I've been in a few car accidents so that doesn't help. I (try to) use my smartphone as much as possible when I'm able. It's pretty much replaced my computer. Looking down at it while using it makes my neck strain bad sometimes and contribute to my daily headaches. Anyone else out there experience this?
Dont understand why you post your pain in e4gt specific forum. Only e4gt is giving you your neck pain & headaches?
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oscarthegrouch said:
I've been in a few car accidents so that doesn't help. I (try to) use my smartphone as much as possible when I'm able. It's pretty much replaced my computer. Looking down at it while using it makes my neck strain bad sometimes and contribute to my daily headaches. Anyone else out there experience this?
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Its probably because of your car accidents. Do you experience this while reading books and magazines?
You should see a doctor, possible a physical therapist about that.
Neck injuries can be really complicated... And without treatment they can remain painful for a long time.
I don't think you're asking in the right place, but I'll bite. One of my dads ex wives was a physical therapist for a VA hospital. Basically your neck is the support system for your big head haha. The further you move your head forward the more pressure is applied. Your best bet is to become more aware of the angle of your head and try to use your phone at eye level at a straight level at all times.
Also, since you've been in a car accident it would surprise me if you've really ****ed up your discs causing more pain from the position of your neck. You need to start going to therapy of some kind to work on fixing your discs and getting them back to normal.
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Dont understand why you post your pain in e4gt specific forum. Only e4gt is giving you your neck pain & headaches?
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Because I have a et4g and since it seems I use this often, compared to other phones. Yes I've seen a Dr regarding the accidents. He said come in and get adjustments and learn to live with it. Lastly, I was trying to create a topic to generate discussion. I was wondering if other people, that haven't been in accidents, experience this too. I guess not.
I have ongoing neck & upper/lower back issues related to a lifetime of playing sports and, to an extent, you do reach a point where you either have surgery or learn to live with it. I've chosen the non-invasive route of learning to live with it because, while surgery might relieve some of my pain, it isn't actually going to be able to reverse the wear and tear on my body. I've been to a chiropractor and, yes it feels amazing, but most insurances do not cover long-term chiropractic care leaving you with a hefty bill that adds stress to your life with aggravates the injury you've sustained.
As mentioned above you should pay close attention to the angle you hold your head when doing anything, not just dealing with your smartphone. When I read, work at the computer and even drive (especially in downpours) I find myself craning my head forward and this is very bad for the neck, shoulders, spine, etc.
I realize we'd look sorta funny holding our phones at eye level all the time but perhaps limiting the amount of time you spend staring at the phone would help, also I use Advil because I won't take prescription pain meds.
In all honesty though, the best thing I've used is mind over matter and that's the truth. I used to suffer debilitating migraines, temporary upper body paralysis, and other assorted sports related pains so rather than become a walking pharmacy I've learned to use breathing exercises, meditation and sheer willpower. Also, when I find myself aching from an activity I take a break from it.
I hope you find some relief, I know the pain sucks.
As you guys probably know, I have 2 phones and if I spend too much time messing with both (especially at night) I sometimes wake up with headaches and sore neck and shoulders. I call it Flashitis...lol. The worst for me is if I have brightness high at night and it triggers a headache. If I wake up with a headache I am shot for the whole day. They don't go away
Edit..I worked for a Chiropractor for several years and, depending on where you hold your phone, it can trigger the pain. You are not supposed to hold it close to your chest with your head down. You should try to keep it nose high in front of you so you aren't arching down to look at it.
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oscarthegrouch said:
I've been in a few car accidents so that doesn't help. I (try to) use my smartphone as much as possible when I'm able. It's pretty much replaced my computer. Looking down at it while using it makes my neck strain bad sometimes and contribute to my daily headaches. Anyone else out there experience this?
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I feel your pain man. I get the worst headaches from sitting at computers. They come from bad posture.
In my case, I have strained the occipital nerves near the back of my head by pushing my neck forward when I am really focused on something that is on the screen. It generates a headache that starts at the back of my head and moves over my ears towards the front (path of occipital nerve).
The doctor told me to stop slouching, and keep my chin in while sitting at the computer. This simple advice has changed my life. I simply dont get these aweful headaches anymore, good posture stops the nerves from being irritated.
I will say though, good posture is almost uncomfortable when you are used to slouching, its easy to just slouch after about 2 minutes of sitting straight, if that. But just do it, and it may change your life, seriously.
I feel like this phone makes my eyes weaker for some reason lol
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I actually get pain in my arm from holding it up to my face all the time.
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I actually get pain in my arm from holding it up to my face all the time.
*waits for "that's what she said" joke"
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That's what she said XD
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I deal with headaches 24/7 and nothing helps. Guess I should try and put my phone down for a bit. lol
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That's what she said XD
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Barrr har har....I knew you guys wouldn't let me down.
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I deal with headaches 24/7 and nothing helps. Guess I should try and put my phone down for a bit. lol
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...or dim your screen a little more. I already get bored pretty easily with this device, so it's not hard for me to put it down and fund something more constructive to do.
Your car wrecks (depending on whether you were hit in the rear or did the hitting ;P Joke?) can cause facet jamming as well as ligament/muscle damage and a host of all other crap. This can cause an increased or decreased lordosis (curve of the spine) which could result in tightened suboccipitals (the muscles that lie between the back of your skull and the vertebrae that hold your head up) and if you stretch them it can cause pain...that just being one case that could cause pain. Regardless, chiropractic care as well as your primary care provider (most likely an MD) should be able to effectively co-manage your case! Also, there's some fascia that's attached to your spinal cord that, if hypertensive, will cause pain. Sorry to ramble...I'm go to a chiropractic college and receiving chiropractic care is what's been helping me.
Maybe get your vision checked. My brothers had those symptoms, adjusted their prescriptions and were money.
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Well, I just ordered a G2 on ebay (YAY!) and I'm not kidding, last night I had trouble sleeping because I am very very worried about a loose hinge. I got this thing off contract AKA expensive and I want it to be perfect.
anyway, my question is as follows, was the loose hinge actually a common problem? or was it only blown up on the forums? I live in Israel where it will be very very hard to replace it if it is defective.
No, people just complain.
Just like when its cold, people want summer. When its hot people want winter.
Its easy to open, people want it tough and firm. When its tough and hard to open, people want it "like the g2". I had the same feeling, its over rated.
I'm talking about the hinge just popping open or closed at weird angles...it would be especially bad for someone like me who texts a lot in bed (and play old gameboy ROMS =])
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I'm talking about the hinge just popping open or closed at weird angles...it would be especially bad for someone like me who texts a lot in bed (and play old gameboy ROMS =])
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It's not really weird angles, it's only when you hold the phone upside down. Then, the forces of gravity kind of open it for you (or close it, if it's already open). Otherwise, the hinge is perfectly stable, tight and functional. As I've said in other discussions like this one, I've held my phone buy the top piece and shaken it and it has not affected the opening or closing mechanism at all.
Rest easy, you're getting a badass phone lol.
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It's not really weird angles, it's only when you hold the phone upside down. Then, the forces of gravity kind of open it for you (or close it, if it's already open). Otherwise, the hinge is perfectly stable, tight and functional. As I've said in other discussions like this one, I've held my phone buy the top piece and shaken it and it has not affected the opening or closing mechanism at all.
Rest easy, you're getting a badass phone lol.
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he tells the truth lol
Lol, so like 45 degree angle is cool? even for those really loose ones from launch day? that literally just pop the F*ck open
It's not really a big thing. Just use your index fingers to hold up the screen, you type with your thumbs anyways. I thought it was a natural habit, but I guess not judging from all those people who complain.
I'm 100% convinced that the "loose" hinge is the way the phone was designed. Problem is, it's not what people expected, so it gets called a defect. Got to love the internet sometimes....
I'm on my third G2 (not because of the hinge) and all of them have opened and closed exactly the same, regardless of part number.
Your phone will be fine, enjoy it. It's a great phone.
the hinge is fine, just use it the way its supposed to be used and you'll be okay.
Thank's yall, the worst part about this whole thing is that I had to get it shipped to my parents house in TN and I gotta wait for a friend of mine who is visiting the holy land on the 22nd to bring it to me.
my screen doesn't slide down, even though I prop the phone up at a 180 degree angle. I think I am one of the few lucky ones with a tight hinge. I've seen some vids where even at a 45 degree angel the screen slides back close.
I like things tight, and I'm glad I added this phone to my collection, along with my girlfriend.
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my screen doesn't slide down, even though I prop the phone up at a 180 degree angle. I think I am one of the few lucky ones with a tight hinge. I've seen some vids where even at a 45 degree angel the screen slides back close.
I like things tight, and I'm glad I added this phone to my collection, along with my girlfriend.
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So she doesn't ever spend money on you then. *chuckle*
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People have made an issue out of nothing
yall? You sure you live in Israel? Only american southern rednecks say "yall".
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So she doesn't ever spend money on you then. *chuckle*
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Well played my good man.
It's one of those things where if you see the video on youtube and then go out of your way to hold the phone in that one way that will make it do this, then, yes, it closes/opens.
It's not a bug, HTC would tell you "FAD". No, not "F-off and die", "functions as designed"
In normal use I've never had any issues.
Including in bed during the marathon session of Angry birds or gameboid (advance wars!) when I should have been sleeping
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yall? You sure you live in Israel? Only american southern rednecks say "yall".
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Lol, I grew up in Memphis TN.... I think I have the right to say yall =)
Not an issue for me, but it can be an issue for those who use a holster. When pulling the phone out, you would have to make sure you grab both halves or it may slide open. You could lose your grip on the phone and drop it.
Basically, using a holster may force you to hold the phone in that youtube way. Meaning some people my experience it day to day in regular use.
I personally solved it the Steve Jobs way. I took the little black rubber band that is included around both the headset and usb cable and wrapped it over the trackpad. Boom.
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there's actually a tear down guide on here about how to make the hinge tighter but it voids warranty and what not. I'd try it myself if I had a torx 6 screw driver.
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there's actually a tear down guide on here about how to make the hinge tighter but it voids warranty and what not. I'd try it myself if I had a torx 6 screw driver.
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I want to try this but my rubberband "trick" does me ok lol. I would love a tight hinge to get rid of my rubberband, but not quite enough to further void my warrenty. I already rooted and Romed, but that's reversible. Taking the phone apart isn't. I'm fully capable of accomplishing it though.
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Yeah, I know, another stupid question from me. I try to be as careful as I can possibly be when it comes to my phones and other expensive electronics. To the best of my bad memory, I can't remember the last time I've dropped a phone on the ground. My s/o and her daughter drop their phones often and seem careless when handling them, especially when they're pissed off. I'm ocd in some ways and I take great pride in treating my phones carefully and not tossing them around. My gf just got a e4gt last night. I was talking to her about the deep scratches her daughter's phone had, like it was dropped on concrete. She got all defensive and started in about "well I'm not perfect!"
I didn't insinuate that I was perfect, only that I was very careful with them. The daughters phone used to be mine. She's on her third replacement of the phone too.
Instead of me rambling as usual, what are your thoughts? I'm so ocd, to give you an idea, I gave someone a two way amateur radio that I wasn't using anymore. I had probably 800 invested in it. I also ALWAYS kept it in its protective leather case. It was maybe 4+ years old and when I took it out of the case to show the guy I was giving it to, it was flawless. Not a scratch or blemish on it. OK, lets hear your stories.
Isn't that humans we're all different ....
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Since I'm sitting on the can, typing out on my phone, not going to get into a story...
But hell yes. I take care of my stuff that I love. I've never understood why people treat their expensive electronics like disposable items.
I stopped buying my teenage daughter nice smartphones. She would render them ugly and useless in 2 months. Everytime.
Since I made her save for the full price of a phone she wanted, magically it still works a year later!
When I worked in computer repair, I would see this all day long...
People would buy new $1000 laptops, treat them like ****, slam the lids shut, toss them around, drop them, wander around the house holding them by a corner while they are on and have things dangling from the usb ports, toss them on counters, eat food and drink beer next to them...
Then 6 months later, wonder why they don't work, wonder why the HD is failing, whether usb ports are broken, blame the company for making ****ty devices, or worse blade us for selling them ****ty devices.
Asshats.
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Both of my teenage daughters are extremely careless with their electronics. I have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on replacements for them and they just keep breaking them. I told them both "NO MORE REPLACEMENTS!". Since then, they have both broken their phones again....and they'll be stuck with their busted phones until their birthdays. They friggin' break everything...even their ipods. My ex is careless with her **** too. I think it's a chick thing.
My son, on the other hand....is like me. He babies his gadgets and hasn't broken a single one. Good boy. Lol
I baby the **** out of my phones. If I drop my phone you'll see me cringe. Maybe even shed a tear. I've only dropped my phones a handful of times, probably less than 10 total times, over the past 8 years or so, and I still haven't dropped my E4GT. Hope I don't jinx it. But my ex is careless with her phones. Within 3 months they look like ****, scratches, scuffed to hell... sorry, but I like my expensive electronics to look nice! THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT THEM! BECAUSE THEY LOOK NICE!
I think this translates to all electronics, as well. My laptop, aside from probably having crumbs under the keys, is nearly flawless after 3 years. My Xbox 360 has never red-ringed, yet I know people who have had 5 Xboxes over the years due to red rings and whatnot. Maybe I just give mine adequate ventilation? DUNNO! But everything electronic that I own, I treat with the respect and care that it deserves. If you take care of things, they last longer. It is a fact.
So glad you posted this thread. Dumb *****es be droppin' phones errywhere I go!
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I baby the **** out of my phones. If I drop my phone you'll see me cringe. Maybe even shed a tear. I've only dropped my phones a handful of times, probably less than 10 total times, over the past 8 years or so, and I still haven't dropped my E4GT. Hope I don't jinx it. But my ex is careless with her phones. Within 3 months they look like ****, scratches, scuffed to hell... sorry, but I like my expensive electronics to look nice! THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT THEM! BECAUSE THEY LOOK NICE!
I think this translates to all electronics, as well. My laptop, aside from probably having crumbs under the keys, is nearly flawless after 3 years. My Xbox 360 has never red-ringed, yet I know people who have had 5 Xboxes over the years due to red rings and whatnot. Maybe I just give mine adequate ventilation? DUNNO! But everything electronic that I own, I treat with the respect and care that it deserves. If you take care of things, they last longer. It is a fact.
So glad you posted this thread. Dumb *****es be droppin' phones errywhere I go!
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I'm always careful with anything somewhat expensive too. My phone has yet to be dropped or scratched in any way. I always get pissed when people (like my mom...) handle my stuff in any way I don't like, even though they think they're being fine. Just yesterday my mom tried to put my binder and math book on top of my laptop. <_< I'm ocd and very protective about all my stuff.
Also, about the xbox issues, rrod depends on a lot of things. Keeping it shoved up against a wall on carpet and letting it get dusty will obviously not help, but it mostly has to do with the motherboard revision you have. How old is your xbox? Since the 2nd and 3rd revisions of the motherboard rrod is very hard to cause (for someone who actually cares about their devices). My 360 from pretty much launch day got the rrod a while back, so I opened it up and fixed it, but once it permanently failed, I got a slim which won't ever fail me. None of my personal jtags have never had any problems except for a xenon a while back (xenons are from the initial release of the 360). Wow, I just ranted on a lot about that so I guess I'll stop now, haha. By the way, I work a lot with modding 360's (both hardware and software) , so that's why I'm into this. If anyone ever has any xbox related questions just ask me
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Man i get mad if my otterbox isnt in perfect condition. Lol if it gets scuffed or scratched i get a new one....lol id lose my mind if i scratched my phone lol
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Yeah, I baby mine too(aside from flashing the #@!& out of it some nights). I put a high quality case and screen protector on it in the parking lot after I got it. And if I ever drop it I get the cringe of death. But regardless of what I've heard some say, I am impressed with the build quality in the event of human blunder
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I'm bad about coddling my phone too I have different color cases to match my clothes and I never rock it naked I have a vinyl skin on it underneath the case and if my housing ever gets scratched I wet sand and buff the scratch out lol, my wife's phone on the other hand lives in a suitcase sized purse with the 9billion pounds of junk she keeps in there so it looks like its done 2 tours in Afghanistan lol
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Nothing drives me crazier than someone who doesnt take care of the phone. I work as an IT in the military, so you can say I've seen some dumb [email protected]/t happen to phones, computers, monitors, you name it. One of the absolute worst cases was when this guy called me down to the "engineering" space to look at one of the computers... Opened it up cause the "video just quit working all of a sudden". Poured about 2 cups of coffee out of the case. Then they had the nerve to ***** to my boss after I told them I wasn't going to replace it since tgey were acting lime a bunch of animals.
Back on topic... I HATE when people dont take care of their phones. My buddy (back before android days) had a brand new iphone 3g. Somehow ran over it (not comepletely) and cracked the whole top half of his phone. Somehow it was still able to make and receive calls....but still, who does that?
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Im anal about my phones like that, they always have a TPU case and screen protector. 9 months later they still look brand new.
I usually buy a cheap case each time i get a new phone but only use it for like a week because i hate the extra bulk. but thank god for gorilla glass cuz today i dropped my phone about 6 feet screen down on concrete and theres not a scratch
I treat mine like it is a bomb. If I let it drop ill die with it. On another note my wife always take care of her electronics. They are all in mint condition.
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Funny how we baby our phones on the outside but aren't.afraid to trash the hardware underneath.
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Funny how we baby our phones on the outside but aren't.afraid to trash the hardware underneath.
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Lol...true that.
We..that is the wife and I baby our phones..the big complaint I have is when she gets a p.o.s case that came from what looks like it was made by LEGO!!
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I've dropped my phone 20ish times in the three months I had it.. caught them all thankfully, but the back elevated lip is a little scuffed, not sure why..
last week my girlfriend was talking and she was using hand motions, (at chest level) and she knocked my phone another 2 feet in the air over cement.. i caught it.. dear god ive never been so happy.. time to use the case..
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I think it usually comes back to who has to pay for the replacements. In my experience, people who have to pay for their own crap take better care of it. It's the ones with protection plans, too much money, or parents who aren't willing to teach them the value of taking care of their stuff who get careless. And yes, it does seems to be far more common with women.
Luckily, my gf takes decent care of her stuff. Being a broke college student who can't afford to replace stuff makes you cautious. I don't even bother keeping mine in a case. I'm careful with it and I never drop it. I just can't stand to take such a nice device and cram in inside a huge, unsightly case. Half the reason I bought it was because it was so light and thin. I bought it the day it was release and I have a tiny scratch on one side that's actually from trying to get a ****ty case off with a coin and a faint line on the back where the speaker bulge touches.
I got pissed because I got a TINY scratch on my backup NS4G. I baby my phones like no other but my laptop... that's another story. I use it for Netflix and Odin and that's it. It doesn't get near the respect that my phones do
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I'm not as careful as I should be with my phone. It's because in 1-2 years it's going to replaced anyways so I just don't feel that sense of attachment.
I still follow basic care though like slapping a case on it, not putting my keys in the same pocket, that sort of thing.
Hey all, I was looking at the Final Countdown widget on my screen with my glasses (I usually wear contacts) and I noticed the numbers seem to come off the screen just a smidge! I looked at it without my glasses and lo and behold, it was as flat as the screen. Lol Why am I seeing this? I have pretty bad astigmatism, so idk if the difference in my lenses cause this little faux 3D effect? Lemme know what you think!
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Yes, I can explain why but it's easier to say that it's an optical illusion because of the way the glasses are compared to the contacts.
Focal points, etc.
I too experience this, I had eye surgery on my left eye but my right eye is perfect vision. Hence I wear contacts as well, tho the right one is so minor I might as well not on that side. When I switch to my glasses, I'll get slightly odd effects, especially at some angles or surfaces.
On a side note, if you see this in your screens, keep in mind it can/will happen elsewhere, like when you're driving with your glasses....
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On a side note, if you see this in your screens, keep in mind it can/will happen elsewhere, like when you're driving with your glasses....
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Whoa... That truck REALLY looks like it's coming right at me!
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Whoa... That truck REALLY looks like it's coming right at me!
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Hahaha, better get out of the oncoming lane then!
Nah, but really, if you have astigmatism, only the actual very center of the glasses lens is truly in focus and some "views" through the lens, if you don't turn your head will be blurry or you may see things that aren't really quite there. You do get used to it over time and tune it out, but if you watch for it, you see it.
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Haha It's a good thing I never drive with my glasses! I'm always worried that they'll fall off somehow when I'm driving and, with my vision as bad as it is, I'd be screwed.
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Since this thread is sooo not on topic with everything else, mind telling me what brand contacts you wear?
My doc had me switch brands again, hoping these will be more comfortable in the long run.
I went from Purevision Toric monthly to Extreme H2O 54 toric bi weekly.
Purevision was nice, stayed clear and you could sleep in them, but irritated my eyes after 5 hours.
Extreme H2O very comfortable, pricy but collect "gunk" faster, so I end up removing and cleaning them in the afternoons.
Why can't there be a perfect model?
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Since this thread is sooo not on topic with everything else, mind telling me what brand contacts you wear?
My doc had me switch brands again, hoping these will be more comfortable in the long run.
I went from Purevision Toric monthly to Extreme H2O 54 toric bi weekly.
Purevision was nice, stayed clear and you could sleep in them, but irritated my eyes after 5 hours.
Extreme H2O very comfortable, pricy but collect "gunk" faster, so I end up removing and cleaning them in the afternoons.
Why can't there be a perfect model?
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Lol I use Acuvue, they work great for me and I can last the entire day without having to clean them. I highly recommend em!
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Haha It's a good thing I never drive with my glasses! I'm always worried that they'll fall off somehow when I'm driving and, with my vision as bad as it is, I'd be screwed.
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Haven't you ever had a contact fold up in your eye while driving? 100x worse. It happens to me once in a while, and it has almost sent me into the median a couple of times. I don't have glasses anymore, but I can't remember ever having an issue driving with glasses. But, ymmv, I suppose.
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I wear glasses and ive noticed this effect.
For example, when looking at titanium backup, some of the entries are red text, and others are gray, white or yellow. The red text seems to stand out in front of the other colors. When i take off my glasses and refocus, the effect go away.
Maybe it has something to do with the coatings they put on the lenses? Ive also noticed when looking at flourescent lights that one edge has a blue halo, the other edge has a yellow halo.
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Haven't you ever had a contact fold up in your eye while driving? 100x worse. It happens to me once in a while, and it has almost sent me into the median a couple of times. I don't have glasses anymore, but I can't remember ever having an issue driving with glasses. But, ymmv, I suppose.
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No, not yet, but since I really only need the contact for the one eye, at least I'd still be able to see.
I think it is cool. I wear contacts all the time and never wear my glasses because I feel like I might wake up and my daughter is standing next to the bed and she gets hit because I don't know who she is. Yes my vision is that bad. But I do see the 3D effect that you mention when wearing my glasses. And I also wear acuvue oasis.
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The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
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I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
Well that sucks.... I cant post pictures of it.... Just google joelespinoza photobucket they should be the top pictures in my only album.
I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Ironically, my Honda battery is suffering during this colder season and could use such a boost! LOL
Honestly, I can't see how anyone could actually use the S3 without a case. I have never held such a slippery and uncomfortable device...begging to fly out of my hand. Too thin. But there are so many case options out there that compliment it. Love it. :good:
On the topic of "entertainment", here is a video for a new Griffen Survivor case that gives your BED DROP tests a run for the money...
all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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Dangerous? is it dangerous to carry a 9 volt battery? Fully charged this is around 4 volts, why would it be dangerous?
When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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Very unlikely, I wear carpenter jeans and and always use the leg pocket for my phone and nothing else goes in there, so there is almost no chance of it shorting out against anything. This phone has had this battery since about 3 weeks after Sprint released the S3s and it has never been an issue, and I recently redid the connections and switched from gorilla glue to thermal adhesive.
Not only that but if it did start heating up, there is nothing holding the battery in there but friction. Pulling the battery out takes me all of 1 second.
But worse case scenario if you wanted to do it and you were worried about it, just pot the side with the connections.
Hahaha this is great, love the idea!
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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I work in IT and keep my pockets very organized, if I was tossing this phone into a purse or pocket with a bunch of loose change or other metal objects I would have it better insulated. I will probably do so anyway at some point but right now it is not an issue.
As a side point I seriously doubt anything but shorting out could possibly cause any kind of "thermal runaway" with this setup. The battery has 5 times the mass and better airflow then stock and the phone can only draw the same power. I do still get a warm screen with this setup (how the CPU/GPU dissipates heat) but the battery never gets much more then body temp, even under the most brutal use for hours at a time.
That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Even if it was awkward to hold, the battery life would so be worth it.. Getting the battery life of my old flip phone would be an incredible experience on a smartphone. I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
Be super careful doing this. I know that lithium polymer batteries are really bad news if they are punctured or damaged... I believe this is also the case with the Lithium Ion batteries.. specifically if you inadvertently short them causing heat and internal breakdown.. Have seem my share of laptops that were burned when someone used the wrong laptop power supply (21V instead of 12V for example)
Not saying to not do this sort of mod... just saying to be VERY careful and don't risk your safety or risk burning down your house for the sake of extra battery life.. there are too many USB charging batteries out there to help with battery life extension if you are away from a USB port for too long.
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Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL!
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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I added a couple pics in the first post.
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I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
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I have done my fair share of messing with electronics, but im not an electrical engineer or anything... If you are comfortable soldering, its not that big of a deal. The hardest part is attaching the wires to the stock battery, because you have to lift up the small circut board the contact points are attached to, then resolder it back down after you attach wires underneth it. But to be fair you dont need the boards of the other 2 batteries so you can pratice on them. Then you line up all the batteries where you want them and glue them together. After that its all wire routing and ataching negatives to negatives and positives to positives.
It would probably be a good idea to have the main battery completely drained before starting. But having the other 4 with some charge would be fine if you are somewhat careful.
Be sure to pick a very thin wire with a decent casing, some kind of ribbon wire would probably work best I think, however, I just used ethernet wire I had laying around, but some of them had great insulation and some of them the insulation sucked.
If you want to play around with it without jumping in with both feet you can take apart just about any old cell phone battery and see how they are put together, they are all pretty similar. My old verizon LG octane 950mAh battery actually runs my S3 and charges normally in it, it just has to be held in with a piece of tape.
Its like anything really, if you are patient and careful you will get a nice finished product, if you are not......
You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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I do agree I should probably slap some insulation on the side... However I think all of you people who are worried about something terrible happening are wildly overestimating the results.... I have shorted out this battery, its not a huge deal. Would it be bad if I purposefully directly shorted it out for a long period of time? Well yea... is it a big deal if it brushes up against something and I immediately pull it away? Has not been a problem so far,,,
This is not a single cell battery, its 5 cells connected by thin copper wire... I have actually used copper wire this thin as a fuse in a pinch, if it gets hot it melts then you are back to a single cell, assuming that the arcing didnt simply melt away the metal shorting out, which usually happens nearly instantly.
I know Lithium ion batteries can be dangerous, I also know how much abuse it usually takes to make them that way. I was around and saw some of these "tests" first hand with Luke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dree...gcnR3aIyzfEYEaOlYsyQe_ANtSuo7U2FsvDnzcBTJK8yE
an s3 commuter with batteries?
who does that?:laugh:
Okay, so, I found out the hard way that even with a hard-shell-back case on the S4, it is very much NOT pocket friendly. Last week (5 days ago), I put my S4 (which i've babied from day 1 and looks brand freakin' new), pull it out of my pocket 5 minutes later to a dead screen. After some fiddling by taking everything out and plugging it back in, I found the screen kind of came back but failed again shortly after that. The S4 felt light to begin with, I didn't think there's a shred of metal anywhere in the device to provide a supportive internal structure to keep things from bending in a way they shouldn't (one of the reasons I bought the case at T-Mo's 80% markup)... After calling in to claim on my warranty (this thing is 6 months old), I brought it into a store and spoke with a rep who said it looked perfect otherwise, brand new, however he confirmed my suspicions that they're only plastic framed. This design is great for many reasons, weight being one, but horrible for things such as pockets, imagine if I had sat down in a car with it in my pocket instead of just walking down the stairs at work and using a urinal... the thing would have been obliterated, even in it's hard-back case. Wanted to get out there and find out if anyone else has had some issues with the S4 and pocket incidents.
To note, I have a random replacement device coming back because they didn't have an S4 on back-back-order and decided rather than to make me wait, they just shipped something android to me, probably not an S4, and if it is, it's black, which I will promptly return because I live in Arizona and black is the worst idea for a color of anything out here unless you want it to be hotter than hell when you touch it. Let's hope they got me something good, not HTC, and not black, I suspect I'm gonna lose this roulette and be stuck with this awful HTC HD7 (WinPhone7, fml) for a while, while I go back and forth with T-Mo to get my replacement android device.
No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
HampTheToker said:
No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
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Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
@elesbb your to much
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elesbb said:
Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
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Pics or it didn't happen.
I second the pics or it didn't happen.
Bonus points if you're wearing guyliner.
I read the other thread on this subject in the I9505/I9500 forums... No one asked this question, what is your BMI (weight (lbs) divided by height (inches) squared multiplied by 703)? Just curious. Mine is 26.4 (considered overweight, can't argue with belly pudge), I wear skinny to straight pants, rocking a Neo Hybrid case - no issues or concerns (aside from the occasional stretch-out-leg-while-sitting-to-pull-phone-out issue). I walk up and down roughly 20 flights of stairs a day, use the urinal 3-4xs, and generally go about my day with my primary device damage concern coming from placing my keys in same pocket and droppage.
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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My thoughts exactly lol
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
Exel said:
Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Lol, tell me about it. :good:
Cynagen said:
Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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i was referring to skinny jeans lol im not that in shape myself
Actually this is kind of what happened to mine, only mine bent the frame along with the busted screen. Mind you this was a hot day and this particular car's A/C (1997 Saturn SL2) is slow to work on hot days (although it feels fine when it's warm but not humid). no more than 15 minutes in my pocket, *break*. of course I had my wallet next to mine.
I have mine in the Leather flip book case and its stable and durable enough to last in my pocket. i have had a slight issue with pocket dialing though, but probably because im not shutting off the screen before closing the case and putting it away.
1buy said:
Can you tell me why? I think should be no problem.http://www.1buy.com/6-inch-zopo-zp9...creen-1gb-ram-16gb-rom-13mp-camera-white.html
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that is disgusting.
TheAtheistOtaku said:
that is disgusting.
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Looks like a Galaxy Mega without the physical home button...
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I've kept mine in my pocket for 3 months and have had no problem with it, other than it falls out of my pocket occasionally when I'm in the car.
Mine always wants to turn on its side in my pocket and sit horizontal instead of vertical... That's annoying.
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