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I've had my Dash for a while now, and I switch between roms not all too often, but every time one annoys me. The first time, I didn't know i could back up my data, but after that I started to make backups with SPB Backup (now trying Sprite as well). In both of these, it says that they back up everything (unless modified, which i do not). So now I want to change my rom again, and I was wondering, if I do a full backup of my phone under Rose Rom 1.7 remade by Ricky & Stylez and I switch to lets say Ricky's v2.4 and the restore, would it mess up my phone? I only think this because everything would include the registry (am i correct?) and to replace the registry of a new rom with that of a different rom would mess up the phone (correct?). I need to have some parts of the registry because of the programs i have installed (some use the registry, if not all [i think]).
Obviously im not extremely knowledgable on the way the Dash/Excalibur works, just want to know what is the best method to do this.
Your correct you do not want to use a backup from one ROM flash a different ROM then use the backup.
New ROM fresh install of programs and tweaks.
i was looking at another thread about backing up data on this forum. In there someone recommended using SKTools to backup specific registry entries. Should i make a back up of MY Files and a backup of the registry entries that relate to the programs i have installed? Would it still work if i restored just my files (no rom files or system files) and the specific registry entries to the new rom?
I am assuming the safest, most crash-preventing way to do this is to do as you said Stylez, just do a fresh install and reinstall everything after that...
The registry entrys where
HKLM\Security\CHome
&
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\CHome
The only prob with that is the the RoseROM is set up slightly different.
But you could just back up the specific parts.
Thnks for ur help Stylez, I guess ill take the safe, but slightly longer way and just reinstall everything from scratch so i dont have to go hunting around the regsitry with SKTools for everything i need to back up.
Those two areas of the registry were my question in the other thread, and it worked out perfectly. I also use Sprite Backup, and it's excellent software.
As for restoring with Sprite, it will not let you run a normal restore when you change roms, because it recognizes when you've changed and will only allow an "upgrade" restore, which allows you to restore personal files, your internet favorites and other things like that. Also, it will allow you to selectively restore these things, as it typically does when you do a normal restore. Make sure you're using the latest Sprite Backup, as it's more reliable with these things.
My own $0.02, after you have any rom set up how you like it, do a full "clean" backup. Then make a folder on your microsd to which you copy your favorites, cpr files, bronzeres.dll if you've modified it, registry portions (like the two I asked about), etc. Then when you switch to a new rom, you can pretty much copy these files back over and take a lot of the headache out of tweaking a new rom... don't worry about backing up reg entries for software you installed outside of the rom, because it's easier to just reinstall those with the new rom.
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Those two areas of the registry were my question in the other thread, and it worked out perfectly. I also use Sprite Backup, and it's excellent software.
As for restoring with Sprite, it will not let you run a normal restore when you change roms, because it recognizes when you've changed and will only allow an "upgrade" restore, which allows you to restore personal files, your internet favorites and other things like that. Also, it will allow you to selectively restore these things, as it typically does when you do a normal restore. Make sure you're using the latest Sprite Backup, as it's more reliable with these things.
My own $0.02, after you have any rom set up how you like it, do a full "clean" backup. Then make a folder on your microsd to which you copy your favorites, cpr files, bronzeres.dll if you've modified it, registry portions (like the two I asked about), etc. Then when you switch to a new rom, you can pretty much copy these files back over and take a lot of the headache out of tweaking a new rom... don't worry about backing up reg entries for software you installed outside of the rom, because it's easier to just reinstall those with the new rom.
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Wow only ever used Sprite once and it cacked out on me didn't realize you could do an upgrade. Will have to try a newer vesion out as with Tilt it's a new ROM to try every week.
Was there not a diference in the reg as i'm sure that the settings panel and since no weather the reg will be different between Kavana & Rose?
So lets say we want to back up PERSONAL DATA. This "Personal Data" excludes programs, system files, ROM files (dont know if you consider system and rom the same, but whatever).
So on Sprite Backup, to do so you would obviously have to do a custom backup. Are these good options to use:::
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(You are presented with a list similar to the one you get when browsing just folders in the windows explorer)
PIM>Select All
Mail>Select All
My Documents>Select All
System Data>Select the following:
>Browser Favorites>Favorites
Storage Card (if you have one)>DONT Select the following(if they exist):
>Application Data
>Program Files
>Windows
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Under System Data>Browser Favorites there is Browser System Data (reg entry it looks like) and Favorites (a folder), so i thought maybe only select the folder since the new rom will have the registry entries for the browser...is the correct?
Would that custom backup work out?
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Wow only ever used Sprite once and it cacked out on me didn't realize you could do an upgrade. Will have to try a newer vesion out as with Tilt it's a new ROM to try every week.
Was there not a diference in the reg as i'm sure that the settings panel and since no weather the reg will be different between Kavana & Rose?
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Yes, there was a difference, and I exported and imported the reg entries with Resco Explorer... but it didn't remove any registry entries, just overwrote the ones that existed in CHome when I exported. So my reg contains the following panels, for example for HKLM>Software>Microsoft>CHome>:
CAppointments, CClock, CHome, CLinks, CLock, CMessage, CMusic, CMyApplication, CMyFaves, CMyPhotos, COffice, CQuicklist, CTestUIPlugin, CWelcomeCenter, CWindowsLive, Fonts, HTCEMAIL, HTCFavorite, HTCMUSIC, HTCSMSMMS, HTCWeather, myfaves, Settings
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So lets say we want to back up PERSONAL DATA. This "Personal Data" excludes programs, system files, ROM files (dont know if you consider system and rom the same, but whatever).
So on Sprite Backup, to do so you would obviously have to do a custom backup. Are these good options to use:::
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(You are presented with a list similar to the one you get when browsing just folders in the windows explorer)
PIM>Select All
Mail>Select All
My Documents>Select All
System Data>Select the following:
>Browser Favorites>Favorites
Storage Card (if you have one)>DONT Select the following(if they exist):
>Application Data
>Program Files
>Windows
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Under System Data>Browser Favorites there is Browser System Data (reg entry it looks like) and Favorites (a folder), so i thought maybe only select the folder since the new rom will have the registry entries for the browser...is the correct?
Would that custom backup work out?
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Just do a FULL backup... you can restore selectively from that too. I always do full backups, that way I can restore selectively when I switch to a new rom...and then if I decide to go back to the ROM I had before, I reflash and do a full restore (just remember to change the Sprite restore settings to "delete all files" and to Replace files, not merge them).
Hey guys,
I've searched the forums to no avail regarding this.
I'm currently on a newer sense rom on my desire z: 1.82. Which means if I want to root I need to downgrade. Every guide I read always starts with: make a backup. Good idea, but all the "complete backup" tools (titanium backup, rom manager, ...) require root to do their work.
So how the hell can I get a complete system image (preferably all partitions) without root so I could later return to my current stock rom with all my settings? Clearly I seem to be missing something here. I tried to start rom manager and titanium backup with psneuter temp root but that didn't work either.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
elitem0b
You can't, actually.
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Well since there is no other answer yet I assume that you simply can't do it ... what a shame. Anyway, to answer my own question there is a way to at least back up the apps, settings and system apps.
In case anyone else may need this:
Code:
adb pull /system/app/ c:\backup\destination\system\app
adb pull /data/app/ c:\backup\destination\data\app
adb pull /data/data/ c:\backup\destination\data\data
adb pull /data/misc/ c:\backup\destination\data\misc
First line backs up system apps
Second line backs up custom apps
Third line backs up custom apps' data
Fourth line backs up settings (e.g. wifi settings)
I put the apps in exactly the same folder structure so I know what to restore to which location in case I want to.
PS: You end up backing up more than you are probably able to restore (e.g. system apps) but it can't hurt
Cheers,
elitem0b
You can use titanium backup after temp root. If gyou use the rage method there is very low risk of damaging anything or even try using visionary for temp root ONLY then delete it after your done backing up and getting work root. This will allow you to save apps and data. Looks like you figured out a way to save system data but I wouldn't bother if I were you. All your contacts are backed up on Google anyway. There's not a whole lot of data to save that's worth risking a brick after.
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elitem0b said:
Well since there is no other answer yet I assume that you simply can't do it ... what a shame. Anyway, to answer my own question there is a way to at least back up the apps, settings and system apps.
In case anyone else may need this:
Code:
adb pull /system/app/ c:\backup\destination\system\app
adb pull /data/app/ c:\backup\destination\data\app
adb pull /data/data/ c:\backup\destination\data\data
adb pull /data/misc/ c:\backup\destination\data\misc
First line backs up system apps
Second line backs up custom apps
Third line backs up custom apps' data
Fourth line backs up settings (e.g. wifi settings)
I put the apps in exactly the same folder structure so I know what to restore to which location in case I want to.
PS: You end up backing up more than you are probably able to restore (e.g. system apps) but it can't hurt
Cheers,
elitem0b
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Hi, I just finally managed to downgrade. Here is what I did to back up.
I used Astro to back up apps. I can easily restore apps after downgraded (but I have to firstly download Astro in order to restore apps)
Contact and calendar was backed up with Gmail.
Navigation map was saved in SD, so I didnt need to do anything.
But I lose my emails in hotmail account. I cant download the older mails (unlike GMAIL)
Now, my next step would be to gain permaroot
Cheers...
Ok, here is the thing: By mistake i delete some file in /system/apps/ via rootexplorer...i thaught i'm on sdcard, an now my phone is very sluggish, 75-80 % processor most of the time and when i want to make a phone call it, the signal is lost for a second and dial pad is closing...
Some ideas to get the defy back on tacks?
Stock: system version: 2.34.1 retail SEA;
firmware version: 2.1-update 1.
Thanks.
1. which apps did you delete?
2. you didn't make a nandroid-backup before deleting them?
for deleting system-apps I would recommend titanium-backup so you can backup the app before deleting it (works even with the lite-version)
I dont know what app i did delete, one or more..., and no i did not made a nandroid backup...titanium i think is not working on backing up system apps..., so any idea besides new rom...?
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I dont know what app i did delete, one or more..., and no i did not made a nandroid backup...titanium i think is not working on backing up system apps..., so any idea besides new rom...?
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for me titanium is working for backing up system-apps. maybe you should try to install titanium perhaps it realizes the traces of the deleted apps and will show you what you deleted...
as long as you don't know what you deleted I do not see an other possibility then flashing a ROM (at least you're still able to backup you're personal data so flashing it would not be that big deal).
btw.: next time you decide to "delete" something, besides making a nandroid-backup, try just to rename the app-file from .apk to .ap (or so). this will have the effect that it will not be used and you can easily reactivate it via renaming it back to .apk again.
Ok, thx. Now to flashing...
So all the tutorials I see say to use "menu>batch" to backup user apps/data, but there is NO BATCH!! I ran backup and it just put a bunch of gz/tar files in a directory!!! So now after I've already updated ROM to JB, TB is not allowing me to restore these files.....or am I missing how to do this?? Why is this app so damn hard to find stuff? Is there any way to restore my stuff or I will have to revert to nandroid backup and use TB again??
BTW, i'm on version 5.4.2.2 pro version
Thanks,
Click the icon in the upper-right with the check mark to get to batch operations.
And those tar.gz files are your backups.
The batch button is on the upper right corner.
And yes TB does compress the back ups.
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ballgum said:
So all the tutorials I see say to use "menu>batch" to backup user apps/data, but there is NO BATCH!! I ran backup and it just put a bunch of gz/tar files in a directory!!! So now after I've already updated ROM to JB, TB is not allowing me to restore these files.....or am I missing how to do this?? Why is this app so damn hard to find stuff? Is there any way to restore my stuff or I will have to revert to nandroid backup and use TB again??
BTW, i'm on version 5.4.2.2 pro version
Thanks,
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Your question is a mess. Your thread title is "how to backup" and your jumbled post is about "how to restore".
In any case, whatever tutorials you're reading are outdated, as TiBu hasn't used a "batch" ever since the ICS version switched to using the Action Bar.
So, to simplify TiBu for you:
1) touch the the little checkmark icon the upperright corner of TiBu
2) Backup your apps and data; not system data
3) Restore later
Easy.
All the rest of the TiBu stuff is for people who aren't afraid to figure it out and/or read their FAQ (no offense)
So I've checked everything in the app.... including the mentioned "check mark" button before posting here. It is not showing any of my backup apps. I've gone into prefs and verified the backup/restore directory. When I go to that directory i see everything but when I go to batch upper right button none of the options show my apps. It only shows the NEW apps on the NEW rom and no options to restore my previous 33 user apps.
Am I missing something here or is it just not working
Sorry about the hasty confusing post...
Open TiBu
Menu/preferences/back up folder location> whole device
it will search your entire phone fit a back up folder
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Open TiBu
Menu/preferences/back up folder location> whole device
it will search your entire phone fit a back up folder
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I did that and I already had the location correct /storage/sdcard0/TitaniumBackup ...... 48 backups.
When I do what you say and do "whole device" it reloads the TB app data. Then I go into batch options and it still doesn't show my backups...
Any ideas? I will try to get screenshots, i'm not sure how on JB yet
Clear data to set everything to default then set the backup directory again and restart the app (or the phone) This fixed it for me.
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Question, after running TiBu, and if I need to restore my phone to factory (w/ root). To restore my apps etc, I need to reinstall TiBu and run the restore?
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Question, after running TiBu, and if I need to restore my phone to factory (w/ root). To restore my apps etc, I need to reinstall TiBu and run the restore?
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Yes.
If you bought Pro, install free version first, then pro.
I'm trying to backup all of the Torque Realtime screens because of the time it takes to make them but it's not working! Does Titanium Pro really backup "User Data" which I would assume that these screens would be??
Someone here has to have done this if they have these 2 apks and backed Torque up using Titanium Pro! Any help much appreciated. It must be in one of the Backup or Restore settings but I can't figure out which one!
In the Preferences of Titanium, tap on Backup settings, and put a tick in the Backup app cache box. Make sure the folder you're saving the backup files to is empty, and then do a backup, but just the Torque app. only.
You then copy that entire folder with what Titanium has saved for Torque to your new device, install Titanium Pro on it, go into Preferences, Restoration settings, and ensure a Tick in the box next to Migrate system data. Then, restore the app. and it should come back the way you had it on your donor device.
@djshotty , very much appreciate your response. Am trying your method now but need to know which 'batch actions' to 'restore' listing to use. I've been using "Backup all user apps" to backup and I've been using "Restore all apps with data" and then 'Deselecting all' and only selecting Torque and then do the Restore. Where, except what you mentioned, have I been doing wrong???
Just finished testing and still the same problem. I did a backup, ticking places you mentioned using a new empty folder, and then did a restore(of Torque only). It looked the same....BUT I next erased one of the PIDs on one of the screens. Then without doing another backup, I restored that same backup and what I erased is now gone. In other words, the backup should have restored the screen the way it was backed up!...must be another 'tick box' that I have ticked or don't have ticked that needs to be. One other thing, I don't have any scheduled backups set so they don't change my testing while trying to find what the problem is. Thanks for helping!
On the Batch actions - ALL screen, Run the Backup all user apps + system data, then Deselect All, scroll down to find Torque, put a tick in the box, tap the green tick at the top right of screen and back it up.
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On the Batch actions - ALL screen, Run the Backup all user apps + system data, then Deselect All, scroll down to find Torque, put a tick in the box, tap the green tick at the top right of screen and back it up.
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@djshotty apparently you aren't reading my post correctly. I have backed up Torque and stated in my post. I am not trying to migrate my settings to another unit as you mentioned. Titanium Pro should never change a backup once its been backed up. That's why one can do multiple backups. If I make a mistake and delete an app that's been backed up, Titanium can restore it. Why you are getting defensive? I have said nothing but that I have followed your instructions and they did not work. Titanium is not restoring my backup as it was when I backed it(Torque) up. Proof: I backup Torque and then make a change to Torque. I then restore Torque and the changes that I made are in the backup that gets restored!!! And that's without doing another BackUP...just Restore.
I'm just asking for help from anyone that uses Titanium Pro that can guide me to where in the settings that must be wrong to cause my problem. Thanks again for attempting to help!
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I almost peed my pants after reading this...lol
If the steps outlined are not working something must be wrong with the application installed, or a pebkac error... I too have used TB for years since since the HTC Incredible came out and have never had a problem when following these same steps. I have never known TB to change a previously created backup.
matt1981m said:
I almost peed my pants after reading this...lol
If the steps outlined are not working something must be wrong with the application installed, or a pebkac error... I too have used TB for years since since the HTC Incredible came out and have never had a problem when following these same steps. I have never known TB to change a previously created backup.
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@matt1981m, instead of peeing in your pants, why don't you attempt what I have posted and then post that it works for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its obviously changing my backup. If you use Torque, make a backup, go back into Torque and just change one easy PID on one of the screens by deleting the PID, and then restore your backup just for Torque and see if that PID is really still there where it was. Then post your reply! I'm not saying that Titanium Pro has the problem, I'm trying to find out why and how to fix my problem with Titanium's backup! I thought this site was for members to get help and to offer help to those that need it instead of making derogatory remarks about someone's problems with any app. If you check most of my post, you will find that I attempt to help others instead of criticizing them...
I apologize if you felt I was criticizing you. That was not my intention. I have torque pro installed and configured on my HU. I haven't had any issues, and I haven't specifically tried modifying the PID as you have mentioned, but I have used TB to restore settings for Torque Pro. I will be installing a SoM upgrade to a RK3188 in a couple days, depending on USPS, and I will update this thread at that time to share what results I have with the current versions of both apps.
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I apologize if you felt I was criticizing you. That was not my intention. I have torque pro installed and configured on my HU. I haven't had any issues, and I haven't specifically tried modifying the PID as you have mentioned, but I have used TB to restore settings for Torque Pro. I will be installing a SoM upgrade to a RK3188 in a couple days, depending on USPS, and I will update this thread at that time to share what results I have with the current versions of both apps.
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Thanks Matt, for your reply. I have been using Titanium for months without problems. But when changing one of the screens in Torque, NOT Modifying the PID, but deleting one PID or adding a PID, and then change my mind and want it back like when I backed it up, it restores the screen as I last modified it after the backup! Since I changed it, it's different than the backup. The backup should return the screen to when I backed it up. It does not! I will add that I never tried this before.......and I just used Malaysk's Lollipop ROM to upgrade from KItKat 4.4.4 to LP 5.1.1.....Thanks @Malaysk ,don't know that has anything to do with the problem. It appears, from the way that mine is doing, that Titanium is monitoring in the background and keeping my changes overriding the backup when they are different. I'm very new to the Android devices and have a very lot to learn about root and different apps. Please try when you get the SOM upgrade and duplicate what I tried and post results here. I use paypal and will pay for the solution to the problem if one exist! Thanks again
I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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will do, and thanks.....having no problems with 5.1.1.....but I don't have access to anything but wifi on the road, so no phone, no internet,,,,,just music, GPS, and off-line maps...bjut well worth it.
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I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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will do to Malaysk, and I'm having no problems with 5.1.1
DWilks said:
I backup Torque and then make a change to Torque. I then restore Torque and the changes that I made are in the backup that gets restored!!! And that's without doing another BackUP...just Restore.
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That's because Titanium replaces the files in the data folder with what it's stored away. If there are new files with different names containing the changes you've made to the app., they won't get overwritten.
I'm just asking for help from anyone that uses Titanium Pro that can guide me to where in the settings that must be wrong to cause my problem. Thanks again for attempting to help!
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Because of how Titanium does it's thing, there's no 'Setting' that will force it to overwrite the install folder's files when it hasn't actually got them stored away. When you make changes to the app.'s system files, they get changed from what Titanium backed up. You're asking to restore your old settings for Torque over the top of what you changed? Then go into your device's Settings menu, Applications, Application manager then delete all data for Torque and then uninstall it. Next, restore the app. from Titanium directly, and you'll be back where you were at the time you backed the app. up.
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Save/restore /sdcard/.torque
I have the same issue. I've reset my phone and restored all apps using Titanium Backup yet the custom screens I had created for Torque, including my vehicle profile, weren't restored. My backups for all other apps and data restored fine, except Torque.
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I have the same issue. I've reset my phone and restored all apps using Titanium Backup yet the custom screens I had created for Torque, including my vehicle profile, weren't restored. My backups for all other apps and data restored fine, except Torque.
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Glad to help you on this problem ShieldOfSalvation. That was one of the most frustrating problems that I had and couldn't get an answer that worked. Those screens are a pain in the ass to have to keep making.
Here's a solution that worked for me: All of your screens & vehicle settings are located in a folder called ".torque" (without those quote marks) .torque . It's located in the "internal storage sdcard" as in this location "internal storage sdcard\.torque . That 'slash mark' might be flipped the other way...as in / instead of \...I don't remember which.
You need to copy the folder .torque WHILE YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SCREENS THAT YOU SET UP to an External device like the EXTERNAL SDCARD (GPS CARD if you have one). And then, after you have completed whatever upgrade or process that you have done that erases your "screens and vehicle settings" and goes to default, JUST COPY YOUR SAVED .torque FOLDER BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL LOCATION AND OVER WRITE THE ONE THAT'S NOW THERE. You can also rename the .torque folder that's in the internal storage sdcard and paste the SAVED .torque folder there. If you don't make any changes to your screens very often, keep that .torque folder with your screens in a safe place and just copy and paste it over the default one. If and when you do make changes, make sure to recopy .torque folder and store it in a safe place .....that's it....Hope it works for you!
DWilks, if you're right, then when I get home tonight I should be able to restore that .torque folder because in addition to Titanium Backup Pro I also use SyncMe Wireless by bvaisoft to backup the entire internal SD card and external SD card (including my Titanium Backup archives) to a network hard drive on my LAN. In this case where TB Pro appears to have missed that folder, SyncMe should have saved my hide. It snapshots the entire SD card's files and folders. I will come back with results later.
SyncMe did backup my .torque folder in the internal SD card because I had it set to copy hidden files and folders nightly. After copying it back to my SD card from my network share backup location, I was finally able to see my vehicle profile again in Torque and my custom dashboard is back. Thanks, DWilks!