply here just above yours. after going through a ton of crap that i did yesterday and all today, the ## number crap, they tell me there's a nationwide outage. now i find that hard to believe since both my other phones in the house, wife/kid work just fine and they have data/internet and other ppl i know have no problems....i told the tech person that it just must be my phone only cuz everyone else's seems to work.
she did give me an outage number, maybe someone on here can verify it -- 8622911 so who the heck knows. what i do know is, i sure spent a heck of alota time on here, resetting my phone, unrooting, blahh blahh just to find out there's an outage which i doubt in the first place ...
we'll see,,,,,
If you are now stock/rooted, sounds like you need to use sfhubs auto root script to go back to stock recovery (overwrite your custom recovery) unroot, and take it back to Sprint.
DataHawg said:
If you are now stock/rooted, sounds like you need to use sfhubs auto root script to go back to stock recovery (overwrite your custom recovery) unroot, and take it back to Sprint.
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its just stock odin at this point, as if it came from the store.
also, still no data/internet as of this morning. dont know why sprint
is telling me this bs story of an outage, and even if so, i find it way hard to beleive its a 4 day outage
but yes, looks like im headed back to the store-- i got it at best buy, have insurance and all that, but ill wait till tomorrow or something just in case this phantom outage corrects itself
by the way, where do i find this sfhubs root your talking about?
oh one other thing i discovered today also, now gps dont work either, no location, no search no nothing and it is turned on......... sigh
This is going to be a long one so bare with me...
So I was using my phone tonight surfing web sites that I frequent, checking facebook, watching YouTube videos, streaming audio and the like. While watching a flash video stream from a link that was posted to a friends FB page I get a text. Didn't check the text immediately as I would normally do deciding to finish the video stream instead. When the stream was done hitting the back button did nothing as if my phone froze up so I pushed the home button to get back and then check to see who was texting me. Low and behold it's a text from T-Mobile stating "to prevent future Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Tethering) access bla bla bla" crap. The thing is I was NOT tethering when I received this text. I very rarely tether if at all.
For what ever reason I decided to look at my data usage to see how much data I've used so far this month ~5.6GB. I thought to myself seems slightly above average for me at this point in my billing cycle, so I started to scroll down to see what was using my data. To my surprise I see apps in the list that I know for a fact are NOT on my device. So I started to take screen shots as proof (screen shots below).
While in the process of all this activity, from the time of ending my video stream to taking screen shots, my phone is being very sluggish, something its hasn't done since I got the phone??? Anyways as I'm trying to take the last screen shots my phone flickered and put me back to the top of the data usage page, again something my phone has never done.
So I start back down the list again to finish taking screen shots and notice the apps that I know are NOT on my phone are now NOT in the list of app that used data, everything thing else that's normally there was still there??? (screen shots below).
I have since turned off my mobile data until there's a way to keep "them" out of my phone (I don't know if this is the avenue "they" took to enter into my phone but it makes me feel better).
Maybe I'm being paranoid, I know I'm a little freaked out by this, look at the screen shots and determine that for yourself.
The first 9 pics are from before the flickering, the last 6 pics are after the flickering.
My question goes out to our developers here, is there anyway that this invasion/intrusion into our privacy and our device be stopped? If at all?
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Which aops sre you saying aren't in your phone
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Honestly, I'm suspecting malware or something otherwise gone wrong way more than T-Mobile personally being in your phone or something.
Looks like Carrier IQ. Nothing new. The numbers you see listed are likely the ports it is communicating over.
If you ever see it happen again, tap on one of the 'unknown' apps and see what it tells you.
Remove the following apks from /system/app and I bet you will never see that again.
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
/system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so
I suggest you take a look at TrevE's CarrierIQ Thread and his Logging Test App
Anyway, I wouldn't worry so much about it to no longer use my data service. They have been doing this all along and at this point most likely have long since got most of the info they wanted from your device. Chances are, their systems detected heavier than usual usage and automatically triggered the system to send its current reports and logs back to Tmobile. Doubt there was an actual person on the other side 'hacking' into your phone!
This type of stuff has been going on for quite a while now. The first step you need to take is removing CarrierIQ from your phone! This should ALWAYS be one of the very FIRST things you do when you flash or update your system! Next is to check out TrevE's offerings and knowledge I linked to above.
And remember, even without CarrierIQ, everything you do over your data connection gets sent straight through Tmobile's systems first. Whether or not they are actually capturing anything, I dont know. But they do have the ability if they so choose, or are requested to by law enforcement.....
Not trying to make you overly paranoid, but just the right amount can be a healthy thing!
Hope that helps clear things up a little for you.
The second data report is 11/20-11/27.... the first is 11/14-11/27.........
Did you download the Avengers movie?
DocHoliday77 said:
Looks like Carrier IQ. Nothing new. The numbers you see listed are likely the ports it is communicating over.
If you ever see it happen again, tap on one of the 'unknown' apps and see what it tells you.
Remove the following apks from /system/app and I bet you will never see that again.
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
/system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so
I suggest you take a look at TrevE's CarrierIQ Thread and his Logging Test App
Anyway, I wouldn't worry so much about it to no longer use my data service. They have been doing this all along and at this point most likely have long since got most of the info they wanted from your device. Chances are, their systems detected heavier than usual usage and automatically triggered the system to send its current reports and logs back to Tmobile. Doubt there was an actual person on the other side 'hacking' into your phone!
This type of stuff has been going on for quite a while now. The first step you need to take is removing CarrierIQ from your phone! This should ALWAYS be one of the very FIRST things you do when you flash or update your system! Next is to check out TrevE's offerings and knowledge I linked to above.
And remember, even without CarrierIQ, everything you do over your data connection gets sent straight through Tmobile's systems first. Whether or not they are actually capturing anything, I dont know. But they do have the ability if they so choose, or are requested to by law enforcement.....
Not trying to make you overly paranoid, but just the right amount can be a healthy thing!
Hope that helps clear things up a little for you.
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Thanks doc for your response. Those files you've mentioned were removed immediately after flashing this rom on its release day JLA.
This is why I got freaked out I know for a fact they are not there.
I will check out trev's threads when I got home.
Thanks again...
Interesting...just for sh!ts and giggles, I wonder what a rep on the higher tiers would say if you called them up
Pennycake said:
Honestly, I'm suspecting malware or something otherwise gone wrong way more than T-Mobile personally being in your phone or something.
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That would be my guess. Get a virus scanner like lookout and check the apps
Edit- I forgot about CIQ, ignore my previous post
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Just flash a rom that is carrier iq free. problem solved
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
That would be my guess. Get a virus scanner like lookout and check the apps
Edit- I forgot about CIQ, ignore my previous post
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Crisisx1 said:
Just flash a rom that is carrier iq free. problem solved
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Maybe I wasn't clear, so let me try again.
ALL CIQ CRAP WAS REMOVED IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLASHING ROM ON 11/18/2012!!!!
Clear enough???
Yeah I think it was clear enough, at least I understood that the first time you said it.
I wish I knew how to get PDroid to work on a decent T999 JB ROM...
Run a system dump and send me your system. I can find your issue
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widto08 said:
This is going to be a long one so bare with me...
So I was using my phone tonight surfing web sites that I frequent, checking facebook, watching YouTube videos, streaming audio and the like. While watching a flash video stream from a link that was posted to a friends FB page I get a text. Didn't check the text immediately as I would normally do deciding to finish the video stream instead. When the stream was done hitting the back button did nothing as if my phone froze up so I pushed the home button to get back and then check to see who was texting me. Low and behold it's a text from T-Mobile stating "to prevent future Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Tethering) access bla bla bla" crap. The thing is I was NOT tethering when I received this text. I very rarely tether if at all.
For what ever reason I decided to look at my data usage to see how much data I've used so far this month ~5.6GB. I thought to myself seems slightly above average for me at this point in my billing cycle, so I started to scroll down to see what was using my data. To my surprise I see apps in the list that I know for a fact are NOT on my device. So I started to take screen shots as proof (screen shots below).
While in the process of all this activity, from the time of ending my video stream to taking screen shots, my phone is being very sluggish, something its hasn't done since I got the phone??? Anyways as I'm trying to take the last screen shots my phone flickered and put me back to the top of the data usage page, again something my phone has never done.
So I start back down the list again to finish taking screen shots and notice the apps that I know are NOT on my phone are now NOT in the list of app that used data, everything thing else that's normally there was still there??? (screen shots below).
I have since turned off my mobile data until there's a way to keep "them" out of my phone (I don't know if this is the avenue "they" took to enter into my phone but it makes me feel better).
Maybe I'm being paranoid, I know I'm a little freaked out by this, look at the screen shots and determine that for yourself.
The first 9 pics are from before the flickering, the last 6 pics are after the flickering.
My question goes out to our developers here, is there anyway that this invasion/intrusion into our privacy and our device be stopped? If at all?
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i noticed you are using lucky patcher which is used to patch apps so they are free.... in a sense stealing... im not judging you but if you download 3rd part apk's like lucky patcher and the "unpatched" apks you might have got a rogue app that steals your info and uses your data in background...just a thought
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ptmr3 said:
Run a system dump and send me your system. I can find your issue
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Never did a system dump, steps please...
kornklown69 said:
i noticed you are using lucky patcher which is used to patch apps so they are free.... in a sense stealing... im not judging you but if you download 3rd part apk's like lucky patcher and the "unpatched" apks you might have got a rogue app that steals your info and uses your data in background...just a thought
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I had a feeling this would come up. I use LP as a means to block the ads in some games like WWF and WF that adfree or adaway don't. If I knew more about linux I wouldn't need an app to do that for me.
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This is going to be a long one so bare with me...
So I was using my phone tonight surfing web sites that I frequent, checking facebook, watching YouTube videos, streaming audio and the like. While watching a flash video stream from a link that was posted to a friends FB page I get a text. Didn't check the text immediately as I would normally do deciding to finish the video stream instead. When the stream was done hitting the back button did nothing as if my phone froze up so I pushed the home button to get back and then check to see who was texting me. Low and behold it's a text from T-Mobile stating "to prevent future Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Tethering) access bla bla bla" crap. The thing is I was NOT tethering when I received this text. I very rarely tether if at all.
For what ever reason I decided to look at my data usage to see how much data I've used so far this month ~5.6GB. I thought to myself seems slightly above average for me at this point in my billing cycle, so I started to scroll down to see what was using my data. To my surprise I see apps in the list that I know for a fact are NOT on my device. So I started to take screen shots as proof (screen shots below).
While in the process of all this activity, from the time of ending my video stream to taking screen shots, my phone is being very sluggish, something its hasn't done since I got the phone??? Anyways as I'm trying to take the last screen shots my phone flickered and put me back to the top of the data usage page, again something my phone has never done.
So I start back down the list again to finish taking screen shots and notice the apps that I know are NOT on my phone are now NOT in the list of app that used data, everything thing else that's normally there was still there??? (screen shots below).
I have since turned off my mobile data until there's a way to keep "them" out of my phone (I don't know if this is the avenue "they" took to enter into my phone but it makes me feel better).
Maybe I'm being paranoid, I know I'm a little freaked out by this, look at the screen shots and determine that for yourself.
The first 9 pics are from before the flickering, the last 6 pics are after the flickering.
My question goes out to our developers here, is there anyway that this invasion/intrusion into our privacy and our device be stopped? If at all?
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I hope the camera did not catch you with your shorts around your ankles. The reverse camera Tmo hid in the code will haunt you.
I'm sorry, wasn't going to reply, but had to show my appreciation for the above reply. Epic my friend.
On another note, have you seen the extreme throttling that goes on after you exhaust your data allotment? (I'm on Monthly 4G, Unl/5GB) Screeny below... the last 2 test or before I hit 5GB, the lowest test in the middle is when throttling began and the top results are after I called and b!tched them out.
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carrier IQ.....
also, getting caught for tethering can happen as long as there is a record of your data usage on their end, and all somebody needs to do is take a peek at it.
also, don't use wireless tether apps.
***If your having similar issues, please call sprint to make them aware of the issue.****
Anyways, can any one help me. I updated to jelly bean OTA, and since then my LGOG does not like to send text messages out. My phone will not send messages shorter than 10-20 characters. Im in the CHICAGO area. No problem receiving them, just more often then not i get a failed sent. I have tried resetting the phone hard/soft. I took my phone into sprint and they said I need a new phone. Wtf! Anyone have this issue, or have any ideas to resolve this?
Im pretty disapointed right now, the phone was flawless before the update! Never had a single problem before. Thanks in advance.
UPDATE.. In conclusion,if anyone is interested, I believe the new jellybean update just doesn't play well with my towers in my area of Chicago. With the jelly bean update my voice signal was excellent, but the data signal was degraded. I always noticed, with ics while 4glte was connected, the voice signal was less. With jelly bean it seemed to be just the opposite at all times, great voice so so data connection. Only if i could have both and jellybean wtf?? Maybe someone could help me on here and explain a radio/jelly combo i would have best of both worlds.
Seems to be a Chicago issue.
**Either way I aquired LGNPST and original TOT file and reflashed the phone with original software and have not accepted the jellybean update for now.**
If you would like me to host the files needed PM me, I'll send you links.
I suposed I could have tried to reflash ZV9/ICS or ZV9 radios, but I bricked the phone before trying that.
I must have got the best phone out there. I've never had a problem with any software version we've had.
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cremator75 said:
I must have got the best phone out there. I've never had a problem with any software version we've had.
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Rub it in why dont ya.... Well mine was the best android phone that i have owned. I never had a single issue before this.
I guess since i havent got any responses no one else has this issue. Is there anyway to reflash jellybean on my phone again?
Have you tried a ##72786# in the dialer? It will reprogram the phone. It won't erase anything.
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I've been having the same problem
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_Epic said:
Have you tried a ##72786# in the dialer? It will reprogram the phone. It won't erase anything.
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I have not tried the ## but ill give it a shot. Sprint may have done that.
More on this issue, it seems just not to send short messages. Like lol, no, yes anything shorter than a sentence. I have noticed tht long texts send fine, and picture text seem lightning fast. Whch is great, but cant respond to someone with a simple yes or no. Wtf
I have also noticed a bigger delay between automatic switching between 3g and 4g. Before the update the switching was seamless.
I have also rooted and reflased the ota, same issue. I did not flash the radios seperate tho.
The ## did not fix my text issue. Sprint store did do this as well.
Still have this same issue anyone figure anything out? Anyone have anymore suggestions i can try? Sprint does something on their end, and restore the phone with ## and it works for an hour, then back to the same issue.
Peteyo, are you in Chicago? Maybe it's it's a network issue. I'm having the same problem and so is my buddy. I can't believe more people aren't coming forward with this if it's a national thing.
But let me know if you find a fix, and I'll do the same. And you're right, it only happens on short messages!
Im in Chicago and having the same issues, even with other messenger apps that use stock mms, I also use whats app and have no issues. They seem to be random some send and some don't. If there is a fix please post it is a pain .
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I have chalked it up to LG sucking! or I supose it could be sprint. The JB update they pushed changes the way the phone communicates with the towers. I grabbed bits and pieces from other threads with data problems and came to that conclusion. It doesn't appear to make issues with everyone, or have the same problems.
What i did, and what maybe the easiest is to reflash the phone back to its original form out of the box. Also im not accepting the ZVB/jelly bean update that messed up our phones. To return to original state, u must aquire LGSNPT, and Sprint`s original tot file. You can find these two in the developer sections. Its really easy and painless and get you right back where u need to be. The toughest part is putting your phone into download mode. vol+ vol- and power buttons.
Make sure u back up your pictures/things you may want to keep.
Option 2 you can **** around and try to find an ICS file, root your phone, and flash it back to ics. Or better yet root and flash ZV9 radios.
However im not sure if these will work. I have not been able to find ZV9 radios.
Option 3 if you have insurance get a new reman phone, or if no insurance pay sprint 50bucks for a reman phone. But you will still have the same issue if you update to ZVB/jellybean.
I wish I new more about this stuff and make a custom radio that has the voice improvements from ZVB/Jellybean, and the data from ICS/ZV9. Probably not even possible.
vetta 360 said:
Im in Chicago and having the same issues, even with other messenger apps that use stock mms, I also use whats app and have no issues. They seem to be random some send and some don't. If there is a fix please post it is a pain .
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I'm in the Chicago area and noticed the same thing...
The strange part of all of this is that my text messages will always send if they are greater than about 10 to 20 characters. Anything smaller than that amount will give me a send failure. Has anyone else had that experience?
Data and Cell Reception have been stellar for myself since the update -- I believe I was having the texting issues before OTA (though I wasn't rooted at that point)
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That was my exact issue! I had to send complete sentences. WTF
BBetz said:
I'm in the Chicago area and noticed the same thing...
The strange part of all of this is that my text messages will always send if they are greater than about 10 to 20 characters. Anything smaller than that amount will give me a send failure. Has anyone else had that experience?
Data and Cell Reception have been stellar for myself since the update -- I believe I was having the texting issues before OTA (though I wasn't rooted at that point)
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That was my exact issue! I had to send complete sentences. WTF
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Don't you feel a greater level of sophistication when you have to type an entire sentence?
I'm sure it's Sprint trying to cut down on their SMS costs, but I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
Funny! I guess I should have just added a bunch of quick messages that are complete sentences for a yes or no answers. And the lesser 4g reception does slow down my midget porn downloading. Maybe it really is a win win...
BBetz said:
Don't you feel a greater level of sophistication when you have to type an entire sentence?
I'm sure it's Sprint trying to cut down on their SMS costs, but I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
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Yeah I have the same problem on my Lg Optimus. In Chicago Area on sprint too. My one friend has verizon and has a cheeper lg smart phone and has the same problem. I think it is something with LG. I should have bought the Galaxy.
peteyo said:
***If your having similar issues, please call sprint to make them aware of the issue.****
Anyways, can any one help me. I updated to jelly bean OTA, and since then my LGOG does not like to send text messages out. My phone will not send messages shorter than 10-20 characters. Im in the CHICAGO area. No problem receiving them, just more often then not i get a failed sent. I have tried resetting the phone hard/soft. I took my phone into sprint and they said I need a new phone. Wtf! Anyone have this issue, or have any ideas to resolve this?
Im pretty disapointed right now, the phone was flawless before the update! Never had a single problem before. Thanks in advance.
UPDATE.. In conclusion,if anyone is interested, I believe the new jellybean update just doesn't play well with my towers in my area of Chicago. With the jelly bean update my voice signal was excellent, but the data signal was degraded. I always noticed, with ics while 4glte was connected, the voice signal was less. With jelly bean it seemed to be just the opposite at all times, great voice so so data connection. Only if i could have both and jellybean wtf?? Maybe someone could help me on here and explain a radio/jelly combo i would have best of both worlds.
Seems to be a Chicago issue.
**Either way I aquired LGNPST and original TOT file and reflashed the phone with original software and have not accepted the jellybean update for now.**
If you would like me to host the files needed PM me, I'll send you links.
I suposed I could have tried to reflash ZV9/ICS or ZV9 radios, but I bricked the phone before trying that.
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Searching this one word text problem for a friend. Has this been resolved yet and can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks
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jondroid2 said:
Searching this one word text problem for a friend. Has this been resolved yet and can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks
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It has not been fixed yet, and I'm starting to believe it may never unless people start complaining more. I strongly encourage people to call sprint support often regarding this, if you would like to see it fixed. I have opened a couple cases with Sprint business support (corporate account here). If more people raise a stink, they have to do something!
Will do. Thanks for the quick reply:thumbup:
Btw.... You guys have one beast of a phone! Congrats:beer::thumbup:
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Wow, this is frustrating. After half a year of thinking that Sprints network sucks and suffering through terrible connections I finally fixed my issue. After an ice storm this week I was getting nothing but a slow 3g connection. Tonight I was digging through ##data# settings and switched the network from "hybrid mode" to "cdma/evdo/lte mode" and the thing connects giving me 1.1 mb/s for download speeds. I thought I was going to have to force LTE only to be able to connect but I have not dropped back to 3g since switching over to this. I wish I would have done this months ago but toggling airplane mode worked to give me my 4g back so I didn't really worry about it.
If I remember from the epic touch days when you mess around with that it doesn't allow you to send MMS or make calls I think. Might be different now.
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daniel4653 said:
If I remember from the epic touch days when you mess around with that it doesn't allow you to send MMS or make calls I think. Might be different now.
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I didn't test mms yet but I made a call right after doing it and it worked. I will put it through some tests. I use google voice anyway so mms goes to email. This website, Whereismycellphone was able to call me.
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I didn't test mms yet but I made a call right after doing it and it worked. I will put it through some tests. I use google voice anyway so mms goes to email. This website, Whereismycellphone was able to call me.
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Okay cool. Also try seeing if texting works too. I would be surprised if it doesn't break anything.
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interesting, i'll keep an eye on this thread and see if doing this is worth it
daniel4653 said:
If I remember from the epic touch days when you mess around with that it doesn't allow you to send MMS or make calls I think. Might be different now.
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Why do you attach this link?
I have signatures disabled for this reason.
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Why do you attach this link?
I have signatures disabled for this reason.
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Because that's the only way to have it show on mobile? It'd fine if you disable them. I'm not getting rid of mine.
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Why do you attach this link?
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lol, i also have signatures disabled and i wondered the same thing in a previous thread he commented in. i was like "oh okay, a screenshot or image of something relevant to the thread."
nope.
cnstarz said:
lol, i also have signatures disabled and i wondered the same thing in a previous thread he commented in. i was like "oh okay, a screenshot or image of something relevant to the thread."
nope.
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If you don't want to see it then scroll past it, nobody cares about your whining, it's going to stay whether you like it or not... all y'alls whining makes me want to put 5 images in my Sig just to piss you off! Now move along and have a good day girls
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flastnoles11 said:
If you don't want to see it then scroll past it, nobody cares about your whining, it's going to stay whether you like it or not... all y'alls whining makes me want to put 5 images in my Sig just to piss you off! Now move along and have a good day girls
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chill out, no one's whining, and no one wants to hear you whining either.
I wish my issue was that simple. I have all the towers in my area NWed to 4G LTE, but the one next to my house. They skipped that one. Its like a gap, they won't be fixing anytime soon. My LTE speeds are ok, next to one side of my house.. but thats about it.
flastnoles11 said:
If you don't want to see it then scroll past it, nobody cares about your whining, it's going to stay whether you like it or not... all y'alls whining makes me want to put 5 images in my Sig just to piss you off! Now move along and have a good day girls
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Lol, Calling people girls while you rant and rave like someone just said something bad about your boyfriend is hilarious.
Back on topic, OP have you had any issues with SMS/MMS since you did this tweak in the ##data# settings?
Same here with sprint's reception in my area and probably 70% of where I usually go out to. My friends have at&t and Verizon and they just blow away speed tests compared to sprint. I'm thinking of giving this a shot when I have some free time
Just had time to try this out and my setting is already at cdma/evdo/lte mode. Curious..
Out2kill said:
Just had time to try this out and my setting is already at cdma/evdo/lte mode. Curious..
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That's odd it should have been on hybrid automatically and by default. It was the same way on the epic touch.
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Out2kill said:
Just had time to try this out and my setting is already at cdma/evdo/lte mode. Curious..
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Mine to
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Lol I just checked and mine is also on the same already. This is odd.
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Krazy_Calvin said:
I didn't test mms yet but I made a call right after doing it and it worked. I will put it through some tests. I use google voice anyway so mms goes to email. This website, Whereismycellphone was able to call me.
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This has me intrigued. Sometimes I have issues with MMS, and it would be great if I could get all MMS messages that are sent to my phone (stupid group messaging...) to also go to an email box as well.
hayzooos said:
This has me intrigued. Sometimes I have issues with MMS, and it would be great if I could get all MMS messages that are sent to my phone (stupid group messaging...) to also go to an email box as well.
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This is off topic but if you have an exchange account there is an option to sync sms
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Sorry it took me a couple days to reply. I wanted to make sure to put it through all the paces. I have had nobody tell me they weren't able to reach me. This has actually been an improvement for me because while I was at home and would receive a phone call I would only hear the ring for about 5 seconds before it sent them to the voicemail. Phone calls are ringing right in now. One thing that happens is I get "darth vader" sounding either on my end or their end after a ten minute conversation or so. Although that happened before I changed this setting when I was stuck on 3g. Network pangs I guess. I am more than happy to call somebody back to have a steady 4g connection. All SMS/MMS questions do not apply to me because of how I use my phone. With google voice those are both going through data instead of messaging in its traditional sense. I LOVE google voice and the extensions to messaging that it provides me like being able to use it on wifi when I have 0 connectivity. I prefer typing out messages through the browser if I am at home because my stupid fingers have problems with hitting the wrong button on touch screen keyboards. Sorry for sounding like an advertisement for GV, lol. Nobody has my real sprint number... I use the GV number so I have extremely easy portability between providers when I decide to move. No mass messages to people with my new number that they might glance over.
Anyway, Hopefully other people have success with what I tried here.
Another thing I am wondering because of people saying they had different settings input. I should have mentioned in the OP that I am currently on TPR 3.12. Are the people who have a different option on a different rom?