[Q] help please, I think I bricked my phone - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone, this is my first post, and I'm completely baffled and think I may have bricked my phone. Here is exactly what happened.
I've been running syndicate rom with vision kernel on my samsung epic 4g on sprint for a very long time. I've been getting the upgrade notification for months, so I finally decided it was time to upgrade. Unfortunately, the way I decided to upgrade was to go back to stock, and then let it naturally upgrade. I followed the instructions at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
and, the first time I tried to odin, it was stuck at "setup connection", so after waiting a very long time, I unplugged, then re-started odin. because I used the instructions at the above link, I had re-partition, auto-reboot, and reset time checked. This time, odin was able to get past "setup connection", and was stuck on "datafs.rfs" in odin, and on the phone, it no longer showed a downloading logo and looked like it was just off. I unplugged again, and this time, I could not easily get the phone into download mode. I tried a few things with the battery in, with it out, and finally, somehow, got it into download mode again. Trying odin 1.61, I tried again, it got stuck on datafs.rfs again, and after waiting a very long time, I unplugged again.
Now, I believe my phone is bricked. The following is true of my phone right now:
it does not turn on
it does not have any lights when plugged in
if plugged in, it will not go into download mode
if on battery, i can take out the battery, then put it back in, then i can go into download mode, but when in this mode, windows reports an unrecognized usb device. if the battery is in from when it was plugged in, it will not go into download mode. the battery must be popped out and then put back in to go into download mode.
terrible timing too, as my wife is expecting, and she'll most likely need to get in touch with me in the next week or two. If anyone can help me get my phone working again, that would be amazing. Thanks in advance for your help.

dmachine2 said:
Hi everyone, this is my first post, and I'm completely baffled and think I may have bricked my phone. Here is exactly what happened.
I've been running syndicate rom with vision kernel on my samsung epic 4g on sprint for a very long time. I've been getting the upgrade notification for months, so I finally decided it was time to upgrade. Unfortunately, the way I decided to upgrade was to go back to stock, and then let it naturally upgrade. I followed the instructions at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
and, the first time I tried to odin, it was stuck at "setup connection", so after waiting a very long time, I unplugged, then re-started odin. because I used the instructions at the above link, I had re-partition, auto-reboot, and reset time checked. This time, odin was able to get past "setup connection", and was stuck on "datafs.rfs" in odin, and on the phone, it no longer showed a downloading logo and looked like it was just off. I unplugged again, and this time, I could not easily get the phone into download mode. I tried a few things with the battery in, with it out, and finally, somehow, got it into download mode again. Trying odin 1.61, I tried again, it got stuck on datafs.rfs again, and after waiting a very long time, I unplugged again.
Now, I believe my phone is bricked. The following is true of my phone right now:
it does not turn on
it does not have any lights when plugged in
if plugged in, it will not go into download mode
if on battery, i can take out the battery, then put it back in, then i can go into download mode, but when in this mode, windows reports an unrecognized usb device. if the battery is in from when it was plugged in, it will not go into download mode. the battery must be popped out and then put back in to go into download mode.
terrible timing too, as my wife is expecting, and she'll most likely need to get in touch with me in the next week or two. If anyone can help me get my phone working again, that would be amazing. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Windows not recognizing a device means you don't have the proper drivers installed. I'd link them to you but I'm at work on my phone. Search google for samsung epic drivers. Or i believe you can even get them from samsung's website.
And Congratulations on the new baby.
Sent from a CM9 powered Epic.

the link you posted has all the best instructions. Do not skip a step or circumvent any. Use the file links he has provided. And use Odin 1.85.
Take the battery out of your phone let it sit for at least 20 minutes, leave the battery out plug it into computer and attempt to get it into download mode.
Very important your not using the Samsung stock charging cable to do this. You need a good USB cable, one like the Blackberry phones come with, which is designed for heavy data transfer
Good luck.
Sent from my MTD Epic 4G SGS using Tapatalk

The problem and the cause of your woes is a faulty cable. Get a heavy duty blackberry cable and try again. This time leave the battery out, using the cord as power put it into download mode with Odin already up on the computer and make sure to use the same port that it has been working in.

kennyglass123 said:
The problem and the cause of your woes is a faulty cable. Get a heavy duty blackberry cable and try again. This time leave the battery out, using the cord as power put it into download mode with Odin already up on the computer and make sure to use the same port that it has been working in.
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Hey I said the same exact thing....:thumbup:
Sent from my MTD Epic 4G SGS using Tapatalk

edfunkycold said:
Hey I said the same exact thing....:thumbup:
Sent from my MTD Epic 4G SGS using Tapatalk
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I know...saw it after I posted...lol. Plus you included the best link..nice!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

I actually tried a differnt cable because of the original link the first time, and that didn't work at all (used my wife's evo shift cable). But, I did find yet another micro usb cable in the house, and that one does seem to be working. Although, the odin flash does not seem to be, seems to be hanging (and the phone shows just blue across the entire screen), but that is progress =) Thanks for the tips everyone. I'll post my findings if I am successful in un-bricking. (or post where i get stuck next =P) Thanks again everyone.

When you get stuck again, Odin with the battery and sd card out.

Already took the SD card out. I can't go into download mode with just the cable though (already tried). Any recommendations? To get into download mode currently, I have to:
unplug everything
take out the battery
pop the battery back in
then, 1+power to download mode.

dmachine2 said:
Already took the SD card out. I can't go into download mode with just the cable though (already tried). Any recommendations? To get into download mode currently, I have to:
unplug everything
take out the battery
pop the battery back in
then, 1+power to download mode.
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Sounds like either the cable still has issues or the USB port is not properly powered. If a desktop, use the USB ports in the rear right on the motherboard. I see you have had different results from different cables already, if you can just get ahold of a heavy duty Blackberry or Palm Pre cable.

How long should I wait before re-trying a new flash? It's been stuck on cache.rfs for the past 2 or 3 hours. I'll try the back usb port instead of front usb ports. I'll also try a palm cable, I think I have one lying around somewhere. Thanks for the tips.

dmachine2 said:
How long should I wait before re-trying a new flash? It's been stuck on cache.rfs for the past 2 or 3 hours. I'll try the back usb port instead of front usb ports. I'll also try a palm cable, I think I have one lying around somewhere. Thanks for the tips.
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Yeah, it is time to try again with those tips. 15 minutes is max.

SUCCESS!!
Following the original link, what I had to do was:
I plugged into rear usb
still wouldn't go into download mode, so unplugged, popped in battery, went into download mode, plugged in
started odin 1.61 (as in the trouble shooting part of the original link)
Used EC05 rom (as in the trouble shooting part of the original link)
my phone is back from the dead! Thanks for the help everyone.

Congrats man!

nice!
+10 char

Just got back here and I also am glad you got it going. Congrats! These Epics are almost unbrickable...
Sent from my MTD Epic 4G SGS using Tapatalk

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AT&T Tab Black Screen/White Line During Bootup Fixed

I took my stock AT&T tab and wiped it then flashed Roto JME-4. When I rebooted, I had a black screen for about 60 seconds, with a skinny white line, and I could hear the samsung music. After about 1.5 minutes, I pressed the power key, and screen went totally black - no line. Then I pushed power again, and everything was normal after that, unless I rebooted.
Anyway, here is it fix:
1) go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899196 and download the jj4bootloader.zip file
2) use odin to flash the unzipped jj4 file. It goes in PDA and nothing else in any options.
3) upon reboot, you will have a 100% normal startup with logo and music.
I used the Bootloader Patch app to check this, and it reports it is safe, and that I can flash anything.
Thanks to Roto, Chain Fire, and alexnoalex
Ok, so, just to be sure I'm not going to break my Tab, doing this ONLY changes/fixes the boot animation etc. (get's rid of the AT&T stuff, and puts in the Samsung stuff).
To be clear, I just flashed Roto's latest Euro firmware (Baseband P1000XXJMA, Build FROYO.XXJME), so performing this fix won't affect/change ony of this stuff right?
If I have to re-flash everyting from scratch, then it's really more trouble than it's worth (Blank screen at bootup? Big deal... It's just at boot right? Everything else works perfectly!)
I wish rotohammer and other rom devs would include this information clearly in their initial posts. Took me awhile to find this fix but it works well. This is also important because you can't see the recovery screen without it.
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
If I have to re-flash everyting from scratch, then it's really more trouble than it's worth (Blank screen at bootup? Big deal... It's just at boot right?
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This is just a quick 30 second flash thru odin, it only repairs the black screen, and doesn't touch anything else!
The developers took out the sound and logo to make the rom file size correct.
That's just the answer I was looking for! Thank you good sir!
Glad I could help.
Hello, I have the same problem but I cannot flash the zip file because my computer doesn't detect the tab when I'm in download mode. I tried updating the drivers and software and it still doesn't want to detect it. I cannot get into recovery mode because of the black screen/white line. Do you know what I can do to get my computer to detect my TAB? I tried searching the forum but could not find any info that helped. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!
AT&T SGH-i987
Firmware 2.2
Baseband P1000XXJHA
Kernel 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #19
Build Froyo.XXJMA
Are you using windows xp, or 7? Put the tab in download mode before you connect to the computer. Is your tab set to usb debugging mode?
I used Win XP, Windows 7 x64 and x86, non of them worked. They can detect my Galaxy S I9000 phone but not my TAB. Yes, I tried it with both debugging on and off, it still doesn't work. Could it be the kernal's fault? Maybe the cable? It will charge the TAB but for some reason my computer won't detect it.
Try different usb cables and ports on the computer.
I tried a different wire and usb ports and it's still not working. I just realized the TAB is not charging anymore. It doesn't make the charging sound when I plug it in. Figured out it's not the cable because it worked on another TAB. Could it be the firmware or kernal?
Not charging when plugged in the computer, or in the wall outlet? Plug it in the wall for at least for hours to get a full charge.
It charges if I plug it into the wall but its very slow like when you charge it via usb. Im using the original charger and cable. There is an x next to the charging/lightening icon on the top when I plug it into the wall and computer.
Just let it charge all night. Be sure its off when charging.
What's the point of having it fully charged? How will that help? My computer still won't detect it even if it's fully charged. I need help to get my computer to detect it so I can restore the original firmware.
I have seen five problems like yours, and after a complete charge, then reboot the phone into download mode, the problem cleared up. They used a different usb port also.
Go to windows update and update your pc.
Look a few threads further down named «help help help»
Ok its currently 50% now. Ill let you know once its fully charged. Thanks for your help so far.
Its 100% and my computer still doesn't detect it. Now what?
Did you have a chance to see the thread “help help help"?
This will sound crazy, but double check your cable - recently someone had the same trouble, because they had dust in the cable connector.
I cannot see the thread you're referring to.
Yes, I did tried a different cable and it's still the same.

[Q] hey odin flash guys, I need help

Impatient EB13, tried to ODIN DI18... pulled the plug after 5 minutes of no progress. Got a "smart phone ! CPU" image and decided to ODIN the pre rooted EC5... I've been waiting for 30 minutes now. What should I do?
if you have used odin before then just start over and do it till it works and i suggest you stick to EB13 for now
Pull the battery, try a different USB port, and/or cable.
Stock cable sucks for data transfer. Really only good for charging. Same with USB ports on the front of your computer. Its really better to use a different cable plugged in to a port in the back of your computer.
elrey75 said:
Impatient EB13, tried to ODIN DI18... pulled the plug after 5 minutes of no progress. Got a "smart phone ! CPU" image and decided to ODIN the pre rooted EC5... I've been waiting for 30 minutes now. What should I do?
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Of course we assume you are in download mode and a com port shows up in Odin.
watermoore said:
Stock cable sucks for data transfer. Really only good for charging. Same with USB ports on the front of your computer. Its really better to use a different cable plugged in to a port in the back of your computer.
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When I first got my Epic I saw so many posts like this that I went down and got a BB cable. Since then I use the stock cable to ODIN all the time. I think using a back mounted port is much more important than blowing $ on a cable.
Yeah, I followed all directions and downloaded the necessary files. Tried all recommendations but once I saw the "phone ! Cpu" I couldn't get it past image.xxx in odin. Took it in to a sprint service center and they had no remedy so they gave me a new one, not refurbished. And wouldn't you know it... EB13... How? Why? I have no idea. Thanks for the help, I'm staying put.
Sent from my original EPICS' step brother...

[Q] Unable to Odin/CWM restore

I have had my Epic for few months now, and have yet to encounter this error. Today both my parents decided to buy the Epic's (woot 3 epics in the house), and so I go and try to Root it for them. I go to the first one, and put CWM 3.1.0.1 on it. Everything goes fine, I reboot into CWM, everything dandy, shutdown and go into download mode (Hold 1 then press power button), done this many times. But here came the problem. Odin has failed during the flash and now the phone shows (Phone ---- ! ---- Computer) display when I try to boot it up or try to go into CWM. So I have tried Odin again with download mode, I did get the yellow download screen, but Odin keeps failing. I have tried different USB ports/cables. Different pit files and modems, including EB13, EC05 and EH06. And I am sure the files work, as I have just tried the second phone, and everything went fine. ... So yeah... uh... Attached are two screenies.
This is my Odin Print out
And this is the screen I get
NVM, got it to work using this :
kennyglass123 said:
There is still hope. Take out the battery and hold the power button for 30 seconds. Leave the battery out and plug the USB into the computer and then hold the "1" key on the keyboard and then press and hold the power button. It should get you back into download mode.
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Glad you got it fixed!
(And that you searched, albeit after posting XD)
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Thank you for that post. Kids loaded some stuff on my notebook and it froze during Odin. Just happened to happen on this thread and Viola. Download mode accessed, Odin fixing.
I was about to go to Sprint today.
I love XDA.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
Hey that was my quote...YAY!
Glad you got it fixed dude!
Well, the true fix for me is the Battery is bad somehow... I can Odin like nothing if I take the battery out, but the second the battery is in and I try to Odin, it Fails... is this the case for you guys?
shiroimin said:
Well, the true fix for me is the Battery is bad somehow... I can Odin like nothing if I take the battery out, but the second the battery is in and I try to Odin, it Fails... is this the case for you guys?
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I think that is caused by whether your computer has a powered or non-powered USB port.
no, because I have Odined 2 other Epics on the exactly same cable and same USB port, so it has nothing to do with that. It was truly just the battery.
shiroimin said:
no, because I have Odined 2 other Epics on the exactly same cable and same USB port, so it has nothing to do with that. It was truly just the battery.
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Did you try swapping the battery from the other Epic and see if it truly is interfering somehow?

Bricked My Nexus / Bad USB Connection

I just wanted to share what happened before it was bricked so others could possibly avoid it (and because I didn't think I could brick a Nexus...).
Yesterday my USB connection began failing intermittently. It would charge, but the computer would not always recognize the device. On Windows 7, I got an error message saying that the device had malfunctioned and that I should try reconnecting it. On OSX, Android File Transfer could not find my device. Unplugging and plugging back in got the computer to recognize it about 20% of the time.
I went back to stock using fastboot, but I had to battle with it for several hours because of how unreliable my USB connection was. On stock I still had the problem, but I wondered if I had just gotten unlucky during flashing since I had so many failed attempts. Then I decided I would try again with Odin since it just takes one flash to go back to stock. Unfortunately, my USB connection failed again during the Odin flash. I pulled the battery (this could be the true problem but I couldn't get the flash process to start over otherwise) and at this point my phone was bricked. The screen showed an image with a phone and a computer with an exclamation point between them. I couldn't get to my bootloader and couldn't try any other fixes because my computer would no longer recognize my phone at all.
Long story short, if your phone's USB connection begins to malfunction then don't use Odin.
Sorry to hear that. This is something I learned (second hand, thank god) when I had my Galaxy S1. Odin can simultaneously be the best and worst tool you use.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
ericaraj said:
I just wanted to share what happened before it was bricked so others could possibly avoid it (and because I didn't think I could brick a Nexus...).
Yesterday my USB connection began failing intermittently. It would charge, but the computer would not always recognize the device. On Windows 7, I got an error message saying that the device had malfunctioned and that I should try reconnecting it. On OSX, Android File Transfer could not find my device. Unplugging and plugging back in got the computer to recognize it about 20% of the time.
I went back to stock using fastboot, but I had to battle with it for several hours because of how unreliable my USB connection was. On stock I still had the problem, but I wondered if I had just gotten unlucky during flashing since I had so many failed attempts. Then I decided I would try again with Odin since it just takes one flash to go back to stock. Unfortunately, my USB connection failed again during the Odin flash. I pulled the battery (this could be the true problem but I couldn't get the flash process to start over otherwise) and at this point my phone was bricked. The screen showed an image with a phone and a computer with an exclamation point between them. I couldn't get to my bootloader and couldn't try any other fixes because my computer would no longer recognize my phone at all.
Long story short, if your phone's USB connection begins to malfunction then don't use Odin.
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There is a chance it's not totally bricked, that happened to me on an other samsung device while i was flashing with odin. U pulled the battery too early.i also had that black screen with the yellow pc and exclamation mark, try another usb port in ur pc and try to flash again with odin, if not, take the battery out and keep it out for a while (i don't know, 30min for example) then try odin again... u should be able to enter download mode somehow despite the screen u got now.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
ericaraj said:
I just wanted to share what happened before it was bricked so others could possibly avoid it (and because I didn't think I could brick a Nexus...).
Yesterday my USB connection began failing intermittently. It would charge, but the computer would not always recognize the device. On Windows 7, I got an error message saying that the device had malfunctioned and that I should try reconnecting it. On OSX, Android File Transfer could not find my device. Unplugging and plugging back in got the computer to recognize it about 20% of the time.
I went back to stock using fastboot, but I had to battle with it for several hours because of how unreliable my USB connection was. On stock I still had the problem, but I wondered if I had just gotten unlucky during flashing since I had so many failed attempts. Then I decided I would try again with Odin since it just takes one flash to go back to stock. Unfortunately, my USB connection failed again during the Odin flash. I pulled the battery (this could be the true problem but I couldn't get the flash process to start over otherwise) and at this point my phone was bricked. The screen showed an image with a phone and a computer with an exclamation point between them. I couldn't get to my bootloader and couldn't try any other fixes because my computer would no longer recognize my phone at all.
Long story short, if your phone's USB connection begins to malfunction then don't use Odin.
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Your phone is not bricked. This happened to me on my Vibrant countless times. Not it's basically trial and error to get it to show up on Odin, but use a reliable USB connection, like another port on your PC or something. Trust me, you're fine. I was ****ting myself when this happened for the first time, but it's just like download mode, you can still restore to stock.
rayiskon said:
There is a chance it's not totally bricked, that happened to me on an other samsung device while i was flashing with odin. U pulled the battery too early.i also had that black screen with the yellow pc and exclamation mark, try another usb port in ur pc and try to flash again with odin, if not, take the battery out and keep it out for a while (i don't know, 30min for example) then try odin again... u should be able to enter download mode somehow despite the screen u got now.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Even if he can't enter download mode, if Odin recognizes the phone while the screen with the exclamation mark is up, he'll be fine.
iCaptivate said:
Your phone is not bricked. This happened to me on my Vibrant countless times. Not it's basically trial and error to get it to show up on Odin, but use a reliable USB connection, like another port on your PC or something. Trust me, you're fine. I was ****ting myself when this happened for the first time, but it's just like download mode, you can still restore to stock.
Even if he can't enter download mode, if Odin recognizes the phone while the screen with the exclamation mark is up, he'll be fine.
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I had a feeling that it wasn't truly bricked, but since my phone's USB driver (or whatever aspect of USB data transfer) was malfunctioning I couldn't do anything about it. I think of it this way: if in that state my phone had a 5% chance of being recognized by Odin, and if my phone already had less than a 20% chance of being recognized before the soft-brick, then I had a 1% chance or less that it would even show up in Odin and even lower odds at a successful flash. Regardless, Verizon agreed to send me a warranty replacement.
iCaptivate said:
Your phone is not bricked. This happened to me on my Vibrant countless times. Not it's basically trial and error to get it to show up on Odin, but use a reliable USB connection, like another port on your PC or something. Trust me, you're fine. I was ****ting myself when this happened for the first time, but it's just like download mode, you can still restore to stock.
Even if he can't enter download mode, if Odin recognizes the phone while the screen with the exclamation mark is up, he'll be fine.
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Same here with the vibrant. IIRC there was a special way to get your phone to recognize Odin when it happened. Something like plugging in the phone to the computer and then pulling the battery. Odin even worked when I borked a flash and the screen wouldn't even turn on. I would think the nexus could be brought back similarly.
But if the USB port is on the fritz I'm not sure I would want to bring it back.
As far as I'm concerned Odin is the worst thing you can hook up to your devce. No single program has bricked more devices than Odin.
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Just Flash It !!!
on my old SGS1 there was chance get back bricked device by method called "JIG"..(its hardware way get back download mode) but i dont study it more...
I don't think its bricked, I once restore my phone from a black screen that Odin still recognized as download mode. The drivers can get iffy, do you have a third comp that you can install fresh drivers on. Also is your USB jack on the Nexus loose? Sometimes it really is due to your PC's USB connection. I also had issues with cheap blackberry cables and had to use higher quality ones.
Did you try going into download mode by connecting it to the PC while with battery removed and hold (whatever buttons to boot it into download mode), then insert the batteries. Or try entering using a jig.
Also a bit lazy of me (on phone), but can someone point me to where to get Odin images for the Nexus?
try to use another cable to connect ur phone to pc
just flash stock via odin, it's not bricked.
My s2 sometimes has that problem when i flash stock
eksasol said:
I don't think its bricked, I once restore my phone from a black screen that Odin still recognized as download mode. The drivers can get iffy, do you have a third comp that you can install fresh drivers on. Also is your USB jack on the Nexus loose? Sometimes it really is due to your PC's USB connection. I also had issues with cheap blackberry cables and had to use higher quality ones.
Did you try going into download mode by connecting it to the PC while with battery removed and hold (whatever buttons to boot it into download mode), then insert the batteries. Or try entering using a jig.
Also a bit lazy of me (on phone), but can someone point me to where to get Odin images for the Nexus?
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I appreciate the advice but I no longer have that phone. My replacement should come today.
With regards to the drivers, I was referring to the drivers on the phone not on the computer. I honestly don't know if there are USB drivers on the phone (I would think there are) or even if those drivers were causing the malfunction.
The first thing I'm doing this afternoon is plugging my replacement phone into my computer. If the new one doesn't work right then I'll have to make a trip to the Apple store because the problem will almost certainly be my laptop. I'll also owe a big apology to Verizon.

Epic 4g softbricked?

I had a SPH-D700 that was deactivated (Sprint) and I decided to root it. I did a bit of research and found that you needed Odin to root it. I downloaded Odin and the CWM tar for the Epic 4g and then put the phone in download mode. i took a bit of work to get Odin to recognize it, but it eventually did. I followed qbking77's video from there. it hung on SetupConnection for a really long time though. I panicked and unplugged it. Now it won't boot except when in download mode. When I try to boot into recovery or boot regularly, there's no splash screen, just a "phone--!--computer" symbol. I have tried almost everything. I would really appreciate some help.
Get a heavy duty cable like a Blackberry one and odin cwm and like the video said flash the FC09 prerooted ROM. What happened was your cable is a little flaky.
I've used two cables so far, but it still could be... I start looking for a different one I guess
s-cubed said:
I've used two cables so far, but it still could be... I start looking for a different one I guess
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pull the battery off.. leave it off for about 5 - 10 mins. place battery back in. boot into download mode, PLUG INTO BLACKBERRY DATA CABLE and start using odin. let us know if you still having problems.
Now when I plug it in, nothing comes up in Odin.
Dude your drivers are screwed or your USB is messed up use a new computer and try again. Also I prefer Nokia cables more. IMHO they are more durable that's what I use
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if you cant get it to appear in odin, try downloading heimdill, I find 1.11 the easisest to use,. Extract the fc09 rom. Now go to the drivers folder in the zip, open up zagdig, Turn on all l devices under the options menu. Look for samsung composite, or somethign similar. nnstall driver and then go to the frontend. Next put all the parts in and flash with the blackberry cable
you will find the download here http://www.glassechidna.com.au/products/heimdall/
note that the updates past 1.11 has a large change to the gui and maybe confusing, 1.11 is much simpler and as effective as the later update. Use that one for simplicity.

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