So I've been doing a lot of experimenting over the weekend, and dutifully making Nandroids before trying a new kernel/rom combo. Problem is - I don't remember which is which now.
If I open the clockworksmod folder on my PC and examine each of the folders within, is there anything in there that might give me a clue?
Thanks!
When you boot into clockwork mod, if you click "backup and restore", then "restore", your most recent backup will be at the bottom
Its just a matter of remembering your Nandroid backup order after that. I just keep them written down now.
However, I've always been curious as to whether you can rename the backup in Root Explorer or Astro and still be able to restore it successfully. I dont have a spare phone to test it on though. I suppose as long as the file extension is the same it should still work
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You can rename the folder, so long as there are no spaces in the name. I would suggest, if you do a lot of nandroids, to go ahead and rename each one right after making it. Otherwise, you have to depend on the timestamps. Each nandroid is named based on the date and time, though I doubt the timestamp actually directly coincides with your current time. Mine always seem to be off.
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You can rename the folder, so long as there are no spaces in the name. I would suggest, if you do a lot of nandroids, to go ahead and rename each one right after making it. Otherwise, you have to depend on the timestamps. Each nandroid is named based on the date and time, though I doubt the timestamp actually directly coincides with your current time. Mine always seem to be off.
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The time is based on Greenwich Mean Time, I think. Mine is always off as well.
I also do the renames, but in this case I was a little remiss and couldn't recall which I had done when, LOL! It's all good now though.
You can rename the backups in ROM Manager or by renaming the folders in the /clockworkmod/backup directory.
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Go to where your nandroid backup is saved and sort it by time/last modified. Also, it is save in a time/date naming convention by default yyyy/mm/dd - time something like that
Also this app Nandroid Browser comes in really handy if you're working with a lot of nandroids on the device
Atarii said:
Also this app Nandroid Browser comes in really handy if you're working with a lot of nandroids on the device
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Nice app! Thanks for the suggestion!
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I keep a seperate .txt file in the same folder as fastboot, and write down which backup is which rom etc.
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How can I delete past backups that are stored in the Nandroid Restore utility? I have like 6 and I dont wanna waste that space!
Thanks for the feedback!
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Diamond777 said:
How can I delete past backups that are stored in the Nandroid Restore utility? I have like 6 and I dont wanna waste that space!
Thanks for the feedback!
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They are on your SD card in the Nandroid folder, view the details of the folder and delete the oldest one, I tend to copy them over to my PC to stop space clogging up on the phone.
When I try different ROM's I get them set up how I want them and then do a Nandroid backup, saves having to keep starting from fresh, especially if there is only a small update to be done.
Does renaming the folders messing this up.
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123belly said:
Does renaming the folders messing this up.
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It doesnt mess it up as long as you do the following:
Example:
CBDMRS12-20100128-1509 Original Hero ROM
(just add an explanation of the back up on the end of the ID number, when you want to restore just remove the bit you added and stick it on your SD card.
I have done this a few times, I now have backups of most of the ROMS on here but the difference being that they are all set up with account details etc, i just got sick of inputting the same stuff every time I tried a ROM.
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Does renaming the folders messing this up.
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I can say I changed the name completely and it would not restore. Luckily I had backed it up on my computer. I changed the name back to the original name and it restored no problem.
ljmeli said:
I can say I changed the name completely and it would not restore. Luckily I had backed it up on my computer. I changed the name back to the original name and it restored no problem.
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When unsure, dont use spaces.
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They are on your SD card in the Nandroid folder, view the details of the folder and delete the oldest one, I tend to copy them over to my PC to stop space clogging up on the phone.
When I try different ROM's I get them set up how I want them and then do a Nandroid backup, saves having to keep starting from fresh, especially if there is only a small update to be done.
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I have root explorer on my samsung epic, I do not see Nandroid backup folder - where is it?
Thanks
It's depending on what recovery-rom you have been using..
AmonRA usually saves them at /sdcard/nandroid/ while clockworkmod saves them in /sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid I think..
mljjlm said:
It's depending on what recovery-rom you have been using..
AmonRA usually saves them at /sdcard/nandroid/ while clockworkmod saves them in /sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid I think..
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Found it - it is under my Clockworkmod directory I was looking for nandroid directory
OH YEAH
This has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about but i found this nifty app that is good for looking around in your nandroid back ups..not just too look around but go inside them as you would in a .zip folder (if you get what i mean)
click here >>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.goddchen.android.nandroidbrowser&hl=en
After I make a nandroid backup and just accept the stock file name say
2010-10-03-15.36.02, can I go into Astor File Manager and Rename the backup to Fresh EVO 3.3.0.1 with Netarchy Kernel or by having the EVO plugged into the computer? Is that acceptable for a name or will it not work if i go and run the nandroid backup? Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance. Noob at some of this.
I heard that you can but its not a good idea to put spaces in the name. I usually pull the nand backups off my phone and place them in separate folders that i have named with descriptions, on my computer. Like i said though, ive HEARD thay renaming backups is fine.
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the name doesn't really matter. i have done it both ways and it works
Ok thanks fellas. I am planning on doing the folder on the computer that I can name however I want, only thing is that almost every backup is almost 700mb. Looks like I need to invest in a new portable HD.
Well, I have made a few NAND backups here and there whilst using different ROMs for my Evo. I only have one issue: how do I tell which setup was which ROM? Is there a way I can tell, without NAND restoring each individual one, which NAND backup is which ROM? Like maybe previewing it?
Also, I once read that you can take them off of your Evo and put them on a desktop so it doesn't take up space. Well I was wondering can I rename the folders and files to the setup they are or even to anything? Will it mess up if I try to restore to it after changing the name?
Thanks you
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Well, I have made a few NAND backups here and there whilst using different ROMs for my Evo. I only have one issue: how do I tell which setup was which ROM? Is there a way I can tell, without NAND restoring each individual one, which NAND backup is which ROM? Like maybe previewing it?
Also, I once read that you can take them off of your Evo and put them on a desktop so it doesn't take up space. Well I was wondering can I rename the folders and files to the setup they are or even to anything? Will it mess up if I try to restore to it after changing the name?
Thanks you
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You can remove them to your desktop to free up some space on your SD card and YES you can rename your Nandroid folders not the files.
So for example if your Nandroid folder is setup like this...../Nandroid/HT0CMHL08312/BCDEARS-20110622-0404......THEN you can rename the BCDEARS-20110622-0404 into whatever you want as long as you don't have any spaces and if you do have spaces then replace them with either _ or - to avoid any errors during restore
Oh and this is all assuming you're running amon ra recovery not clockworkmod which the folders will be setup differently which in that case you would just rename the last folder before you see all the files such as recovery.img and things like that.......
Okay thanks. Do you know how I could identify them without restoring to each individual one?
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Okay thanks. Do you know how I could identify them without restoring to each individual one?
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The only way I know aside from restoring them and to be honest, this way is kind of long but not longer then restoring the files one by one IS......
download an app from the market called unyaffs2
Make a folder on the SD card "whatever you want to call it"
once you download that app, copy over the system.img to that folder you just created from whatever restore folder you're trying to ID
Run unyaffs2
Hit Browse for input (find the system.img)
Hit Start Unyaffs
Once is finish doing it's thing, navigate to the folder you created and you should find a file called build.prop, go ahead and open it up with a text editor.....if you're using Root Explorer then is one of the options in that app
Once you're inside that app, navigate to the very bottom until you see "ro.modversion" and that should tell you what the ROM is whether is Cyanogenmod 7 or Sprint Lovers or whatever......
Kinda lengthy haha. I wish they would just have an emulator for PC or something to where you could just have it "virtually restore" from the NAND and see what it was.
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Kinda lengthy haha. I wish they would just have an emulator for PC or something to where you could just have it "virtually restore" from the NAND and see what it was.
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Yeah is long but not as long as rebooting into recovery, wiping caches and factory settings, restoring......getting an ID on the rom and doing it all over again time after time after time...hahahaha
Hey guy's just figured id copy and paste this article I read about recovery backups and blob folder within..
If your like me you probaly wondering what this new blob folder is and why is it consuming alit of space...so I was gonna delete it but decided not too and read first this is what I found:
ClockworkMod Recovery now deduplicates files between builds. This results in way smaller backups.
Don't delete /sdcard/clockworkmod/blobs
Overview
I've gotten a few questions about how this works, so I figured I'd make a post on it.
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/L5aVZe7C9vg
Basically, here's what happens:
The files being backed up are hashed (sha256, not that it matters). Then it checks for a file with the name of the hash in
/sdcard/clockworkmod/blobs
So, if the hash of the file was*c5273884b90d490134e7737b29a65405cea0f7bb786ca82c6337ceb24de6f5ed, it looks for /sdcard/clockworkmod/blobs/c5273884b90d490134e7737b29a65405cea0f7bb786ca82c6337ceb24de6f5ed
If the hash file is found, it continues on to the next file. Otherwise, it copies the file to the blobs directory with the file name being the hash.
ROMs and user data, for the most part, do not change too much between builds and backups. So, your APKs, system files, etc, are generally only stored once. This saves a ton of space. Especially between incremental backups.
Some of you may be thinking "well, how do I delete a backup?".
First, never delete the blobs directory. This would actually delete all your backups by rendering them unusable.
Simply delete the usual backup directory, and the next time you run a backup, all the unused hash files will be automatically delete (a process known as garbage collection). The recovery will show "Freeing space..." while this is happening.
Thank you for the info! I was just looking for this today as my blobs was about 4gb large
Question:
If I wanted to free up space and backup my backups to my PC, could I just move the backup folders with the entire Blobs folder and be good to go?
Thanks.
msherman123 said:
Thank you for the info! I was just looking for this today as my blobs was about 4gb large
Question:
If I wanted to free up space and backup my backups to my PC, could I just move the backup folders with the entire Blobs folder and be good to go?
Thanks.
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Yeah personally that's what I did to save my backups i needed in case of anything...since the new system deletes your old one when making a new backup..it cleans or so called "unused space" now....what I did is save the whole clockwork folder and placed it on my computer and save them as according to what ROM now...this new setup I don't like....I had 4 GB in my blob folder too...what a waste of space. for a new idea..I understand there method of a full proof backup system..but why change something that wasn't broke in the first place right?...
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Yeah personally that's what I did to save my backups i needed in case of anything...since the new system deletes your old one when making a new backup..it cleans or so called "unused space" now....what I did is save the whole clockwork folder and placed it on my computer and save them as according to what ROM now...this new setup I don't like....I had 4 GB in my blob folder too...what a waste of space. for a new idea..I understand there method of a full proof backup system..but why change something that wasn't broke in the first place right?...
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I am not sure, but doesn't cwm have an option to backup to single file like it used to?
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I'm not sure man..if you see it let me know..I'd love the old setup. This new way is horrible... Lol
wish777 said:
I'm not sure man..if you see it let me know..I'd love the old setup. This new way is horrible... Lol
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In theory this should be a much more efficient use of space. Im sure each backup contains a lot of files/data that is already backed up in a previous backup basically wasting space on redundant data. This is kinda like backup cubing sorta...at least the way Im thinking of it. This method saves nothing ONLY if every single backup is absolutely unique which would make your blob huge. I like the idea....but I use twrp so it doesnt affect me.
wish777 said:
I'm not sure man..if you see it let me know..I'd love the old setup. This new way is horrible... Lol
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I don't have cwm installed, but check settings, I am confident you'll find an option for tar or whatever format it was before.
Have you tried twrp? I heard great things about it.
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sonny21 said:
I don't have cwm installed, but check settings, I am confident you'll find an option for tar or whatever format it was before.
Have you tried twrp? I heard great things about it.
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You know I been flashing roms for so many years that I guess im old school. .lol I never tried twrp..I guess I should try it from alot of people giving it such postive reviews..I guess im just stuck in my ways ibshould be more openmined about recovery....lol....thank you
wish777 said:
You know I been flashing roms for so many years that I guess im old school. .lol I never tried twrp..I guess I should try it from alot of people giving it such postive reviews..I guess im just stuck in my ways ibshould be more openmined about recovery....lol....thank you
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Yeah no problem, usually I like to stick to what works for me as well.
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wish777 said:
You know I been flashing roms for so many years that I guess im old school. .lol I never tried twrp..I guess I should try it from alot of people giving it such postive reviews..I guess im just stuck in my ways ibshould be more openmined about recovery....lol....thank you
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Have found that TWRP and CWM have there specific needs and functions. I usually try both when settleing on a dailu driver. Kinda odd but they handle data slightly different and bugs turn up on a install depending on one or the other. (Under controlled conditions and data that you can reference) . I have just had to accept that some things work well with TWRP and others with CWM.
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Thank you guys for the info ..
wish777 said:
Hey guy's just figured id copy and paste this article I read about recovery backups and blob folder within..
If your like me you probaly wondering what this new blob folder is and why is it consuming alit of space...so I was gonna delete it but decided not too and read first this is what I found:
ClockworkMod Recovery now deduplicates files between builds. This results in way smaller backups.
Don't delete /sdcard/clockworkmod/blobs
Overview
I've gotten a few questions about how this works, so I figured I'd make a post on it.
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/L5aVZe7C9vg
Basically, here's what happens:
The files being backed up are hashed (sha256, not that it matters). Then it checks for a file with the name of the hash in
/sdcard/clockworkmod/blobs
So, if the hash of the file was*c5273884b90d490134e7737b29a65405cea0f7bb786ca82c6337ceb24de6f5ed, it looks for /sdcard/clockworkmod/blobs/c5273884b90d490134e7737b29a65405cea0f7bb786ca82c6337ceb24de6f5ed
If the hash file is found, it continues on to the next file. Otherwise, it copies the file to the blobs directory with the file name being the hash.
ROMs and user data, for the most part, do not change too much between builds and backups. So, your APKs, system files, etc, are generally only stored once. This saves a ton of space. Especially between incremental backups.
Some of you may be thinking "well, how do I delete a backup?".
First, never delete the blobs directory. This would actually delete all your backups by rendering them unusable.
Simply delete the usual backup directory, and the next time you run a backup, all the unused hash files will be automatically delete (a process known as garbage collection). The recovery will show "Freeing space..." while this is happening.
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what if you just want to backup your nandroids to an external hard drive. I just copied most of my nandroids from the phone to my hard drive. and deleted them from the phone.
i didn't touch the blobs folder.
So now my backups I copied to my hard drive are useless without the blobs? And on top of that, if I understand correctly, the blobs needed to make those backups functional will be automatically deleted the next time i do a backup?
this sounds horribly horribly wrong. how do i copy functional nandroids from my phone to my hard drive?
mistermojorizin said:
what if you just want to backup your nandroids to an external hard drive. I just copied most of my nandroids from the phone to my hard drive. and deleted them from the phone.
i didn't touch the blobs folder.
So now my backups I copied to my hard drive are useless without the blobs? And on top of that, if I understand correctly, the blobs needed to make those backups functional will be automatically deleted the next time i do a backup?
this sounds horribly horribly wrong. how do i copy functional nandroids from my phone to my hard drive?
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Good question, I made 3 backups one of the stock rom, which I stored to my mac.
The most recent back up the blobs are still on my phone, does that mash my mac backups are defunct now?
Cheers.
Great post wish777. I wondered about deleting a CWM backup when I read about the blob system, so it's great to have the garbage collection clarified.
Still, I agree with the other posts, the blob system makes moving a backup off the phone and back again unreliable. I am also old school - I ghost everything. That's why I'm using TWRP instead. I'm happier just dealing with image files that stand on their own.
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Hello,
I having been having some major problems the last 2 weeks with any and all backups i create of my phone. I have tried to make backups of various Roms using both Rom Manager and also directly by flashing into recovery (CWM touch). Each time the backup is successfully made, but then when i try to flash the backup i get errors saying "file not found". I lost my stock rooted backup, a backup of CM10, a backup of Liquid Smooth, and a backup of JellyBam. Does anyone have any idea why my backups don't seem to work? This is incredibly frustrating as I lose all of data and have no security blanket should something go wrong. Every time i flash a new Rom i wipe Dalvik, Cache, and factory reset/wipe.
Anyone have any idea what's going on with the backups?
what versions of android have you been flashing and are you sure your on the latest recovery?
psycho2k9 said:
what versions of android have you been flashing and are you sure your on the latest recovery?
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Thanks for the reply. believe liquid smooth was version 4.2 and the jellbam was 4.1.2. My stock was either 4.1.1 or 4.1.2, whichever the last update went to. As far as CWM, I am on 6.0.2.3.
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Not sure if this is relevant in all this, but my Titanium Backup wasn't working on it's own either when I flashed any new Rom. It would not see any backups and I would have to go into the Preferences and scan for the folder that had backups in it as it did not automatically detect backups in whatever folder it defaults to. This is also a recent development.
Something Creative said:
Hello,
I having been having some major problems the last 2 weeks with any and all backups i create of my phone. I have tried to make backups of various Roms using both Rom Manager and also directly by flashing into recovery (CWM touch). Each time the backup is successfully made, but then when i try to flash the backup i get errors saying "file not found". I lost my stock rooted backup, a backup of CM10, a backup of Liquid Smooth, and a backup of JellyBam. Does anyone have any idea why my backups don't seem to work? This is incredibly frustrating as I lose all of data and have no security blanket should something go wrong. Every time i flash a new Rom i wipe Dalvik, Cache, and factory reset/wipe.
Anyone have any idea what's going on with the backups?
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I started several threads on this very issue....my backups also are not working - "file not found" You aren't alone, once more people start experiencing this I'm sure we will see an answer
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I started several threads on this very issue....my backups also are not working - "file not found" You aren't alone, once more people start experiencing this I'm sure we will see an answer
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I've tried searching and nothing relevant came up. Do you also have several folders that appear the same when you reboot into recovery? For example, I have a folder titled "0" that popped up around when the issue started. I have a CWM folder as a subfolder under "0" that appears to be identical to the CWM folder that is not in a subfolder. That's why i brought up the issue i am having with titanium backup, wondering if that has anything to do with anything.
I've tried flashing the backups from both the subfolder and the non-subfolder, and nothing seems to work. The only thing i can successfully do is do a complete wipe and reset and flash a new Rom from scratch off the zip.
If your flashing anything 4.2 related its highly recommended that you use twrp as your recovery because of how the files get condensed into that "0" folder.. Your probably going to have to hunt down your backups I'm sure they are somewhere in that 0 folder
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psycho2k9 said:
If your flashing anything 4.2 related its highly recommended that you use twrp as your recovery because of how the files get condensed into that "0" folder.. Your probably going to have to hunt down your backups I'm sure they are somewhere in that 0 folder
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I thought it might have to do with the folder issue, but i have tried flashing from the CWM, backup, and various other folders in both the "0" subfolder and the main folder. In both cases i get an error that say's file not found. That said, do you really think twrp would make a difference? I'm pretty new to android, so i'm not really familiar with it beyond knowing it's a recovery like cwm. I'd be willing to try it out if it wont jack up the little amount of cwm i do actually know and am familiar with. At least now i can flash a new Rom and start over with a titanium backup of files if shizz hits the fan.
The only thing I can think of is to copy and paste the clockworkmod folder from the 0 folder to the root folder and try the restore process from the root folder instead of the 0 sub folder. If that doesn't work I dunno bro
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The only thing I can think of is to copy and paste the clockworkmod folder from the 0 folder to the root folder and try the restore process from the root folder instead of the 0 sub folder. If that doesn't work I dunno bro
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I'll give it a shot even though I've tried loading from the folder directly already.
How would i move it? I've actually tried using file manager and it doesnt let me. It says it can't move the file, or any file actually, from the "0" subfolder.
so i made some serious progress. I used ES file explorer instead of file explorer and it let me move the file for CWM from the "0" subfolder to the main folder. It said that it was going to overwrite everything in the main folder with the subfolder stuff. I accepted and then i dirty flashed a backup of the same Rom (in case the file would not be found again) that had previously not worked.
It actually ended up working. I am afraid to try to flash a backup after completely wiping b/c i dont want to go through the crap of setting everything up again tonight, but i will give it a go tomorrow and report back. So for some reason, backups can't be flashed from CWM from the "0" subfolder, and they can't be flashed from the main folder, unless you move the files from the "0" subfolder to the main folder.
Hope that makes sense to anyone that may have this problem.
If you have the time and are by a computer you can also just move everything out of the 0 folder into the root folder and just get rid of the 0 folder altogether and start from scratch. I think it has something to do with cwm and how they recognize the file system. Like I said you should give twrp a try its very good.
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