Has anyone experienced sudden rise of battery drain that is not related to firmware? I am facing issue with 9 months old battery, usually re-charged slightly with rare full cycles, that shows 4-5% drop per hour in standby/screen-off mode (all connectivity off). I have tried couple different clean ROMs installations without changes to this effect (Runnymede AIO v4.0, then v6.5 and less resource consuming Cyanogenmod 7.1 too). I tried to calibrate battery (at least in three different ways, with wiping battery stats etc) with no success. In desperation I did full cycle keeping device turned off for one night with charger plugged in, no results either. Battery starts at 100% and constantly goes down somewhere to 5-10% when it forces device to shut down.
I am curious why is that happening, especially that 3 months ago I could run for 2-3 days using phone from time to time, now on screen-off it cannot last more than one day? BTW I did not change my habits for last 2 months, I have not kept battery in freezing cold or kitchen oven when charging etc I would expect that Li-ion battery capacity degradation is constant and rather linear process.
Now I can look for someone that borrow me second battery for comparison, or I need to buy a new one (something like cheap Andida 1800mAh one).
Any other suggestions except for recycling the phone?
EDIT: Now I am completely astonished... saying "connectivity off" I meant everything except for regular cellular network. After switching to "airplane mode" my currently used runnymede AIO v4.0 drained battery only 1% per hour! First thought was "roaming problems" (because I came from Europe to Abu Dhabi / UAE in business last week) and I googled some complains on battery drains when traveling. I wish that would be a problem but I added another variable to the equation -- I installed MIUI ROM which gave me 1-2% per hour with GSM switched on. Radio is untouched when reflashing ROM, MIUI is close to Cyanogenmod (same kernels, also lightweights) but the latter was also sucking down on 5% level... so what is it? damn this pocket computers
cheers,
-andy.
To help others struggling with battery issues - mine is solved. It was roaming problem specific to United Arab Emirates !!! After returning home everything is fine, less than 1% per hour. Also roaming in Germany did not cause drain even though signal strength was on similar level as in UAE. Thread closed.
there is a thread for battery drain issues
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I'm surprised that nobody is mentioning the poor battery performance on the tilt 2.
I'm at 50 percent already with 8 hours standby (sleeping) and 2 hours of work.
I have my email update after every 15 minutes, and bluetooth on. No wifi.
Is it just this device or the ROM. I'd rather not say the ROM to implicate, but can we get an honest evaluation from Touch Pro users about how long their batteries are lasting??? Please.
hi, battery calibrations are lost when flashing roms. It is said to take a full discharge and full uninterrupted charge to restore these calibrations which cause reduced battery performance and also using the phone for a few days also helps too. I admit I would like to see better battery life generally, but its the price we have to pay for such a feature-rich amazing device.
Things like Lumous (auto back light software) can help out controlling how bright the backlight shines in certain scenarios. Setting backlight to switch off after 10 seconds and device to sleep after a minute can help out too along with not having 3G connected when not needed as with data connection, bluetooth, wifi etc.
Hope this helps out.
in regard sto battery calibrations, I have done that, and i have been with the same rom for 5 days
hmmm yeah I do know what you mean though about the performance of it, perhaps invest in a new battery, an extended one maybe? My TP2 lasts on average 2-3 days with some music playing, weather updating, not much calling, alot of texting and maybe some internet use.
same battery issues here with 6.5 stock rom but after hard reset
battery live is 30 hours with stil 2 stripes on batt indicator
pres green-red button-powerbutton read the message and then volume up.
Oh and I think the first battery loading is done 2 quickly the green Indicator after 1.5 hour was green < hold the device loading for 4 hours
yea i always perform a hard reset after flashing a new rom, i personally find the full discharge and recharge a good way to get things back to normal. However currently experiencing a max reading of 99% despite green light and it stopping charging. Have let it fully discharge until it turns off, and then left the device in bootloader to make sure the battery is completely dead and left it charge overnight but yet still only get such a reading. Perhaps when I flash an updated rom the reinstall may restore (which won't be too far away I'm sure, loving the Cell Pro series, thanks Sergio!)
There are a lot of reasons for the battery life to go down quickly. I have used many different ROMs (mostly cooked ones from the chiefs here) and have not found a lot of difference in my battery performance. It has been noted somewhere on this forum (room-mate read it somewhere here) that the stock radio on the tilt2 seems to be best battery life for most who have used it.
So to sum some things up:
- Version of radio
- how bright the screen is kept at all times
- number of applications running all the time (including auto updates for stocks, weather, push web pages, etc.)
- Temperature (going from a warm house to the cold outdoors)
- speed of processor
- size of screen/resolution
can all lead to shorter battery life.
Living in a rural area vs. downtown in a major city can also greatly affect your battery life. Most buildings will have cellular devices attached to them as companies receive some money from cellular companies for hosting their equipment. So battery life is much better downtown as the phone does not have to search as much for a lock on a good signal.
cd993 said:
yea i always perform a hard reset after flashing a new rom, i personally find the full discharge and recharge a good way to get things back to normal. However currently experiencing a max reading of 99% despite green light and it stopping charging. Have let it fully discharge until it turns off, and then left the device in bootloader to make sure the battery is completely dead and left it charge overnight but yet still only get such a reading. Perhaps when I flash an updated rom the reinstall may restore (which won't be too far away I'm sure, loving the Cell Pro series, thanks Sergio!)
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Never fully discharge the battery! Most all devices will use Li-lon batteries and when over charged or fully drained you can kill the battery. Most devices are intelligent enough to charge up to (approximately) 98% and only let the battery drop to no less than 2% of life before shutting off. I used to do support for HP notebooks, and when they introduced lithium-ion batteries, people would demand a new battery when it would not charge past 98%. This made them change the way the software was reading the battery to reflect the 98% to read 100% on a full charge.
There is a good link in the wiki for our phones... I'll give it free of charge this time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519673
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Never fully discharge the battery! Most all devices will use Li-lon batteries and when over charged or fully drained you can kill the battery. Most devices are intelligent enough to charge up to (approximately) 98% and only let the battery drop to no less than 2% of life before shutting off. I used to do support for HP notebooks, and when they introduced lithium-ion batteries, people would demand a new battery when it would not charge past 98%. This made them change the way the software was reading the battery to reflect the 98% to read 100% on a full charge.
There is a good link in the wiki for our phones... I'll give it free of charge this time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519673
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thanks for the info, will give that wiki a read!
My G2 gets ghastly battery life. I've tried Juice Defender and I've recalibrated more times than I can remember. Most notifications are turned off and I'm conservative about powering off the various radios when I'm not using them. It wasn't always like that. I felt like I was getting most of a full day on one charge and loving it for many months, but something happened last summer I think. Maybe dust or moisture affected the phone. I've got a total of six batteries and three external battery chargers. No battery whether it's the OEM original, 1500mah spares that were amazing before, or the new 1800mah evo shift 4g batteries I tried out, will last more than about four hours from full charge to the 15% warning sound.
I've tried only charging in the phone. I've tried rotating batteries charged in the external chargers. Like I said, I've tried calibration scenarios of various kinds.
Last night, I took a fully charged 1800mah battery and put it in my phone and then charged the battery in the phone. The orange led never turns green when the phone is off. When the phone is on, I can just barely get the led to turn green at about 91% (starting from what should be a full charge that is reported as 80% by the phone). This takes a good 10 hours of charging. As soon as I woke the phone this morning, the battery meter started dropping while the phone was still plugged in. After unplugging, the meter drops to 80% in a matter of a few minutes.
Like I said, I tried juice defender. It only helps a little but the cost is waiting for the data radio to reconnect every time I wake the phone. I thought BT was the culprit for a while, but now it really doesn't matter if I leave it on or turn it off.
At the other end of the charge, the phone can run for several hours when the battery is supposedly between 1 and 3%. I know we are told to start charging again at 15% but my phone drops to that level in 3-4 hours of regular use. I haven't seen the phone report 100% charge on any battery in six months time, but it runs and runs at 1%. This is what bugs me. Is the phone just mis-reading how many milivolts are coming out of the battery? Why can't I complete the first step of calibration (charge overnight to the 100% mark)? Is there a hardware component that can be causing this or should it be entirely fixable in software?
Thanks for any ideas or tips
Did you wipe battery stats?
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Did you wipe battery stats?
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Yes I have many times but thanks for the suggestion.
Figured so.. Too bad, would have been too easy. I'm starting to see some batttery drain on my desire z now too. Im wondering if mine is a radio issue.
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Figured so.. Too bad, would have been too easy. I'm starting to see some batttery drain on my desire z now too. Im wondering if mine is a radio issue.
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I changed radios and did RIL matching last fall based on other's comments about better battery life, 4G and GPS. While I've had faster GPS locks and maybe better 4G performance, my battery life did not improve. It may have even gotten worse.
Today I'm trying out some different CPU governor settings. The CM 7.2 RC1 default is 'interactive' and I wouldn't normally touch those settings. I think the powersave governor helped a lot, but the phone became almost unresponsive. Trying 'conservative' now. I should have read This long ago, but just got around to it today. I might invest in the SetCPU app as well.
OK, I can count on a good six hours of normal use if setCPU is holding down the max cpu frequency at night or when the screen is off. I'm still tweaking. Today, the phone crashed while playing music over A2DP and tracking a run with runkeeper. I think it needs to tick faster than 368Mhz when the screen is off.
Are you seeing improvement? I changed radios and like you havent seen much improvement. But I am a little better off than you are. My battery drain is terrible (1-3%per minute) only when connected to the internet (4g or wifi) or using navigation. If the screen is off, or if Im using non-internet apps I seem to get regular battery use. Good luck with your cpu settings.. I have ordered a new battery, but I doubt it will solve my issue. I may try tweaking my settings too soon, but Id better research more.
Just wondering do you have SuperCharger V6 installed? On my Desire Z I had some serious battery problems just as you mentioned. After I would flash my ROM (wiping the caches + reinstalling) my battery life would return to normal. But whenever I would flash SuperCharger v6 my battery life would spiral out of control. My suggestion for a ROM that handles battery life fairly well is Andromadus Audacity B2, just make sure you download and flash GAPPs (google apps). For example running that rom I have been getting very good battery life, approx. 16-20 hours of battery life with moderate use) with default CPU settings and data always turned on. I'm sure if you use Juice Defender to control your data you'll get above average battery life.
Note: Andromadus is an ICS (android 4.0) ROM
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Just wondering do you have SuperCharger V6 installed? On my Desire Z I had some serious battery problems just as you mentioned. After I would flash my ROM (wiping the caches + reinstalling) my battery life would return to normal. But whenever I would flash SuperCharger v6 my battery life would spiral out of control. My suggestion for a ROM that handles battery life fairly well is Andromadus Audacity B2, just make sure you download and flash GAPPs (google apps). For example running that rom I have been getting very good battery life, approx. 16-20 hours of battery life with moderate use) with default CPU settings and data always turned on. I'm sure if you use Juice Defender to control your data you'll get above average battery life.
Note: Andromadus is an ICS (android 4.0) ROM
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Thanks (and thanked) Ive been waiting till ICS roms are bug free and having working cameras, but I think I may just jump on it now. My battery issues are untenable at the moment on a CM7 based rom. Thanks for the advice.
I was seeing some improvement due to SetCPU profiles. However, now if I have GPS and Bluetooth on so that I can listen to music and track my run in runkeeper, the phone seems to 'crash' after about 35 minutes or so. The battery meter shows that the battery takes a nose dive and I think the phone shuts down at 1%. If I restart the phone, it might say I have 30 or 40% charge left but then it drops rapidly again. It seems like it hates the warmth of my pocket. If I let the phone out in the cool air like on my desk, I can reboot at get back to 60 or 70% even though it was just saying 3%. I'm not running SuperCharger.
I'm trying to find cheap G2s for parts on ebay now. Maybe I can at least test out my six batteries in a different phone to see if any of them are shot. They all seem to have the same problems in my phone.
This will be my final update. I bought a used G2 off ebay. The same batteries I used before now show as fully charged when I expect them to be fully charged. I will be getting a feel for general battery life over the next few days, but I expect battery life to be roughly the same. I just won't have to guess at what the current battery level really is.
I'm seeing now that the new phone will show a 60% charge when the old phone shows 15% for the same battery at about the same time.
The new phone shows 100% when topped off but if I put the topped off battery in my old phone, I see 75-80% charge.
I may try sending the old phone to HTC depending on what they offer for repair services.
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I bought a used G2 off ebay. ... the new phone will show a 60% charge when the old phone shows 15% for the same battery at about the same time
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I think what's happened to your old phone (and mine!) is that the onboard voltmeter chip is reading low. I've compared the on-board mV reading to a multimeter-measured battery voltage and what the phone reads as 3.9V the multimeter gets 4.2V (a fully charged Li-Ion battery).
Who knows what's behind it, but it seems like a hardware problem to me.
Ok so after a hard reset and at 100% charge my HTC Radar says 1 day and 15 hours remaining. It has been like that for a few days. After about a week, 100% charge results in 20 hours remaining life. Eventually after a few more charges it averages at 15-17 hours remaining battery life. That is a big worrying decrease. These figures are always noted after a 100% charge and leaving it to settle for a bit.
So I started thinking what could be causing this decreasing stand by time?
Two theories:
1. It must be an app as I got excellent stand by time from a hard reset and with no additional apps so maybe a particular app is playing with the battery meter?
2. Could it be leaving the phone over night plugged in is doing something to the battery? Maybe I should unplug it as soon as it gets to 100%?
The strange thing is it can't be the actually battery degrading over time as the phone is new. Also, I have recently flashed a custom ROM to my Radar at a point when stand by time was at 15 hours at 100% and after the flashed ROM the standby time went back up to 1 day and 15 hours. Something is not right. It must be an app.
Any other thoughts/theories or anyone else in a similar situation?
Discuss please so we can all learn something to hopefully solve this problem for other handsets too!
My guess: calibration. The system estimates your runtime based on previous runtimes, that's why it's getting lower. Did your phone actually ever run that long, btw?
yes it did. very very close. i was amazed.
and does it now actually run out faster? I have noticed this on my ipod. It used to tell me 1h battery remaining and it would run for another 3h until i got home and another 2h the next day (when I noticed I forgot to charge). Also, are you using your phone more now? The biggest battery drain is the display.
Remaining battery life is estimated as follows:
Immediately after being removed from the charger is based on previous usage charging.
After this time estimate is based on current consumption.
In the first week after hard reset or install ROM the period are recorded in the system.
After a year of use of personal phone (HD7) and trying different rom and different settings for gps, 3g, edge, and light i found that the consumer eating large battery . After a more detailed study will say that is the main consumer.
Thanks for your comment Ovi but this is not about how the consumer is wasting the battery by usage. The question I raised was about how the standby time varied at 100% after a hard reset and after weeks of usage at 100%. The stand by time decreased without using the phone after a full charge. That is what is puzzling me. In theory it should be the same stand by time no matter how long the phone has been owned and the rate of discharge is due to usage - agreed.
Hello,
I've read the threads about battery in the desire, BATT FIX with new kernels etc but can't really find a definite answer for my problem.
I bought my phone 18 months old and from the beginning it has shut down at about 20%. Tried the battery thing with charging, on/off, charing again etc, wiping battery stats etc but it doesn't seem to matter. So, I thought I'd just buy a new battery and be done with it.
The new battery arrived yesterday (actually, it's a used battery from customer returns but seller tells me it's been tested to be in mint condition). So this battery shows 3% when I first start up with it, "good, this seems to work" I think. But when at 75% the charger indicator (LED light) all of a sudden turns green and battery % jumps straight to 100%. I do the battery calibration trick with on/off charge and wipe battery stats. Stuck at 100% for some time as reported by others trying this "trick", have been using it all day and it shuts down at 25% even worse than the other battery...
The best voltages I've seen on this supposedly new battery is 4,144 and somewhere above 3.5 (nowhere near 3.2 and 4.2). What strikes me as odd is that I get very close to the same values with my old battery so I'm starting to think that maybee both battery are good but the phone reports way wrong values...is this possible?
Battery life with phone and data connection on, 1 gmail account but disabled backup feature (no GPS, BT etc) gives me -5% after 10 hours standby and I can use the phone for browising, light gaming for about 3 hours and 40 minutes before it dies (more or less constant usage at very low autobrightness levels and Turbo 3G enabled).
If someone has some insight into this it would be really helpful before I contact the eBay seller for this particular battery.
Regards, Olle
Same thing
My phone shuts down at 35% now... Is that a problem with the chipset or what? Only with Alex-V's calibrated kernels my phone shuts down at 0%, and sometimes it decalibrates too, but after calibration is Okay. I wonder if i need a new battery or my chipset has issues.
Hi All,
I am having troubled battery stat since I last flashed to a custom rom.
The battery will NOT reach the CHARGED status, and hence the battery stat did not reset and go on for days.
This morning I have decided to do a full wipe, but it appear that the same problem persist, at 68% on AC (most of the time stop at a random value) , it says NOT Charging.
I also thought that it could be the battery that was giving the problem, so i tried with a spare battery that i have, same results. Even when i Swap battery the stats stays.
Screenshot of battery stat. with AC power connected after a full wipe
Many people (myself included) have been having similar issues as of late. I too have separate batteries, neither of which is older than 6 months, and both exhibit similar behavior. I'm sure you've looked through and perhaps saw these threads, but I am trying to shed more light on the issue as it is perplexing many.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1794231
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080383
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2059289
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973097
my troubles started soon after i flashed my first 4.2 rom. it started with only charging to 90%, now my one battery gets to 68% while my other only gets to 65% (30% loss in the past month). I am hoping an explanation comes up soon.
I had the same problem too, but for me the solution was switching between a few roms and calibrating my battery (wiping the battery stats). What ROM are you using?
I am on paranoid android, it was working fine until i did beta 8... and never able to do again..
what rom did you switch around to get it fixed?
Does anyone know any certain solution for this problem ?
After 4.2 upgrade , my battery gets to about 80 % and everyday It decreases
It bothering me and since in my country Google has not any agency for warranty replacement or repair,I'm gonna sell my Gnex if It problem goes on !
It's really strange. I have the same problem also, using either the official Apple 5v @ 1amps charger or a samsung charger with the same specs my phone only goes to 98% 99%, but when I use a generic charger ( I only used a 1-2 times with GNex) that's rated 5.2 volts (scares me) at 800mah it reaches 100%, as it does with the PC also.