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Epic or evo

Have two days left before I'm stuck with the epic. Just wondering if I'm making the right choice. I love the keyboard but I only use it for gaming. The screen is great but the software is lacking. Do you guys think that the evos hardware compares to the epics? The phone is fast but the gps sucks. Just trying to get some input from the other side.
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try the evo for 30 days
, you can root it, play with it, flash all you want and still return it to stock to return if you dont like

Well I walk own & walk around with both phones & even though on paper, spec wise the Epic beats the Evo, in real world use, the Evo is a better phone IMO with wayyyyy better support from Sprint, HTC & the devs on Xda. I hardly ever use my Epic.
No I'm not happy to see you but yes...that is a Evo in my pocket!

I would say the Evo, but maybe if you like a keyboard try the shift. Try the Evo for 30 days and if you don't like it stay with the Epic.

It is a nice phone but I just don't want to get stuck with a forgotten phone like I was with the pre. As far as the keyboard I use swype and I heard game gripper is coming out with a bluetooth game pad. If I knew for certain that samsung would update this phone and get rid of all its bugs I would prob keep it. I think my biggest prob is having to walk around my backyard trying to get a signal with gps.
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I'd go with the EVO, even before last weeks FroYo update fiasco. HTC's are more reliable, in my opinion. I just moved my wife from a Samsung moment to the EVO shift and she loves is. granted, it's not fair to make a comparison regarding the EPIC based on experiences with the Moment, which everybody will agree is not half the phone the EPIC is. But my experience with Samsung compared to HTC in general is that HTC is the far superior brand.

I would go with the evo. I have a friend who tried both and really just liked the evo better. The only thing that made me a little apprehensive at first was it was all touch, but I got used to it quick and would never go back.

hardware wise i think the epic is better, but its samsung who have proven they don't really support their newer tech and their UI skin isn't my favorite. The evo's aftermarket community is probably second only to the nexus phones and on par with the droid phones and the Evo is still sprints flagship android phone. Plus HTC build quality is nice and i like sense and it allows me to use it with my work email so for me its a no brainer

Evo without a doubt. If you are on these forums and are interested in future development, has to be evo. Samsung seems to be pissing a LOT of people off and it doesn't seem like there are really that many devs working on them.
HTC and EVO are the way to go IMO. All i can say is i have had my evo since launch day and i dont see a phone coming to sprint any time soon that will make me want to get new one. I LOVE MY PHONE...
And like people have said, Get the Evo, try it for 30. You will probably not go back to the Epic!

xlGmanlx said:
hardware wise i think the epic is better, but its samsung who have proven they don't really support their newer tech and their UI skin isn't my favorite. The evo's aftermarket community is probably second only to the nexus phones and on par with the droid phones and the Evo is still sprints flagship android phone. Plus HTC build quality is nice and i like sense and it allows me to use it with my work email so for me its a no brainer
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Htc build quality is nice? Let me hit what you're smoking lol. But seriously I'd go evo if you want to be a power user
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

My wife and I recently changed over to Sprint and at first, we both got Epics. Within my 30 days I changed to the EVO and I don't regret that choice for a minute. The factors in my decision:
1. I knew I was going to root and flash a new ROM anyway (CM7 is amazing) so I didn't care what it had to offer stock.
2. I hate having a physical keyboard.
3. I don't play games on the phone.
4. Display: the SuperAMOLED screen on the Epic is gorgeous, no doubt, and oh how I wish the EVO had one, but honestly it wasn't a determining factor for me, and it shouldn't be for anyone. You can tell that it's a different type of screen (sometimes you can see a little tracing) and the colors aren't as vibrant, but it's still a pretty display on the EVO.
Yes, the Epic has a better processor and GPU, but having had my EVO for a while now, it feels solid, which is important for me. My wife likes her Epic because of the "pretty screen" and the keyboard, but whenever I am doing something with it (installing something for her or whatever) it feels like a cheap toy compared to my EVO.

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Evo without a doubt. If you are on these forums and are interested in future development, has to be evo. Samsung seems to be pissing a LOT of people off and it doesn't seem like there are really that many devs working on them.
HTC and EVO are the way to go IMO. All i can say is i have had my evo since launch day and i dont see a phone coming to sprint any time soon that will make me want to get new one. I LOVE MY PHONE...
And like people have said, Get the Evo, try it for 30. You will probably not go back to the Epic!
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I second this. For the longest time I fell in love with this thing a little more every day. A few months ago we kind of got in a bit of a rut, then CM7 came out and she's more beautiful than ever (No CM7 for Epic). As everyone has said, there's no comparison between the two when it comes to development. A friend has the Epic and I taught her how to use it and have played around with it extensively and for me, my EVO is superior.
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Htc build quality is nice? Let me hit what you're smoking lol. But seriously I'd go evo if you want to be a power user
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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There were some build quality issues at the beginning (I swapped out my launch day unit due to screen separation) but I think they've got that all fixed. The Epic just feels to light and cheap to me.
For anyone who talks about the Epics faster CPU/GPU, how much of it can it really use while it's stuck with 2.1. This is my quadrant score running CM7 RC1. Granted, synthetic benchmarks aren't a totally accurate gauge of performance but I'm pretty satisfied with this.

op, remember where you are posting this...

I know, I posted in the epic forums to. I wanted to hear from both sides you can't make a decision on what just one side says.
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ausch30 said:
I second this. For the longest time I fell in love with this thing a little more every day. A few months ago we kind of got in a bit of a rut, then CM7 came out and she's more beautiful than ever (No CM7 for Epic). As everyone has said, there's no comparison between the two when it comes to development. A friend has the Epic and I taught her how to use it and have played around with it extensively and for me, my EVO is superior.
There were some build quality issues at the beginning (I swapped out my launch day unit due to screen separation) but I think they've got that all fixed. The Epic just feels to light and cheap to me.
For anyone who talks about the Epics faster CPU/GPU, how much of it can it really use while it's stuck with 2.1. This is my quadrant score running CM7 RC1. Granted, synthetic benchmarks aren't a totally accurate gauge of performance but I'm pretty satisfied with this.[/QUOTE
If I was going buy quadrant scores I'd just stay with this phone. I'm looking for real world usage
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If I was going buy quadrant scores I'd just stay with this phone. I'm looking for real world usage
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I don't disagree and I hate synthetics. I do know though that the performance of the EVO with all the development that's gone on since launch is competitive with the Epics performance.

Its just a really hard choice to make. If this phone ever gets the support it deserves it would rule. But that's a really big IF. With the way samsung is going I don't know if it will ever see a fully functional 2.2 prob never 2.3 or above like we all know the evo will
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Quadrant scores don't mean real world performance. You can have a regular setting and get "okay" scores, but throw on setcpu at max overclocking and take the test and have high scores, it just superficial and can't be accurate. But the Evo does have excellent performance while not being overclocked at all.

My wife and I have both. The key board can be nice but the evo wins everything else. My sister inlaw tried both and went with the evo and never looked back.
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It really just comes down to what you want out of your phone. If you want a phone with a phyiscal keyboard at least now the EVO Shift is an option!
As another member previously mentioned, I would take full advantage of the 30-day trial peroid. Just don't get too attached to the phone (unless you plan on keeping it)!

Evo 3d owners

Any buyers remorse? I for one so retreated upgrading my line and wished I waited a lousy month and a half more.

shook187 said:
Any buyers remorse? I for one so retreated upgrading my line and wished I waited a lousy month and a half more.
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definitely, i got the 3d on launch date.. was hoping for more but i just don't have the same feeling i did when i got the evo 4g.. so i will be getting the epic touch, but i'll also keep my 3d for the hell of it..lol

me did not like it
3d was not good
screen colors looked really bad
screen was tilted
bad viewing angles
bad camera
very meh phone
speed was not that great, the bionic was noticeably faster than it

Pitnefor said:
me did not like it
3d was not good
screen colors looked really bad
screen was tilted
bad viewing angles
bad camera
very meh phone
speed was not that great, the bionic was noticeably faster than it
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same way i feel, and i went in very open minded.. i gave it a huge chance hoping it would live up to the og evo but to no avail.

I'm just trying to figure a way I could land a epic touch. I have a OG epic and a 3D I'm sure one needs to be sold...decisions decisions

Some of you same guys will be saying the same thing about SG II when a newer better phone comes out lol. Some of you talking about the speed of the phone is slow. My Evo3d has never had a problem or any lag doing anything. Now if all you want to do is look at benchmarks and brag then I guess the SG II wins lol. But for day to day usage E3d runs fine. I'll take realistic looking colors vs over saturated colors where white look like yellow.
Not saying the SGII is a crappy phone, but I guarantee it will have its fair share of problems once the newness wears off lol

problems
I hate my 3d .... really sucks when you cant depend on the phone to stay on and just quit not responding so i can use it as an alarm ..... several times have had to reset phone because of not responding .... Evo 3d is a piece of junk ... they rushed it out and not even that fast quality control horrible at htc right now .

None here. Hated the 3d. It was a failure.. I wanted to love it but it had a few serious flaws I couldn't tolerate. Specifically the washed out screen and terrible reception
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!

I'm switching. Not happy with the 3D. Still skeptical of Samsung though.
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Yea I fins myself reading alot about this phone and I'm guessing I'm wanting it ..now like alot of other people I need to figure out a way to get rid of my e3d. To an ex 3d user ...is it worth the trouble of selling and paying the difference to get this phone? Is it really leaps and bounds better ? My phone functions fine so you guys saying the e3d sux ass and had problems need not answer
..I want honest opinions if it lived up to the hype ..also. wanted someone to compare the camera quality between the two

firmbiz94 said:
Yea I fins myself reading alot about this phone and I'm guessing I'm wanting it ..now like alot of other people I need to figure out a way to get rid of my e3d. To an ex 3d user ...is it worth the trouble of selling and paying the difference to get this phone? Is it really leaps and bounds better ? My phone functions fine so you guys saying the e3d sux ass and had problems need not answer
..I want honest opinions if it lived up to the hype ..also. wanted someone to compare the camera quality between the two
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I think you should just go to sprint and try it out. I went into my local sprint store and they had one. I was waiting to be wowed but I was not. Now that does'nt mean its a bad phone, its just not for me. I played with it for about 15 mins. There are some things I like about it but overall I'm sticking with the e3d. For one sammy should've used a qHD screen. After using the the e3d screen everything things else looks way too big on screen.
My GF has the og evo and she's using her upgrade to get the SGII so I'll have more time to compare.

It had the EVO branding so I was sold. My EVO 4G is still getting rommed to death by it's new owner and I got to use it today after a few months, it's still a beast of a phone...
...so I figured the EVO3D, while a peculiar way to follow up the 4G, would be a fantastic (of odd) continuation of it's legacy.
I couldn't have been more let down. Nothing is sacred at HTC. The screen aspect ratio of the Evo3D is downright offensive to me. My phone spends most of it's time in portrait mode...sure the resolution made up the difference so far as on-screen data is concerned I'm always constantly irritated by the aesthetic displeasure it caused me....but I swallowed that one, times they are a changin', right?
The next was the wonky power button behavior...doesn't always turn it on right, sometimes you need a battery pull, sometimes you wake up to a green light a locked up phone and a dead battery all at the same time.
And then the coup de grace, the signal strength is noticeably weaker than my EVO 4G....and I waited for an updated radio...and the past two radios just made it worse. Then HTC dropped the ball on releasing the (complete) kernel source, it's taken forever for CM7 and I'm sure it's because of HTC no cooperating...all the while Samsung is shipping unlocked phones and hiring Cyanogen himself.
After the NS4G I got for a week or two between all of the EVO 3D's I REALLY TRIED TO LOVE I realized that it was actually a very good phone. My faith in Samsung renewed.
I tried to love the EVO 3D...but I'm not a hopeless fanboy enough to eat that much trash and call it delicious. The phone sucks. There, I said it. I tried....
...and that's without mentioning that the UI experience on the 1ghz single core NS4G is MUCH smoother than a heavily modded 1800mhz dual-core EVO 3D....
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I think you should just go to sprint and try it out. I went into my local sprint store and they had one. I was waiting to be wowed but I was not. Now that does'nt mean its a bad phone, its just not for me. I played with it for about 15 mins. There are some things I like about it but overall I'm sticking with the e3d. For one sammy should've used a qHD screen. After using the the e3d screen everything things else looks way too big on screen.
My GF has the og evo and she's using her upgrade to get the SGII so I'll have more time to compare.
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I would agree with you more on that if it wasn't for the slew of random games and other apps that don't resize perfectly to the qHD. Sure, it IS the app's fault, but, the OS could handle it--and it doesn't yet...ICS I'm sure addresses this...but GB doesn't and I'm sick of waiting.
Will I be getting the Nexus Prime? Without a doubt...but I probably won't have a laundry list of reasons why the SGS2 sucked... I don't need to justify it, if I want it I get it. Period. The end. I would have been the same with the E3D if it didn't take so many opportunities to kick me while I was down.

I dont know how so many people have problems with their e3d but other than a few hiccups my phone has been fine. And thats the number 1 reason I will not install any custom roms because they usually come with problems that we spend some much time trying to fix. I had the og evo and I use to install a lot of roms. With lots of roms there were problems. With the new sense theres no need for me to install any custom roms. Apart from a few tweaks and themes I'm good.
Everything works on my e3d and I get great battery life

The evo 3d is a great phone for most people...
I personally and switching to the epic 4g touch tomorrow, and giving the 3d to my fiancee.
I am pumped for it.

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I dont know how so many people have problems with their e3d but other than a few hiccups my phone has been fine. And thats the number 1 reason I will not install any custom roms because they usually come with problems that we spend some much time trying to fix. I had the og evo and I use to install a lot of roms. With lots of roms there were problems. With the new sense theres no need for me to install any custom roms. Apart from a few tweaks and themes I'm good.
Everything works on my e3d and I get great battery life
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Honestly I think a lot of us got genuine duds...it seems almost all of us bought on release day. There was no prior platform-sister-model to the E3D. The EVO 4G had the Nexus1 that was nearly identical. The SGS2 has the entire worlds worth of SGS2s. The Shooter and Sensation were the first of that new platform.
But I'm on my 3rd E3D, though all still probably release day models, over the course of 3 months. I give up. I tried. I really did love the whole idea of the phone to start with.
So far as buggy roms goes it's usually pretty easy to tell genuinely buggy roms from solid roms with a few rare bugs...and the stock roms are not immune to bugs. I got more FC's on my bone-stock E3D than I ever got on a daily or RC of CM on my EVO 4G.
But to each their own. Though I've gotta ask, what are you doing here?

daneurysm said:
Honestly I think a lot of us got genuine duds...it seems almost all of us bought on release day. There was no prior platform-sister-model to the E3D. The EVO 4G had the Nexus1 that was nearly identical. The SGS2 has the entire worlds worth of SGS2s. The Shooter and Sensation were the first of that new platform.
But I'm on my 3rd E3D, though all still probably release day models, over the course of 3 months. I give up. I tried. I really did love the whole idea of the phone to start with.
So far as buggy roms goes it's usually pretty easy to tell genuinely buggy roms from solid roms with a few rare bugs...and the stock roms are not immune to bugs. I got more FC's on my bone-stock E3D than I ever got on a daily or RC of CM on my EVO 4G.
But to each their own. Though I've gotta ask, what are you doing here?
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You may have gotten a dud bro. Stock roms are not immune but custome roms do mulitply the chance of more bugs. Only time I got a FC on my stock e3d is if I restore certain app from titanium backup. And I'm here because like most of your guys I love technology and gadgets, plus my GF is getting the SGII tomorrow so I'll be sticking around.

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Some of you same guys will be saying the same thing about SG II when a newer better phone comes out lol. Some of you talking about the speed of the phone is slow. My Evo3d has never had a problem or any lag doing anything. Now if all you want to do is look at benchmarks and brag then I guess the SG II wins lol. But for day to day usage E3d runs fine. I'll take realistic looking colors vs over saturated colors where white look like yellow.
Not saying the SGII is a crappy phone, but I guarantee it will have its fair share of problems once the newness wears off lol
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Using the phones everyday I think they will be similar performance lol. The biggest difference will be in the screen lol.

This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!

devgrp said:
You may have gotten a dud bro. Stock roms are not immune but custome roms do mulitply the chance of more bugs. Only time I got a FC on my stock e3d is if I restore certain app from titanium backup. And I'm here because like most of your guys I love technology and gadgets, plus my GF is getting the SGII tomorrow so I'll be sticking around.
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Cool. No mal intent, honestly curious why someone who is a happy E3D owner would be here...now I know.
But, yeah, I think I got 3 (yes, three) duds...all HW001's, I'm sure that has everything to do with it. The 002's likely have a much lower failure rate and much higher tolerances.
I got FC's on every E3D I had from the music app on countless occasions, the youtube app all over the place, the browser....all reliably. In fact, until I flashed Synergy I was plagued by FC's. Again, I'm sure my hardware was at fault here.
FC's I can live with...it's no kernel panic, it's no blue screen and it happens fast and is absolved relatively fast (except for youtube which became unusable eventually...web-version, problem solved).
If the screen width (in portrait) fit my preference, if the battery life was phenomenal, if the signal strength/lock was good....any one of those...I could and would be able to completely ignore all of the things wrong with the device--and I haven't even begun. But sadly it was not to be.
Glad to have you on board either way.
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This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
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I know you...You know me...and you are saying what we both wanted to know: So it's true? Great signal strength/holding? Tower locking? higher roam-threshold?
I can't wait,.

My biggest complaints about the evo 3d:
1. Camera Quality (in 2D and 3D), 2D pics were grainy and i could not get nice 3d effects unless i tried really hard in perfect light, etc. 3d Pictures were just a blur otherwise.
2. Meh screen
3. Dropped calls and poor reception, dropped calls in my house all the time, never did with my EVO 4g. Palm Pre reception is poor too, but still better than the E3d. EVO Shift is also very poor in my house, but better than the e3d
4. Battery life was significantly better than a stock evo (Of course, not nearly on par with EVO 4g + my savaged-zen kernel lol), I made it through a short day with minimal-moderate usage. But of course, it is likely because of the poor signal I had in my house. (I'd roam in my basement, with the OG evo i always had a signal)
That's about it, I returned it 22 days after launch day (when i got it)
It had good things too:
1. 3D was very cool, except when I took my own 3d pics/videos I couldnt get it to look right, but movies/games/etc were all very cool.
2. Sense 3.0 is usable, maybe even a little better. I still prefer AOSP, but I absolutely hated sense pre-3.0 and couldn't stand it.
3. Very quick phone, not GS2 quick, but miles ahead of the OG Evo and most phones
4. Felt better built than the OG evo. I liked the flush battery cover
Bottom line, I didn't feel it was worth an upgrade so I returned it. It's just personal preference. I skipped on the photon because of the dated tegra 2 and lack of developer support. I waited WAY longer than i wanted to on the ET4g but I'm finally getting it tomorrow and I'm excited about it.
Oh yea, I got mine on launch day right when they opened lol. I see all the people talking about random reboots and software glitches/hardware glitches. I never had any of that it was very stable, it just wasn't for me

OG Epic 4G users - worth the upgrade?

Have had the original Epic 4G for about a year. Love the phone. Running Syndicate Rom v1.1.1 (EC05 froyo).
Things that I would like in an new phone: better camera, better battery life, reliable GPS.
Things that are holding me back: future compatibility, questionable updates from Samung.
Any og epic users made the jump? Any thoughts?

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I made the jump. Battery life is awesome. I used to go through two full batteries a day on the epic and now at the end of the day I still have like 30% battery left. Awesome. And the speed is not even comparable. My epic overclocked to 1.6 is not even close to this phone. Its worth it.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

Its definitely worth the jump. Just know that the sound quality on the og epic (even without voodoo sound) is better.
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I would have to agree with all of the previous posters. This phone is light years ahead of my OG Epic. My wife is still using the Epic and whenever I am updating her apps or checking out her phone, I am amazed at how much better the new phone is. Not to mention that I too was going through 2 batteries each day. Now I can make it all day with some to spare on a single charge.
JUMP!
HTH,
Chad H

Extremely happy I made the jump. And maybe it is just me and my old ears but I think the sound is better on the Touch then the Epic.

I was on SFR 1.2 running the Honeycomb Explosion and loved it on my Epic. The only issue I had was the now and again sleep of death that was infuriating. I went in to a store and doubtfully upgraded to the Touch. My fears lasted all of two minutes once I got my hands on the device. The speed, sound, the clarity, even the ability to customize are all awesome. I added GoLauncher and I'm amazed at how awesome this phone is. No regrets at all here.

I would say upgrade if you can cause this phone is amazing screen is beautiful without being at full brightness, way fast , camera is nicer etc... but it does feel like you really have to baby it cause it feels like its easily breakable/fragile wifi reception on the og epic is better..thats just imo either way i still got it as well

who came from the evo

so i was wondering how many of you guys came from the evo 4g, and what you guys like over the evo other than the amoled screen of coarse that is a no brainer, how the battery life been treating you so far i record it to be about the same 6 to 7 hours wish i could get more i might be upgrading to a bigger battery soon.

i'm actually wondering about switching in the other direction.
i know at least on paper, epic is a better device.
but it seems like evo owners are having more fun with their devs.
no knock on our devs... (thank you to all)
i know that they are working hard.
i was thinking about picking up an evo on ebay/craigslist... and playing around with it. any one on the fence?

Nope. Lack of a download mode kills it for me. I've already bricked my phone once with a bad flash. Thanks to a download mode, I was able to recover with ease using Odin. I don't think I would ever use a phone without one now, provided there was an option to get one with one.
That and the news on HTC phone logs that are easily viewable by others is a little shady. Shame on HTC!

I agree with the development very high seriously about 40 flashable roms downsise I hate sense love the g.b based rom cynogen etc... how ever I have noticed the super quick os versious evo just feels smoother even at 1 ghz plus evo highest o.c is 1.2 and I have seen 1.6 so I am happy with the change just need to figure out how to get better batt life cause it sux but again so does the evo
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Came from EVO 4G. Missing nandroid and the plethora of ROMs that were available for that device. The only reason I chose the Epic Touch over the 3D was for the extra memory. The screen is nice on this device but the resolution lacks behind the competition and I don't really care for the oversaturated look. Looks like both phones are "obsolete" anyway as we never got 4G in Detroit and it looks like we never will. I was really tempted to get the Motorola since I do travel occasionally and it would have been nice to have GSM capability. The lack of a gyro on that bothered me though since I like playing with google sky. It was pretty erratic running on the EVO 4G without the gyro.
Anyway I'm looking forward to the experience.

Sprint Exec confirms HTC EVO 3D ICS update in June

http://phandroid.com/2012/05/09/spr...ce-cream-sandwich-update-rolling-out-in-june/
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I know it's been out longer but, seriously, if that phone gets official ICS before us I'm gonna scream.

Wrong phone bro.

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Wrong phone bro.
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Not a bro lol and I know it's the wrong phone, that's my complaint. If the EVO 3D gets ICS before our phone it's gonna suck.
They at least have a time frame now, we still have heard nothing official.

Word bro lol
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Word bro lol
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I'm gonna hurt people lol

Why does it matter when the Evo 3D gets an official ICS update? If they get it out before samsung then good for HTC.
We already have perfectly usable ICS builds so why dont you just enjoy what we have and flash a leaked build if you want ICS.

Well the 3d gets ics a month after the new evo....so we get ics a month after the gs3.
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LordFan21 said:
Why does it matter when the Evo 3D gets an official ICS update? If they get it out before samsung then good for HTC.
We already have perfectly usable ICS builds so why dont you just enjoy what we have and flash a leaked build if you want ICS.
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Well you accidentally got a thanks, so you're welcome. lol
It doesn't really matter other than all these amazing ROMs we currently have will be even more amazing once the Devs have source to work with. That's the only part that matters and the 3D is a crap phone (I have experience with it so I can claim that).
Have the 3D forums been full of leaks? I mean we've gone through a ton of them so it would seem (to me) like surely we'd be one step closer, and maybe we are. I just noted that they now have a confirmed time frame whereas we've heard nothing concrete.
Okay you guys carry on without me, I'm going to do some testing.

Esoteric68 said:
I'm gonna hurt people lol
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Esoteric68 said:
Well you accidentally got a thanks, so you're welcome. lol
It doesn't really matter other than all these amazing ROMs we currently have will be even more amazing once the Devs have source to work with. That's the only part that matters and the 3D is a crap phone (I have experience with it so I can claim that).
Have the 3D forums been full of leaks? I mean we've gone through a ton of them so it would seem (to me) like surely we'd be one step closer, and maybe we are. I just noted that they now have a confirmed time frame whereas we've heard nothing concrete.
Okay you guys carry on without me, I'm going to do some testing.
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It's been out slightly longer and has lesser hardware. Of course they finished first on a crap phone they didn't have to try so hard on.

The Root said:
It's been out slightly longer and has lesser hardware. Of course they finished first on a crap phone they didn't have to try so hard on.
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Good point lol

Its not that its lesser its quite a powerful device but its com in faster cuz HTC is doing it not Samsung
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The E4GT is a better phone than the Evo 3D, but you'd have to be a fairly monumental idiot to say its a crap phone. I own both of these phones, my Evo is running a fully functional leaked ICS build. The 3d feature is useless but you obviously don't have to use it. Stock vs stock the Evo is pretty bad but with one of the custom roms and all the HTC sense 3.0 bloat removed and a highly optimized kernel the Evo pretty much matches or exceeds the raw performance of the GS2 in real usage and benchmarks (7500+ antutu, 4700+ quadrant, etc). The build quality is also far superior to the E4GT which is really plasticy and cheap feeling.
However the GSII camera is light years ahead of the Evo, the screen also looks way better despite its inferior resolution. The GSII's GPU also beats the Evo's by a good amount.
Yes the GSII is better, but the Evo is far from crappy.
On a side note, I also tried a leaked sense 4.0 build on the Evo from the one s. I've always been into AOSP but I gotta admit sense 4.0 is pretty nice. Considering I felt that sense 3.0 was the worst of all the overlays out there, HTC did well with the new Sense 4.0. Very nice looking, sleek and very very fast unlike sense 3.

And its getting pics officially before us lol
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I can sum up why it matters in two words... source.
See what I did there?:what:
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Hmmm pardon my ignorance but no I dont
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poweroutlet said:
The E4GT is a better phone than the Evo 3D, but you'd have to be a fairly monumental idiot to say its a crap phone. I own both of these phones, my Evo is running a fully functional leaked ICS build. The 3d feature is useless but you obviously don't have to use it. Stock vs stock the Evo is pretty bad but with one of the custom roms and all the HTC sense 3.0 bloat removed and a highly optimized kernel the Evo pretty much matches or exceeds the raw performance of the GS2 in real usage and benchmarks (7500+ antutu, 4700+ quadrant, etc). The build quality is also far superior to the E4GT which is really plasticy and cheap feeling.
However the GSII camera is light years ahead of the Evo, the screen also looks way better despite its inferior resolution. The GSII's GPU also beats the Evo's by a good amount.
Yes the GSII is better, but the Evo is far from crappy.
On a side note, I also tried a leaked sense 4.0 build on the Evo from the one s. I've always been into AOSP but I gotta admit sense 4.0 is pretty nice. Considering I felt that sense 3.0 was the worst of all the overlays out there, HTC did well with the new Sense 4.0. Very nice looking, sleek and very very fast unlike sense 3.
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Yeah I'm definitely far from a monumental idiot and I've owned a few HTC's, loved the OG EVO but I stand by my claim that, in my experience, the 3D was crap and I dropped it the second the E4GT came out. But I've made this claim countless times and I continue to stand by it. It was thick, clunky and the gimmicky 3D didn't impress. Oh, and one more thing and this bugged me even with the OG EVO, I HATE their protruding camera lens. So there. lol (now I'm using humor, don't get fussy)
If you like the phone then more power to you. Now I'm really going to bed. Night all.

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Yeah I'm definitely far from a monumental idiot and I've owned a few HTC's, loved the OG EVO but I stand by my claim that, in my experience, the 3D was crap and I dropped it the second the E4GT came out. But I've made this claim countless times and I continue to stand by it. It was thick, clunky and the gimmicky 3D didn't impress. Oh, and one more thing and this bugged me even with the OG EVO, I HATE their protruding camera lens. So there. lol (now I'm using humor, don't get fussy)
If you like the phone then more power to you. Now I'm really going to bed. Night all.
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Whether or not you think its "crap" or not is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that the Evo's hardware is far from outdated and indeed very robust. It's a solid well rounded phone. I also see absolutely no logic in your statement that because the 3D didn't impress, that it somehow makes the phone worse. It's an extra feature, nothing more. If you don't use it, the phone is like any other smart phone. The Evo 3d isn't a slim device but its by no means thick or clunky as you say (its 12mm vs the 10mm of the E4GT). You loved the OG Evo (which also has the protruding camera as you metioned) but claim the Evo 3D is garbage, yet the Evo absolutely destroys the OG Evo in everything from pixel density, build quality, camera, performance, Ram, software features, etc.
You are entitled to believe what you want of course but to any reasonable person it is quite nonsensical. It's like saying because the One X or Evo 4G LTE is out now, it makes the Galaxy S2 crap.

Not everyone is rooted lol. Some of us are waiting for official ics. After coming from the 3d to the e4gt ill never buy another evo. All 3 of my lines are eligible for an upgrade so my buddys are makin me offers lol
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The only problem i have with evos are that i cannot data roam on them
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