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I recently acquired an HTC Vision from overseas. Since the change AT&T's website is giving me the option to add an unlimited data plan for non-smartphones for $10 (I don't currently have any data plan because my prior smartphone was grandfathered into an excemption). I know that the reason they are offering the cheap plan is because they don't sell the phone so they can't detect the model I'm using from the IMEI - but...
* does anyone have experience doing this?
* Do they ever catch you and force you to change?
* Is there an unwritten cap to the unlimited non-smartphone data plan that I should be mindful of not exceeding or an amount that you think would raise flags?
* Is there anything I can do to make myself more under the radar - I was thinking maybe changing my device on the AT&T website to a non-smartphone made by another manufacturer so my old smart phone is no longer listed?
Well first off, make sure that the Desire Z you have has the proper frequencies for AT&T.
As far as running the unlimited featurephone data plan, I'm not sure. They might be able to not tell what type of phone you're using, but they will be able to tell that it isn't one of their list of featurephones the plans work for. I think this is the biggest hurdle, they will more than likely find out that you're using a phone that isn't an AT&T featurephone and kick you off of it.
As far as data usage goes, I'm assuming it will throw up a flag when your first month you use 4gb-5gb of data on your "featurephone" that isn't even supposed to have a full browser lol.
If this was that easy to do, don't you think there would be more people getting a free featurephone with a $10 unlimited data plan and buying their phones unsubsidized? lol. Dunno just never heard of anyone doing this before.
I don't get 3G but the phone works fine on the EDGE network. Since it isn't a phone from the US I'm thinking that it might be able to escape detection a lot easier than say, a phone from T-Mobile.
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I don't get 3G but the phone works fine on the EDGE network. Since it isn't a phone from the US I'm thinking that it might be able to escape detection a lot easier than say, a phone from T-Mobile.
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If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?
The real question is, is there a specific reason why you're using AT&T? If you're just going to be using the phone on EDGE with AT&T, you might as well just pay for a data plan on T-mobile and get 3G/4G... maybe just my personal opinion but I have no idea why someone would choose to pay for a smartphone and use it on the EDGE network. I wanna gouge my eyes out when I'm on EDGE lol.
martonikaj said:
If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?
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Right now I'm not paying for a data plan. However, if I did pay for one, I'd only be using it to do things like check my e-mail, use voice dial, or play ad-supported games - nothing that would be crippled by the slower data transfer. Basically stuff that is worth $10/month to me but not $30.
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Right now I'm not paying for a data plan. However, if I did pay for one, I'd only be using it to do things like check my e-mail, use voice dial, or play ad-supported games - nothing that would be crippled by the slower data transfer. Basically stuff that is worth $10/month to me but not $30.
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I see... But what I'm saying is why would you pay for an AT&T plan, are you somehow obligated to stay there? If you're bringing your own phone to T-mobile, their no contract plans are as low as $59.99/mo. Maybe AT&T has good service in your area, I'm not sure. But if you have no reason to stay on AT&T and service is comparable on T-mobile, I doubt you'll be paying more for 3G service on T-mo than you would for only 2G on AT&T.
T-mobile no contract (youre bringing your own phone) = $59.99 for 500min, unlim texts, and "unlimited" data.
AT&T phone plans = $39.99 450minutes, + $20 unlim texts + $10 for "featurephone data" = $69.99 and that doesn't get you 3G.
Not trying to convert, just trying to make sense of your situation.
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I see... But what I'm saying is why would you pay for an AT&T plan, are you somehow obligated to stay there?
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I am obligated to stay with AT&T for various reasons. :-\
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I am obligated to stay with AT&T for various reasons. :-\
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Well that would explain a lot. As far as your original plan goes, I'm not sure how it works. They have to identify between their featurephones and smartphones somehow, and that means they may easily be able to identify that you're using a smartphone. Not sure.
From my understanding when i was about to try this smartphones have there own data set....and regular unlimited browsing is something else. But i can be wrong. Get back to me about this, very interested to see if this works.
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This does work.
I am using an unbranded/unlocked Desire Z on ATT with the $10/month basic data plan. Years ago, I purchased a 'dumb phone' from them and have had this data plan on my account since then.
I have used this data plan with a Touch Pro, Blackberry Bold and Nokia E71, all without any problems. All of them were ATT branded and they could see the device I was using. Only thing that didn't work was the Blackberry branded data apps.
With a phone that is not from ATT they cannot tell what device you are using. I've had the DZ since November and haven't heard anything from there. My data usage each month has ranged from 400-700 MB. Not sure what the cap is, but I don't tether or anything and use wifi when I'm at home as well.
This of course is not in line with their 'smartphone policy' so don't walk into a store and expect them to do this for you. You'll have to do it online... Not sure how closely they watch new additions on the basic plans but I would give it a shot and see if they let you keep going... My guess is that unless you're sucking up data at 2-3GB a month, it won't be a problem...
Let me know how it goes for you!
I have an Australian HTC Desire as my personal line, and I pay the $10 data. AT&T employee line plans suck pretty bad...
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If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?
The real question is, is there a specific reason why you're using AT&T? If you're just going to be using the phone on EDGE with AT&T, you might as well just pay for a data plan on T-mobile and get 3G/4G... maybe just my personal opinion but I have no idea why someone would choose to pay for a smartphone and use it on the EDGE network. I wanna gouge my eyes out when I'm on EDGE lol.
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Iirc you need data for mms
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You are good to go.
I used a G2 on AT&T for a few months before switching to T-Mobile. I do not remember how much data I used but I know that AT&T had no clue what I was doing/using. I was on the $15 unlimited messaging data plan though, not sure about the $10 one. As long as the phone is not branded or specifically made for AT&T bands (like the AT&T N1) they have no clue what you have, that is the main reason I only use GSM networks.
Protip: You can suspend your line if you are on a family plan and switch to T-mobile which is what I am currently doing until my wife's iPhone contract runs out. They will still charge you $10/month though. $25 for 2GB is WAY overpriced.
For those of you who were interested in hearing if this worked: I've been on the data plan for about two weeks and have used about 200mb thus far. So far, so good. The EDGE network speeds can be a little slow but it is better than nothing.
I'm curious if I'll be detected now that AT&T has acquired T-Mobile, since the G2 is in T-Mobile's lineup, which is based on the HTC Vision just like the Desire Z that I am using.
my question is...
Why cant you use 3g if you have a DZ from overseas? the G2 is the phone with the weird 3g bands. the overseas phone should work like a charm on att.
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For those of you who were interested in hearing if this worked: I've been on the data plan for about two weeks and have used about 200mb thus far. So far, so good. The EDGE network speeds can be a little slow but it is better than nothing.
I'm curious if I'll be detected now that AT&T has acquired T-Mobile, since the G2 is in T-Mobile's lineup, which is based on the HTC Vision just like the Desire Z that I am using.
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Why cant you use 3g if you have a DZ from overseas? the G2 is the phone with the weird 3g bands. the overseas phone should work like a charm on att.
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Unfortunately it does not have the 3G bands that ATT uses.
[email protected] 30/month for data I'm at 15 or 20 for unlimited data and texts with tmobile
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Lots of people do this. I have a Nokia E71 currently on this plan (and a Desire Z on the way). My only concern is with AT&T's new crackdown on tethering.
Can someone tell me if ATT can make the difference between the type of data transfer someone uses (like web browsing vs Market android download or google syncing)?
Yes they can catch you. Yes they can tell the differance between mms and web browsing....yes they can see every site and bit of information, every call made, every text sent, every minute of every day..... the questions is do they care? The simple answer is no. I have used my own phones on att for 8+ years. I not even sure if its agaisnt any policy they have anyway? Anyway if they ever did "catch" you the worst they would do is say stop that, pay more, or cancel your account. Then maybe you will be free to join tmo lol.
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Hello
as far as I know this phone can handle the att 3g/4g frequencies if unlocked ..
Does your straigttalk SIM(the att compatabile one) or true att SIM work well with it if anybody is using them ?
What about data speeds ?
Thanks
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Thanks again
me.. me .. i do.. i do lol
Hello. I have great news for anyone that wants to use the Tmobile GalaxySII with a better prepaid service.
I bought the T989 new and then bought a Tmobile Sim card for about $15 from StraightTalk.com
I put the new sim in and changed the APN to StraightTalk apn. It works fabulous.
I get full 4g speeds all day 24/7 and the best thing is I get no throttle.
Tmobile turned me on with there prices but I didnt notice that they throttle there bandwidth to a stupid slow 2g speed after a certain bandwidth usage.
WHY would any company throttle the internet speed with the purpose to have a smart phone is fast internet? The speed went from 4g to 2g. Not 3g. We are talking 56k modem speed. This pissed me off so bad, I went with StraightTalk just 2 weeks after I activated the T989 with Tbobile using there prepaid. Well, not only is Tmobile prepaid $5 more than the StraightTalk service, But the Tmobile service, as I said is very inferior to StraightTalk.
No Im not a representative of either of these companies.
I did allot of research about using this phone with any sim I wanted and compared price vs performance of what I get for the money.
I can tell you that you will not find any prepaid service cheaper and with unlimited everything when using with the T989.
Ive compared ATT, Verizon, Virgin, Boost, Net10. All of um I could find. None were cheaper and none offered so much. I ended up sticking with Tmobile service cause of the speed they use vs ATT. I couldnt even use the phone with other services due to the technology they offered. Some services are not compatible with this particular Gs2 model. I suggest you use it with Tmobile towers to get the full performance of the internet. Tmobile uses a specific technology to get full internet speeds, which I think is better than ATT. .
I really wanted to stay with Tmobile, but I gotta tell ya, they sucked. MANY people complain about getting just edge speed when using the Tmobile prepaid service. No kidding! Its cause they purposely throttle the speed! Look at teh small print on there advertisements! They have a few different so called unlimited plans. The price goes stupid high to like $70 just to get full bandwidth speeds to decent usage. With StraightTalk its always full bandwidth and the kicker is that they use Tmobile towers! They dont throttle the speed at all. I dont get anything lower than 9mb down and 3.5 to 4 gb up.
Its $45 a month.Vs anywhere from 50 to $70 depending on the useage for internet you want.
Why did I choose this phone vs other cool phones ?
Well.
THIS phone , when properly setup with apps or a certain rom, can tether wirelessly to your laptop with NO additional tether charges ( which Tmobile charges I think $15 extra ). SO if you are in an area where you have no wifi and need to use your laptop for internet, do what I do. use the GS2 at a wireless router and get very fast internet speeds! Its no extra charge and a quick solution to no wifi.
Just remember to use the FOXFI appto do this no extra charge tethering. No special rom or hacks needed.
Check my other thread about the roms Ive used.
nickcaper said:
Hello. I have great news for anyone that wants to use the Tmobile GalaxySII with a better prepaid service.
I bought the T989 new and then bought a Tmobile Sim card for about $15 from StraightTalk.com
I put the new sim in and changed the APN to StraightTalk apn. It works fabulous.
I get full 4g speeds all day 24/7 and the best thing is I get no throttle.
Tmobile turned me on with there prices but I didnt notice that they throttle there bandwidth to a stupid slow 2g speed after a certain bandwidth usage.
WHY would any company throttle the internet speed with the purpose to have a smart phone is fast internet? The speed went from 4g to 2g. Not 3g. We are talking 56k modem speed. This pissed me off so bad, I went with StraightTalk just 2 weeks after I activated the T989 with Tbobile using there prepaid. Well, not only is Tmobile prepaid $5 more than the StraightTalk service, But the Tmobile service, as I said is very inferior to StraightTalk.
No Im not a representative of either of these companies.
I did allot of research about using this phone with any sim I wanted and compared price vs performance of what I get for the money.
I can tell you that you will not find any prepaid service cheaper and with unlimited everything when using with the T989.
Ive compared ATT, Verizon, Virgin, Boost, Net10. All of um I could find. None were cheaper and none offered so much. I ended up sticking with Tmobile service cause of the speed they use vs ATT. I couldnt even use the phone with other services due to the technology they offered. Some services are not compatible with this particular Gs2 model. I suggest you use it with Tmobile towers to get the full performance of the internet. Tmobile uses a specific technology to get full internet speeds, which I think is better than ATT. .
I really wanted to stay with Tmobile, but I gotta tell ya, they sucked. MANY people complain about getting just edge speed when using the Tmobile prepaid service. No kidding! Its cause they purposely throttle the speed! Look at teh small print on there advertisements! They have a few different so called unlimited plans. The price goes stupid high to like $70 just to get full bandwidth speeds to decent usage. With StraightTalk its always full bandwidth and the kicker is that they use Tmobile towers! They dont throttle the speed at all. I dont get anything lower than 9mb down and 3.5 to 4 gb up.
Its $45 a month.Vs anywhere from 50 to $70 depending on the useage for internet you want.
Why did I choose this phone vs other cool phones ?
Well.
THIS phone , when properly setup with apps or a certain rom, can tether wirelessly to your laptop with NO additional tether charges ( which Tmobile charges I think $15 extra ). SO if you are in an area where you have no wifi and need to use your laptop for internet, do what I do. use the GS2 at a wireless router and get very fast internet speeds! Its no extra charge and a quick solution to no wifi.
Just remember to use the FOXFI appto do this no extra charge tethering. No special rom or hacks needed.
Check my other thread about the roms Ive used.
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are u sure u get 4g ? on they website only say 3g
Is it possible to use the straighttalk via At and T? I have a tmobile phone but it has been blocked on their network (bought from craigslist) . I was wondering if it can be salvaged and used on at and t.
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Is it possible to use the straighttalk via At and T? I have a tmobile phone but it has been blocked on their network (bought from craigslist) . I was wondering if it can be salvaged and used on at and t.
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does it have the proper at&t bands or an at&t radio from the equivalent phone ...
if so you choose at&t compatible when you get the sim/apn from their website
Yeah, say that to your account getting terminated next week. Congratulations.
StraightTalk has a cap of 2GBS!!!! it depends on your luck, but if u get more than 4GBS, you will be suspended in the upcoming days.. T-mobile's monthly4g plans are the only way to get 5GBs for only $30.....
Have fun getting terminated.
There's a big thread about this in the galaxy nexus forums. I own both devices so I hop back & forth between the 2. It is common knowledge that straight talk does not publish their data cap, but rather they kick you off the network. Streaming more than a couple of YouTube videos/day violates their terms of service. This being said, if straight talk is working out for you, good for you. It is a much cheaper alternative. Also, you mention a $5 more T-Mobile plan.... you do realize that the $50 tmo plan includes only 100mb at 4g speeds & then throttling... tmo does offer $60 unlimited talk/text & 2gb of 4g data...
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I've got t mobile's $30 with 5GB & a bunch of texts, enough for Mr anyway, but only 100 minutes. But I don't talk much
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I got T-Mobile 5g for $20 on android prefered plan. I thought 5g was $25.
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Couldn't find it. What are the details?
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I just called they don't do it anymore.
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Oh that sucks. Np tho, I still have 5gb for $30, which you can't get anywhere else.
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Look folks. Seriosuly. All this crap about Tmobile being better is bull****.
I know first hand cause I tried Tmobile with the GS2 then used it with Straight talk.
I still have it on Straighttalk. I installed a data counter. I can see the data I use on 4g vs wifi. I keep the useage down on the phone. I use about 2g a month. Wifi is much more. BUT the speeds is what is most important. Lets do a comparison.
Tmobile 50$ plan gets you *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds then goes to 2 g. There 60$ pan gets you ***First 2GB at up to 4G speeds. This plan is the same data you will get using StraightTalk but $15 more. And for 70$ with Tmobile you get ****First 5GB at up to 4G speeds. WHich is 25$ more and I must say when yoiu are on a budget it does make a difference. Now, I have done several speed tests and compaed my results to 4g and 3G. Then I compared it to my Wifi. Here are the results. My Wifi results show I get 20mb down and 2mb up. This is pretty accurate for what I pay for with my home internet. using just the phone and not wifi I get 4.5mb down and 1.7mb up. I use the speed.net Android app. Just do a search for speed test in android market. It looks like a big speedometer. I get no throttles. And Actually sometimes I get faster speeds on my cell 4g. Ive gotten upto 9mbs! No joke. Most people are getting at most around 2.1mb down on 4g networks. If youre lucky you will get really high 20mb down. WHat people dont understand is that Tmobile has a special channel they use for there data that provides better speeds. Called HSPA+ where at ATT and Verizon use LTE which they claim is faster but no sorry it aint. Do youtube searches and you can see for yourself. So if you use a Tmobile phone on any other network, you wont get the fastest speeds possible. Sure Tmobile and ATT use the same network but NOT the same channels ( frequencies ) So What I did was I choose to get a Tmobile sim card to use the HSPA+ channel. That enables my phone to work at full network speeds. Problem with Tmobile prepaid vs StraightTalk is that Tmobile throttles. SO lets say I get just 3g speeds like some of you keep saying. Well its still a whole lot better than 2g with Tmobile ( look at the price and data useage on Tmobiles cheapest plan ) For example. Lets say we use at most 2g monthly data. Tmobile will cost you $15 more for the same speed and data amount that Straight Talk offers. So WHY use Tmobile? Go check out this video youtu.be/7IBCtS0jmag
I wouldnt bull**** you . I got the phone in my hand and know what Im talking about. BTW I had a Nokia E71 and used it with StraightTalk and always got HsPa speeds which is way up there past 3G. The phone wasnt 4G capable but It would show 3.5G on the screen. The vid I just asked you to watch explains all the speeds. I am infact getting 4 G with StraighTalk.
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Husam2011 said:
Yeah, say that to your account getting terminated next week. Congratulations.
StraightTalk has a cap of 2GBS!!!! it depends on your luck, but if u get more than 4GBS, you will be suspended in the upcoming days.. T-mobile's monthly4g plans are the only way to get 5GBs for only $30.....
Have fun getting terminated.
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Dude you got a bad attitude. Im telling you all this for YOUR benefit.
I been having this phone now for 3 months. No problems at all.
Before this phone I had a Nokia E71 using the ATT sim and got 3.5G speeds. All this crap about only getting 3G is hearsay. Hey if you wanna whine and complain do it in the mirror. I know what Im getting.
You may get something different depending on your area. All I know is that the straighTalk plan is cheaper.
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does it have the proper at&t bands or an at&t radio from the equivalent phone ...
if so you choose at&t compatible when you get the sim/apn from their website
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i double checked it does have the proper at&t bands and radio. Tmobile galaxy s2 with att sim should be able to get 3g speeds. My biggest question is, does tmobile and ATT share blacklist. If they do this means phone will be blacklisted even after unlocked. If not then phone will be able to be used with ATT sim
oh brother
nickcaper said:
Look folks. Seriosuly. All this crap about Tmobile being better is bull****.
I know first hand cause I tried Tmobile with the GS2 then used it with Straight talk.
I still have it on Straighttalk. I installed a data counter. I can see the data I use on 4g vs wifi. I keep the useage down on the phone. I use about 2g a month. Wifi is much more. BUT the speeds is what is most important. Lets do a comparison.
Tmobile 50$ plan gets you *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds then goes to 2 g. There 60$ pan gets you ***First 2GB at up to 4G speeds. This plan is the same data you will get using StraightTalk but $15 more. And for 70$ with Tmobile you get ****First 5GB at up to 4G speeds. WHich is 25$ more and I must say when yoiu are on a budget it does make a difference. Now, I have done several speed tests and compaed my results to 4g and 3G. Then I compared it to my Wifi. Here are the results. My Wifi results show I get 20mb down and 2mb up. This is pretty accurate for what I pay for with my home internet. using just the phone and not wifi I get 4.5mb down and 1.7mb up. I use the speed.net Android app. Just do a search for speed test in android market. It looks like a big speedometer. I get no throttles. And Actually sometimes I get faster speeds on my cell 4g. Ive gotten upto 9mbs! No joke. Most people are getting at most around 2.1mb down on 4g networks. If youre lucky you will get really high 20mb down. WHat people dont understand is that Tmobile has a special channel they use for there data that provides better speeds. Called HSPA+ where at ATT and Verizon use LTE which they claim is faster but no sorry it aint. Do youtube searches and you can see for yourself. So if you use a Tmobile phone on any other network, you wont get the fastest speeds possible. Sure Tmobile and ATT use the same network but NOT the same channels ( frequencies ) So What I did was I choose to get a Tmobile sim card to use the HSPA+ channel. That enables my phone to work at full network speeds. Problem with Tmobile prepaid vs StraightTalk is that Tmobile throttles. SO lets say I get just 3g speeds like some of you keep saying. Well its still a whole lot better than 2g with Tmobile ( look at the price and data useage on Tmobiles cheapest plan ) For example. Lets say we use at most 2g monthly data. Tmobile will cost you $15 more for the same speed and data amount that Straight Talk offers. So WHY use Tmobile? Go check out this video youtu.be/7IBCtS0jmag
I wouldnt bull**** you . I got the phone in my hand and know what Im talking about. BTW I had a Nokia E71 and used it with StraightTalk and always got HsPa speeds which is way up there past 3G. The phone wasnt 4G capable but It would show 3.5G on the screen. The vid I just asked you to watch explains all the speeds. I am infact getting 4 G with StraighTalk.
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Dude you got a bad attitude. Im telling you all this for YOUR benefit.
I been having this phone now for 3 months. No problems at all.
Before this phone I had a Nokia E71 using the ATT sim and got 3.5G speeds. All this crap about only getting 3G is hearsay. Hey if you wanna whine and complain do it in the mirror. I know what Im getting.
You may get something different depending on your area. All I know is that the straighTalk plan is cheaper.
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jeez.i had a nokia e71 on straight talk a couple of years ago,the speed was fair,but it isn't even capable of hspa.
i went over the data limit one month,i got no warning,no throttle.
at the end of the month my account was banned.
i am on month 8 of tmobile's 5 gb 100 minute plan.i recommend it highly.
in fact i added a second account i like it so well.
i make calls over wifi using bobsled calling,does not count against your minutes,and has good sound quality.that has been my experience,i'll refrain from any disparaging comments.
I am on ATT with Unlimited $30 iPhone plan. My main is iPhone 4S yet I just love my T989 and sometimes I switch. Here is what I can say about data. IT is fast and it's 100% not EDGE yet I think for some reason it's not as fast as my 4S (data wise) If needed I can provide speedtest.net test results from same location with 4S and T989 and you'll see that T989 is slightly slower, I'd say I'll get solid 250KB/sec download and about 100KB/sec upload with T989 and about 340/150 with iPhone. Also in Games like Order and Chaos I see iPhone performs a bit better latency wise (now that kinda make no sense but oh well) So here is my 2 cents
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jeez.i had a nokia e71 on straight talk a couple of years ago,the speed was fair,but it isn't even capable of hspa.
i went over the data limit one month,i got no warning,no throttle.
at the end of the month my account was banned.
i am on month 8 of tmobile's 5 gb 100 minute plan.i recommend it highly.
in fact i added a second account i like it so well.
i make calls over wifi using bobsled calling,does not count against your minutes,and has good sound quality.that has been my experience,i'll refrain from any disparaging comments.
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100 minutes might be fine if you sit at home all day with a wifi connection but what about people on the go?
So far i havent been banned or blacklisted.
Ive tried the Tmobile service and its great but again, the throttle is what sux. WHY do they even bother doin that? Im sick of the greedy things these companies do to make money. Its suppose to be unlimited BUt, And you have a smart phone but cant fully use it unless..... its always some bull****.
As for Nokia, yea I got 3.5g all the time. Said it right there on the phone.
BTW. I cant wifi on the T989 cause I dont use Tmobile. Only Tmobile service enables wifi calling.
All they gotta do is take that throttle bull**** off and Ill go with them.
If Straight talk can do it and do it cheaper then why cant Tmobile do it?
There loss.
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I am on ATT with Unlimited $30 iPhone plan. My main is iPhone 4S yet I just love my T989 and sometimes I switch. Here is what I can say about data. IT is fast and it's 100% not EDGE yet I think for some reason it's not as fast as my 4S (data wise) If needed I can provide speedtest.net test results from same location with 4S and T989 and you'll see that T989 is slightly slower, I'd say I'll get solid 250KB/sec download and about 100KB/sec upload with T989 and about 340/150 with iPhone. Also in Games like Order and Chaos I see iPhone performs a bit better latency wise (now that kinda make no sense but oh well) So here is my 2 cents
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Man that is some really slow speeds.
Rememeber, the T989 s meant to work with HSPA+ not LTE.
Using the T989 on anything other than Tmobile may yield slower speeds that you would usually get. The phone works with totally different frequency channels. Although you will get data it wont be as fast. The data frequency on the T989 is not compatible with the ATT data frequency. They arent the same. So people get slow speeds when using the T989 on ATT service. Tmobile uses 1900mhz for HSPA+ which is 4G. The 1900Mhz channel ATT uses only gives HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA is just 3G. In 2013 Tmobile will start using the 1700/2100mhz channels for LTE but your T989 will still only be setup for 1900Mhz HSPA+. ATT uses 1700/2100mhz channels for 4g. As you can see these 2 companies uses different channels to get 4g speeds.
So again, if you have a T989 Always always use a Tmobile sim card with StraighTalk or use Tmobile as your service. If you dont, the phone will not receive proper 1900Mhz data frequencies and wont get high internet speeds.
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I used to own a G2X for the tomobile network and now I have a galaxy s2, but the thing I remember going on in the g2x forums was that there was a hack to make it so that your phone wouldn't get throttled if you went over the cap limit on tmobiles network. I don't know if such a thing exists for our gs2 but if it doesn't might not hurt to ask the dev guys for help on this being a possibiltu for our phones.
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100 minutes might be fine if you sit at home all day with a wifi connection but what about people on the go?
So far i havent been banned or blacklisted.
Ive tried the Tmobile service and its great but again, the throttle is what sux. WHY do they even bother doin that? Im sick of the greedy things these companies do to make money. Its suppose to be unlimited BUt, And you have a smart phone but cant fully use it unless..... its always some bull****.
As for Nokia, yea I got 3.5g all the time. Said it right there on the phone.
BTW. I cant wifi on the T989 cause I dont use Tmobile. Only Tmobile service enables wifi calling.
All they gotta do is take that throttle bull**** off and Ill go with them.
If Straight talk can do it and do it cheaper then why cant Tmobile do it?
There loss.
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Man that is some really slow speeds.
Rememeber, the T989 s meant to work with HSPA+ not LTE.
Using the T989 on anything other than Tmobile may yield slower speeds that you would usually get. The phone works with totally different frequency channels. Although you will get data it wont be as fast. The data frequency on the T989 is not compatible with the ATT data frequency. They arent the same. So people get slow speeds when using the T989 on ATT service. Tmobile uses 1900mhz for HSPA+ which is 4G. The 1900Mhz channel ATT uses only gives HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA is just 3G. In 2013 Tmobile will start using the 1700/2100mhz channels for LTE but your T989 will still only be setup for 1900Mhz HSPA+. ATT uses 1700/2100mhz channels for 4g. As you can see these 2 companies uses different channels to get 4g speeds.
So again, if you have a T989 Always always use a Tmobile sim card with StraighTalk or use Tmobile as your service. If you dont, the phone will not receive proper 1900Mhz data frequencies and wont get high internet speeds.
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Well in that case if possible explain this. Let's make this simple. There is EDGE that will give you like 10KB sec at most ....then there is 3G that will give you anything from lower 100kb to as high as 8Mbit / sec ( I get easy 8Mbit/sec on Brighton Beach 11235 ZIP CODE) now T989 is not EDGE it's simply too fast for that and you saying it does not have proper band for ATT 3G ..so what does is works on then ? Because in my understanding T989 by TMobile is ONLY SGS2 phone that support all carriers with 3G speeds. I may be wrong but all I know is this. It works not as good as iPhone on ATT but I can listen radio and make Skype calls with video and watch youtube movies when let's say other Tmobile phones and using edge I can hardly get email going with ATT SIM and forget about any multimedia.
I think you are not fully educated on the cell phone technologies.
Cell phones have the capability to work on all old technologies. Or at least most old technologies. In other words, todays cell phones are backward compatible with Edge and 2G and even 3G. The Galaxy S2 is a 4g phone. NOT just 3G. but can work on 3G as well. It gets 4G by using the HSPA+ carrier. Others use LTE like your Iphone.
You should look at the chart again and made a study of it.
Your Iphone you have is manufactured to work with ATT. It has a special radio in it that is specifically setup to work with ATT 4G LTE which is any of the 3 channels in the chart for ATT. The 3 channels ATT uses to get 4G is 700mhz, 1700 and 2100Mhz. 4g goes way up to around 20+mb download. Your ATT iPhone also works on 3G but ATT's 3g channels are 850 and 1900mhz and use the HSPA carrier. NOT HSPA+ which Tmobile uses to get 4G. But Tmobile does some magic and uses the ATT HSPA channels and turns them into 4G by using HSPA+ !!!!
If you look at the TMobile chart you can see that its VERY beneficial to use there network and phones for 2 reasons. First, If you use Tmobile you will get very fast data speeds which many say is the fastest. Second reason is, that Tmobile uses a totally different set of channels to get that data speed PLUS allows you to use your ATT phone on there channels AND get 4G speeds that ATT would only yield 3G! Ill give you the big picture here. MOSt phones right now, that ATT user have are working in the 850mhz to 1900mhz range. That gives the ATT user a 3G speed and they will see around 2.1mb downloads at best. The really cool thing about Tmobile is that if you take your ATT phone and port it over to Tmobile, that same 1900mhz is now running at 4g speeds due to the HSPA+ technology Tmobile uses. And you didnt even have to do anything !!!
Many people have said that when porting over to Tmobile they get faster speeds. This is why.
The only time ATT will be the same speed as Tmobile is when you have an ATT phone like an Iphone 4 that runs on the LTE network. Of course there are other new phones that use the LTE technology on ATT but for most people right now, they are still using the 3G channels because they bought there phones a year or 2 ago and LTE was not out then.
If You are getting high speeds on your Iphone 4 and not on your GS2 then its due to one reason. Reception. The GS2 cant recieve LTE speeds which on paper says its way faster than Tmobile. As I said it can be upto 20+mb download. Many people dont get that but some do. HSPA+ will get 8mb with a very good signal and that is not a bad download at all. Its very good actually. Soon, in 2013 Tmobile will be upgrading to LTE so dont worry about speed. Tmobile will be way up there with ATT and while ATT still has the Iphone, Android is right there coming out with phones that smoke Iphone. Tmobile offers 4G speeds with 3G channels. Noone else does that. Its cause they want people to port over to there service.
I hope you can understand what Im saying now.
Hey Guys,
I'm planning on buying the HTC One X International Version and I can't decide on which service provider to go with. I want to find the best provider with the best speeds and a decent "unlimited" data program. Any suggestions??
Definitely Straight Talk. Not unlimited data as advertised, more in the area of 2.5gb per month. People have claimed they've gone through a lot of data a month, but I would keep it reasonable when you're a new customer.
Only true unlimited mvno I can think of is
Boost Mobile, but not an option since they're cdma. Straight Talk has the best coverage and speeds.
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Definitely Straight Talk. Not unlimited data as advertised, more in the area of 2.5gb per month. People have claimed they've gone through a lot of data a month, but I would keep it reasonable when you're a new customer.
Only true unlimited mvno I can think of is
Boost Mobile, but not an option since they're cdma. Straight Talk has the best coverage and speeds.
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I see that you are using Straight Talk how well does your service do with the phone? Good speeds?? Does straight talk connect with AT&Ts Faux(4)G network HSPA?? Sorry for all the questions just want to find the best deal, had verizon but got fed up with the 103/month bill.
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I see that you are using Straight Talk how well does your service do with the phone? Good speeds?? Does straight talk connect with AT&Ts Faux(4)G network HSPA?? Sorry for all the questions just want to find the best deal, had verizon but got fed up with the 103/month bill.
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Coverage is good, I live outside of major cities. Haven't done a speedtest, but load webpages, email, and other miscellaneous content fast. 3g, no 4g. I'm on WiFi 85% of the time, so this unlimited plan is great. Also to note, Straight Talk has me under AT&T since the coverage was better than T-Mobile in my area.
The T-Mobile prepaid $30 unlimited plan (5gb 4g data - throttled, 100 minutes, unlimited text) really got me interested until I later learned their bands still aren't upgraded for 850/1900 mhz. If you're fine with fast edge speed and mediocre coverage, than that might be of interest to you.
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I just use my Verizon WiFi hotspot for data when not at home or work WiFi. Tmo for voice... Let's me use any intl gsm phone without worrying about bands.
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Coverage is good, I live outside of major cities. Haven't done a speedtest, but load webpages, email, and other miscellaneous content fast. 3g, no 4g. I'm on WiFi 85% of the time, so this unlimited plan is great. Also to note, Straight Talk has me under AT&T since the coverage was better than T-Mobile in my area.
The T-Mobile prepaid $30 unlimited plan (5gb 4g data - throttled, 100 minutes, unlimited text) really got me interested until I later learned their bands still aren't upgraded for 850/1900 mhz. If you're fine with fast edge speed and mediocre coverage, than that might be of interest to you.
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Yeah T-Mobile coverage in my area sucks too. I live in a major city so speeds should be relatively good for me, I had ATT as a Go-Phone before and service coverage was awesome around here didn't ever drop a call but didn't have a data plan so can't speak on the speeds. Yeah, when I heard about T-mobile updating to the 890/1900 mhz band it made me think about going to them but I don't think I'd be able to deal with their edge network speeds.
*Bump* Sorry just bumping so its not 3 pages into the forum.
have you checked on the recent at&t prepaid plan? it looks as though you still have to buy a data package on $50 unlimited with a smartphone. i'm on at&t prepaid: i picked the $2/day usage only option and bought a data package, but i've heard the data package portion will not be renewable. i have a mobile hotspot i could fall back on, so it may not be much of an issue for me. but it's something to think about.
i have a suspicion straight talk may be your best bet if you're a heavy user of talk/text as well as data. just check and make sure it runs off the att network where you live.
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have you checked on the recent at&t prepaid plan? it looks as though you still have to buy a data package on $50 unlimited with a smartphone. i'm on at&t prepaid: i picked the $2/day usage only option and bought a data package, but i've heard the data package portion will not be renewable. i have a mobile hotspot i could fall back on, so it may not be much of an issue for me. but it's something to think about.
i have a suspicion straight talk may be your best bet if you're a heavy user of talk/text as well as data. just check and make sure it runs off the att network where you live.
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Yeah, I'm really confused with the new data plans, cause they have the new unlimited for $50 and it doesnt say anything against smart phones using it and now android are not allowed on the pay for what you use plans. As for straight talk here runs both AT&T and Tmobile they give they choice to us.
it does say smartphone users must purchase a data package. there a few people on the boards who say they have been able to fly under the radar and not have to do that with an unlimited plan. i only switched to att prepaid recently, so i wouldn't know for sure, but you should check around the boards to see what user experience is. in any case, my first fallback is my mobile hotspot, then i may eventually move to straight talk if att doesn't let me continue as is. i'm such a minimal user that i don't even want to pay $45/month if i don't have to.
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it does say smartphone users must purchase a data package. there a few people on the boards who say they have been able to fly under the radar and not have to do that with an unlimited plan. i only switched to att prepaid recently, so i wouldn't know for sure, but you should check around the boards to see what user experience is. in any case, my first fallback is my mobile hotspot, then i may eventually move to straight talk if att doesn't let me continue as is. i'm such a minimal user that i don't even want to pay $45/month if i don't have to.
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Yeah, thats what I'll most like do is use WiFi most of the time, since straight talk is capped at around 2.5gb I a huge data user but I barely use talk, and text i have upwards of 5,000 a month xD
i wouldn't count on ATT GoPhone. they will probably start checking what phones are used and telling you to update your sim and plan. if you can afford it, 499/year at Straight Talk is the best plan i've seen. i'm waiting for college loans and switching.
Straight Talk may be capped/throttled after 2.5 GB like ATT does, but you are getting everything cheaper. i pay 70 AFTER a 7% discount for 450 mins, 2 GB, and no text/mms. i'm taking 42-45/month to Straight Talk when i get out of contract.
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i wouldn't count on ATT GoPhone. they will probably start checking what phones are used and telling you to update your sim and plan. if you can afford it, 499/year at Straight Talk is the best plan i've seen. i'm waiting for college loans and switching.
Straight Talk may be capped/throttled after 2.5 GB like ATT does, but you are getting everything cheaper. i pay 70 AFTER a 7% discount for 450 mins, 2 GB, and no text/mms. i'm taking 42-45/month to Straight Talk when i get out of contract.
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Yeah, thats most likely what I'll end up doing in the long after trying the service out first to see how it runs. Now if only the wireless companies could figure out that they are just hurting themselves by not offering unlimited data to customers xD
Go with ATT pay as you go, or goto a corporate not retail and have them activate a non contract line with 15 non smartphone data, which is the same BTW, and whatever messaging plan, one comes with unlimited any mobile and all this without showing your phone or call 18003310500 and they'll ship out a sim card. The imei is not a registered one with AT&T.
Guaranteed not bsing.
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Go with ATT pay as you go, or goto a corporate not retail and have them activate a non contract line with 15 non smartphone data, which is the same BTW, and whatever messaging plan, one comes with unlimited any mobile and all this without showing your phone or call 18003310500 and they'll ship out a sim card. The imei is not a registered one with AT&T.
Guaranteed not bsing.
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So $15 unlimited data? What are the speeds like? And they have unlimited messaging? What about minutes?
I was able to fly under the radar for my AT&T go prepaid for unlimited data for about 4 months and then one day data was shut off. I was able to put my sim in my V3xx and data works. I guess I can go to straight talk or tmobile now lol
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I was able to fly under the radar for my AT&T go prepaid for unlimited data for about 4 months and then one day data was shut off. I was able to put my sim in my V3xx and data works. I guess I can go to straight talk or tmobile now lol
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What kind of phone were you using? Was it an AT&T branded smartphone?
Liking where this thread is going. Subbed.
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Thinking about jumping ship from Sprint and coming over to AT&T, looking at the GS3
Thinking about buying a AT&T GS III today.
I have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy II now but I'm sick of Sprints data, what good is unlimited when you get 20 kbps on average or it times out completely. I've tried countless ROMS, Modems and Kernels with little to no luck.
We have no 4G where I work and the 3G is a joke.
I'm currently using the corporate PRL file along with ROAM Control to permanently use Verizon's towers. I was hoping they would give me the boot but no such luck. Even on Verizon, the speed just isn't that great because I can't use Verizon's enhances data network.
Everyone I work with has AT&T and the speeds look great, even when not on LTE the HSPA+ looks really good. My friends got the Skyrocket and I WISH I had his HSPA+ speeds lol.
Couple questions before I make the move though. Does AT&T offer discounts for various types discounts? I'm an ISD School District, Technology's Department. I have a discount because of this threw Sprint, 15% off.
Also, the plan I'm looking at is the 70 dollars unlimited with 4G of data. If this LTE data or both LTE and HSPS+? My friend says when you hit your LTE data cap, the phone still works on 3G. Someone else said that is not true, you get 4G of everything, when you hit the cap, you get charged.
Also can someone explain to me why the $70.00 dollar plan, or any plan for that matter has a surcharge of $40.00 dollars for "Smartphones"? Sprint does something similar, they charge $10.00 dollars for premium data which most Sprint users thing is BS. I actually have a 2 year monthly revolving monthly credit because I called and *****ed that we don't even HAVE 4G in this area. Sprint used to call this a 4G data charge, they have sense changed it to a "Premium Data" fee so they don't get so much crap about it.
Looks like I'm looking at $70.00 for the service, $40 for a "Smartphone" fee, $10.00 dollars for insurance and $3.00 for Roadside, I've used this more times then I can count on Sprint so I might at well get it for AT&T too. About $130 a month with everything.
My work gives me $40.00 a month towards my phone but if I can snag a school employ discount, maybe I can get this down to the same range as my Sprint service.
Has anyone here come to AT&T from Sprint and or Verizon? What is your impressions of AT&T's data other then LTE?
Dumping Sprint was the best thing I ever did.
I now have data that "just works" throughout Florida, and it's fast as hell almost everywhere I've checked along the ring formed by by I-4/I-75/I-95 + Turnpike. Half my drive to work used to be a de-facto dead zone. It's not, anymore.
I get ~26mbps in SE Florida and Orlando, and reliably get ~10-16 in Naples & Bradenton (hspa+ speeds, but supposedly LTE; I suspect it's a backhaul-imposed limit. Either way, it beats Sprint like an unloved child.)
I can't speak for other parts of the country, but AT&T's coverage *and* speed is rock-solid south of I-4, and I have no reason to think it's any slower in northern Florida (with the possible exception of the hardcore rural area between Tallahassee and Pensacola)
Just one major annoyance. If I'm visiting my parents in Naples & using wi-fi, sometimes the phone slips into non-UMTS/HSPA(+) mode, and causes annoying "GSM noise". I wish I could figure out how to lock the phone into 3G mode so it won't do that. I know it saves battery life, but I *really* hate "GSM noise." I'm sure there's a way to do it, I just haven't found it yet.
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Also can someone explain to me why the $70.00 dollar plan, or any plan for that matter has a surcharge of $40.00 dollars for "Smartphones"? Sprint does something similar, they charge $10.00 dollars for premium data which most Sprint users thing is BS. I actually have a 2 year monthly revolving monthly credit because I called and *****ed that we don't even HAVE 4G in this area. Sprint used to call this a 4G data charge, they have sense changed it to a "Premium Data" fee so they don't get so much crap about it.
Looks like I'm looking at $70.00 for the service, $40 for a "Smartphone" fee, $10.00 dollars for insurance and $3.00 for Roadside, I've used this more times then I can count on Sprint so I might at well get it for AT&T too. About $130 a month with everything.
My work gives me $40.00 a month towards my phone but if I can snag a school employ discount, maybe I can get this down to the same range as my Sprint service.
Has anyone here come to AT&T from Sprint and or Verizon? What is your impressions of AT&T's data other then LTE?
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i think that is the new tiered data plan structure. The $70 is for unlimited talk and text. The $40 is for the pool of data. I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, so I can't guarantee that the previous is 100% accurate. I know that they switched to something similar to verizon's plans.
ATT 3G blows verizon and sprint speeds out of the water. On 3g, I get close to 4 Mbps downstream on a good day and 1Mbps downstream on a slow day. I got that on my old galaxy s1 as well. Plus, you get a different tier of data speed with ATT...HSPA+. ATT has a theoretical speed of 21Mbps for HSPA+, although I've only ever seen mine go up to around 10Mbps. I have LTE just about every where I go. I get 30-50Mbps on LTE.
To the OP I was in the EXACT same boat your in. I had a Sprint GS2. With useless data speeds. Ran on different PRL's and received the roaming data threat. I asked myself the same thing..... why have unlimited data if it takes 5 minutes to open up a web page and calls always dropping.
I can't really speak for your plan questions but my wife is an RN and we get 15 percent off our bill.
Switching to AT&T was the best decision for us. Data speeds are so much faster then Sprint here in WV.
Good luck bro.....
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Thinking about buying a AT&T GS III today.
I have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy II now but I'm sick of Sprints data, what good is unlimited when you get 20 kbps on average or it times out completely. I've tried countless ROMS, Modems and Kernels with little to no luck.
We have no 4G where I work and the 3G is a joke.
I'm currently using the corporate PRL file along with ROAM Control to permanently use Verizon's towers. I was hoping they would give me the boot but no such luck. Even on Verizon, the speed just isn't that great because I can't use Verizon's enhances data network.
Everyone I work with has AT&T and the speeds look great, even when not on LTE the HSPA+ looks really good. My friends got the Skyrocket and I WISH I had his HSPA+ speeds lol.
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Similar performance I had on Sprint. I got sick of it when my girlfriend got a GS3 on AT&T and I saw how fast LTE and HSPA+ really were. I decided to jump ship and pay the ETF too. Very glad with the move.
Couple questions before I make the move though. Does AT&T offer discounts for various types discounts? I'm an ISD School District, Technology's Department. I have a discount because of this threw Sprint, 15% off.
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Yeah they do. You can do the check here for what your discount is: https://www.wireless.att.com/business/authenticate/
Also, the plan I'm looking at is the 70 dollars unlimited with 4G of data. If this LTE data or both LTE and HSPS+? My friend says when you hit your LTE data cap, the phone still works on 3G. Someone else said that is not true, you get 4G of everything, when you hit the cap, you get charged.
Also can someone explain to me why the $70.00 dollar plan, or any plan for that matter has a surcharge of $40.00 dollars for "Smartphones"? Sprint does something similar, they charge $10.00 dollars for premium data which most Sprint users thing is BS. I actually have a 2 year monthly revolving monthly credit because I called and *****ed that we don't even HAVE 4G in this area. Sprint used to call this a 4G data charge, they have sense changed it to a "Premium Data" fee so they don't get so much crap about it.
Looks like I'm looking at $70.00 for the service, $40 for a "Smartphone" fee, $10.00 dollars for insurance and $3.00 for Roadside, I've used this more times then I can count on Sprint so I might at well get it for AT&T too. About $130 a month with everything.
My work gives me $40.00 a month towards my phone but if I can snag a school employ discount, maybe I can get this down to the same range as my Sprint service.
Has anyone here come to AT&T from Sprint and or Verizon? What is your impressions of AT&T's data other then LTE?
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They don't have unlimited data plans for us new customers. What you're looking at is unlimited talking and texting most likely. They have a 300mb, 3gb, and 5gb data plan. The 5gb plan includes tethering.
My biggest complaint about AT&T compared to Sprint is that they really do nickle and dime you to death. 4 things that get me:
SMS. Sprint had unlimited included. AT&T it's 20/mo unlimited or 0.20/message
They *charge airtime* for 800 numbers. Sprint didn't.
Using GV to forward voicemail uses 2 anytime minutes for every call.
Sprint was mobile to mobile any network. AT&T is only to AT&T customers unless you add that 20/mo unlimited SMS plan.
At&t has updated plans, not sure of the new data plans, but they have a plan to talk and text to any carrier for unlimited
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kdoggy said:
Thinking about buying a AT&T GS III today.
I have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy II now but I'm sick of Sprints data, what good is unlimited when you get 20 kbps on average or it times out completely. I've tried countless ROMS, Modems and Kernels with little to no luck.
We have no 4G where I work and the 3G is a joke.
I'm currently using the corporate PRL file along with ROAM Control to permanently use Verizon's towers. I was hoping they would give me the boot but no such luck. Even on Verizon, the speed just isn't that great because I can't use Verizon's enhances data network.
Everyone I work with has AT&T and the speeds look great, even when not on LTE the HSPA+ looks really good. My friends got the Skyrocket and I WISH I had his HSPA+ speeds lol.
Couple questions before I make the move though. Does AT&T offer discounts for various types discounts? I'm an ISD School District, Technology's Department. I have a discount because of this threw Sprint, 15% off.
Also, the plan I'm looking at is the 70 dollars unlimited with 4G of data. If this LTE data or both LTE and HSPS+? My friend says when you hit your LTE data cap, the phone still works on 3G. Someone else said that is not true, you get 4G of everything, when you hit the cap, you get charged.
Also can someone explain to me why the $70.00 dollar plan, or any plan for that matter has a surcharge of $40.00 dollars for "Smartphones"? Sprint does something similar, they charge $10.00 dollars for premium data which most Sprint users thing is BS. I actually have a 2 year monthly revolving monthly credit because I called and *****ed that we don't even HAVE 4G in this area. Sprint used to call this a 4G data charge, they have sense changed it to a "Premium Data" fee so they don't get so much crap about it.
Looks like I'm looking at $70.00 for the service, $40 for a "Smartphone" fee, $10.00 dollars for insurance and $3.00 for Roadside, I've used this more times then I can count on Sprint so I might at well get it for AT&T too. About $130 a month with everything.
My work gives me $40.00 a month towards my phone but if I can snag a school employ discount, maybe I can get this down to the same range as my Sprint service.
Has anyone here come to AT&T from Sprint and or Verizon? What is your impressions of AT&T's data other then LTE?
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Smart move i just switched to At&t waiting on my phone to arrive Tues cost was 24.00 with job discount, its a refurb...selling my galaxy s3 and iphone4 with sprint for 500 if anyone interested
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They *charge airtime* for 800 numbers. Sprint didn't.
Using GV to forward voicemail uses 2 anytime minutes for every call.
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Yeah, but att has rollover minutes, so I've never worried about going over on minutes.
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At&t has updated plans, not sure of the new data plans, but they have a plan to talk and text to any carrier for unlimited
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I have an employee discount, so my unlimited text/data with 450 prime minutes w/rollover 2000 night weekend is on $80/month.
I made the exact same switch about 1 month ago & it's the best move I've made! On a good day (more like a minute) with Sprint, I'd get 1 mbps, but I'd average .30 mbps or less. Unlimited data is useless.
I was nervous about the 3gb cap with ATT, but after now having it, 3gb is alot more than I thought is was. Using my phone like I did with Sprint, maybe being a little more careful, I haven't even used 1gb yet (the 9th is actually 1 month, so plenty of data for me). I just now make sure if wifi is available somewhere I to use it. I set the data limt on my GS3 to 2.5gb limit just incase.
I now average 5-7mbps on 4g. I've speedtested a few times I've had LTE & get well over 20mbps. I maxed out 54.46 & I got 36,11 once too, The LTE is unbelievable, sometimes faster than my Verizon Fios at home where I get 43 mbps.
Also in comparison to VerizonWireless, I've had a better phone signal in a lot more places & faster data.
What made me pull the plunge...When I thought about the slow 3g & barely getting 4g. I couldn't ever hit 3gb of data with Sprint even if I tried on pupose. So why not have usable data with a cap, instead of unusable without a cap? & the phone service for me has been on a decline. No signal, unusable in more places.
Now I can actually open websites, pictures load on FB & Instagram almost instant! The most important thing, my GPS connects in less than 5 seconds everytime & navigation actually works now (not using as much data as I thought it would either). If you download GPS Test & compare the phones side by side, you'll see what I mean for yourself.
Make the switch, you won't regret it!
The Sammy GS III was looking nice but I just finished reading some reviews on the upcoming LG Google Nexus 4, I think I might hold out another week or so and pick one of those up $349.00 with no contract sounds damn appealing.
If I'm reading this right, it should work on AT&T right?
I would......
Certainly the SIII is an awesome superphone. I use Bell Canada and I am very happy with the hardware.
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The Sammy GS III was looking nice but I just finished reading some reviews on the upcoming LG Google Nexus 4, I think I might hold out another week or so and pick one of those up $349.00 with no contract sounds damn appealing.
If I'm reading this right, it should work on AT&T right?
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Yes, but it doesn't have lte...only hspa+.
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drwx said:
Yes, but it doesn't have lte...only hspa+.
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We have no LTE service here anyway.
kdoggy said:
We have no LTE service here anyway.
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if i had no option of having lte, it would still be a tough decision between the 2. fortunately, we have lte in the nashville area, so my decision is easy.
Just did it today.got tire of waiting for sprint to upgrade their slow 4g ...AT&T flies ...
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Just did it today.got tire of waiting for sprint to upgrade their slow 4g ...AT&T flies ...
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Welcome to the att forums, my uncle has Sprint and is also frustrated on his iPhone about data speed in LA which is supposed to be pretty good here
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I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
mitul2288 said:
I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
Jinra321 said:
Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I did the same thing, my sponsor let me use his IMEI just to get the sim, and then once we liked the service, my wife used his sim for her own note 2.
As for question number 3, they do have a plan that doesn't have any cap, but I believe it's $89 per month.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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Awesome, I am glad you like it. I was hoping to use my phone to download .nzb movies while on the go and use it as my main internet line via tethering. That is where I came up with the 20-30 gb figure.
Would solavei throttle me or block my account if I use that much data?
Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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jacky37 said:
Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
mitul2288 said:
dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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mdt73 said:
Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Nope, sprint doesn't throttle at all, although it's hard to find a place with LTE or WiMAX which means, you'll be stuck on their 3G at best.
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
djhvc said:
Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Got MMS working?