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[Question] Will Moto Atrix features be portable to EVO?

So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.

bmwboyee said:
So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.
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Didn't want you to miss this.

thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.

bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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That's a interesting topic but like the post above said it should be in Q&A and believe it or no there is developers checking those forums, I seen Calk posting in General and he is a developer and some others as well. Back to the topic the would be cool but at the same time I think too much for the evo for now I just wish we can get the new sense or gingerbread eatheir one would be good for the Evo
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Can you rip toyota parts and throw em in a ford? For the most part, NO.
Just as you wouldnt be able to take moto stuff and put it into an HTC phone. Besides the atrix has hardware differences to allow that stuff.

bmwboyee said:
So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.
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Post in Q&A please.

wow is it that hard to post a question in the QandA section lol

Forum Police FTW
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bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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This forum isnt called "development q and a". It's for developing things only.
I think I'm gonna build an evo rom and post it in the Windows phone 7 development forum. I mean what difference does it make, its a development forum right??
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bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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The only attention this post will get here is people telling you that it should be in Q & A. Either way, it doesnt belong here.

bmwboyee said:
So with the Atrix about to be released it has me thinking. Will the features of the "portable laptop" be able to be ported and included in an EVO rom? I mean we have this HDMI out that basically does nothing and this would be PERFECT. So how hard would it be? Would a bounty help push for development? I know I would pay to be able to use my EVO as a portable computer.
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This posting is just wrong on every level:
1) It does NOT belong in the Development Thread.
2) Bounty Threads are 100% against xda rules.
:: facepalm ::

This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
And as an answer to your question, no. It might be possible but I doubt anybody would attempt to do it. Not to mention the Atrix was made with the computer dock in mind.
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LOL! This has to be one of the greatest threads I've read in a while

bmwboyee said:
thanks Jacka$$. Considering it straddles the fence of being part of a rom and more of a technical question, it did not seem fitting to put it in the Q&A. Could this not be a ROM COMPONENT?
Mods feel free to lock or move. It will get no attention in the Q&A when it is really about a rom component.
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You're welcome. I posted that for you because I figured you couldn't differentiate between questions and technical discussion.
Also, explain how this "straddles the fence" of being part of a ROM. I must have missed the part where you started porting this and writing code. My mistake.

No. You wouldn't. As great as software can be it can't make non-existent connections on the PCB board to appear out of no where.

davenukem said:
This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
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Ditto! Agreed...

well maybe to end this the HDMI port on our evo is going to only send data nothing back

davenukem said:
This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
And as an answer to your question, no. It might be possible but I doubt anybody would attempt to do it. Not to mention the Atrix was made with the computer dock in mind.
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There's a white knight in every forum these days.
Oops better answer the question before I get scolded. Answer: NO.
BTW, heed your own advice and STFU and let a mod move this thread, instead of replying and bumping it and getting it more attention, like I am doing.

davenukem said:
This community is starting to sicken me. Stfu and let a mod move it, I'm sure they dont need a ton of tards saying OMG WRONG FORUM. Until then, answer his question or dont post at all. easy.
And as an answer to your question, no. It might be possible but I doubt anybody would attempt to do it. Not to mention the Atrix was made with the computer dock in mind.
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2 things....
1) The funniest part of the thread is that it is titled [Question] lol.
2) Seems like the question has been answered, so lets close this mthfkr!

Igotsanevo4g said:
Can you rip toyota parts and throw em in a ford? For the most part, NO.
Just as you wouldnt be able to take moto stuff and put it into an HTC phone. Besides the atrix has hardware differences to allow that stuff.
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There's room in the car, just throw the tire from the Toyota in the back seat.
But for the most part, no. Things like the launcher or moto apps most likely rely on frameworks only present in a rom built for the Atrix. You can't just rip frameworks from a totally different device, and slap it in another device and expect it to work.

Getting new Evo 4g Tuesday some questions

I'm getting my new Evo 4g tuesday. And I want to root it straight up. What is the best way to do this? Is their something like 1 click root? Also I'm looking for a rom that has all the Sprint Bloatware removed and keeps just the Htc sence gui but a nice clean Rom which one is best?
Thanks!

I wont say use the search function but common now!
Sent from my Evo while i should be working

falcon26 said:
I'm getting my new Evo 4g tuesday. And I want to root it straight up. What is the best way to do this? Is their something like 1 click root? Also I'm looking for a rom that has all the Sprint Bloatware removed and keeps just the Htc sence gui but a nice clean Rom which one is best?
Thanks!
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/me puts on his flame retardant suit and takes cover.
I know you are excited, but there is a Q&A forum for this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=652. I hope I have appeased the 'White Knights'.

Never mind I got my answer in another forum without any smart remarks

falcon26 said:
Never mind I got my answer in another forum without any smart remarks
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Oh? Maybe you posted in the correct place on the other forum.

Well, that's where you should have posted to begin with (Q/A section) and you wouldn't have gotten any smart remarks

falcon26 said:
Never mind I got my answer in another forum without any smart remarks
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Hey bro welcome! There isa one click! Its called unrevoked one click.. and the rom ur looking for is myns warm 2.2 good luck!
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sirmx said:
Oh? Maybe you posted in the correct place on the other forum.
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lol..... funny how people who clearly dont read the rules and clearly make a mistake instead of saying my bad take their lumps and go on..... still have something smart too say... but damn only like 4 comments before he said something I was hoping for more so I could laugh.... Thx anyways guys...
OP - really though lol

Why is this as common as it is?
Can the admins or mods put a warning up when making a thread saying something along the lines of "Make sure you are posting in the correct section or you will be flamed and/or murdered. "

Alright guys. Thread purpose has died. He found his answer elsewhere. No point in continuing to beat him to death.
Thread closed.

[Q] Htc G2 crashed and bricked

HELP.
I was switching between an HTC Sense Rom and Gingerbread roms by using clockwork
Recovery 3.0.5 and selecting install.zip from SD card. Any rom that i try and install
Gets to flashing kernel and then produces error status of 7. I can't get passed the white screen
With the HTC logo.
Any assistance would be so much appreciated.

likingandroid said:
HELP.
I was switching between an HTC Sense Rom and Gingerbread roms by using clockwork
Recovery 3.0.5 and selecting install.zip from SD card. All the roms I try to select gives
Gets to flashing kernel and then produces error status of 7. I can't get passed the white screen
With the HTC logo.
Any assistance would be so much appreciated.
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first off all wrong section, try the search button next time.
for your problem try wiping data/cache, then try and flash a rom, if it docent work, try and re flash your recovery.

I think people need to know what a "Brick" is...

siulmagic said:
first off all wrong section, try the search button next time.
for your problem try wiping data/cache, then try and flash a rom, if it docent work, try and re flash your recovery.
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Sorry, Posted from a Blackberry
I tried both. Can you explain how to re-flash the recovery? Perhaps I am not doing this correctly.

its not briked, he can still acces the recovery. if anything its a semi brick

Do more researching my friend
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lainvalenajr said:
Do more researching my friend
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Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?

TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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Amen!
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TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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well freaking said !
people or dev that just say that ,waste time posting 'wrong section" and should at least provide with a right direction or link instead of being asswholes about it.
being more helpful is part of being in xda or a rom dev, justsaying though.

GunToYoMouth123 said:
well freaking said !
people or dev that just say that ,waste time posting 'wrong section" and should at least provide with a right direction or link instead of being asswholes about it.
being more helpful is part of being in xda or a rom dev, justsaying though.
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Well said is quite the understatement. Has anyone seriously tried doing searches on this site for stuff? Sometimes you do find what you're looking for fairly easily, other times you can't find a damn thing that should be readily available. And if you're in panic mode because you think you just bricked your phone, are you going to search this entire site for an answer that might not show up in your search results? Hell no, you'd probably just create a new thread begging for help.
If you can't contribute and only talk down to people, shut your ass up. No one needs that type of attitude here.

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Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
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I have to disagree.
First and foremost, give a man a fish... teach a man to fish...
The post you quote seems entirely accurate. The OP could obviously use more research as the answers are available. A little time with google alone will usually lead me to what I seek right here on xda.
I feel that the majority of xda contributors are more than willing to help if you show some indication that you have exhausted all your resources in finding your own solution. Though I do understand that moments of panic occur when nothing seems to work but it is always best as well as more satisfying to try and work through it yourself.
This forum does have a Q and A section that would be perfectly suited to handle this thread. The development section really isn't the place. You will get more welcome responses over there as that is its purpose.
Finally, as a member of this forum, I appreciate that of all the posts in this thread, yours (and suilmagic) were the only post that really did anything to help the OP.

TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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I couldn't agree more! Thanks for saying it.
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Most of them just want their super cool post count up. I'm hopefully going to root my DZ tomorrow. Only got it today.
Is everybody like that in this section? Everybody was awesome in the HD2 section.
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ihateusernames said:
I have to disagree.
First and foremost, give a man a fish... teach a man to fish...
The post you quote seems entirely accurate. The OP could obviously use more research as the answers are available. A little time with google alone will usually lead me to what I seek right here on xda.
I feel that the majority of xda contributors are more than willing to help if you show some indication that you have exhausted all your resources in finding your own solution. Though I do understand that moments of panic occur when nothing seems to work but it is always best as well as more satisfying to try and work through it yourself.
This forum does have a Q and A section that would be perfectly suited to handle this thread. The development section really isn't the place. You will get more welcome responses over there as that is its purpose.
Finally, as a member of this forum, I appreciate that of all the posts in this thread, yours (and suilmagic) were the only post that really did anything to help the OP.
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I understand you point and I agree 100% people need to research their problems on a search engine (including the one we have here built in XDA (very handy)) because the majority of time, it will appear right onthe first page if you type your problem correctly, I agree with you. However, some users rather act in a certain way which would describe them as "assholes" if you cant contribute one way or the other why even post at all? if you dont know then theres no need to post unnecessary things. Just dont post and OP will get the picture and look somewhere else.

TrueYears said:
I understand you point and I agree 100% people need to research their problems on a search engine (including the one we have here built in XDA (very handy)) because the majority of time, it will appear right onthe first page if you type your problem correctly, I agree with you. However, some users rather act in a certain way which would describe them as "assholes" if you cant contribute one way or the other why even post at all? if you dont know then theres no need to post unnecessary things. Just dont post and OP will get the picture and look somewhere else.
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I agree with this as well though I hesitate at the name calling as it is also unproductive.
I miss the old days when we were all figuring it out together and questions turned to discussions. With the wealth of knowledge that has been built since then I guess some are not as willing to help others work through the problems. I do believe that if this thread had landed in Q&A it would have, or at least should have, received better response.

Well when I was new to this I thought I broke my brand new first day g2 because I got a boot loop (talk about panic mode xD) well I did my research and got it fixed thanks to me making a back up as soon as I flashed cwm...if anything it inspired me to get back at it...my advice back up your original shipping rom before you think about screwing around with stuff well now my g2 hinge is messed up extreamly loose so I'm returning it to stock :'( and sending it in....did I mention I'm 16? Be smartdont screw up
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ihateusernames said:
I agree with this as well though I hesitate at the name calling as it is also unproductive.
I miss the old days when we were all figuring it out together and questions turned to discussions. With the wealth of knowledge that has been built since then I guess some are not as willing to help others work through the problems. I do believe that if this thread had landed in Q&A it would have, or at least should have, received better response.
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youre right name calling is uncalled for
I apologized if I have offended anyone

Update on HTC G2 Crashed and Bricked
I followed the instructions posted on this site to try and recover my G2 to no avail. After hours with an Android Developer the apparent issue was with the phone's internal memory.
I recieved a replacement and all is good. I've flashed a number of 2.3 roms in addition to roms that have Sense, flashed a kernel or two with no problems.
I hope I don't re create the same condition that started this post. I'm not sure what I did to cause the issue in the fisrt place.
Thanks to all the people out there who tried their best to help.

likingandroid said:
I followed the instructions posted on this site to try and recover my G2 to no avail. After hours with an Android Developer the apparent issue was with the phone's internal memory.
I recieved a replacement and all is good. I've flashed a number of 2.3 roms in addition to roms that have Sense, flashed a kernel or two with no problems.
I hope I don't re create the same condition that started this post. I'm not sure what I did to cause the issue in the fisrt place.
Thanks to all the people out there who tried their best to help.
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Glad you got it fixed.

[Q] Best kernel for cm 7

im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?

I like aeroevans 8bfs kernel. His 8 cfs is good too but idk the difference really. His ics v9 kernel supposedly works with gingerbread but I haven't tried it

The v9 kernel works really well with cm7. I would really recommend using it. Battery life is much improved.

SynysterSilence said:
im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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faehsemc said:
If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.

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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.
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thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?

I fully agree. When you get a new device you are not sure what is old and what are outdated mods and what is the newest thing sometimes. I agree we should search first. But I have had times where I search and google and still no answers. Then when I finally post a question there is usually someone making a refference about another kitty being killed. I came from the Droid X2 which the phone was crap and Motorola sucks A$$ for locking the phones down. However that forum was very friendly and eager to help out noobs. I do understand some of the questions asked are a little crazy and you can tell they did not search. But if you are pissed about someone posting just ignore it and let some other helpful person respond. And if they post in the wrong section the MR Highway will come get them!! He is awesome at that! Keep up the great work Mr Highway. Sorry just my .02 cents. Also as the noobs learn they help out other noobs and hopefully you respected devs can ignore these simple questions. The DX2 was my first phone and I had no idea what I was doing. With the help of the DX2 community I got up to speed and was able to help others. Look at my thanks count. One noob helping another. I asked plenty of questions when I first came on here had some helpful feedback and some smart remarks. Well needless to say I am now comfortable with flashing Roms,Kernel,radio and moving back and forth from AOSP,Sense, and ICS and I found all the fixes and work around ICS by reading the threads and not asking questions here. Just some food for thought.

SynysterSilence said:
thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?
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Again, our phone lacks a large variety of kernels, however the few we have are solid (probably the reason we dont have 2000 of them xD)
The only kernel i've really used for sense is drellisdee's #21 kernel, it comes with all the usual cpu governors and is included in a lot of ext4 sense roms. It works on sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 in my experience as well.
Hopefully that was of some help :s

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im sure this has been posted a thousand fold
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This is the Problem I have right here.. so he knows it was most likely posted over and over and just said f it I don't want to look.
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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions.
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Yes, he did post this in the right section if it was just kernel and not ROM specific with CM7.2 why just question for AOSP or sense? And I wasn't rude in my response to him as far as him posting a question. I am irritated knowing that we have just recently had a lot of problems in this thread with people just simply asking questions they could've searched for and reposting the same thing 8,000,000 times (su, killall drmserver) ya that is familiar
Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison..
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Thank god our device doesn't have many different ones to look into. Its not like its hard again to search kernel and see what shows up.
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its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers
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Its lack of wanting to put in any time with search and asking the same exact questions over and over that makes DEV's leave.
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There were plenty of more posts to quote but I think I proved my point.
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Im locking this, before it goes south, an in my eyes, that's what it's looking like.

Unofficial [ICS 4.0.3] D-Sense 4.0 general thread

Hey, since official thread was closed based on Shaky's request, I have opened new, unofficial one, so that there is no need to spam development threads where it does not belong to. There was starting some talk about Kernel 3.0, maybe some experienced ones can enlight this topic.
No offensive or dirty words, please.

To much smoke with no fire...
Not really sure that there will be something from it.
But let's wait and see.

Dafuq? Two threads plus development not enough?

all Shaky's threads are locked so not enough...

personaly i would say get the message... 3 threads locked. message recieved
Sent from my HTC Desire

come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed, but it does not mean community cannot talk about it...

zakka1da said:
come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed...
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now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
Sent from my HTC Desire

LOL I clearly remember when Shaky appeared on the Desire forums before the device was bought, there was this guy from DHD forum who commented " Oh shaky you're now here! After shaking a lot and not baking anything in the DHD" .. hahaha.. I feel really sorry for all of you who kept saying"oh shaky plz do sense 4 for us and you're god and what not!" All rubbish..
What I find hard to understand that why would a dev never talk about what's working and what's not behind the scenes ??? Not even in dev forum? People stopped writing in dev as per his request.. what happened at the end ???
All bull****! I'm not saying that he can't do something, only he knows better, but the way people have been treated in his forums are disgusting.. it never happened in threads in the likes of leedroid or coolexe etc.. everyone was given a chance to express and be heard..
I feel these new so called dev are "noobs" than normal users the people are maintaining their threds
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jmcclue said:
now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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yes, I want them to talk about it, and omg, they were locked because Shaky wanted it, not moderators (except of some warnings in development thread). If it was because he did not want to read about it or any other reason, it does not matter, I just don't want this topic to die (when still some hope is alive, maybe).
Back to topic, in Droid Incredible forum I have read that PureMotive had some talk with Shaky and sbryan like 4 days ago and that guy sbryan is most probably looking into that audio issue... we will see

Conclusion : leave shaky alone, he's working hard for us and there is no need to make him under pression.
About this topic, mmmh ... too words, not enough acts ?

To me this thread looks like disrespect to shaky coz he closed two of them already clearly for a reason.
And now again will be the same everybody taking and nobody can actually provide even a simple logcat, you know how many tutorials with step by step explanations have been posted on xda lately for everything: porting ics, compiling kernel, compiling roms from source, kernel optimizations, modding,etc do why non of the talkatives take some time off their life and start working on porting sense 4 and/or kernel 3.0? Seriously this thread would be so much productive rather than waiting and pushing one person to the edge?m?
Does it make sense?
If I had time to waste for ungrateful users I'd work on this myself- however real life and work for now are more important to me.but I bet if any of you read the tutorials and got to know insides of android you could port it yourself. Even DK and Sandvold and Sebastian started like this by experimenting.
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Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447

When shaky was soliciting donations to buy his Desire you just had to check his history here at XDA to realize he is a prima donna that will probably let you down (if you chipped in for his phone). As the saying goes...he's all hat but no cattle. So I stayed well away.
Now, when laidbacknikez was doing the same (getting donations to buy a new Desire for developing) I did donate to him. He not only sent out a personal thank you note, he has delivered a fantastic ROM in spades...and I would bet he will give us Jellybean a well.
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MrUrgit said:
Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447
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thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])

zakka1da said:
thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])
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everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.

Lothaen said:
everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.
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i agree, i onced used aurora rom but never really checked the thread after that. so yeah it was a good find and im glad that sense 4 is being worked on BUT now there is gona be 200+ atleast more people who are gona read this thread and click the link and its gona eventually lead to useless posts and comments just like shakys threads. i could be and hope im wrong but thats what i think.
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One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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nlooooo said:
One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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jmcclue said:
i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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Let it go man. If we can't make people stop creating threads to discuss what is the best rom of them all, we can't stop this thread too. :silly: