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Why did we only get super amoled and not the super amoled + like the gs2 the + screen used way less battery
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ostrich69 said:
Why did we only get super amoled and not the super amoled + like the gs2 the + screen used way less battery
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It would've used more battery if we had the + screen actually. See right now we have less sub pixels, its not a full rgb set of pixels but if it was....with this resolution you'd be lucky to get probably 1 hr of screen on time. They went with just regular samoled to save battery. Only reason gs2 has better battery is because its pushing only 800x480 pixels while our nexus is doing 1280x720.
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Serious_Beans said:
It would've used more battery if we had the + screen actually. See right now we have less sub pixels, its not a full rgb set of pixels but if it was....with this resolution you'd be lucky to get probably 1 hr of screen on time. They went with just regular samoled to save battery. Only reason gs2 has better battery is because its pushing only 800x480 pixels while our nexus is doing 1280x720.
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Well I'm down to drop pixels to get battery cause come on really its a phone screen any way to drop pixels????
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ostrich69 said:
Why did we only get super amoled and not the super amoled + like the gs2 the + screen used way less battery
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It's simple - a HD Super AMOLED+ screen did not exist for mass production at the time the Galaxy Nexus was designed and released. They wanted to go with a HD screen on the phone, so they had to go Super AMOLED. The Galaxy S2 does not have a HD screen. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the first HD Super AMOLED+ screen on the Galaxy S3.

bsweetness said:
It's simple - a HD Super AMOLED+ screen did not exist for mass production at the time the Galaxy Nexus was designed and released. They wanted to go with a HD screen on the phone, so they had to go Super AMOLED. The Galaxy S2 does not have a HD screen. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the first HD Super AMOLED+ screen on the Galaxy S3.
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They have HD SAMOLED+, Gtab 7.7, even bigger display, definitely could've made SAMOLED+ for our phones, but definitely could not fit a battery big enough to power it in our phones lol.

Serious_Beans said:
They have HD SAMOLED+, Gtab 7.7, even bigger display, definitely could've made SAMOLED+ for our phones, but definitely could not fit a battery big enough to power it in our phones lol.
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And it was released months after the Galaxy Nexus. At the time they designed and went to manufacture the Galaxy Nexus, HD Super AMOLED+ screens were not ready. This might have something to the contoured display of the Nexus. But for whatever specific reason, the HD Super AMOLED+ screens were not ready for the Galaxy Nexus.
The PenTile screens are easier on the battery though, so perhaps that's one reason why they weren't rushing to get the HD Super AMOLED+ screens ready in time for the Galaxy Nexus.

ostrich69 said:
Why did we only get super amoled and not the super amoled + like the gs2 the + screen used way less battery
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Because samsungs manufacturing process is not yet able to produce amoled screens with full RGB at such a high pixel density. So we get pentile for now. Full RGB amoled+ is coming in due time.
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Serious_Beans said:
They have HD SAMOLED+, Gtab 7.7, even bigger display, definitely could've made SAMOLED+ for our phones, but definitely could not fit a battery big enough to power it in our phones lol.
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Like i said above, its about pixel density. The 7.7 tab has full pixels because at 7 inches the pixel density is very low. They cannot yet reliably manufacturer high pixel density with RGB pixels for a cost effective price. Its coming soon...

RogerPodacter said:
Because samsungs manufacturing process is not yet able to produce amoled screens with full RGB at such a high pixel density. So we get pentile for now. Full RGB amoled+ is coming in due time.
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Like i said above, its about pixel density. The 7.7 tab has full pixels because at 7 inches the pixel density is very low. They cannot yet reliably manufacturer high pixel density with RGB pixels for a cost effective price. Its coming soon...
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Thanks for clearing up what I wasn't able to fully convey. Pixel density makes perfect sense.

I'd take 720P pentile over full RGB WVGA any day.

ill rather have my 720P screen over my GS2 800X480 (or whatever it is) screen res any day.. Rather its + Or Samoled or Super amoled or w/e .. its still has one of the best screens on the market.. Whoever states different needs their eyes checked out

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Samsung Galaxy Nexus

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/goo...october-with-super-amoled-hd-screen-50004784/
Nexus Prime will be a Samsung and is looking like an October release. Seems early since specs and pictures are still unknown, but with the Iphone 5 being released in Oct maybe Christmas will be early this year
Wow, can't wait. Coming in October? I doubt that as Nexus phones always come out just before Christmas. But the earlier the better
It's a shame it has to come with Pentile matrix though It will ruin the 'Retina' display (as 720p within 4.5" screen is 326ppi) as it won't truly be 'retina.'
htc gps > samsung gps
chinstrap said:
htc gps > samsung gps
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Samsung Super AMOLED HD > HTC S-LCD
Don't really read C-net that much so I don't know how credible they are. Either way I hope it's true and comes out in early October.
Looks like im going to be waiting for the nexus prime successor. I will never buy a Samsung device.
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4.5 **** that is way to big i hope thats not true
Im tired of HTC and their touchscreen problems, my friend has a mytouch 4G and has the same ecactly touchscreen problems the Nexus One has, HTC is losing to Samsung big time, and Google goes to Samsung because they make mostly their own parts and makes really good phones. Cry about the plasticy feels of phones all you want, all phones will break after a drop from a decent height, I cant wait for this phone to come out!
must...wait...till...october...ugggh
Put back the SD card slot and led notification!
Notorious544d said:
It's a shame it has to come with Pentile matrix though It will ruin the 'Retina' display (as 720p within 4.5" screen is 326ppi) as it won't truly be 'retina.'
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I suppose, but it should be pointed out that the PenTile fringing pattern is much less distinguishable at a higher resolution. The Atrix at 275 ppi uses PenTile, but you really have to inspect it a lot more closely than a N1 or NS to see.
b1337 said:
4.5 **** that is way to big i hope thats not true
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I agree but only sort-of. The 4.5" size of a Hercules or Infuse, I think that would be too big for me. But if the murmurs of a button-free Ice Cream Sandwich OS are true, then the screen can take up more of the phone's body. So we could get an Infuse-size screen with 720p resolution, but a phone no bigger than the SGSII. Maybe even smaller.
phewizzo said:
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Cry about the plasticy feels of phones all you want, all phones will break after a drop from a decent height, I cant wait for this phone to come out!
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For some of us, it's not about metal being more durable than plastic, it's about the look/feel of metal vs. plastic. I don't like the look and feel of plastic, and I would even pay a hefty premium for the exact same phone if it was in metal (vs plastic).
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Actually now that I'm thinking it through more, the Nexus Prime screen couldn't possibly be the same dimensions as the Infuse, because of the aspect ratio difference. So imagine the SGS2 (4.3" 800x480, 1.667, 3.687x2.212") with the buttons gone, and the screen elongated an extra 0.235" into that space (4.5" 1280x720, 1.778, 3.922x2.206"). So not as massive as feared.
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Its probably gonna be around the same size as the charge
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I just hope it has a LED notification light.... and a flash light on the back...
as for samsung's build quality, they have been doing some awesome stuff lately(Phones, Laptops, TVs) and with Cyanogen on their team, it's gonna be interesting!
As seen from the up in coming Samsung devices, Nexus Prime screen size is gonna be 4.65 inches.
http://m.bgr.com/2011/08/18/samsungs-next-android-windows-phone-and-bada-devices-leaked/
b1337 said:
4.5 **** that is way to big i hope thats not true
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Seriously. I love the size and structure of my N1. I've messed around with larger screen devices like the Evo, and they feel both unwieldy and less solid.
Really, I'd be thrilled to have something exactly like the N1, just with upgraded CPU/SoC (maybe dual core), more RAM and onboard flash, and perhaps a true multitouch screen. Ok, and maybe a re-worked power button. But really, that's all I want.
I don't need 3D, a huge screen I can't fit easily in pockets, gimmicky curved glass, or 7G radios that only last 90 minutes. I just want the N1, updated.
There's so much they got right with the N1 IMHO, it's hard for me to find something that I'd be willing to replace it with yet.
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cmstlist said:
Actually now that I'm thinking it through more, the Nexus Prime screen couldn't possibly be the same dimensions as the Infuse, because of the aspect ratio difference. So imagine the SGS2 (4.3" 800x480, 1.667, 3.687x2.212") with the buttons gone, and the screen elongated an extra 0.235" into that space (4.5" 1280x720, 1.778, 3.922x2.206"). So not as massive as feared.
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It will probably be around the same size as the HTC Sensation. Although it has a 4.3" screen, because it is 16:9 it feels much smaller than the SGS2.
bcpk said:
It will probably be around the same size as the HTC Sensation. Although it has a 4.3" screen, because it is 16:9 it feels much smaller than the SGS2.
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Right, but since the rumoured Nexus Prime is (I stand corrected now) 4.65" and also 16:9, it'll have to be 8% wider than the Sensation - but not necessarily taller due to removal of the buttons. Although some of that width could also come from slimming down the bezel even further, if at all possible.

Pixel Density on NG 4.65" OLED Pentile screen size

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1319022037
that is a very technical yet interesting read.
This has been discussed to the death in the Galaxy S days.
Galaxy S and Nexus S has the same tech in it.
I think they looked fine.
If you have to calculate the pixel density like this, what does the Nexus S has with it's 4" 800x480 display? 150ppi?
Looks interesting will have to see one for real now hopefully soon
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kanariya said:
This has been discussed to the death in the Galaxy S days.
Galaxy S and Nexus S has the same tech in it.
I think they looked fine.
If you have to calculate the pixel density like this, what does the Nexus S has with it's 4" 800x480 display? 150ppi?
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The PentTile AMOLED displays look great with pictures, video, etc, especially with the excellent black levels. However, for text it's not so good. I have a Galaxy S and the PenTile display looks really bad at times. Text looks tinted, and red text on black or just red on dark backgrounds in general? It looks like it's hovering above the display, horrible...
Sure, the GN has a smaller screen than the Galaxy Note and therefore a higher DPI, but I'm not so sure it's enough to hide the weaknesses of a PenTile display.
Hopefully someone will get their hands on one for a proper test of the display.
Hey look! Another AMOLED display and another site found out about PenTile RGBG vs. RGB or "Real Stripe"!
Hardly something new, that's been around since the first Nexus One and they don't break with tradition. Nexus One, Nexus S and now the Galaxy Nexus, all have a PenTile matrix.
Yes, PenTile RGBG matrix offers less sub pixels and still PPI and resolution are based on "pixels". That might not be ideal and there will always be PenTile haters counting sub pixels one by one. But unless Samsung can produce 300+ PPI AMOLED displays with their "real stripe" method it's either PenTile or LCD.
Some good information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
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Some good information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
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Hmm, so it still fares better than the galaxy s2.
Check this out guys. Note can be same as Galaxy Nexus.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus-to-have-PenTile-panel_id23165
this poor dead horse keep getting a beating here...
This is so overblown. It isn't exactly something new. Pentile Matrix has been around for a couple years. Most of the people don't notice **** about it.
Phones with pentile matrix tech:
Nexus One
Nexus S
Galaxy S family
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Nexus
Samsung Focus
Samsung Omnia 7
HTC Desire
HTC Droid Incredible
HTC Legend
Dell Venue Pro
Nokia N8
Nokia N85
Nokia N86 8MP
Samsung Transform
Motorola Droid RAZR (It doesn't mention the "plus" so it should be pentile)
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kanariya said:
This is so overblown. It isn't exactly something new. Pentile Matrix has been around for a couple years. Most of the people don't notice **** about it.
Phones with pentile matrix tech:
Nexus One
Nexus S
Galaxy S family
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Nexus
Samsung Focus
Samsung Omnia 7
HTC Desire
HTC Droid Incredible
HTC Legend
Dell Venue Pro
Nokia N8
Nokia N85
Nokia N86 8MP
Samsung Transform
Motorola Droid RAZR (It doesn't mention the "plus" so it should be pentile)
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the nokia phones do not have the pentile matrix displays, nokia orders samsung oled screens with true RGB subpixel layout. however nokia struck that deal, likely paying more per screen (?), is a mystery because even samsung themselves who make the screens use pentile thru the years...while nokia got the true RGB OLED screens.
this includes nokia n8, n85, do not have pentile.
RogerPodacter said:
the nokia phones do not have the pentile matrix displays, nokia orders samsung oled screens with true RGB subpixel layout. however nokia struck that deal, likely paying more per screen (?), is a mystery because even samsung themselves who make the screens use pentile thru the years...while nokia got the true RGB OLED screens.
this includes nokia n8, n85, do not have pentile.
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Thanks I didn't know that.
I thought all AMOLED use pentile except SAMOLED+.
I just searched the wiki for phones with AMOLED screen.
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But unless Samsung can produce 300+ PPI AMOLED displays with their "real stripe" method it's either PenTile or LCD.
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Then give us a ****ing LCD. I'm tired of this bull **** Pentile matrix crap on my N1.
You'd rather have an LCD than a SAMOLED?
Forgive me, but lawwwwwwwl.
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You'd rather have an LCD than a SAMOLED?
Forgive me, but lawwwwwwwl.
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+1. I like the screen on my nexus one more than my slcd sensation. But again its IMHO.
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That second article is a more realistic view of how pentile performs in real life.
Most importantly, take a look at everyone's initial impressions of the screen, and check out the clear amazement in almost all of those articles, it seems that these new nay-sayers are very much based on prior conceptions, rather than real world performance.
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+1. I like the screen on my nexus one more than my slcd sensation. But again its IMHO.
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The clarity difference is astounding. I like my Bolt and all, but put the thing next to any Samsung and it's night and day.
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The icons and text look okay in the running video. Not sure what the distance is.
More interesting were the benchmarks in the video. What were they, and how do they compare with the same benchmarks on some of the flagship devices from the last three months?
Also there seems to be a little bit of rendering/painting delay at 3:55-4:00 when the user tries to pinch an enlarged section of a web page, though that might be expected behavior. Was surprised to see that since the reported Sunspider and V8 benchmarks for the Galaxy Nexus handily beat the SGS2.
Pentile is a load of bull...
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When you using fullscreen apps it is.

True HD IPS is much sharper than HD Super AMOLED

I know the True HD IPS screen is better than the AMOLED but I didn't think it was that much sharper than the HD Super AMOLED on a borrowed Galaxy Nexus. It's almost like putting on glasses, very crisp detail. I'm guessing when there is a non pentile HD AMOLED the differences may be a lot smaller but against the pentile HD AMOLED the difference is huge. The only thing holding the Optimus LTE back against truly surpassing the Galaxy Nexus in just about every way is the lack of an official ICS rom but then there is always CM9 for those of us who know how to get it on the phone.
Could take some pictures for comparison if anyone is interested
Yup. 3 subpixel elements rendering out light using RGB + a decently wide gamut backlight, rather than educated guesswork (well, subpixel rendering) using only a combination of two subpixels per pixel (and still off color). Also, no uneven black screens. Minor nitpick, but has always annoyed me on all amoled displays (it really shows up a night).
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Also keep in mind that the G nexus has a slightly larger screen, therefore lower PPI.
There's no question about it. I also compared the Nexus vs. Nitro side by side, and the text on Nexus' screen is more like my old 3GS, but on Nitro it's much sharper. Oh, did I mention the over-saturated color?
What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
HTC did the right thing using the SUPERLCD in the one X imo
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What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
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Yeah that is disappointing. Those who say pentile isn't noticeable never used a high density IPS display; I could see what looks like a dithering pattern everywhere coming from the optimus true hd lte. I also don't like how AMOLED has these blotches everywhere when viewing the screen on low brightness.
I refuse to get anything less than our True HD IPS. Coming from an iPhone 4 to the Nitro, me eyes have been looking at retina quality screens for too long to go back to anything less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-Z3_f3WCE
That's the difference I'm talking about
Another thing to point out (and maybe it's just me) the last phone I had was an infuse 4g and I noticed a burn in with the status bar, my brother's phone is the same which is a galaxy s. Both of them are amoled. Which I could notice while playing games on them.
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True I've already seen a few AMOLED displays with burn-in visible. I think LCD technology is also prone to some image persistence problems but not nearly as prone as AMOLED
Wow the youtube video really gets the point across. And I was already considering buying a Galaxy S3. I think we may be spoiled by our phones because there is a possibility LG may not continue to do the IPS displays. Also, the processor is a factor as well. I'm still on the fence between a 4X and GS3.
I've yet to experience the burn issues with OLED but I've never peaked out the brigtness settings for a prolonged period either which it strongly states can cause screen burn.. There is a divided group I've come to notice were some don't really get all that excited by the vibrant colors and outright detest the lack of viewabilty in open sunlight. I don't make any qualms against those and their reasons are valid. There are a lot of us however who are passionate about them for their stunning colors that captivate a photographers eye. I suppose it's an each their own issue but for anyone who is new with AMOLED, any prolonged brightness at the maxed settings on a fixed screen inevitably causes burn. I've personally never had any issues.
Biggest downside for me on p930 is the touch sensitivity. It's definitely noticeable compared to the skyrocket. It's especially pronounced on the screen edges. Otherwise, the form factor is better (thinner, textured back), the screen has a great feature where the glass curves over the edges of the bezel. Could be the reason the edges are less sensitive? I also prefer the three capacitive buttons vs. four. And as mentioned display quality is great: ppi, benefits of it's lcd vs amoled, etc. Show someone the videos included with the stock gingerbread wrong. It amazing.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
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This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
gmkelly001 said:
This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
In Canada you basically have to go 3 year contract or the subsidy isn't worth it and you might as well buy the phone outright
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
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I think it's more likely that they can't make a profit if they included Super Amoled Hd + displays.
Thank you for your new reel
I returned my Galaxy nexus and bought a LG Nitro HD. The screen on the Nexus had way too many flaws to pass for a high end phone. The yellow tint, and the ghosting were unacceptable to me.

Samsung & PenTile Displays

So I see lots of threads/posts about PenTile. Found this to be interesting, sharing it. It's mainly in regards to Samsung Galaxy S3 but as we know, Galaxy Nexus uses PenTile as well. So it would apply for our phones as well.
Samsung's Philip Berne explained to me that the blue subpixels on AMOLED displays actually degrade the fastest - quicker than the red or green subpixels. With a PenTile layout, the subpixels are arranged RGBG (red, green, blue, green), so they feature more green subpixels and fewer red or blue subpixels than an RGB stripe layout with the same resolution. Because of this, AMOLED displays that have the PenTile layout tend to have a longer lifespan than those with RGB layouts. Since Samsung is selling its phones to users that usually keep them for 18 months or longer, it has to be sure that the display will still offer peak performance at that time. According to the company, PenTile AMOLED displays have proven to be more reliable than those with RGB layouts.
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Source: http://www.mobileburn.com/19548/new...ed-displays-last-longer-thats-why-we-use-them
Thanks. Saw a few links to this. I don't really see what the issue is with PenTile. In normal use, its next to impossibile to see.
I think what people have bigger issues with are banding/discoloring/streaking, not necessarily the PenTile arrangement. Its just a nice 1-word "catch all" for not liking a display.
Motorola gave PenTile a bad name using rbgw arrangements. Now everyone assumes they will get screendoor effects.
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Motorola gave PenTile a bad name using rbgw arrangements. Noe everyone assumes they will get screendoor effects.
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The RAZR coming out ~same time as the Nexus with that god-awful display definitely gave a negative connotation to "PenTile".
Pentile was somewhat noticeable on the first SAMOLED display that they had in the SGS lineup, but only when it was text on a solid background. With SAMOLED HD, the pixel density is so high that I have yet to be able to see a jagged edge on text anywhere. I wonder what people would think if Apple used a Pentile matrix on an iProduct. Probably be the best thing in display technology rather than the most hated if it happened.
I love my galaxy nexus and my friend got a htc one x and it does look really good but I prefer my nexus maybe cause I like dark colors
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Yeah I agree with Motorola giving PenTile a bad name. When I first saw the Galaxy Nexus screen, I didn't even notice any differences. I don't know the technical terms on why it's different but compared to my previous phones, Nexus S / Galaxy S1 (Vibrant).. I don't really see any difference, in fact the GN looks even better but that might just be Super AMOLED HD. But whatever it is, it looks amazing.
The people criticizing about PenTile without even looking at the phone or trying it for a week or two need to re-evaluate themselves.
Ya, but Samsung still has not found a good enough manufacturing process to make regular "Super AMOLED+ HD" Screens at 4.6inch+ (hence the pen tile). That's why the screen's pen tile.
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imnuts said:
I wonder what people would think if Apple used a Pentile matrix on an iProduct. Probably be the best thing in display technology rather than the most hated if it happened.
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Hopefully apple wont make a mistake like that.
nohcho said:
Hopefully apple wont make a mistake like that.
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I doubt apple would I still remember that first iphone and the screen was amazing phone kind of suck tho
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Y'know, I always thought that PenTile would bother me too much to ever use a phone. I'd seen some devices that used older or low-end versions of it, and they looked terrible.
I was apprehensive at best of getting the Galaxy Nexus. PenTile and the lack of an SD card slot bothered me, to say the least. Over time, I've grown to love the phone. Much of that is because while there are some issues with the PenTile display, such as some banding and purplish greys at very low or lowest brightness settings, these issues aren't noticed even at a slightly raised brightness settings. Otherwise, the display is one of the best performing displays I've ever had the pleasure of using. The colors are bright and vibrant, the blacks are black, there are no light bleeds common with backlit displays and the outdoor performance, while not the best, is still excellent.
Super AMOLED HD isn't perfect, but it's certainly a good step forward in the evolution of display technology.
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Hopefully apple wont make a mistake like that.
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Didn't you know? Apple never makes mistakes
When I was looking at new phones, Pentile bugged the hell out of me every time I saw it. I swore I'd never buy a phone that used it. After Google started selling the Galaxy Nexus, I took a look at the VZW model just for kicks, and I honestly couldn't tell the difference unless I held it point-blank.
jgalan14 said:
I love my galaxy nexus and my friend got a htc one x and it does look really good but I prefer my nexus maybe cause I like dark colors
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Owning both devices, I actually prefer the one X screen over the nexus. Not by
a drastic margin though. Pentile displays are pretty atrocious on smaller resolution
screens (qhD or below).
It's a non-issue on the nexus.
I can tell occasionally but the high Res far outweighs the small nuance of seeing it in certain situations and being HD it still looks great. :thumbup::thumbup: for HD rgbg pen tile.
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I thought the issues of the blue sub-pixels degrading faster than the red and green ones had been, basically, sorted - at least in as much that the degradation, whilst still faster than the other sub-pixels, was now slow enough that it was not particularly perceptible over the lifespan of the device (at least for the likes of phones, which are replaced much quicker than most consumer electronics devices).
I mean, according to Wikipedia the typical time for blue sub-pixels to degrade to half their original brightness is 14,000 hours - or 8 hours a day for 5 years.
Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't have my handset's screen on for anywhere near 8 hours a day nor do I expect to still be using it in 5 years time.
And on top of that, it talks about 'experimental' blue OLED panels which can sustain 400 cd/m2 for over 62,000 hours - and that was in 2007.
Smokeey said:
Ya, but Samsung still has not found a good enough manufacturing process to make regular "Super AMOLED+ HD" Screens at 4.6inch+ (hence the pen tile). That's why the screen's pen tile.
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Wrong. Galaxy tab 7.7 . If Samsung put samoled HD plus in sgs3 the price for the phone would be too damn high and the difference between screens quality is not that big as people who haven't even used it or used sgs1 with small resolution are trying to tell.
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beeboss said:
Wrong. Galaxy tab 7.7 . If Samsung put samoled HD plus in sgs3 the price for the phone would be too damn high and the difference between screens quality is not that big as people who haven't even used it or used sgs1 with small resolution are trying to tell.
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The Galaxy Tab 7.7 is using a SAMOLED+ screen that is ~7". It is not a SAMOLED HD screen despite having an HD resolution. At least they do not advertise it as SAMOLED HD, it is listed as an HD resolution SAMOLED+ display.
When the g nex first came out all I say was the horrible screen. So I bought the t mo gs2 which had the ugliest screen resolution ever so I got a nexus. The screen on the phone is awesome dark blacks deep colors this is a great screen. The super LCD 2 is nice but I prefer this
beeboss said:
Wrong. Galaxy tab 7.7 . If Samsung put samoled HD plus in sgs3 the price for the phone would be too damn high and the difference between screens quality is not that big as people who haven't even used it or used sgs1 with small resolution are trying to tell.
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Bingo. I think Samsung is just trying to get the most value out of their current process-level.
The panel in my (oft mentioned) ET4G SGS2 is roughly the same exact dimensions as the GNex screen....though if you multiply 800x640x12 (subpixels) you come up with the same exact number you would if you multiplied 1280x720x5 .....and that 5 is where the damning "Pentile" moniker comes from.
So, that means these two (oft compared) panels have the same amount of subpixels arranged in the same amount of space in a slightly (or vastly, depending on how you looked at it) configuration.
So, for solid colors--aside from calibration differences and luminance (brightness) differences--the panels are effectively identical. I know I simplified a lot of the dynamics away with those qualifications, but, in this scenario we have the same amount of subpixels in the same exact density making the same exact color...
Before I decided to swap up to the GNex I marched down to the Sprint store and did the nerdiest side-by-side comparison I could and there wasn't a single moment where I had any question which screen I'd rather be looking at all the time....It's the GNex. The only thing I noticed was that it wasn't as cornea scarringly bright....big deal....after 30 seconds of screen-on maxed out the SGS2 screen turns itself down to prevent damage or something.....and then it's dimmer than the GNex anyway.
nohcho said:
Hopefully apple wont make a mistake like that.
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Apple is anal. They do alot more testing than Samsung because people will actually use + buy there phones well past its 18 month life span.

Amoled vs lcd

I love my amoled display, but which do you prefer, and why? For Amoled I mean [Amoled, Super Amoled, Super Amoled Plus, Super Amoled HD, (Super Amoled HD Plus?)] And for LCD I mean every other LCD you can name, there are too many for me.
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Jakeuten said:
I love my amoled display, but which do you prefer, and why? For Amoled I mean [Amoled, Super Amoled, Super Amoled Plus, Super Amoled HD, (Super Amoled HD Plus?)] And for LCD I mean every other LCD you can name, there are too many for me.
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After spending time on the beautiful display of the Galaxy S3 as well as many other phones I've worked on, I have to say the AMOLED will always win for me. I am REALLY big about contrast. I love being able to see a display with nearly infinite black level, beautiful saturated colors and decent energy consumption on top of that. OLED technology is the future in my opinion. It's a new technology and there's still so much room to make it even better and there is so much focus going into making it better.
There is no other screen technology that can produce black levels like amoled. However, IPS displays have the best viewing angles.
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I've held my friend's HTC One X+ (a "Super LCD 2" screen) side by side with my S3, both at maximize brightness, outdoors on a sunny day. The LCD screen was noticeably brighter and easier to read in direct sunlight.
Yeah the whites are off, yeah the brightness isn't the greatest, yeah it is pentile. Technically it's not as good as the screen on the Nexus 4. And yet, my eyes prefer this AMOLED hands down. You can't explain that.
I have a Nexus 10 tablet and the GS3. Although the resolution of the Nexus 10's PLS (a type of LCD) display is unquestionably higher, the GS3's SAMOLED HD is still considerably better, in my opinion. With that being said, the IPS display used in the Kindle Fire HD is absolutely gorgeous. I'd go as far as saying that it gives the SAMOLED HD a run for its money.
This sg3 is my first Samoled device. I love it. Blows away my old Atrix display.
Sg3 is still oentile.but the new note 2 uses the newer tech with samoled..
I'm also coming from an atrix. Amoled technology is much better no question. Much more expensive to manufacture. I love how you put the brightness up a little and see perfectly in sunlight. Plus black themes will save you battery. Plus it looks amazing.
demandarin said:
This sg3 is my first Samoled device. I love it. Blows away my old Atrix display.
Sg3 is still oentile.but the new note 2 uses the newer tech with samoled..
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My cousin got the note 2 the other day, and we compared the two side by side. Honestly, neither of us could tell the difference.
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The s3 has a great screen, but personally I do like samsungs super amoled + better. For example my s2 had a richer contrast to it, that I liked better. However, its still not something easy to see unless you're looking for it. The note 2 when i held them side by side, maybe had a little more sharpness, but that didnt matter to me at all with the fact I found it impractical to use with one hand. Or how I would hate having to hold that huge thing to my ear every time I made a call.
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My wife has an iPhone 5 and i had the iPhone 4 (both LCD) and so I can easily make a direct comparison. The iPhone 5 is much brighter and is more accurate in its color. The Galaxy 3 has deeper blacks and more color saturation. Here is a professional comparison:
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

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