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Will it be this... or the Galaxy Nexus?

This phone looks tempting... I look at it as a super sized Epic touch LTE! What do you guys think? Or are you aiming for the Galaxy Nexus on Sprint?
http://gizmodo.com/5885464/samsungs-super+sized-galaxy-note-changed-my-life

I go with the Nexus the galaxy note is just way to big of a phone
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mookiejr05 said:
I go with the Nexus the galaxy note is just way to big of a phone
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Depends on if they upgrade nexus like rumors say ....
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Epix4G said:
Depends on if they upgrade nexus like rumors say ....
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Word is no 32GB--that what you mean?
I can't live without an sd card slot

Radical-J said:
Word is no 32GB--that what you mean?
I can't live without an sd card slot
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No that's gsm has nothing to do with Verizon or sprint ... VZW already had 32GB one But international gsm will not have a 32GB version
Rumor is Sprint will have omap 4470 chip in it ....
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Word is no 32GB--that what you mean?
I can't live without an sd card slot
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No, he means 1.5Ghz as opposed tot he 1.2Ghz it originally shipped at, although that part's not rumor, it was in Sprint's own advertising. The part that's rumor is whether they're bumping it to a newer OMAP processor altogether. Considering the Quadrant results I got between my SGSII and the Galaxy Nexus, that bump would be needed.
Still, I'd agree the Galaxy Nexus is a better bet unless you need the special stylus functions. Overall just having stock Android is a big enough sell to me now.

I wont get the nexus if it has the 4460 in it just not enough of a jump over epic touch , but if they release soon with 4470 I will jump quickly..
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The only thing the galaxy nexus has that I really want is an HD screen. The thing is tho when you compare the HD vs PLUS display you notice the plus isn't outdone at all. Once the epic 4g touch gets 4.0 it will be the better phone.

JRECH said:
The only thing the galaxy nexus has that I really want is an HD screen. The thing is tho when you compare the HD vs PLUS display you notice the plus isn't outdone at all. Once the epic 4g touch gets 4.0 it will be the better phone.
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Yep, I had the GNex for a couple weeks, I actually preferred the E4GTs screen.

I would go with the GNex over the Note any day. The Epic is big. The Nexus is bigger, and the Note, well, that's in a league of its own.
I have sort of longed for the HD screen of the Nexus, but since the Epic has more sub-pixels than the Nexus, the two phones technically have the same number of total pixels. I have used LCD resolution, and changed my value to 160 (stock is 240). I have the look of an HD screen, with almost no down sides. Some icons look a little fuzzy, and I had to change out my launcher, as the Touchwiz launcher doesn't play well with anything other than stock resolution. But it makes the phone look so much better. And once I have HD resolution set up with the ICS update, it will be that much sweeter

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Yep, I had the GNex for a couple weeks, I actually preferred the E4GTs screen.
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So you left Verizon to come back to Sprint?
Also does anyone know if the camera on the Nexus is better or in par with our Epics?

Jess813 said:
So you left Verizon to come back to Sprint?
Also does anyone know if the camera on the Nexus is better or in par with our Epics?
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Well I still had Sprint, was testing out Verizon before I cancelled my Sprint account. Didn't like the GNex and didn't like Verizon so I returned the phone.

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Well I still had Sprint, was testing out Verizon before I cancelled my Sprint account. Didn't like the GNex and didn't like Verizon so I returned the phone.
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WOW... so in other words once it comes to Sprint, this is a phone you will pass on?
What was it about it that made you say "nah"?

Jess813 said:
WOW... so in other words once it comes to Sprint, this is a phone you will pass on?
What was it about it that made you say "nah"?
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Well I have since left Sprint for AT&T (just hanging around here cuz I like you guys so much) but even if I was still with Sprint I would for sure pass on it. ICS is the ONLY reason to get the Gnex, but I would much rather have a more powerful device with an older OS version, ie. the E4GT. ICS is cool, but it doesn't make up for the GNex's sub par hardware. ICS really isn't even the end-all be-all that everyone is making it out to be.

Jess813 said:
So you left Verizon to come back to Sprint?
Also does anyone know if the camera on the Nexus is better or in par with our Epics?
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from what I seen (and used in the Verizon store) the gnexus has a subpar camera... But who knows they may pack a new sensor in it for sprints variant
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_MetalHead_ said:
Well I have since left Sprint for AT&T (just hanging around here cuz I like you guys so much) but even if I was still with Sprint I would for sure pass on it. ICS is the ONLY reason to get the Gnex, but I would much rather have a more powerful device with an older OS version, ie. the E4GT. ICS is cool, but it doesn't make up for the GNex's sub par hardware. ICS really isn't even the end-all be-all that everyone is making it out to be.
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I was afraid of that, I am hoping that ICS is what its suppose to be. From the looks of it I dont like it, it seems like they are going for a more user friendly look and feel ( iOS) but the icons are bigger and I dont know if I am a fan of it. Now as for the functuality of it, that I am interested in! But I am looking into the GNex for my next phone, simply due to the updates and it'll probably be easier to root than the galaxy s 3 or whatever.

I am sensing some sarcasm in the article.
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I've got to say, the Nexus just looks & feels better than the skyrocket...but having said that, from what I understand... the skyrocket is a better phone..... the BIG plus is being able to add an external SD card!
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Answer is easy Epic!Nexus=S Amoled
Epic=S Amoled Plus
If you dont care about the screen i would go with Nexus
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TurboFool said:
No, he means 1.5Ghz as opposed tot he 1.2Ghz it originally shipped at, although that part's not rumor, it was in Sprint's own advertising. The part that's rumor is whether they're bumping it to a newer OMAP processor altogether. Considering the Quadrant results I got between my SGSII and the Galaxy Nexus, that bump would be needed.
Still, I'd agree the Galaxy Nexus is a better bet unless you need the special stylus functions. Overall just having stock Android is a big enough sell to me now.
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Im sure alot of people upgraded from original Epic for S Amoled Plus-Nexus aint got that.
With them Nexuses they always fck up somewhere,all they had to is put led,samoled+ and sdcard and i would have got one.
But lately all Nexuses fall short in some category.

shaggyskunk said:
I've got to say, the Nexus just looks & feels better than the skyrocket...but having said that, from what I understand... the skyrocket is a better phone..... the BIG plus is being able to add an external SD card!
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16GB is more than enough for me specially now that I have all my music uploaded to both Amazon Mp3 and Google Music, I would need memory for custom roms but i tend to run on no more than 2 so I am good with 16gbs! I havent touched a GNex but I will and I guess I would go from there.
From What I have read the Epic Touch has a BETTER cameran and no not because of the megapixels either.

Honest Opinion Guys

Sold my nexus s not too long ago.
After that i have owned a G2X, HTC Sensation, and an HTC amaze.
Once u go amoled, using LCD is painful.
So my question is, would you pick the tmobile galaxy s 2 over the one s?
i am leaning toward the s2(white, screen size, samsung, removable battery/sd), but what about the phone annoys you?, and what can you tell me about the phone that i wont know until i use the phone?
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The one s uses amoled as well.... Except it's a qHD super amoled. I would still go with gs2 because of expandable memory and removable battery. Tmobile is getting the gnote soon as well.. Tough decisions my friend
The main issue in the phone is the screen issues I.e. dark blob spots and screen burns pretty easily you can really only notice the blobs when the screen blacks out and the backlight is on, other than that the phone is friggin bad ass. The only reason I would get the one s would strictly befor the camera. It's prolly thebest camera that's out for any smart phone. Amazing is one word I could describe it. Especially since it records 1080 p video with 60 Fps and ours does 30 Fps

blchff04 said:
The one s uses amoled as well.... Except it's a qHD super amoled. I would still go with gs2 because of expandable memory and removable battery. Tmobile is getting the gnote soon as well.. Tough decisions my friend
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lol real tough...the note is not an option though...its too freaking big!!! i already have a tablet.

Gs2. Definitely. I have used all those phones and this is my favorite by far.
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if you ask this question on a sgs2 forum you already know what answer your gonna tend to get.
But in all honesty get the sgs2 you can't go wrong with that. ; )
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dolcedavinci said:
Sold my nexus s not too long ago.
After that i have owned a G2X, HTC Sensation, and an HTC amaze.
Once u go amoled, using LCD is painful.
So my question is, would you pick the tmobile galaxy s 2 over the one s?
i am leaning toward the s2(white, screen size, samsung, removable battery/sd), but what about the phone annoys you?, and what can you tell me about the phone that i wont know until i use the phone?
thanks
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the problem with the g2x, sensation and amaze is that they started using cheap LCD screens that sucked when viewing from angles. The previous phones with LCD wasn't bad though.
Anyways if i was you, I would wait for the prices to drop just a bit more if you decide to go with the gs2. The one S,X should gain popularity soon and the s3 is nearing.

Teo032 said:
the problem with the g2x, sensation and amaze is that they started using cheap LCD screens that sucked when viewing from angles. The previous phones with LCD wasn't bad though.
Anyways if i was you, I would wait for the prices to drop just a bit more if you decide to go with the gs2. The one S,X should gain popularity soon and the s3 is nearing.
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At least if the one X comes out on tmobile it wont be a blocked boot loader like the at&t HtC one X. Which I think is ridiculous. If the one s had at least super amoled hd and sd card slot. I would of jump shipped.

Yeah I'd probably jump ship to the one s but the no external memory is a deal breaker for me
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camalus said:
Gs2. Definitely. I have used all those phones and this is my favorite by far.
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+1
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All of the carrier phones suck and only work for thiet companies properly, don't expect to get smack from tmobile.
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iwasblown said:
All of the carrier phones suck and only work for thiet companies properly, don't expect to get smack from tmobile.
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No i would say htc phones have the most support on t-mobile. Look at the sensation, Htc G2 even mytouch 4g. Since hardware doesn't change much. Samsung phones on the other hand less support due to different hardware. So as long as you stick to an htc phone you will be fine on t-mobile.

OK, but does the support compensate for better experiences than Samsung roms developed by people?
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Killbynature said:
At least if the one X comes out on tmobile it wont be a blocked boot loader like the at&t HtC one X. Which I think is ridiculous. If the one s had at least super amoled hd and sd card slot. I would of jump shipped.
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elflip88 said:
Yeah I'd probably jump ship to the one s but the no external memory is a deal breaker for me
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agreed
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No i would say htc phones have the most support on t-mobile. Look at the sensation, Htc G2 even mytouch 4g. Since hardware doesn't change much. Samsung phones on the other hand less support due to different hardware. So as long as you stick to an htc phone you will be fine on t-mobile.
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OK, but does the support compensate for better experiences than Samsung roms developed by people?
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wait what? you do realize that htc devices usually gain a swarm of developers right

gs2 is my favorite phone so far after having t-mobile mda, touch pro 2, galaxy intercept, and htc hd7. one of my job responsibilities is hooking up phones to the exchange server so i get to play with lots of phones from different companies/manufacturers. the only thing i've seen that i'd currently take over my gs2 is the galaxy note but good luck with t-mobile getting that anytime soon.

If you care about removable storage and battery no contest S2, or wait for the S3 sometime in June if Samsung sticks to their word. If you want a better resolution screen and faster phone with a tiny bit smaller form factor go with the One S.
Only thing that annoyed me with the S2 hardware wise was the lower resolution screen and the blobs and streaks (edit: and that damn chrome around the phone, scratches before you even hold the phone) aside from that great phone and is now getting some great dev support. HTC One S just released so it may take a bit for support to come, but there is already a working AOKP ROM for it so I'm sure it won't be much longer til support kicks off for it. Either way you're getting a great device
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dolcedavinci said:
Sold my nexus s not too long ago.
After that i have owned a G2X, HTC Sensation, and an HTC amaze.
Once u go amoled, using LCD is painful.
So my question is, would you pick the tmobile galaxy s 2 over the one s?
i am leaning toward the s2(white, screen size, samsung, removable battery/sd), but what about the phone annoys you?, and what can you tell me about the phone that i wont know until i use the phone?
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I never really thought about it but this made me think...what about the S II do I not like? I couldn't think of one thing! Its just awesome! My wife has the G2X...its been warranty replaced 4 times in a year. Twice touch screen stopped working, the other 2 beacause of the overheating issues. With the last update they just released for it nothing's really gotten better. Her battery still only lasts at the most 4 hours with moderate use.
I guess this wasn't really your question I just had to vent. Galaxy S II in my opnion is the way to go.

blchff04 said:
The main issue in the phone is the screen issues I.e. dark blob spots and screen burns pretty easily you can really only notice the blobs when the screen blacks out and the backlight is on, other than that the phone is friggin bad ass.
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Hi guys, I was thinking about to get this version of GS-II (t989), but i´ve heard so many bad things from the owners that I don´t know what to do anymore... So if anyone could help me on this, answearing these couple of questions, I´d very thankfull.
1) Is this screen issue that big deal?? does it happens only with T989 version or the others GSII were affected also?? Is there anything I could do test the screen before buying one (like putting a fully black, gray, white pics on display...)?
2) How is the audio quality on it? Are you guys satisfied?
3) About the camera, that is something I REALLY care on smartphone, I´ve heard it´s a bit different (some people would describe it a bit "worse") from the international GSII- 9100, due its Exynos chipset. However, judging by the samples i´ve seen, the only difference i could notice is that the colors tend to be yellowish on t989 -as the opposite, bluish from 9100. But how about the rest, focusing, details... are they exactly the same??
Thank you guys!!
PS: I´m coming from an Xperia Neo, and I don´t like its camera that much and the audio quality as well.

US galaxy s3 vs HTC ONE XL

I basically wanted to see what are people opinion on this because both phones have qualcoms snapdragon s4, dual core, lte, really the only difference is that the s3 has 2gigs of ram. And as I'm a big gamer I'm going to choose the s3 because the extra gig will help performance, any thoughts?

yotorogo said:
I basically wanted to see what are people opinion on this because both phones have qualcoms snapdragon s4, dual core, lte, really the only difference is that the s3 has 2gigs of ram. And as I'm a big gamer I'm going to choose the s3 because the extra gig will help performance, any thoughts?
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I say it like this,if you want Amoled go with Samsung.If you dont care about Amoled then there are plenty of other choices out there with equal power.
I play games too but my ram never went beyond 1GB,regardless i would still go with GS3.I had 3 gs phones and never found anything that could rival them.
But i do think extra ram does increase performance because sometimes android it self uses over 700mb of ram.

RAM doesn't affect performance unless you have too little. Even the Nexus 7 has 1GB of RAM. The 2GB is there just because they were making up for swapping out the processors. As an i9300 owner, I'll say this: The One X looks and feels better, but it's nothing a case can't take care of. Now, between the One XL and the S3, I'd choose the S3 for a few important reasons:
1. One XL only has like 9GB of usable storage. No memory card slot.
2. No removable battery - if you swap batteries or just wanna replace it after two years, you can't.
3. ROMs - You need to give your IMEI to HTC to get a partial bootloader unlock, and it voids your warranty.

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RAM doesn't affect performance unless you have too little. Even the Nexus 7 has 1GB of RAM. The 2GB is there just because they were making up for swapping out the processors. As an i9300 owner, I'll say this: The One X looks and feels better, but it's nothing a case can't take care of. Now, between the One XL and the S3, I'd choose the S3 for a few important reasons:
1. One XL only has like 9GB of usable storage. No memory card slot.
2. No removable battery - if you swap batteries or just wanna replace it after two years, you can't.
3. ROMs - You need to give your IMEI to HTC to get a partial bootloader unlock, and it voids your warranty.
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Agreed, One XL is nice. But the SGS3 is a better choice!

I have the one x and the gs3 and its not even close the gs3 smokes the one x its not even close
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I have and use both on a daily basis and the OneX wins in my book it's has a waaay better screen (can barely see the screen on my s3 when its sunny out), build quality, camera, sound, and did I mention build quality I was very disappointed when I unboxed my s3 my first words was Damn this feels cheap I threw on the otterbox and wouldn't dream of leaving the house without it. The s3 does have good multitasking, on the onex it gets very annoying when you go back to what you were doing only to have to start over again
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thanks for all your reply's, im going to be getting the gs3, and personally i don't understand why people say the build quality on the gs3 feels cheap. My friends has one and he lets me use every now and then, and i like how it feels. Don't get me wrong the HTC ONE X has a better build quality but i don't think the gs3 is as bad as people are describing it. Because im going to be signing a 2 year contract with att, i think the gs3 would be a good choice because in a year from now when newer better phones are out the extra ram will help the gs3 be on par with the new phones in terms of performance

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thanks for all your reply's, im going to be getting the gs3, and personally i don't understand why people say the build quality on the gs3 feels cheap. My friends has one and he lets me use every now and then, and i like how it feels. Don't get me wrong the HTC ONE X has a better build quality but i don't think the gs3 is as bad as people are describing it. Because im going to be signing a 2 year contract with att, i think the gs3 would be a good choice because in a year from now when newer better phones are out the extra ram will help the gs3 be on par with the new phones in terms of performance
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I second that motion
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yotorogo said:
thanks for all your reply's, im going to be getting the gs3, and personally i don't understand why people say the build quality on the gs3 feels cheap. My friends has one and he lets me use every now and then, and i like how it feels. Don't get me wrong the HTC ONE X has a better build quality but i don't think the gs3 is as bad as people are describing it. Because im going to be signing a 2 year contract with att, i think the gs3 would be a good choice because in a year from now when newer better phones are out the extra ram will help the gs3 be on par with the new phones in terms of performance
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The S2, in comparison felt cheap even though it was as high end as you could get. HTC always builds sturdier phones. But the S3 is different; even though it feels plasticky, its clearly a huge improvement in build quality.

I love how misinformed people are. The extra gigabyte isn't going to improve performance noticeably, if at all. As someone above me said even the nexus 7 uses 1gig of ram. Now you could argue that it was for pricing purposes, but android runs similarly to Linux. The more ram being used the better. You're never going to have a problem multitasking, even with only one gig of ram. If you really want to see improvement use an aosp rom. While there's no hardware acceleration on third party launchers as there is touchwiz, touchwiz itself uses more ram than anything
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Dunno why people keep saying that the 2GBs of Ram won't make a difference. As someone who has used several Android devices with only 1GB of Ram, the S3 has kept many more apps in memory than my previous phones. And keeping the apps in memory means not having to reload them = faster multitasking and better user experience (being able to zip through apps is such a wonderful feeling).

My other friend got an HTC one XL and I have been using it for a while and I'm thinking of getting, because both of them are preety good phones and honestly is the extra gig of ram really going to make a difference while playing a game or making a call, or browsing the web, I don't think so , the and there both are going to be using 4g lte so I have a week to decide and I ask on xda because I actually value your opinion
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Get the SG3, read though the One X forum, so many defects!
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GS3
Definitely the Galaxy S3 is way better.

Yeah Im going for the s3, and so far I'm seeing the s3 has better android delevopement so that's another win
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I love when people ask these questions in a device specific forum. Lol. Obviously we all chose the s3,so our opinion is gonna lean that way.
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option94 said:
I love when people ask these questions in a device specific forum. Lol. Obviously we all chose the s3,so our opinion is gonna lean that way.
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Haha very true. The guy just needs to compare specs and what he likes about both phones. Remember its not going to matter what we told u because ultimately u could go for a totally different phone after seeing these two in person u might hate them. Anyways i think the besr way to go about this is to go to store and play with both phones for 20 minutes and go through all the settings. I think this is the best way to see which one u like the best

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Haha very true. The guy just needs to compare specs and what he likes about both phones. Remember its not going to matter what we told u because ultimately u could go for a totally different phone after seeing these two in person u might hate them. Anyways i think the besr way to go about this is to go to store and play with both phones for 20 minutes and go through all the settings. I think this is the best way to see which one u like the best
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+1 then only thing that matted, especially when comparing two very high end devices, is your own opinion.
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sarni84 said:
Haha very true. The guy just needs to compare specs and what he likes about both phones. Remember its not going to matter what we told u because ultimately u could go for a totally different phone after seeing these two in person u might hate them. Anyways i think the besr way to go about this is to go to store and play with both phones for 20 minutes and go through all the settings. I think this is the best way to see which one u like the best
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I have gone tried out both phones and I like the s3 better, and the s3 has better specs, heck its better than my current computer. I think my only probable will be using it in the sunlight but otherwise I like it. I even like touchwize and the s3 has more developers so that's a win. So far the s3 comustom kernels can get you to 1.9 Ghz while hox custom kernel can get you 1.8, not that bog of a difference but I want the faster phone and the s3 wins, plus I need lots of storage and no expandable storage is another reason why the s3 is better
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Then we'll be glad tobhabr you around here long term. Congrats.
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I don't get why people think of selling there SIII for the nexus 4

I don't understand why people will sell there galaxy S III for the nexus 4. Galaxy S III comes with a with micro sd slot, bigger display, better front facing camera, and LTE.
I understand that the LG nexus is a nexus phone and always get update faster, wireless charging, and quad core. But I don't think it still outweighs the SIII. I think the SIII is still superior.
For those people that don't have either phone yes it be more difficult to choose mainly because the Nexus 4 Price is amazing for what it offers. but for those people with SIII how is this even debatable.
Is there something im missing?

much better processor. hspa+ 42meg compatible. no bloatware. possibly a better screen. wireless charging. I think you pretty much answered your own question. lol. not having lte isnt a huge deal breaker for me since I am near wifi almost always. Tradeoff is the 4 will probably have outstanding battery life. 16 gig is enough storage for me.

The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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iceman4357 said:
much better processor. hspa+ 42meg compatible. no bloatware. possibly a better screen. wireless charging. I think you pretty much answered your own question. lol. not having lte isnt a huge deal breaker for me since I am near wifi almost always. Tradeoff is the 4 will probably have outstanding battery life. 16 gig is enough storage for me.
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CPU is a quad core which is nice I agree but most the stuff on android don't utilize it, so its pretty pointless until later. No bloatware, we can already use custom roms or titanium to get rid of it. Not sure what to say about the screen I never seen it personally not going to judge it either. Wireless charging is cool I guess, but I doubt it charges faster then a direct connection. We can toggle off LTE and get pretty amazing battery life with the SIII both devices are both the same size battery. I agree16 gb is enough for me, but I like the fact that the SIII allows us to add more storage if we ever choose to. Maybe its because its new and its over hyped, i must admit at first I was like I want it. But I really thought about it and I realize its not worth it.
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The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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Thats how I feel.

LTE is great. Those that say its "not ready for prime time yet" must not have it in their area or haven't tried it yet. I'd love to get the N4 but 21mbps HSPA on ATT in San Diego nets me all of 1mbps down and that's a no go. If its 42 mbps then maybe.
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yamahakid said:
The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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+1 no Lte no way,16gb no where near enough space for me, shoot my 32gb sd card is almost full, no bloat not even an issue can be easily removed with titanium backup, my s3 dual core/2gb ram loads everything just fine, in my opinion I have yet to see another android manufactures phone screen that looks better than the s3, I have a nexus 7 and screen looks washed out compared to my s3, only other phone worth considering selling s3 for right now is the note 2 if you can deal with the size.
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The nexus 4 is nice and all, but it doesn't really do anything the s3 can't . And with the dev support we have here, we really don't need to wait for updates.
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If I wasn't getting the note 2 tomorrow, I'd be on the nexus 4, such a good price
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The fact that it is an lg phone should be plenty enough to keep me and it gets away. No thx
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3 main reasons I wont switch to a Nexus 4
1- I need 32g minimum
2- Its made by LG
3- Glass on the the back ? WTF ! I hate scratches.

Well it's a quad core.
Nexus line means direct support. First to get updates. Maybe I don't have to flash roms to get better battery life. Stock Android look.
Beautiful design. Cheap price. Don't use lte that much.
Better screen than s3
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Well it's a quad core.
Nexus line means direct support. First to get updates. Maybe I don't have to flash roms to get better battery life. Stock Android look.
Beautiful design. Cheap price. Don't use lte that much.
Better screen than s3
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Lol. First to get updates always makes me laugh. Hours after source is released which is when the nexus line gets their updates I have ROMs released for whatever device I own. So I guess in a way I'm first to get updates too.
1.) Its made by LG. That says enough I would think. I can most here all the complaints a month or two after releases about this not working, this is broken, etc..
2.) Better screen? Not sure how you can state this unless youve personally held the phone in your hand. Spec sheets arent always as they seem . Just remember which company is known for producing the best screens out there.
3.) It really all boils down to personal preference either way. But I'm sure we've all learned that newer isn't always better.

The only reason I'm considering it is because of the price. I would love the freedom of being eligible for an upgrade because att will bend over backwards to keep you. Before I upgraded to the gs3 I was considering moving to Verizon and att pretty much gave me $50 off my bill for the next 6 months and sold me the gs3 for $99.
But without a micro SD card I don't see no need to switch
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The fact that it is an lg phone should be plenty enough to keep me and it gets away. No thx
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This...
I'm sure it is a great device, I don't think Google would sully the nexus name with a bad piece of hardware, but the reputation that lg has is not the best in the game.
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I'd have to agree with the few that have noted LG - enough said. They have never been the brand I look to for phone tech - Samsung, HTC and Motorola are the only ones to consider.. The few LGs I've used/played with have been less than impressive.
Addition: Google has stated that they are releasing multiple Nexus devices, so if I were to give up my S3, I'd wait for the next Motorola or Samsung device.

I find it silly that people would sell their GS3 for this Nexus 4. No extra storage, no removable battery, no lte, no thanks.
It's great for anyone that doesn't live under LTE coverage and can't get out of their contract/don't want to upgrade and sign another contract.
I also find it funny that these same people who are praising the Nexus 4 are the same ones that knock the iphone (remember when the 4s came out?) Heavy on the fact that it doesn't have a removable battery, no expandable storage and no LTE. All of a sudden it's cool now? Get out of here...

Lg has crappy software support but with this being a nexus that's no longer an issue. Samsung is taking forever just to release 4.1.1 do y'all realistically see Samsung pushing out 4.2 this year? Even then we would wait for att also. There's not doubt that the phone will get this update eventually with cyanogen.

+1 on no chance of getting it because it doesn't have micro sd or removable battery. I could probably handle the battery, but not the lack of micro sd.
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I would be willing to go out on a limb and give LG a try for a Nexus device but...no removable SD is a complete deal breaker for me. Cloud storage is not a good substitute for local storage yet. And 8GB or 16GB just isn't cutting it anymore. I hope the SGS4 has a 32 & 64 GB version with removable storage. I love my 50GB dropbox (thank you Samsung) but it just isn't the same as direct attached storage.

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2.) Better screen? Not sure how you can state this unless youve personally held the phone in your hand. Spec sheets arent always as they seem . Just remember which company is known for producing the best screens out there.
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Technologically, it is pretty much undeniable that the screen is better. It can't produce as much vibrancy, but it is so much better on color preciseness. I don't notice it that much on my S3, but when I stick it next to a relative's One X it's pretty obvious that the whites aren't white and some other colors are slightly off as well. In day to day use, I don't care. But, seriously... dat screen...

N4 vs GS3 vs Note 2

Have the GS3. I love it. Best phone I've ever had. I'm getting the itch though. I was seriously considering N4. Reviews dont seem to be as positive as I hoped, particularly from those coming from GS3. Which made me look at the Note 2. I love that phone. But is it too big? I don't think it is but I also have the N7, so do I even need the bigger screen? I rarely use my GS3 for anything other than phone calls and texts. Am I wasting my money? I'm thinking I am...but not sure. Anyone else considering either of these phones?
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IMO it's either the s3 or note2. The nexus only has 16 gb of storage with no chance of increasing, has a fragile back that will crack if dropped, and is made by lg which hasn't made many great phones. The camera is only average and also has a halo haze and its not that much faster in real world tests. As for the note, only you can decide if its too big, other than that its actually a little better than the s3.

I've pretty much ruled out the N4 at this point. I'm going to check out the Note 2 tomorrow. If I get the note would that replace my N7? Enough to give me an excuse for getting N10??
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IMO it's either the s3 or note2. The nexus only has 16 gb of storage with no chance of increasing, has a fragile back that will crack if dropped, and is made by lg which hasn't made many great phones. The camera is only average and also has a halo haze and its not that much faster in real world tests. As for the note, only you can decide if its too big, other than that its actually a little better than the s3.
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I don't wanna start a flame war and I'm not trying to diss you but I'm just curious as to were you've been getting your info from. From all the people that have gotten the phone I haven't heard them say anything of what you just posted.
From all the reviews I have read, they say it's very smooth, the camera is very good, but not as good as the S3. The back is fragile but not as fragile as people seem to believe. The hardware is very good even though its by LG (it's pretty much an Optimus G) which is a very good phone by the way.
Oh yeah and the screen on that is much better than the S3. I believe the NOTE 2 has the same screen type as the S3 (correct me if I'm wrong)
The only thing that I really see as a downside is the damn storage. I just can't believe Google thinks that 16gb is enough now days. Even though there is the cloud, carriers restrict you on data.
Overall if you just use your phone for text and call I would go with the N4, since storage isn't a priority for you. I'm sure everyone prefers the pure Google experience with timely updates. Plus it's cheap without a contract.
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You bring up some valid points...especially that I'm only using my phone for calls and texts...N4 would be perfect for that. Pure Google...would love that. I guess I was hoping I'd use my phone for a little more. Hence Note 2. As far as the screen, I hear the AMOLED is too saturated with "fake" color. I love that screen to be honest. Fake colors or not, i think they are beautiful. I've yet to see N4 in person...or Note 2. Tomorrow I'm going to the T-Mobile store..hopefully they have both. Note 2 and GS3 both have AMOLED screens.
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I'm actually getting ready to switch to a Note 2 on Verizon as soon as it comes out. I love my S3, but I really want that huge screen, and extra battery life.
I've been with T Mobile for over 10 years, and their customer service is great, but I really want more reliable and consistent coverage. I'm actually rolling the dice on not being able to flash custom ROMs(or just having limited development) in exchange for a better network and LTE.
There's no way I would go with an N4, and that's only because of the 16 gigs of storage. I have a 16 gig S3 and had a 16 gig external SD card, and I still ended up having to upgrade to a 64 gig card. But if your not big into music, movies or games, then you probably don't have to worry about that.
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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I heard VZW has locked bootloader and possibly hasn't been unlocked yet, could be wrong though
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N4 is a great device in my opinion. I love the vanilla Android and assurance of updates.
However, a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage is a big grippe to me. I like having the option to increase my storage capacities.
If you're worried about the size of the Note II, simply pick one up at the T-Mobile store or anywhere they would carry one. It's definitely a large device, it felt kind of awkward to me, but then again so did the GS3 when I first got it.
The N4 has the best price to performance ratio of any phone out there today, I believe.
That's a huge sweet spot to me.
I think that you'd be happy either way. All of these phones are great and should last you a while.

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Locked bootloader and even if it gets unlocked, my understanding is that there is less development on Verizon LTE phones. Might just have to do some research on porting my own ROM's, but I really think I could get used to running TW and just using a different launcher. Once we get root, we can at least do a few mods and use root apps.
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I like the note 2, its a very nice phone very fast, my coworker bought it and he loves it, I wish the s3 had the quad core processor like the euro did, that would make it even better. I kinda feel as if I got a gs2 with a bigger screen. If all you are going to do is calls and text then the note 2 is overdoing it. I would stick with the s3. I love the phone and can't wait to see what's next from samsung.
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I presume you have the money to upgrade. But let be honest, the N4 and Note 2 is not that different in term of overall quality compare to S3. I think you should wait till summer or so since by then something beastly and different will come out.

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I like the note 2, its a very nice phone very fast, my coworker bought it and he loves it, I wish the s3 had the quad core processor like the euro did, that would make it even better. I kinda feel as if I got a gs2 with a bigger screen. If all you are going to do is calls and text then the note 2 is overdoing it. I would stick with the s3. I love the phone and can't wait to see what's next from samsung.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but very few apps take advantage of dual core processing at the moment (let alone quad core) and the 2 cores on the US version are pretty fast (faster IIRC 1 for 1).
Hell tons of applications still come out for Windows that aren't multithreaded and multicore/multiprocessor systems have been around for many years now.

hardware wise
note 2>s3>n4
reality wise
s3>note 2>n4