[ CDMA / Verizon ] question on bad signal issues.. - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I tired to search but unsure if I pulled CDMA 100% or not..
None the less, Im going to move over to Verizon and Im after the Nexus. I see people say the signal is bad etc etc. Im coming from the HTC evo and Ive always prety much ran AOSP roms. As we know ( or us Evo users ) the AOSP roms dont show " full " signal. But it shows actual signal. Is this the issue people are ***** about? IS this what they are talking about, in terms of bad radios etc?
AOSP roms show the true signal, but not a masked/boosted signal similar to HTC phones done, right?
The bad radio rumor isnt a bad radio, just the way AOSP roms show the signal... right?

The bar reading was jacked up a notch in 4.0.4 (2 bars of signal in 4.0.1/2 will show up as 3 or even 4), but the db reading in Settings is still correct (though, read issue #2 below). The phone is fine hardware wise. What confuses (or convinces) people are three things:
1) Some people got duds. This will be very obvious because you won't get signal even in areas where other people on VZ can connect. You need to get the phone swapped.
2) The GN has a weird way of reporting signal strength. They completely over-do the hysteresis, so if you test/compare with another phone, you have to keep the GN in one spot for 10-20 seconds before you get the same reading.
3) Software bugs in the baseband which will crash the radio interface and leave you without data for up to a minute. There also appears to be some hand-off issues that may keep you on 3G when you should be on 4G.
The GN has no worse reception than any other Verizon handset, aside from the fixable bugs in the baseband, which really aren't "reception" issues anyway.

So with what you said, all the apparent issues that are there, are fixable in terms of ROMs or official fixes? I like to tinker with my phone, but not to keep it running correctly, ya know?
Is this issue still reported on the current batch of Gnex's?

I just got my Nexus a week ago, but it has worked perfect in terms of signal and data. No dropouts. My radio is whatever it came with, but my ROM is BAMF Paradigm

mroneeyedboh said:
So with what you said, all the apparent issues that are there, are fixable in terms of ROMs or official fixes? I like to tinker with my phone, but not to keep it running correctly, ya know?
Is this issue still reported on the current batch of Gnex's?
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Personally, I've had fewer issues with the Galaxy Nexus than I did with the Nexus One (that phone DID have bad reception. Great call quality though) or the WinMo phone I had before that. Whenever I have connection issues, I just turn on and off airplane mode and the phone will come back and reconnect to 4G in ~15 seconds. Nothing serious beyond that.
Some people have had more serious issues, and I can't say if it was their phone or the network equipment used in their area or what. Only way to be sure is to try one out. I have little doubt that ~99% of GN users have little/no issue, but the ~1% that do have problems are vocal about them (they should be, this thing isn't cheap).
EniGmA1987 said:
I just got my Nexus a week ago, but it has worked perfect in terms of signal and data. No dropouts. My radio is whatever it came with, but my ROM is BAMF Paradigm
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ROM has nothing to do with signal. Only the baseband matters.

ATnTdude said:
ROM has nothing to do with signal. Only the baseband matters.
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Actually, if they have updated telephony, it can. For example, there are signal improvements in 4.0.4, but you must run the rom and the radios.
That said, Paradigm has made no telephony changes from aosp 4.0.3.

adrynalyne said:
Actually, if they have updated telephony, it can. For example, there are signal improvements in 4.0.4, but you must run the rom and the radios.
That said, Paradigm has made no telephony changes from aosp 4.0.3.
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I was really simplifying things since this was a non-technical question. If you go from 4.0.2 to 4.0.3+, you may have more hooks into the kernel and from there into the baseband, but jumping randomly from ROM to ROM isn't the best way to solve a signal problem. Changing the baseband is the best way, kernel the next, and finally the Android version. Basically go in order of distance from the hardware, noting that each level is significantly less likely to cure you.

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I was really simplifying things since this was a non-technical question. If you go from 4.0.2 to 4.0.3+, you may have more hooks into the kernel and from there into the baseband, but jumping randomly from ROM to ROM isn't the best way to solve a signal problem. Changing the baseband is the best way, kernel the next, and finally the Android version. Basically go in order of distance from the hardware, noting that each level is significantly less likely to cure you.
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After reading hundreds of posts on connectivity issues, yours is the first to bring some lucidity and sanity to the hardware issue. Now someone needs to focus on the BS from the carriers and the inadequacy of their distribution systems.

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[Q] Best Radio for CM7

What radio is everyone using or would recommend for CM7?
I can't post in the development forums yet even though i've been here awhile just a lurker though.
2.15.00.07.28 There is a newer one I believe but I haven't tried it.
This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
Noticed a bit of a stronger signal when I flashed the 11.19 radio (newest). As I understand it all phones are different though, I would test each one and see what works best for you.
drynyks said:
This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
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Yeah but i would have just posted in the CM7 thread, but i understand.
I have the 11.19 radio right now (flashed it and hboot 92 while running SR 3.5 athena and it killed my wifi...) seems to be doing fine. Took about 3 tries to get CM7 working correctly for me though. Kept getting a boot loop forcing me to reflash.
Give each radio a test drive yourself for a few days. Asking what radio you should use is like asking someone to tell you what your favorite color should be.
Baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon your individual variables. As such, someone else's experience isn't necessarily a reliable indicator of what you can expect on your own phone in your location.
I'm running 11.19 now on rooted 2.2 and I seem to be getting better signal now than I did before. I was at Camp Old Indian over the weekend and was getting 2 bars consistently while everyone else got "no service". Anyone in Scouting that knows the upstate area of South Carolina knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm using 7.28. I was using 11.19 for a about a month before going back. Cell reception is the same but 3g is faster on 7.28. Atleast for me it is. I never use gps so cant speak for that.
I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
There is a thread in the development forums that is a must-read if you are considering a radio flash so you A)know what to do and B)don't permanently brick your phone.
Read it...
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I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
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The next time you have to reboot your phone, go ahead and pull the battery too. It might help to completely power down the device. It may not help, but it can't hurt.
i have been using the 11.19 radio for a couple of months and it works well for me.
Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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kenneu said:
Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Ok, so I ran 10 trials each for the three kernels about 1 minute apart and measured dBm and kbps UL and DL speeds using speedtest from the market....
Having testing it and reflecting on the data, it's impossible to test meaningfully with just one phone.
The upload and download speeds vary too much from moment to moment and within an hour apart, 11.19 went from an average DL speed of 480kbps to 1150kbps. This is clearly just a function of who is currently sucking up bandwidth and unless I have three phones with the three versions of the radio side by side running the tests, I don't know how I can make it meaningful.
I did compare the dBm on each kernel and they were within -1 dBm of each other consistently. The phone was placed in the exact same location and I watched for changes in the number until the screen blanked. I then opened it again and monitored it again until it timed out and so on... 10 times for each radio version. The difference was so small it would have to be considered insignificant.
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
The new 4.08 radio is working good for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035955
kenneu said:
Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
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As far as receiver sensitivity goes...I was an electronics technician at one time in my life, and I too believe the hardware is the limiting factor. E.g: My phone is setting in the exact same spot, facing the same direction, and I updated from 11.19 to 04.08, and only noticed -1db difference. I am using the Real Signal app. And it shows the relative strength of both signals that our CDMA phones use.

Radios Verizon Galaxy Nexus

I updated to jellybean on my VZW nexus and have been dropping my signal a bunch randomly. I just got a refurbished phone from verizon and I flashed it first thing so I don't know if it is a problem with the phone or the stock AOKP radios I have installed. I was wondering if anyone knew if I can use the radios from 4.0.4 on jellybean or not?
rustid said:
I updated to jellybean on my VZW nexus and have been dropping my signal a bunch randomly. I just got a refurbished phone from verizon and I flashed it first thing so I don't know if it is a problem with the phone or the stock AOKP radios I have installed. I was wondering if anyone knew if I can use the radios from 4.0.4 on jellybean or not?
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I don't know the answer to your question, however...
Got my wife a free Galaxy Nexus from Best Buy last week (verizon)... and instantly had problems w/ the 4g. After a ridiculous period of time at Best Buy to get the phone activated (they tried multiple SIM cars) and her contacts downloaded, we finally left being assured that the 4g problems were due to the activation process, and were told to give it a day or two. I was skeptical.
So we flipped off the LTE/CDMA mode, and went just to CDMA and used 3g for a few days. Called Verizon, they refreshed the network / cleared out the lines (whatever that means), and still no 4g. Every time we'd turn on 4g mode, it would connect, then drop moments later. When it dropped, it also dropped the phone line. After a week, my wife had finally worn me down. I conceded to her that a very very very very remote possibility had occurred, and we had gotten 'a bad phone'. Dear lord, did I want her to go to Best Buy w/o me. But i got suckered (she's pregnant).
So after another 2 hours at Best Buy, a new phone, and a new SIM card... we walked out w/ the same problem as before. Apparently, there's something going on w/ Verizon's latest software version ... our only option is to use 3g for a bit. I called Verizon to try and get some free money towards my bill out of them, and the customer support rep told me my best option at this point was to return the phone and choose a different device. Talk about horrible support.
So now i've come here to pretty much try what i think you'er aiming for... maybe by going to CM9 or CM10, her phone will be able to keep a constant 4g connection... only time will tell.
rustid said:
I updated to jellybean on my VZW nexus and have been dropping my signal a bunch randomly. I just got a refurbished phone from verizon and I flashed it first thing so I don't know if it is a problem with the phone or the stock AOKP radios I have installed. I was wondering if anyone knew if I can use the radios from 4.0.4 on jellybean or not?
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There is no such thing as "stock AOKP radios." The baseband version is independent of the ROM, so whatever baseband you had after flashing was the exact same one you had prior. The signal drops are a common issue and could be attributable to the fact that there are no JB basebands released for the i515 as of yet.
The issue is with your device and not the radio's or the OS version you are on. Nothing you do will fix it or make the issue disappear. There are good GNEX's out there that do not have the radio problems, it took me three tries to get one.
Don't believe anything else you hear about fixing what you have. It is all BS.
Occam's Razor is applicable here. When the problem is persistent on 4.1.1 and is not present after reverting to 4.0.4, it's a software issue. That's not discounting the ones put there with hardware issues, but the fact of the matter is that signal problems are to be expected for vzw users running JB. We have updated binaries, but until a new baseband drops for the i515, it's not going to play especially well with JB. Such is the price for us early adopters.
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The issue is with your device and not the radio's or the OS version you are on. Nothing you do will fix it or make the issue disappear. There are good GNEX's out there that do not have the radio problems, it took me three tries to get one.
Don't believe anything else you hear about fixing what you have. It is all BS.
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I've seen two types of issues on the gnex.
1) 4g drops out and either drops to 3g or 1x for a period of time, in which it reconnects to 3g/4g shortly after. This seems to be a once in a while type issue. This seems to be more radio related.
2) 4g drops and your phone drops signal, period, for that time and then reconnects quickly. Easiest way to tell if its doing that is to check the battery stats graph and look for red slivers in your data connection. This issue from what I've seen is more hardware and I'd suggest replacing the device within your 14 days.
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The ongoing theme is it's a great phone other than noisy calls, occasional drops, data signal/connection issues, and fragile glass.
And we're partly to blame. Short life cycles and youthful koolaid drinking consumers enable phone manufacturers to continue to build with a style over function mentality.
najaboy said:
Occam's Razor is applicable here. When the problem is persistent on 4.1.1 and is not present after reverting to 4.0.4, it's a software issue. That's not discounting the ones put there with hardware issues, but the fact of the matter is that signal problems are to be expected for vzw users running JB. We have updated binaries, but until a new baseband drops for the i515, it's not going to play especially well with JB. Such is the price for us early adopters.
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My 3rd replacement says otherwise. I have been on JB for 3 weeks now with this device and have not had any issues with 4G.
If every LTE GNEX had the same issue on JB I would agree with you but that is not the case. I wouldn't believe it either until I finally received a perfectly working GNEX. Always thought it was the software but I was proven wrong.
rustid said:
I updated to jellybean on my VZW nexus and have been dropping my signal a bunch randomly. I just got a refurbished phone from verizon and I flashed it first thing so I don't know if it is a problem with the phone or the stock AOKP radios I have installed. I was wondering if anyone knew if I can use the radios from 4.0.4 on jellybean or not?
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Go here and get the FC04/FC05 radios.
Radios are independent of the ROM, so you can install any radio you want on any ROM. FC04/FC05 are the latest basebands.
jpinsl said:
Go here and get the FC04/FC05 radios.
Radios are independent of the ROM, so you can install any radio you want on any ROM. FC04/FC05 are the latest basebands.
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His device should already have these radios if he recently received it.
My suggestion is do not play games with radio swapping, keep excahging until you get one that works.
Also, why not restore to ICS first and see that it is your phone and not the software.
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Occam's Razor is applicable here. When the problem is persistent on 4.1.1 and is not present after reverting to 4.0.4, it's a software issue. That's not discounting the ones put there with hardware issues, but the fact of the matter is that signal problems are to be expected for vzw users running JB. We have updated binaries, but until a new baseband drops for the i515, it's not going to play especially well with JB. Such is the price for us early adopters.
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My old phone with the blown speaker on the same 4.1.1 rom does not have this issue. I never tried stock ICS, I flashed this phone as soon as I got it. I think it is the phone.
I have the drop issue sometimes but in my case I'm sure its not the phones fault as it doesn't happen at home (only at work)
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Running jellybean now, but my 4g has always been erratic at connecting. Sometimes its fine and sometimes it switched back and forth in the same location.
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Loss Of Signal When Wifi's In Use?

So, I've had my phone for probably about a year or maybe longer, Rooted it when I first got it, came from an Eris...I flashed a few different ROMs then kinda settled and have been out of it for quite some time now...
But I'm back...and I've got a question, back when I was flashing ROMs often, I couldn't find one that wouldn't drop network connections while using wifi/wifi tether.
Has this issue been resolved? It didn't seem like it was ever a really big issue with most, before, so when I asked about it months ago, no one said much, but I'm hoping now, with newer releases of ROMs someone will have some more info on this issue?
Thanks in advance...
p.s.
currently I'm running TSM Bullet Vivow 1.4 and haven't flashed anything for a good 8 months and I'm gettin buggy and wanna upgrade to something fancy, fast and doesn't drop service...
You need to get a update of your firmware
I'm still a newb on a lot of stuff...how do I go about doing that?
Just google
Are you referring to a radio update? Last I checked, that wasn't the issue and I tried different radios with no results
Kamikaze - I experienced this as well on Bullet, is it while you are on the phone and the call drops out for a few seconds? I think it has to do with the modified boot.img that the port uses.
This is a list of what worked without connection issues for me.
- Unoffical CM9 by Aeroevan
- Nitsuj's stock port for our phone
- Mikrunny (I think but cant remember)
Yeah, it is a problem with ROMs that are ported. The only ROM this doesn't happen on for me is Justin's stock/stock-modified ROM.
I always found that all ported ROMs worked for me because I had the latest OEM radio. But, when I had the leaked ROM for the DINC2 it said to update a radio but I didn't and the WiFi and data signals kept over writing reach other.
So, its just a thing with the radio.
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My experience has been less than pleasant with my signal on my Inc2. I have been all over google trying to find a way to boost my signal for the Inc2. I have only had my Inc2 for a few months and just rooted a few weeks ago. Mine problem is not a result of having WiFi on/off, mine is just a week signal period (-95 dBm to -105 dBm). From what I found through my search is people modifying the back cover with foil/copper wire and tape, raising the cleaning the contacts for the antenna, which I have tried all of these as well. I am considering buying a new cover just to see if I can get a better signal as everything I have tried has failed to boost my signal. I have tried *22891 to update my PRL as well as toggling the settings from CDMA only PRL and CDMA/GSM PRL. If anyone finds the magic trick to boost signal strength I am open to other suggestions.
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My experience has been less than pleasant with my signal on my Inc2. I have been all over google trying to find a way to boost my signal for the Inc2. I have only had my Inc2 for a few months and just rooted a few weeks ago. Mine problem is not a result of having WiFi on/off, mine is just a week signal period (-95 dBm to -105 dBm). From what I found through my search is people modifying the back cover with foil/copper wire and tape, raising the cleaning the contacts for the antenna, which I have tried all of these as well. I am considering buying a new cover just to see if I can get a better signal as everything I have tried has failed to boost my signal. I have tried *22891 to update my PRL as well as toggling the settings from CDMA only PRL and CDMA/GSM PRL. If anyone finds the magic trick to boost signal strength I am open to other suggestions.
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Are you s-off, and if so are you on a more recent radio?
I am s-off and I am on the 1.09.01.0312 radio.
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I am s-off and I am on the 1.09.01.0312 radio.
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Then I don't have any advice for you. Do you get bad data speeds or drop calls, or is it just the numbers that bother you?
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Then I don't have any advice for you. Do you get bad data speeds or drop calls, or is it just the numbers that bother you?
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Data speeds are a bit slow but that is not really a problem as I connect to wifi most of the time. The major problem is I get grumbled voices a lot when the signal drops below -100 and I have to change rooms to continue the conversations, only a dropped call from time to time, but I get people telling me they tried to call me but my phone didn't ring and I think that is a result of the low signal strength. I think this is a hardware problem more so then a software/rom issue because a lot of people have an issue with low signal with the Inc2 I found searching on the Verizon forums. I do appreciate you taking time to inquire.
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My experience has been less than pleasant with my signal on my Inc2. I have been all over google trying to find a way to boost my signal for the Inc2. I have only had my Inc2 for a few months and just rooted a few weeks ago. Mine problem is not a result of having WiFi on/off, mine is just a week signal period (-95 dBm to -105 dBm). From what I found through my search is people modifying the back cover with foil/copper wire and tape, raising the cleaning the contacts for the antenna, which I have tried all of these as well. I am considering buying a new cover just to see if I can get a better signal as everything I have tried has failed to boost my signal. I have tried *22891 to update my PRL as well as toggling the settings from CDMA only PRL and CDMA/GSM PRL. If anyone finds the magic trick to boost signal strength I am open to other suggestions.
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Looking for a lower number would prove challenging unless you are right next to a Verizon tower. I know this because at work we have one on premises and my signal goes to 40 to 60 dbm.
Of course, at home, my signal ranges from 85 to 105 dbm but experience no dropped calls.
Ever since I got my first verizon phone in 2001 the signal quality has mostly measured (on every phone) at approx 85 to 105.
And this is living in two metropolitan cities. I wouldnt give it that much thought unless you are dropping calls. Upgrading the radio is a good idea though as well as PRL after upgrading radio.
Edit: Just realized your post was answered. I would call Verizon and inform them of the call drops and ask them to log them. Could be your unit.
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Kamikaze - I experienced this as well on Bullet, is it while you are on the phone and the call drops out for a few seconds? I think it has to do with the modified boot.img that the port uses.
This is a list of what worked without connection issues for me.
- Unoffical CM9 by Aeroevan
- Nitsuj's stock port for our phone
- Mikrunny (I think but cant remember)
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Which rom are you referring to exactly? Link to thread would be nice Thanks!
Yeah, just an update, nothing has cured the issue, updated both firmware and radio with the lastest leak ROM when it came out last month, then switched to different CM ROMs and those were horrible with the toggling of wifi hot spot signal and mobile network, so I went back to bullet and am just living with the random toggling off of wifi/network
I had been bouncing around on alot of the ICS rom's but couldn't seem to find one that this issue was gone. I think it is kernel related.
Since I want my phone to not have this issue I went back to GB for now which for me I didn't want to but this rom works just flawless for me.
GB Sense M 5.0.1 Ext4 Version w/ Drell's #21 Kernel w/ Sense 3 Patch v5.0
Was going to try cm7.2 next since I have always liked non-sense roms.

4.2.2 OTA signal question

Hey folks,
Just a quick question I was hoping to get some clarification on:
Like many, I got the 4.2.2 OTA on Tuesday evening and everything went fine with the download and install. That being said, I'm having some signal issues that are a bit strange. For the most part the signal quality is fine. Not really having any connection issues, but I've noticed lower bars being shown overall. After doing some digging though I've determined that apparently 4.2.2 reports signal quality differently than 4.1.1 did... representing a much truer value based on dBm and not overly inflating things for constant 3-4 bars. Essentially it's like I remember way back with 4.0.2. I still find it a little odd that I can show -85dBm and only have 1 bar, but if that's how things are reported in 4.2.2 then so be it.
The thing that's bothering me though is this: at times my signal will read 0dBm 99asu. I'll have zero bars showing, but it will still show 4g in the notification bar and will say connected to the network in status. I can make calls, text, surf the web, download apps, even run speed tests without any problem (although not great numbers, they're not horrific either) Eventually bars and dBm "come back", but the amount of time for that to happen varies. Again, nothing seems to be affected by this, but it's just a little disconcerting to have happen.
So, has anyone else experienced this? Google searches show some talk of it but otherwise haven't turned up much. I've done a battery/SIM pull and that didn't change things. Is it possible something may have gone a bit sideways in the ota download? Was thinking a factory reset may help too but not looking forward to wiping my device only to find out this is pretty normal.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
It's possible that the OTA updated the baseband, please look into that as I'm not entirely sure. If that's the case, then it might just be that the new baseband is not suitable for your coverage area in which case I'd suggest you flash a previous release.
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It's possible that the OTA updated the baseband, please look into that as I'm not entirely sure. If that's the case, then it might just be that the new baseband is not suitable for your coverage area in which case I'd suggest you flash a previous release.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll fully admit I'm not as up to snuff on this as others, so please correct me if I'm wrong... but the 4.2.2 OTA did in fact contain new radios from VZW, so shouldn't the baseband have been updated for everyone who took it?
Mine is: I515.10 V.FK01/I515.FK02
As I understand it that breaks down to phone model (I515), HW rev 10, with the new radios being FK01/FK02
Wouldn't every VZW GNex that was on the 4.2.2 OTA have the same baseband; outside of having either HW rev 9 or 10?
Currently I'm locked, stock, not rooted... yeah, probably one of the last Thinking I may unlock and root and try the 4.1.1 radios again. Do I need TWRP or CWM to flash those or can that be done if I keep stock recovery?
As always thanks for all input, much appreciated.
My Gnexus is the same . but despite that it actually performs better oddly enough
Do/can you update roaming (*228) with the Verizon nexus? Or is that just something I could do with my old fascinate (yes, a fascinate and then nexus... I am a glutton for VZW punishment).
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Big ZD said:
Do/can you update roaming (*228) with the Verizon nexus? Or is that just something I could do with my old fascinate (yes, a fascinate and then nexus... I am a glutton for VZW punishment).
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You can, but as far as I know you'll then have what is considered a 3G PRL pushed to your phone, something beginning with "5"... if you just let the PRL update and push on it's own like it's supposed to you'll have a 4g PRL, and will begin with a "1" Both work the same and pick up both 3G/4G signals...not sure what the true difference is honestly. I've been on 15192 for ages now and it's been fine up to this point... Think I'd just as soon keep it. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I Read some where online. That if you take out the Sim card let it for like a minute or so. Slap it back in and there you go. It work for me
ironside2011 said:
I Read some where online. That if you take out the Sim card let it for like a minute or so. Slap it back in and there you go. It work for me
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Yeah, did that... battery pull and sim card pull... left it out for 30 min then back in... no difference. Like I said, it's not that I'm having a huge problem with my data connection, it's just acting... strange... kind of all over the place. Lots of fluxuation, odd readings/bar equivalents, and the whole 0dbm 99asu thing with still being connected. However I've also now started seeing higher than normal "time without signal" percentages... Just flakey. And frustrating... no issues at all until the 4.2.2 ota.
mine is not really a problem but I had way more bars of coverage in a multitude of places (work, home, gym, etc) on the old radios. I havent looked at the dbm's but visually it's different. might be something for someone interested to look into.
btw, im in fresno, ca.
bubarub said:
mine is not really a problem but I had way more bars of coverage in a multitude of places (work, home, gym, etc) on the old radios. I havent looked at the dbm's but visually it's different. might be something for someone interested to look into.
btw, im in fresno, ca.
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Well Google changed how the signal is read visually through the bars to provide a more accurate reading. You should look at dbm
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Having the same experience here (Whidbey Island, Washington) where the 4g signal clings on until it absolutely had to fall back to 3g. New radios may be contributing, but the change in coding to report lower signals may have improved the ability to hang on to a 4g signal. Hand off seems pretty slick too, but that's likely a function of the new radios that came in the OTA.
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ICCID "Unknown" - Cause / Effect?

I've noticed that my ICCID displays as "Unknown" in my status menu. I'm not sure what might be causing it, or what it might be affecting, but after a recent mess trying to fix a similar indication for my PRL, I'm a little concerned that it might be affecting my phone negatively. I recently flashed CM10.1, first the M3 build and then the RC2 build and have noticed overall a reduced signal performance with both compared to previous ROM's. I had thought the issue would be resolved once I'd corrected the PRL issue, but it's still there. So I guess the first question is could CM10.1 be causing the missing ICCID? When I flashed back to a TW based ROM, it showed a number in the ICCID space, so I'm not ruling out that it might just be an effect of CM10.1. This brings me to the next question though, which is what effect could that have on my phone? Is it possible that my low signal strength (in areas where I get full bars on TW ROMs, like my house) is a direct result of the missing ICCID?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
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I've noticed that my ICCID displays as "Unknown" in my status menu. I'm not sure what might be causing it, or what it might be affecting, but after a recent mess trying to fix a similar indication for my PRL, I'm a little concerned that it might be affecting my phone negatively. I recently flashed CM10.1, first the M3 build and then the RC2 build and have noticed overall a reduced signal performance with both compared to previous ROM's. I had thought the issue would be resolved once I'd corrected the PRL issue, but it's still there. So I guess the first question is could CM10.1 be causing the missing ICCID? When I flashed back to a TW based ROM, it showed a number in the ICCID space, so I'm not ruling out that it might just be an effect of CM10.1. This brings me to the next question though, which is what effect could that have on my phone? Is it possible that my low signal strength (in areas where I get full bars on TW ROMs, like my house) is a direct result of the missing ICCID?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
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here is a link talking about this:
http://androidforums.com/metropcs-galaxy-s3-all-things-root/701002-iccid-unknow.html
maybe that helps you?
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here is a link talking about this:
http://androidforums.com/metropcs-galaxy-s3-all-things-root/701002-iccid-unknow.html
maybe that helps you?
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I did find that before I asked the question here. The problem is that I find it a little hard to believe that the ICCID listing as Unknown would have absolutely no effect on the phone, otherwise why would the information exist in the first place. Also, I've noticed a propensity for my signal to be weaker overall compared to TW ROMs where the ICCID is present, so unless that is a fluke of the CM10.1 ROM, I feel like its worth getting more information about.
agreed, have you posted this question in the CM10 thread?
I've read that that value deals with LTE, though like you I am really unable to get a good amount of information about it being set to unknown.
jdelano said:
agreed, have you posted this question in the CM10 thread?
I've read that that value deals with LTE, though like you I am really unable to get a good amount of information about it being set to unknown.
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Not until tonight... We'll see if anything of substance comes out.
Do, er, did you have working LTE? From what I gather, he iccid is hard-coded onto the embedded nano SIM card (yes, in a cdma phone) that Sprint uses to authenticate you for LTE. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICCID#ICCID. If your LTE works, then maybe the ROM just cant read it, but sprint is still reading it fine.
A lot of people have been having issues with buying/switching to a new device, and Sprint's network not properly updating the ICCID in their database, leaving people with no LTE.
I am currently in the process of getting LTE to work with a board swap. I've moved over everything, including AAA/HA keys, even switched back and forth and doing a full new device activation between two good MEIDs and I still can't get LTE. 3g, however, is fine. Sprint not updating the iccid in their database is the only thing I can think of that makes sense. I've cloned the entire board over to the replacement board with a riff box, and still no LTE. The original board still gets it, but not the replacement.
I've done several board swaps in the past, and none of them gave me this much trouble. I just restored and NV backup and they were good to go.
I've been having issues with getting Sprint to update the iccid in their system for my wife's phone. She had a warranty issue and when it came back, no lte. I've called Sprint a dozen times and they try to walk me through the same steps over and over. It gets old. I can't seem to get in touch with someone who can solve my issue.
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