This has probably been answered before by one or two people, but I'd rather know from the whole lot of you brave souls who have switched from yakjuux to yakju.
I'm specifically wondering from those of you that have done the COMPLETE switchover to the yakju build... that includes ALL things that come with it, including it's radio.
I know we can flash the KL1 radio on top, but I'm not looking to do that. I want the entire thing to be from Google, and keep it as such. From what I understand, when you have the yakju build, and the KL1 radio, you will not get OTA updates automatically, thus having to flash manually. On the flip side, if its a complete yakju, including the radio that comes with it, you will get the OTA updates automatically.
So here's the questions:
1. Have any of you flashed the yakju build on your phones KEEPING THE RADIO that is a part of that build? If so, what are your experiences with reception/data specifically on the Bell Network? Any difference that you've noticed?
2. Am I wrong in my thinking? If you did flash yakju, then the KL1 radio, will you definitely receive OTA updates automatically? As in no real user intervention other than clicking "update"?
I want to be sure before I do this, because I cannot find a complete image of the yakjuux build that includes everything including the bootloader in case something goes wrong/or doesn't update the way a true Google experience should.
Please let me now.
Thanks
I am running stock 4.0.2 with everything from the official image. No problem with signal. What is your worry?
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I am running stock 4.0.2 with everything from the official image. No problem with signal. What is your worry?
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Just want to make sure the radio from the official build works properly with Bell.
Don't really want to create a Frankenstein build so too speak by adding different radios
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I changed mine to yakju shortly after I got the phone, about two weeks ago.
I haven't noticed any difference with the radio, good or bad. Still no issues with reception or anything dropping out.
Can't tell you about the OTA updates though, haven't received anything yet to go past 4.0.2. If/when I do, I'll update my reply to help everyone else out.
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I changed mine to yakju shortly after I got the phone, about two weeks ago.
I haven't noticed any difference with the radio, good or bad. Still no issues with reception or anything dropping out.
Can't tell you about the OTA updates though, haven't received anything yet to go past 4.0.2. If/when I do, I'll update my reply to help everyone else out.
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Thank you for your reply. Just to clarify, you are using the stock radio that came with yakju? I think its KK or something? Or did you change over to KL1?
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Thank you for your reply. Just to clarify, you are using the stock radio that came with yakju? I think its KK or something? Or did you change over to KL1?
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bump. bump.
why are you so worried about receiving ota automatically? since you are on xda and know how to flash you will always have the latest build. Being in canada we usually are slow to get updates(Galaxy Nexus is still on 4.0.1 here) so whats the point in waiting for ota. if you are planning to flash an update now why not do it again when a new one comes out.
btw to answer your questions about the radio, the stock one,XXKK6, will work fine with bell although UGKL1 seems to work better for me on Fido. UGKL1 is probably the radio that your phone has now. it was on my stock fido GN.
I flashed the entire package, including the xxkk6 radio.. Works perfectly fine on Rogers, no comment for Bell but should be fine. Just try it, flash it back if you don't like it. Takes all of 2 minutes.
From what I understand (and I'm still new to this as well) you need to use the radio that comes with the official image otherwise you won't get OTA updates associated with that rom.
Newbie account so I can't post links yet but search "galaxy nexus upgrade to official roms yakju build" and its the leemn wordpress blog that says:
"After flashing to yakju build, you can still receive notification of the OTA updates.If you have flashed the radio, system, userdata and boot partitions, and you still have the stock recovery (or have flashed it) from the 4.0.2 image, you will be able to install the updates. However, if you flash a different radio, or different kernel , or a custom recovery, you will need to flash back the stock ones first before being able to install the update."
That's the whole thing.
When I was on the SGS, I tried a while slew of custom roms as well as the European beta builds.
I wasn't worried about doing that because there was always a way to go back to KG3, by spoofing the firmware to make KIES think it was on JL2. KIES would download KG3 officially back to the phone.
I always seemed to revert back to stock because none of the beta or custom roms seemed to work efficiently for me the way the stock one did.
I know, I'm strange.
So that experience brings me here. Without an official download of the yakjuux build available (bootloader image), there really is no going back if something just doesn't work as intended. (remember, we all use our phones differently).
That's why the fright. I just don't want to get to the point that this Canadian incarnation starts having an identity crisis.
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I flashed it all.
Works great. No issues. I also wanted 100% stock and so far, i am very happy with it.
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Thank you for your reply. Just to clarify, you are using the stock radio that came with yakju? I think its KK or something? Or did you change over to KL1?
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Sorry missed your question, but I'm using the KL1 radio.
I am with Fido and have complete 4.0.2 stock rom. I had some strange issues with signals but everything is fine after I changed to a new SIM.
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That's the whole thing.
When I was on the SGS, I tried a while slew of custom roms as well as the European beta builds.
I wasn't worried about doing that because there was always a way to go back to KG3, by spoofing the firmware to make KIES think it was on JL2. KIES would download KG3 officially back to the phone.
I always seemed to revert back to stock because none of the beta or custom roms seemed to work efficiently for me the way the stock one did.
I know, I'm strange.
So that experience brings me here. Without an official download of the yakjuux build available (bootloader image), there really is no going back if something just doesn't work as intended. (remember, we all use our phones differently).
That's why the fright. I just don't want to get to the point that this Canadian incarnation starts having an identity crisis.
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I'm not sure what the problem is. When you unlock your bootloader, you just do a nandroid backup, and it backups up your system, data, recovery and boot partitions. The radio is already available. So you can always go back to "stock" yakjuux in case yakju doesn't work (which it obviously does for Canadian users). I've even posted a nandroid backup of my yakjuux build before I flashed yakju. There is a thread in the general section. And to address your concern about "always reverting to stock", yakju IS the stock ROM, it is not a beta or a custom ROM.
The bootloader has nothing to do with yakju or yakjuux or whatever. It will not affect anything related to getting an OTA update or installing an OTA update. Keep your current bootloader if you are worried about not having a backup, and go ahead and flash all of the other images (after backing up your originals of course). That way, you can always return to your yakjuxx if you think there is a problem. Just because you didn't flash the bootloader that came with the latest yakju image does not at all mean you are not using yakju, and I would not call it a "frankenbuild" -- think of the bootloader as the BIOS in a computer. You computer is running Windows regardless if you are using an ASUS P5Q motherboard, or an ABIT IP5 motherboard -- both have different BIOS, but the OS is still Windows. Same with a GN -- you are running yakju regardless of whether you bootloader is 10, 14, 15, etc.
EDIT: To specifically address your question number 2 -- if you flash the system, data and boot images from yakju, you are running yakju, and you will receive the notification for an OTA update when it is available. However, you will not be able to have it install automatically if you don't have the radio image that came with the yakju build and a stock recovery (they are all the same). You can, however, flash those back as soon as you receive the OTA update notification and it will install automatically. Bootloader has no relevance whatsoever.
Great explanation. Thank you efrant. You've answered everything I've needed to know
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Well finally took the plunge and went to yakju from yakjuux. Although my experience wasn't as seemless as everyone elses, so I thought I'd tell everyone just in case someone else runs in to the same problem.
For starters: I followed efrants excellent procedure from this exact post. However it also must be noted that I decided to use the 41F (4.0.1) firmware from Google's images instead of the 53F (4.0.2) image. I did this because I wanted to experience an update. lol
Now, at first I had to try several drivers in order for my Windows 7 laptop to even see the phone with the "fastboot devices" command. I finally found one that works. Coincidentally, one driver will work on one machine, but won't on the next, I have no idea why. After finally getting the right one, I proceeded:
I did all steps to the letter, but skipped steps 4,5 and 12, as the post says they were optional and I didn't really want to lose my bootloader and recovery in case I wanted to revert back to yakjuux.
After completing all steps but those, I did the final "fastboot reboot" and the phone restarted.
Here's where the ride began:
When it restarted, it seemed like everything was fine. It took a while to find Bell's settings, but it was ok. It then said an update to 4.0.2. was available.
Upon the reboot and install, the phone shut off, and rebooted twice, after the second time, I had an android on the ground with its chest open and a RED exclamationed triangle above it. My thoughts were "uh oh". I waited and waited, and nothing was happening. Pressing power and holding it down, wouldn't help.... After approx 5 mins I was about to do a battery pull, and it restarted itself, but remained on the 41F update.
Each restart would say it was upgrading, but never did.. always stayed on 41F.
So I went back and did everything in the procedure, not omitting anything this time (goodbye yakjuux bootloader!) and it went off without a hitch... This time my android figure was standing up, very much alive and getting a heart transplant.
So here I am.. Yakju configured and using the yakju KK6 radio. All seems well. Haven't decided if I'm going to put the KL1 radio on as yet, but thats for another day.
Thanks again efrant for all your help and patience with me.
@greeced Welcome to yakju. I doubt you will ever go back to yakjuux.
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Well, I have been on yakju for a few days now and I can say no problems whatsoever.
At first I felt as if it was slightly Laggy, but that seemed to correct itself after a day or so. Not sure why, but the phone is just as quick as before now.
As for the radio, I wanted to stay completely stock, and that included the radio. So my phone is running the stock KK6 that came with the update, and I noticed my DBM levels are just as good as before if not better. So I don't feel the need to flash KL1.
Overall very happy that I'm now Pure Google.
One thing to note:
When I was on my SGS, I always factory reset after every flash, which always seemed to speed up the experience of the new ROM.
I think that should be the case for all firmware updates, including googles.
It's a painful process to redo everything, but well worth it in my opinion.
I mean think about it, installing a fresh copy of windows always performs better than doing an upgrade of windows, so that should be the same here.
We are dealing with computers after all.
At any rate. Just thought I'd update my experience in case anyone else who is on bell felt apprehensive like me.
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Well, I have been on yakju for a few days now and I can say no problems whatsoever.
At first I felt as if it was slightly Laggy, but that seemed to correct itself after a day or so. Not sure why, but the phone is just as quick as before now.
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I think the general consensus is that ICL53F is more laggy that ITL41F or ITL41D, so it is not a yakju vs yakjuux issue, it is a 4.0.1 vs 4.0.2 issue.
greeced said:
As for the radio, I wanted to stay completely stock, and that included the radio. So my phone is running the stock KK6 that came with the update, and I noticed my DBM levels are just as good as before if not better. So I don't feel the need to flash KL1.
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Radio performance varies with a huge number of factors. If you are happy with how one radio works, use it. If you want to see if another one is better, try it. If you don't like it, flash back. It takes all of 30 secs to flash a radio.
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When I was on my SGS, I always factory reset after every flash, which always seemed to speed up the experience of the new ROM.
I think that should be the case for all firmware updates, including googles.
It's a painful process to redo everything, but well worth it in my opinion.
I mean think about it, installing a fresh copy of windows always performs better than doing an upgrade of windows, so that should be the same here.
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If you believe this, then I suggest that you do not flash older builds and OTA update to a newer ones. This process adds more files to your ROM, and is not as clean as flashing the latest build from Google's factory image site.
When the next version of Android is released, the full version will likely be available on Google's factory image site shortly before OTA's for yakju start rolling out.* If you don't mind redoing your settings, apps, etc., it is better (and faster) to flash the full build, instead of updating your current build.
*My assumption based on release dates for previous versions.
Question efrant.
I relocked my bootloader purposely.
If I wanted to test other radios does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
If it does, no big deal, I just won't do it
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I have a Galaxy Nexus, its running 4.0.2, no mods, root or whatever.
I'm sseing a lot of people getting 4.0.4 updates since a few weeks already, but my device is not recieving it.
Is it normal? Should I be worried? How long may it normally take?
I'm exactly in the same situation you are, been waiting for the ICS 4.0.4 update since March 28th and still nothing. (Vodafone Portugal, fyi)
I've been reading the forums left and right trying to understand why and how to get the update and here's what I've gathered:
- You are running a ICS version which was compiled by Samsung so basically all the Over-The-Air updates will have to come from Samsung, instead of Google.
- If you wish to get ICS 4.0.4 you need to flash the official Google Images which can be found here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
If you do so, you will no longer receive updates from Samsung and will most likely always be on the latest version of Android.
Now the down side of it:
- Flashing stock images might require you to root your phone which results in loss of warranty (and I'm not 100% sure on this one so I appreciate someone to correct me if I am wrong)
- It will erase all of your personal data. From photos, to SMS's, wi-fi networks, to app-specific settings, etc.
How to do it?
There's a couple of threads around, here's one to start you with:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20310934&postcount=2
Hope it helped.
woah woah woah.....are you on verizon? if so, that is the problem verizons Gnex is still on 4.0.2 where all other nexus's are on 4.0.4 right now. you are just going to have to wait it out for a couple of weeks (i am guessing) or root and install a 4.0.4 ROM
if you are on a GSM network or a spring Gnex user...then there is an issue.
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Now the down side of it:
- Flashing stock images might require you to root your phone which results in loss of warranty (and I'm not 100% sure on this one so I appreciate someone to correct me if I am wrong)
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no it does not require root, just unlocking the bootloader, which will wipe the device. it is easy enough to relock. instead of fastboot oem unlock, its fastboot oem lock.
I have searched around before posting but can't seem to find anything definitive...so dont flame me!
Keen to try try JB on the Galaxy nexus however....
- I am stock,rooted Yakju IMM761
- I don't want to get into flashing frenzies....I prefer OTA's so I don't have to spend time reconfiguring things
It looks like the first devices for OTA's is takju and the hardware is no different from my yakju handset
If I flash a takju ROM to my device - I presume I am able to do this - will this make my device takju? Or does the hardware 'ID' remain the same?
I would take the 'hit' once to switch to the US Rom if I could use the OTA's for it going forward.
Confused....please help!
From what I understand, you won't be able to find the specific takju ROM required as it was only available to phones sold via Google Play and not updated to IMM76I (and the phones given to I/O attendees). However, there are other options like flashing a new ROM for example this. If you don't intend to keep JB on your phone permanently (and you're just wanting to test it), it's fine to just make a nandroid and then flash the JB rom and then flash back when you're done. Otherwise, you're pretty much stuck until Google releases an OTA for yakju. Personally, I just tried it for a day or two and then reverted back to my ICS nandroid.
Takju is just yakju with Google Wallet essentially and if you flash it, your device will be a takju device.
Sounds like I am best to hold off....as tempting as it is!
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However, there are other options like flashing a new ROM for example this.
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That is not a stock ROM though. This one is: [B]http://tinyurl.com/JRN84D[/B]
If you flash this one, you should be still on track to get future updates.
OK all, not looking for a silver spoon here, but, would appreciate some guidance...
Current Status of GN: STOCK 4.0.4 w/ unlocked bootloader (since day 1)
Target: JB 4.1.1 w/ all current applications settings, and data
I've been doing some reading of the forums trying to get a handle on how to proceed...but, much of what I'm reading doesn't take into account a phone full of data that must be retained. In other words, it doesn't start from a well-used device, backup, install ROM, and restore. This is what I'm in search of....someone that can guide me through the paces of upgrading but retaining what I currently have.
Does anyone have a link to a guide such as this or something similar? I do come from the land of OG Droid running Peter Alfonso ROM's and such, so, I do have that experience...and, I've already taken a full backup and a virtual SD card backup via the GNex Toolkit. So, I think I'm half-way there....just need a little reassurance that I can get things back once I upgrade.
Thanks for the help!
KSAT
KSATMobile said:
OK all, not looking for a silver spoon here, but, would appreciate some guidance...
Current Status of GN: STOCK 4.0.4 w/ unlocked bootloader (since day 1)
Target: JB 4.1.1 w/ all current applications settings, and data
I've been doing some reading of the forums trying to get a handle on how to proceed...but, much of what I'm reading doesn't take into account a phone full of data that must be retained. In other words, it doesn't start from a well-used device, backup, install ROM, and restore. This is what I'm in search of....someone that can guide me through the paces of upgrading but retaining what I currently have.
Does anyone have a link to a guide such as this or something similar? I do come from the land of OG Droid running Peter Alfonso ROM's and such, so, I do have that experience...and, I've already taken a full backup and a virtual SD card backup via the GNex Toolkit. So, I think I'm half-way there....just need a little reassurance that I can get things back once I upgrade.
Thanks for the help!
KSAT
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If you want to keep all your stuff, it'd probably be easiest to wait for an ota to be leaked. Once an ota gets leaked, you just put it on your sdcard, boot to bootloader, boot into clockwork(or similar) and install the .zip. Or you could try titanium backup. I'm not an expert on titanium though.
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If you want to keep all your stuff, it'd probably be easiest to wait for an ota to be leaked. Once an ota gets leaked, you just put it on your sdcard, boot to bootloader, boot into clockwork(or similar) and install the .zip. Or you could try titanium backup. I'm not an expert on titanium though.
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Yea, that was a thought - but, I'm NOT rooted at the moment. Only unlocked. So, I don't have any Recovery loaded and don't have Titanium Backup.
If your phone is GSM and yakju or takju, then you can simply boot into a temporary CWM image and flash the update file to 4.1.1. You'll retain all of your data.
If you're not yakju/takju (aka yakjuxw, yakjujp, etc.), then you're kinda out of luck unless you want to wait for the OTA for your particular version. If you're not yakju/takju, I recommend just biting the bullet and flashing to takju, so that you'll get the OTAs from here on out directly from Google. It's really the only way to go if you intend to stay stock and rely on OTAs rather than custom ROMs or hacks.
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If your phone is GSM and yakju or takju, then you can simply boot into a temporary CWM image and flash the update file to 4.1.1. You'll retain all of your data.
If you're not yakju/takju (aka yakjuxw, yakjujp, etc.), then you're kinda out of luck unless you want to wait for the OTA for your particular version. If you're not yakju/takju, I recommend just biting the bullet and flashing to takju, so that you'll get the OTAs from here on out directly from Google. It's really the only way to go if you intend to stay stock and rely on OTAs rather than custom ROMs or hacks.
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Thanks for the input. I'm not GSM, unfortunately. I'm on Verizon... So while it's not really what I wanted to hear, sounds like the best. Do you have a preference as far as current 4.1.x versions? Go with AOSP or sick to custom like Bugless Beast or similar?
Thanks for the input...
KSAT
KSATMobile said:
Thanks for the input. I'm not GSM, unfortunately. I'm on Verizon... So while it's not really what I wanted to hear, sounds like the best. Do you have a preference as far as current 4.1.x versions? Go with AOSP or sick to custom like Bugless Beast or similar?
Thanks for the input...
KSAT
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Since you're on Verizon (Toro) you're going to be waiting quite some time for Jelly.
And I'm not talking ****. Just stating the facts...I'm on Verizon as well.
I personally flashed the AOKP preview Jelly Bean build a few hours ago.
Seems clean thus far.
As far as not losing data and such...since you're not going to have to flash full images and erase your data you'll be golden if you follow post 2 of my guide.
(Linked in sig).
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Since you're on Verizon (Toro) you're going to be waiting quite some time for Jelly.
And I'm not talking ****. Just stating the facts...I'm on Verizon as well.
I personally flashed the AOKP preview Jelly Bean build a few hours ago.
Seems clean thus far.
As far as not losing data and such...since you're not going to have to flash full images and erase your data you'll be golden if you follow post 2 of my guide.
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Ha! Just got done reading that thread for the second time... (I'm sure your ass looks fine in those shorts btw).
I'll take another look at post #2 and see what I need to do. Thanks!
KSAT
Hi,
I recently installed JB and rooted my GN using this tutorial (youtube.com/watch?v=1y3Lm6feyGI) and a few other infos picked here and there (including xda). It worked perfectly. BUT here is the thing: I had a GN GSM (I'm in Europe) maguro/yakjuxw running 4.04. My goal was to install JB 4.1.1 JRO03C which I did (and it runs like a charm so far). Now, when checking in Google Maps the version, I find 'takju'.
My question is: is that 'normal'? I mean installing JB had to change the version or is it something wrong I did like picking the wrong file or option in the GN Toolkit? And when I'm at it, is a rooted GN able to use OTA (and should the GN running a specific version for that)?
Thank you guys
Eric
When you flashed to Jelly Bean, you used the images directly from Google, which made your phone "takju". That just means from this point forward you'll get updates quickly directly from Google.
Root doesn't block your ability to get an OTA. Taking the OTA will make your root go away unless you use an app like "OTA Rootkeeper". Things that will stop you from taking an OTA are a custom recovery, different radios, modified/deleted system files.
If you have custom recovery, you can keep it and flash the OTA manually and keep that custom recovery. You just can't accept and auto-install an OTA.
Changing variant does not effect you in any bad way. It gives you benefit of being ota from Google
So the answer is yes, don't worry about it
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel