[Q] Why am I not getting ICS updates? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I'm still running ICS 4.0. My phone is on mobilicity in Canada and I have yet to receive a single update.
When i contacted mobilicity they said, contact samsung, when i called samsung they said call google.
Other than telling me to do it all myself, which i could do, but it's now to the point i want to know "why am I not receiving updates and is anyone else having these issues?"

You mean 4.0.1 right? 4.0 never released.
Unless your phone is a yakju software build, updates will be slower for you.

my appoligies you are correct 4.0.1. Any reason I wouldn't be getting updates?

I'm still on 4.0.1 as well. It can take a few days for updates to roll out to everyone...(and then sometimes they just don't..See TF101)
I'm giving it another day, then I'm flashing a 4.0.3 rom, and I won't look back.

why do 4.0.3 , is 4.0.4 not leaked?

slight22 said:
why do 4.0.3 , is 4.0.4 not leaked?
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Leaked for the CDMA version. A couple of ports in the GSM dev section however.
No code for it though.

slight22 said:
why do 4.0.3 , is 4.0.4 not leaked?
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4.0.3 is just out in source, no OTA. 4.0.4 was a leak for the CDMA version. Nothing more official than that.

Smeelious said:
I'm still on 4.0.1 as well. It can take a few days for updates to roll out to everyone...(and then sometimes they just don't..See TF101)
I'm giving it another day, then I'm flashing a 4.0.3 rom, and I won't look back.
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It might take even longer than a day as people who aren't on yakju builds (GSM) are at the mercy of the carrier or Samsung updating the Android version.

Unlawful said:
It might take even longer than a day as people who aren't on yakju builds (GSM) are at the mercy of the carrier or Samsung updating the Android version.
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Yeah, our 4.0.2 update (Canada yakjuux) was released last week. Still don't have it. Samsung is apparently "working on it"
Maybe I'll hunt around for a cupcake build that'll work on the GN. That could be fun.

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OTA update for yakjuxw devices rolling out now

I went to check my email on my GSM Galaxy Nexus today and got a notification that there's *finally* an update available. This is the first since I've owned the device (two months now?). I wanted to track and see where it's coming from. I want to see if I can get the IP and tell whether the update is from Google's server or Samsung's on the yakjuxw build. But I have no idea how to do this. Anyone with experience willing to help me out? I'll post the results here, as well. Should bring some clarity to the different builds.
I won't be able to reply or check back until after work later today, but really want to find out before applying the update. Thanks.
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First of all, you have to install it and see if the build number has changed in order to confirm that the update is a system update and not something else.
Have you updated it yet? Did it update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3?
It says in your signature that you still have ITL41D, so it might just be the update to ITL41F that jsut fixes the volume bug.
Got the first update!
Hi, first, let me tell you that english is not my main language.
Got the first update today, installed it. I am still on 4.0.1, but there were some changes. I moved from a GN yakjuxw I9250XWKK5_ITL41D to ITL41F.I9250XWKK9.
Two questions:
1- Do you know what's changed?
2- I do not have the improve facial recognition feature. Is it only to the 4.0.2 update?
Tiga Jr.
tigajr said:
Hi, first, let me tell you that english is not my main language.
Got the first update today, installed it. I am still on 4.0.1, but there were some changes. I moved from a GN yakjuxw I9250XWKK5_ITL41D to ITL41F.I9250XWKK9.
Two questions:
1- Do you know what's changed?
2- I do not have the improve facial recognition feature. Is it only to the 4.0.2 update?
Tiga Jr.
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Your update was for the volume control problem.
You probably need to factory reset your phone to get face unlock to show.
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Hi, thank you for the answer. I already have the face unlock, but not the "improve face matching". What I want to know is if this feature is only for the 4.0.2 update.
I was investigating and found out that the 4.0.2 was pulled from the Google binaries (can not put links yet, because I am new here). There, we can find only two versions: 4.0.1 and 4.0.3.
Maybe, our next update we'll be the 4.0.3. Hope It will be the one that will put everybody in the same boat.
Tiga Jr.
obs. english is not my main language
kangxi said:
You probably need to factory reset your phone to get face unlock to show.
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iconicpaul said:
First of all, you have to install it and see if the build number has changed in order to confirm that the update is a system update and not something else.
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Right, but I don't care so much about what the update is. I want to know where it's coming from.
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I recieved the update this morning as well and it said it was coming from Samsung.
i also got the update this morning. phone is still 4.0.1 and build number is now ITL41F.xxxxxxxxxx
i wonder why my phone is at the end of the queue :-(
and why the f### is my wife's Nexus S running 4.0.3 and my GNex 4.0.1 ?!?!?!?!?!?
mvorbrodt said:
i wonder why my phone is at the end of the queue :-(
and why the f### is my wife's Nexus S running 4.0.3 and my GNex 4.0.1 ?!?!?!?!?!?
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And I wonder why people don't stop crying and start enjoying their phone
If you want the latest update just install the latest image from http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
It's amazing how a 0.01 update can confuse people...
Lemim0uth said:
And I wonder why people don't stop crying and start enjoying their phone
If you want the latest update just install the latest image from http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
It's amazing how a 0.01 update can confuse people...
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and I wonder why, after so many years of mod banning, there are still trolls like you on the forums
Welcome to the club, I was wondering the same thing about you
Seriously, why don't you install the latest factory image from http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html and stop whining ?
I think XDA is NOT the right place to cry on why you don't get the xx.yy.zz update
2 months? The phone has been out 5 weeks.
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a lot of us that bought the unlocked gnexus got the "yakjuxw" device not the "yakju" device so we CAN'T update!!
I also got a notice for update and clicked update ... still on 4.0.1 but didn't see if it was from samsung or google!
skarenboo said:
a lot of us that bought the unlocked gnexus got the "yakjuxw" device not the "yakju" device so we CAN'T update!!
I also got a notice for update and clicked update ... still on 4.0.1 but didn't see if it was from samsung or google!
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You can update no matter what. Just because you have a yakjuxw doesn't mean you'll be stuck on 4.0.1 forever. This has been blown way out of proportion it is stupid.
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Yes, I know i will get an udpate... just MUCH SLOWER since SAMSUNG is known for releasing their updates uber slow!!
isn't one of the biggest perks owning a nexus = FAST UPDATES, FIRST TO UPDATE, NO BLOATWARE... so owning a SAMSUNG update device kinda defeat the purpose... we want GOOGLE to update us
Guys, if you are getting the OTA updates for yakjuxw, please post the update URL if you don't mind, so that others on yakjuxw who have yet to receive it, can flash it. Thanks.
skarenboo said:
Yes, I know i will get an udpate... just MUCH SLOWER since SAMSUNG is known for releasing their updates uber slow!!
isn't one of the biggest perks owning a nexus = FAST UPDATES, FIRST TO UPDATE, NO BLOATWARE... so owning a SAMSUNG update device kinda defeat the purpose... we want GOOGLE to update us
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You're just not getting it, do you ? All updates come from Google, and even mysid for Verizon CDMA still gets tested by Verizon before rollout. The same applies to yakju and yakjuxw, etc. They are tested by Samsung/carriers, then updated. Does it really matter if you get the update 1 week later than other versions of the phone ? It's not like you're waiting 2 months. Sheesh....
lambda30 said:
You're just not getting it, do you ? All updates come from Google, and even mysid for Verizon CDMA still gets tested by Verizon before rollout. The same applies to yakju and yakjuxw, etc. They are tested by Samsung/carriers, then updated. Does it really matter if you get the update 1 week later than other versions of the phone ? It's not like you're waiting 2 months. Sheesh....
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I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. Google is only handling the builds done by google (yakju, and mysid), samsung seems to be handling all the regional builds. Every variant of yakju__ is compiled by samsung.
And yeah, it's been forever since the volume bug was discovered. And the update should have gone out a lot sooner then it has for the variant builds.
edit: I stand corrected

[Q] Galaxy Nexus Updates for Canada?

Hi XDA,
I'm new to Android (first Android phone), and have never done any unlocking/rooting/etc. I've been working in iOS-land for 4 years, but wanted to try something new and refreshing.
I'm trying to figure out why my TELUS GSM Galaxy Nexus is stuck on 4.0.1? If my searching/reading is correct, it sounds as though the factory build they put on isn't eligible (yet) for the update, so you have to put on a different ROM entirely? (the yaku...something).
I thought the updates were pushed out by Google, not the carrier (e.g. TELUS/Rogers/Fido/etc). Why is everyone else running 4.0.2 or later (I know CDMA is even farther ahead) and I'm stuck at 4.0.1? And if CDMA is all the way up at 4.0.4, why isn't GSM? Wouldn't the people implementing bug fixes, etc, be updating for both platforms simultaneously?
I was oping factory updates would come quicker? I never wrecked any of my iOS devices (came pretty close, but eventually mastered DFU mode, pwning, and worst case scenario, rolling back to stock iOS 4 or 5). If I brick my Nexus though, I'm going to be in a world of hurt.
jasphair said:
Hi XDA,
I'm new to Android (first Android phone), and have never done any unlocking/rooting/etc. I've been working in iOS-land for 4 years, but wanted to try something new and refreshing.
I'm trying to figure out why my TELUS GSM Galaxy Nexus is stuck on 4.0.1? If my searching/reading is correct, it sounds as though the factory build they put on isn't eligible (yet) for the update, so you have to put on a different ROM entirely? (the yaku...something).
I thought the updates were pushed out by Google, not the carrier (e.g. TELUS/Rogers/Fido/etc). Why is everyone else running 4.0.2 or later (I know CDMA is even farther ahead) and I'm stuck at 4.0.1? And if CDMA is all the way up at 4.0.4, why isn't GSM? Wouldn't the people implementing bug fixes, etc, be updating for both platforms simultaneously?
I was oping factory updates would come quicker? I never wrecked any of my iOS devices (came pretty close, but eventually mastered DFU mode, pwning, and worst case scenario, rolling back to stock iOS 4 or 5). If I brick my Nexus though, I'm going to be in a world of hurt.
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Id like to know this too. Im on Rogers and have the Rogers version of the GNEX and it too came with v4.0.1
I have since rooted, etc and flashed a custom 4.0.3 ROM (see signature for info) but I seem to be having some network issues (bug in 4.0.3 custom ROMS) which may FORCE me to go back to stock and if I do then Id definitely like to know WHY we have not received any Official updates to our devices as of yet...
Your updates are coming from google not your carriers. However Samsung is in charge of ensuring the update works in certain regions hence the delay.
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yiannisthegreek said:
Id like to know this too. Im on Rogers and have the Rogers version of the GNEX and it too came with v4.0.1
I have since rooted, etc and flashed a custom 4.0.3 ROM (see signature for info) but I seem to be having some network issues (bug in 4.0.3 custom ROMS) which may FORCE me to go back to stock and if I do then Id definitely like to know WHY we have not received any Official updates to our devices as of yet...
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Google hates Canada.
For what it's worth when I got this phone from Virgin Mobile just before Xmas it was yakjuyx or whatever and 4.0.1. Minutes after turning it on it upgraded OTA to 4.0.2 so they are pushing updates in Canada, even 'Samsung controlled' builds.
That said it's not a concern after installing a custom yakju ROM already at 4.0.3. So either you wait patiently for OTAs that may or may not come or take control of your own device ;-). Remember, it can all be put back where it was!
rAy
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ray2jerry said:
For what it's worth when I got this phone from Virgin Mobile just before Xmas it was yakjuyx or whatever and 4.0.1. Minutes after turning it on it upgraded OTA to 4.0.2 so they are pushing updates in Canada, even 'Samsung controlled' builds.
That said it's not a concern after installing a custom yakju ROM already at 4.0.3. So either you wait patiently for OTAs that may or may not come or take control of your own device ;-). Remember, it can all be put back where it was!
rAy
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Thanks for the info but as I mentioned, I am already running a Custom 4.0.3 ROM but I seem to be having signal drop issues with it so I may have to flash something else to fix that as I have read that these signal drop issues are 4.0.3 AOSP ROM related...
ray2jerry said:
For what it's worth when I got this phone from Virgin Mobile just before Xmas it was yakjuyx or whatever and 4.0.1. Minutes after turning it on it upgraded OTA to 4.0.2 so they are pushing updates in Canada, even 'Samsung controlled' builds.
That said it's not a concern after installing a custom yakju ROM already at 4.0.3. So either you wait patiently for OTAs that may or may not come or take control of your own device ;-). Remember, it can all be put back where it was!
rAy
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That can't be right. The only OTA update that went out for yakjuux was the volume fix update. I've never heard of anyone getting 4.0.2 that had yakjuux. The first batch of phones that came out in December received that volume update but it stayed 4.0.1. Any phones bought recently already came with the volume update applied.

[Q] OTA Updates

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Nexus and I'm wondering how these OTA updates work. I would be getting my phone from Sasktel which my understanding are normally the same as Bell.
Does Google push all OTA updates or does Samsung?
Thanks.
If you have a "yakju" or "takju" device, then you get updates from Google
If you have a "yakju**" model, usually regional-specific ones such as those from carriers, you get updates from Samsung.
Samsung updates are slower. You can flash any i9250 GSM model to yakju/takju very simply and receive OTAs from Google from that point forward.
This has been discussed at least ~1,000,000 times in the last 8 months since this device came out.
You're on XDA. Why are you even asking this? We had fully functioning jelly bean ROMs the day of the IO for christ's sake.
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You're on XDA. Why are you even asking this? We had fully functioning jelly bean ROMs the day of the IO for christ's sake.
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Some people just want OTAs and I think you need to be able to respect that.

Anyone get the 4.1.1 OTA update in the UK?

Just wondering if anyone got it yet using stock unlocked, unrooted phones?
I am on GiffGaff and nothing yet ...
"yet"?
get prepared to wait for a couple of weeks
ota rollout is gradually...need some weeks to complete worldwide
I confuse why it isn't like windows update that every one update sp at once
I expect the GSM release to be rapid as I'm not aware of any major differences between countries and there is no operator involvement. Reverted from the Modaco 4.1 rom to the 4.0.4 factory image last night in preparation. Miss Jelly Bean already! Expecting the ota to drop before the weekend is out
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I expect the GSM release to be rapid as I'm not aware of any major differences between countries and there is no operator involvement. Reverted from the Modaco 4.1 rom to the 4.0.4 factory image last night in preparation. Miss Jelly Bean already! Expecting the ota to drop before the weekend is out
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Lets hope so
Nothing for me yet ...
My ICS update took weeks to get to me.
I shall go back to stock from this JB ROM when I see the Yakju OTA kicking about in the UK
Yep got 4.1.1 ota in the UK few hours ago!
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Lets hope so
Nothing for me yet ...
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Got it! Force stop and clear data for Google Services Framework, then check for updates ;-)
4.1.1 is definitely alot smoother. Bit annoyed that that theyve removed the punctuation marks from above the keyboard as they were very quick to access! Also still no twitter or Facebook contact sync?
I got the update on 12/7 on yakju in the UK. I was just using my phone an had a small message asking me to update. It'll come eventually and is worth the wait. :thumbup:
Rik.
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Yep got the update to 4.1.1. Google now/voice search is a bit pants compared to the YouTube vids, hardy ever speaks the results just shows you, and why the robot voice???

[Q] When JB ota? IMM76k Gsm model

title says it all, when does imm76k gsm model get the jb ota? i know you dunno the day but you know do i have to wait days weeks or months?
Go to Google Maps>settings>about. what does it say under "Device" ?
Android-samsung-maguro Galaxy Nexus
Samsung yakjuxw
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Based on past history probably months. Or you can switch to yakju/takju.
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You won't get it for a while.
Rip the bandaid off (so to speak), and switch to yakju or takju, and get updates from Google from here on out. Stop waiting for Samsung yakju** updates.
I had yakjuxw originally on my Nexus (4.0.1 and then updated it to 4.0.2) I didn't want to wait 4.0.4 update and at then i flashed Jelly Bean "takju" and day or few days later yakjuxw got IMM76K update for ICL53F.. for my Galaxy Nexus the "takju" builds are much better than "yakju" build so if you want jelly bean then flash jb-takju.zip via CWM, then LC03 bootloader via fastboot and XXLF1 radio via fastboot and then wait OTA update and then you can update it to 4.1.1 "takju" (it's much better than yakjuxw/yakju builds)
So I recommend the "takju" Jelly Bean because it takes maybe half year to get Jelly Bean update to yakjuxw if yakjuxw build even gets the JB update..
Not that I mind flashing other builds or rooting personally, I did it a long time ago, but it seems like Google/Samsung don't really care about variants like the yakjuxw (the model we get in Scandinavia). These models have been left in a grey area with very slow updates, if any at all. And with little or no info about what level of support to expect. It seems the OTA update process has been as slow as on UI branded phones.
This simply does not live up to what people expect from the Nexus brand and I've seen a lot of disappointed users here in Denmark. Many people I know of, bought the GNex to get stock Google UI and fast updates without having to modify anything.
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Not that I mind flashing other builds or rooting personally, I did it a long time ago, but it seems like Google/Samsung don't really care about variants like the yakjuxw (the model we get in Scandinavia). These models have been left in a grey area with very slow updates, if any at all. And with little or no info about what support to expect. It seems the official update process has been as slow as on ui branded phones. This simply does not live up to the Nexus brand and I've seen a lot of disappointed users here in Denmark. Many people I know of, bought the GNex to get stock Google UI and fast updates without having to modify anything.
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Yes its quite unfortunate and you gotta hope that Google will work to make every GSM nexus on the same build for the next time around.
Fortunately there's a quick fix for this that will put your phone on the right update path and let you get OTAs ASAP from now on. Doesn't require any hacking or unofficial methods. Just flash to stock takju and let it go from there. Google provides the method and the files to do it. Sucks that it comes down to that, but at least there is a way to do it.
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Yes its quite unfortunate and you gotta hope that Google will work to make every GSM nexus on the same build for the next time around.
Fortunately there's a quick fix for this that will put your phone on the right update path and let you get OTAs ASAP from now on. Doesn't require any hacking or unofficial methods. Just flash to stock takju and let it go from there. Google provides the method and the files to do it. Sucks that it comes down to that, but at least there is a way to do it.
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I agree, and it's not that I mind doing it personally. I unlock and root my Nexus devices anyway, as I want to enjoy the full potential. But I see a lot of users who didn't expect having to change things at all on a Nexus device. Less tech savy people, people who are worried about breaking stuff, the warranty etc. It seems these people (e.g. European buyers) have been left with little support from Google and no support from Samsung.
Extremely disappointing to read the above posts. I bought my Nexus just a couple of days ago from Telenor Norway solely to get the OTA update to Jelly Bean, and find I have a 'Scandinavian version' which may not be updated for months.. hells bells!
Beats head against wall
Thanks for the info though guys
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Cintra2 said:
Extremely disappointing to read the above posts. I bought my Nexus just a couple of days ago from Telenor Norway solely to get the OTA update to Jelly Bean, and find I have a 'Scandinavian version' which may not be updated for months.. hells bells!
Beats head against wall
Thanks for the info though guys
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It may not be months. It could be tomorrow. No one knows. We only know it doesn't get the fast OTA's like the US models, yakju, takju...
AFAIK 4.04 isn't even out for yakjuxw yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It's been weeks since Google released it for yakju.
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It may not be months. It could be tomorrow. No one knows. We only know it doesn't get the fast OTA's like the US models, yakju, takju...
AFAIK 4.04 isn't even out for yakjuxw yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It's been weeks since Google released it for yakju.
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Thanks volapyk, I hope you are right
Ref. 4.0.4, my Nexus was updated (twice) almost before I had finished installing apps on the phone, so I do have 4.0.4 at least..
Mvh
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Thanks volapyk, I hope you are right
Ref. 4.0.4, my Nexus was updated (twice) almost before I had finished installing apps on the phone, so I do have 4.0.4 at least..
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Thanks, great to know. I'm rooted, takju so I can't follow the progress of the yakjuxw OTA updates myself.
If you get the JB update on yakjuxw then don't forget to let us know.
Hello I bought today a brand new Nexus: it has ICS 4.0.4 yakju IMM76K firmware but unfortunately, no way to update to JB!! :crying:
It always says it 4.0.4 is up to date.
indago said:
Hello I bought today a brand new Nexus: it has ICS 4.0.4 yakju IMM76K firmware but unfortunately, no way to update to JB!! :crying:
It always says it 4.0.4 is up to date.
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I believe there's a trick you can try. It involves clearing the cache of a Google framework file under settings/apps or something like that. It's been posted a lot, try searching for it.
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It may not be months. It could be tomorrow. No one knows. We only know it doesn't get the fast OTA's like the US models, yakju, takju...
AFAIK 4.04 isn't even out for yakjuxw yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It's been weeks since Google released it for yakju.
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Hey volapyk.
Im a danish user as well and i just installed yakju yesterday even though i have waited soo long for the 4.1 OTA update. So far i havnt encountered any problems.
Frankly i was pissed when i heard that Samsung was in charge of the OTA on my phone. I almost returned the phone back to the dealer.
But im now running yakju and everything is very simple and easy to install. Look under Galaxy Nexus Q&A there is a simple guide to flash.
Cheers
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volapyk said:
I believe there's a trick you can try. It involves clearing the cache of a Google framework file under settings/apps or something like that. It's been posted a lot, try searching for it.
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This trick didnt work for me - on yakjuxw :-/
Hi, I had the same issue, I tried forcing the update by clearing the Google Services Framework many times and this never worked for me. I came across this thread and flashed my phone to Yakju then I received the JB update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
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volapyk said:
I believe there's a trick you can try. It involves clearing the cache of a Google framework file under settings/apps or something like that. It's been posted a lot, try searching for it.
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Yes I read of this trick and tried several times already but no way ;-(
Googling around, I seems that, although pure yakju, ALL IMM76K devices are NOT being updated (while IMM76I are).
volapyk said:
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It may not be months. It could be tomorrow. No one knows. We only know it doesn't get the fast OTA's like the US models, yakju, takju...
AFAIK 4.04 isn't even out for yakjuxw yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It's been weeks since Google released it for yakju.
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Is that just the OTA update?
Was looking at factory images today and only JB is for the Nexus7
Where did you get your phone in Norway?
Cintra2 said:
Extremely disappointing to read the above posts. I bought my Nexus just a couple of days ago from Telenor Norway solely to get the OTA update to Jelly Bean, and find I have a 'Scandinavian version' which may not be updated for months.. hells bells!
Beats head against wall
Thanks for the info though guys
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I can't find the Nexus Galaxy anywhere on the Telenor Web Site. I'm in Stavanger. Any ideas where I might find one?

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