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Micro Usb To Mini USb to Normal USB

I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM

Lordareon said:
I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM
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you will not be able to plug in a USB peripheral (mouse, keyboard) directly into the phone. it will not work.
you can, however, purchase a +5V powered USB hub (that plugs into the wall), and use that to plug into the phone and plug your KB/mouse into the hub, and it should work. you can find such hubs at www.dealextreme.com
to further answer your question, USB-___USB converters will work as long as the converters have all four lines hooked up. many converters are 'power-only' where only the power/ground lines are connected and the other two lines (data) are not.

So if i buy an ordinary pc hub that connects to power and the plug usb-to-microusb, it will work?

Well let it alone, ill buy a Bluetooth keyboard, will spare time and cables and converters ahahha

The Micro USB plug must be OTG (USB ON THE GO) or your phone won't recognize the peripheral. Also the advice given was correct, the phone USB port can't provide power to a peripheral device and so you must use a powered hub in between the phone and the peripheral device.
A USB OTG has pin 5 and pin 4 tied together in the Micro USB connector end to tell the phone to invoke OTG mode.

Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.

elementaldragon said:
Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.
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already been stated twice.

G - NEXUS Micro USB Y Cable - Exists??

Anyone know if a MICRO USB to FEMALE USB cables are available? I posted a link below of what Im talking about but it is a MINI USB to female (example)
I'm trying to hook up a keyboard and a mouse to my galaxy nexus so im looking for a splitter that has 2 FEMALE usb ends
http://www.staples.com/Staples-4-Po...:Cables_Hubs_Adapters_&_Switches:715440:36302

I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking of making my own dock and having this apart of it would be pretty sweet.

i know im trying to find something like that. I was able to use an OTG Host Cable and i plugged my logitech wireless transmitter to it for my mouse and it worked on my Nexus it was sweet so i started thinking what if I can find a cable with 2 female ends so I can hook up a transmitter for a keyboard and one for the mouse.

Very interesting!!!

Motorola makes a micro USB to female USB. They sell it as an accessory to the Zoom. Use that with a USB hub.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Verizon 4G LTE.

You can find micro usb to mini usb adapters on ebay. ($0.99)
They are mini usb (female) to micro usb (male).
Connect them to your mini usb cables/devices and make them
micro usb cables/devices

Look for OTG (on the go) cables, like these:
http://shop.mobileweb.ebay.com/sear...bdacc?kw=USB+otg+galaxy+nexus&x=0&y=0&cmd=SKW
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I am typing this on my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard. It is a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I use it for my theater PC/seedbox/home server.
I paired it to my GNex and everything works great, mouse and keyboard!
It is a little expensive, but no wires, and its a gorgeous piece of hardware.
http://mobile.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Also it will leave the port open on the phone, so you can connect to your
TV. Really looking forward to Ubuntu's news today!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Verizon 4G LTE.

Dakota0206 said:
I am typing this on my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard. It is a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I use it for my theater PC/seedbox/home server.
I paired it to my GNex and everything works great, mouse and keyboard!
It is a little expensive, but no wires, and its a gorgeous piece of hardware.
http://mobile.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Also it will leave the port open on the phone, so you can connect to your
TV. Really looking forward to Ubuntu's news today!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Verizon 4G LTE.
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Thanks for that it looks really good and you're right I would still have an open port so i'll probably use an MHL adaptor that can charge at the same time.
cbay said:
You can find micro usb to mini usb adapters on ebay. ($0.99)
They are mini usb (female) to micro usb (male).
Connect them to your mini usb cables/devices and make them
micro usb cables/devices
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Thats looks good. now I just gotta find a mini usb to full usb in a Y cable with two full usb ends so I can hook up usb devices to it.

or a Y cable that has two mini usb female ends and the other one would be male mini usb

I'd second the USB hub idea. I've got a small 4-port hub with a memory card reader built in that I connect via an OTG cable. The side benefit is that it's a powered hub so I can connect an external battery or AC adapter to it so USB devices will pull power from it instead of the phone. It's really not much bulkier than some weird multi-headed cable solution and when I only need one device (which is most of the time) the compact OTG cable works fine.
FYI, I don't think you can split the USB to support HDMI on one side and USB on the other, to my knowledge the chip in the phone only supports one at a time. Once HDMI is enabled you need to look at Bluetooth devices.

yea makes sense for the hub. I was just trying to avoid using bluetooth because Im sure the HDMI would draw power to push to screen but then again it would be plugged into the side for AC. I think that bluetooth keyboard mentioned earlier sounds like a good idea. It's got a mouse pad and keyboard all in one.

mrgq1111 said:
yea makes sense for the hub. I was just trying to avoid using bluetooth because Im sure the HDMI would draw power to push to screen but then again it would be plugged into the side for AC. I think that bluetooth keyboard mentioned earlier sounds like a good idea. It's got a mouse pad and keyboard all in one.
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It actually works really well. I highly recommend it.
Also like someone said I don't think it would be possible to push HD video a keyboard and a mouse all through a hub.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

USB OTG on the Glide ?

Just that, if anybody can try this out would, it would be awesome. You can follow the steps in this article:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/determine-your-phones-usb-host-capabilities-with-usb-host-diagnostics/
I will make the test myself when I have the phone, but, I live in Argentina so, It'll take a while, I'll be making the payment trough PayPal probably next Monday, soo, that'll be 5 days for the package to be delivered to my courrier's office in Miami, next, another 3 business days for it to be delivered to my partner's house in Chile, and, with luck, another 2 or 3 days till my partner pick it up and bring it to Argentina for me XD
I f*cking hate customs !!! You damn bastards !!!

I ordered the OTG cable.
Not received yet.
Without the cable (and no USB device attached), it says:
Android API:
Claims support : No
Classes found : No
Device detected : N/A
Rooted API:
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Kernel :
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Will let you know the results, but verdict should be Glide support : No ....
BTW : I'm running Rogers ROM + Cranium Kernel. It may report different with AT&T and other kernel ....

frav said:
I ordered the OTG cable.
Not received yet.
Without the cable (and no USB device attached), it says:
Android API:
Claims support : No
Classes found : No
Device detected : N/A
Rooted API:
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Kernel :
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Will let you know the results, but verdict should be Glide support : No ....
BTW : I'm running Rogers ROM + Cranium Kernel. It may report different with AT&T and other kernel ....
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Thanks ! Sounds good to me, Device detected it's gonna be always no, if nothing it's plugged, so that's OK, and, if the Kernel claims support, I'm pretty sure it'll work, after all, this is "Kind" of a Galaxy SII device.

Are you saying that if this works we will be able to plug in a USB Key or an SDCARD via a dongle and upload files to and from our phone. Wow that would be crazy useful. Imagine plugging your friends android phone in USB mode and transferring some files to him.

If we have USB Host anybody thought about this:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Seems like we match all the Requirements:
Hardware requirements
Dual-core 1GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM

dudejb said:
If we have USB Host anybody thought about this:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Seems like we match all the Requirements:
Hardware requirements
Dual-core 1GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
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This is exactly what made me open this thread XD

I have the OTG cable and it works great. I've tested it with a Flash Drive, Mouse, Keyboard, even showed a co-worker how I could charge his iPhone with my phone. Haha
I did the test for you and attached a screenshot of the results.

Wow! That is cool, how did the mouse work? Do you see a mouse in android? Did the keyboard work well? With the flash drive you get to see the files on it?

dudejb said:
Wow! That is cool, how did the mouse work? Do you see a mouse in android? Did the keyboard work well? With the flash drive you get to see the files on it?
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Yes, a mouse is displayed on the screen. It works great, right click acts like the back button, scroll click like the menu button, left click acts like your finger touching the screen (including drag, click and hold). The keyboard is similar with certain keys acting like the android buttons. Also, you can view and transfer files to and from your flash drive.
It works just like it does on the SGS2, tons of videos on YouTube. It's an awesome feature!

gtdRR, thanks a lot, now I want my Glide more badly than before XD
Somebody could PM the admins so this appears in the News Page.

gtdRR said:
Yes, a mouse is displayed on the screen. It works great, right click acts like the back button, scroll click like the menu button, left click acts like your finger touching the screen (including drag, click and hold). The keyboard is similar with certain keys acting like the android buttons. Also, you can view and transfer files to and from your flash drive.
It works just like it does on the SGS2, tons of videos on YouTube. It's an awesome feature!
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Wow I can't wait to try this.....Now, how would I use an MHL cable and a USB mouse and Keyboard.... Kind of would turn my phone into a PC if I could do that. Lets see a Micro USB to USB Hub. Plug into the hub the Peripherals then plug the MHL to a Micro USB to USB converter and away I go....Of course power the MHL. I don't think the MHL connector would like to go behind a USB hub though. In theory is this not what the docking station is doing in order to run the Ubuntu on android? OK not with this phone but on the one that they are demoing it on.

dudejb said:
Wow I can't wait to try this.....Now, how would I use an MHL cable and a USB mouse and Keyboard.... Kind of would turn my phone into a PC if I could do that. Lets see a Micro USB to USB Hub. Plug into the hub the Peripherals then plug the MHL to a Micro USB to USB converter and away I go....Of course power the MHL. I don't think the MHL connector would like to go behind a USB hub though. In theory is this not what the docking station is doing in order to run the Ubuntu on android? OK not with this phone but on the one that they are demoing it on.
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It's a lot simpler than that, just use this MHL cable:
http://www.samsungcaptivateglideaccessories.com/capigpitalsdfkzlig-11.html
Just plug it to your phone MicroUSB port, then plug a MiniHDMI Cable to the MiniHDMI port of the MHL cable, then plug that MiniHDMI cable to your Monitor/TV, on the other side, plug your phone's MicroUSB cable into the Female MicroUSB port of the MHL cable, and then plug that USB cable to a Hub, then just plug every other peripheral into the Hub, and of curse, if you're going to use an External Drive or something like that, remember to buy a 9V/12V AC Adapter for the USB Hub.

santimaster2000 said:
It's a lot simpler than that, just use this MHL cable:
http://www.samsungcaptivateglideaccessories.com/capigpitalsdfkzlig-11.html
Just plug it to your phone MicroUSB port, then plug a MiniHDMI Cable to the MiniHDMI port of the MHL cable, then plug that MiniHDMI cable to your Monitor/TV, on the other side, plug your phone's MicroUSB cable into the Female MicroUSB port of the MHL cable, and then plug that USB cable to a Hub, then just plug every other peripheral into the Hub, and of curse, if you're going to use an External Drive or something like that, remember to buy a 9V/12V AC Adapter for the USB Hub.
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So your saying to plug the MHL adapter to the phone and to plug the Hub to the MHL device. I do not know if this will work as you need to Power the MHL adapter. Are you saying that powering the hub will power the hub and the MHL adapter? Have you tried this? I have the MHL adapter and I love the HDMI ability of my phone but I found I can not use to long a HDMI cable as it will not work since the HDMI cable is drawing power from the MHL adapter. 3 Feet works and 10 feet does not. I have not tested others in between yet. Oh and yes I do power the MHL adapter via another device (USB port to Power, or a Battery device to MicroUSB)

dudejb said:
So your saying to plug the MHL adapter to the phone and to plug the Hub to the MHL device. I do not know if this will work as you need to Power the MHL adapter. Are you saying that powering the hub will power the hub and the MHL adapter? Have you tried this? I have the MHL adapter and I love the HDMI ability of my phone but I found I can not use to long a HDMI cable as it will not work since the HDMI cable is drawing power from the MHL adapter. 3 Feet works and 10 feet does not. I have not tested others in between yet. Oh and yes I do power the MHL adapter via another device (USB port to Power, or a Battery device to MicroUSB)
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I have tried using the MHL and USB OTG cables at the same time and had no luck. Didn't attempt with any powered USB hubs.
What I have done is use the MHL adapter, and a bluetooth mouse and keyboard at the same time. Similar to video here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb-DICYCgg.

frav said:
I ordered the OTG cable.
Not received yet.
Without the cable (and no USB device attached), it says:
Android API:
Claims support : No
Classes found : No
Device detected : N/A
Rooted API:
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Kernel :
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Will let you know the results, but verdict should be Glide support : No ....
BTW : I'm running Rogers ROM + Cranium Kernel. It may report different with AT&T and other kernel ....
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Ok.
Received the cable.
It works.
ROM : Rogers (unklocked & rooted) + Cranium kernel.
USB key is mounted in usbstorage (/sda) and content of USB key is displayed (pdf, ...).
Mouse works as well.
Results posted on USB Host Diagnostics web site (using feature embeded in tool).

I bought a generic MHL cable online and couldn't get it to work; but got it working with two other phones. So apparently you do have to buy the special Captivate Glide cable. Can anyone verify this? I'd hate to pay extra for another cable that didn't work
What did you have to do to get your MHL Cable to work?
It does look like there are several different ones, so I'll try ordering another one...

jbstanford said:
I bought a generic MHL cable online and couldn't get it to work; but got it working with two other phones. So apparently you do have to buy the special Captivate Glide cable. Can anyone verify this? I'd hate to pay extra for another cable that didn't work
What did you have to do to get your MHL Cable to work?
It does look like there are several different ones, so I'll try ordering another one...
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He is talking about OTG Cable, not MHL Cable, no one has confirm that the MHL Cable works with the Glide, only way to know for sure, it's buying an Original Captivate Glide MHL Cable, that most likely it's the same one that for all the Galaxy S II variants out there

santimaster2000 said:
He is talking about OTG Cable, not MHL Cable, no one has confirm that the MHL Cable works with the Glide, only way to know for sure, it's buying an Original Captivate Glide MHL Cable, that most likely it's the same one that for all the Galaxy S II variants out there
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I bought my MHL cable at Monoprice.com for cheap and it works great with a 3Foot HDMI cable and powering the MHL connector.
THe only reason we are talking about the MHL and USB cable is because you need both working to really use the phone on a screen with a USB mouse and keyboard. I ordered a cheap USB host to Microsub cable on ebay when it comes from China I will let you know if it works with and without the MHL.

dudejb said:
I ordered a cheap USB host to Microsub cable on ebay when it comes from China I will let you know if it works with and without the MHL.
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Did they work together?

Works for me sort of...
My micro usb port is loose & i have to hold the phone & cable tightly together to get it to connect. Because of this i can no longer charge my phone directly & have to charge spare batteries separately & swap when they run down.
I can also confirm the hdmi out works too & i have a bluetooth mouse that connects nicely at the same time for remote control.
Wished they would have used a usb mini instead of micro, as the micros tend to fail after moderate use.
Sent from my Rooted Samsung SGH-i927 Captivate Glide
Running Android ICS 4.0.4 LiteRom 0.9.0 LiteKernel 1.2.3 & ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.1.2 using xda-dev app.

[Q] MHL HDMI working through a USB hub?

I am interested in hooking up my GN to a monitor along with a mouse and keyboard. I just got bored and thought it would be fun to use my phone as a sort of computer.
I have made my own OTG USB cable and have hooked up everything separately and have full functionality of everything individually. The problem lies in the fact that video out requires a MHL HDMI adaptor... which occupies the USB plug on the phone, my only thought has been to use a USB hub as I don't have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Before I go tearing up my MHL HDMI adaptor, does anyone know if it is possible to plug the MHL adaptor into the USB hub and have it work? Are there some issues with power that I haven't even considered, since the MHL adaptor has to have its own power and even supplies the phone with electricity when connected?
Its only a $10 part, so I am going to do it if I don't get a solid answer here and will report back if it works.
Thanks

Sorry, no it won't work. When the MHL is plugged in, the USB pins are reconfigured to do the video, USB data can't work simultaneously. The best way is to get bluetooth keyboard and mouse and use the MHL adapter for the video.

MHL with USB OTG?

Has anyone found a MHL cable that also includes a USB OTG port? Samsung reportedly changed from a 5-pin configuration to an 11-pin configuration to allow MHL with USB Host mode simultaneously. Perhaps for a future Desktop Mode?
Has anyone been able to find one of these cables?

Just wanted to update, I believe I found the type of connector that I was looking for, but it is missing HDMI and it is sold out. This essentially could give you PC type connectivity on the S3.
http://www.mobilefun.com/35462-mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3.htm

I think we still have a bit of a wait. What you found is essentially a USB OTG hub with some card readers built in. I seriously doubt this will pass through the pins for HDMI to work out of the usb port. We'll see something when this phone finally launches everywhere. It's not even out in the US officially yet

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the article in the link in the OP. Man.. I might have to get me a GS3 now. I'm quite satisfied with the reasoning for a pin change. =)
Samsung sells 11 pin MHL adapters and USB female to Micro USB male adapters on their accessories page, but I'm not sure if you could piggy back the USB input into the charging port of the MHL cable. I don't see any all in one cables on their site, and the desktop dock is just micro usb/audio. I tried.. =(
Here's what I was looking at.
Old and mostly unrelated. See edit.
I happened to buy what looks exactly like that adapter today earlier at Micro Center. Now, I do have a Galaxy Nexus, but the USB OTG works great with keyboards/usb/mice/hubs; however, I cannot get it to simultaneously work with my MHL adapter. I understand the GS3 has a different pin layout though for MHL - my phone works with my MHL adapter correctly, but I didn't think it would have any change on the USB OTG. I'll most likely be breaking these apart and start tinkering. My goal is to show people how much of a full desktop-like experience I can provide from my phone, since so many people somehow think a GNex or GS3 are inferior to tablets, just because they're smaller... lol
Good luck finding information out on some kind of MHL/USB OTG setup. I'm just trying to provide any information I can from how my situation works with MHL/OTG, since I'm currently on the quest to achieve this myself.

kynolin said:
EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the article in the link in the OP. Man.. I might have to get me a GS3 now. I'm quite satisfied with the reasoning for a pin change. =)
Samsung sells 11 pin MHL adapters and USB female to Micro USB male adapters on their accessories page, but I'm not sure if you could piggy back the USB input into the charging port of the MHL cable. I don't see any all in one cables on their site, and the desktop dock is just micro usb/audio. I tried.. =(
Here's what I was looking at.
Old and mostly unrelated. See edit.
I happened to buy what looks exactly like that adapter today earlier at Micro Center. Now, I do have a Galaxy Nexus, but the USB OTG works great with keyboards/usb/mice/hubs; however, I cannot get it to simultaneously work with my MHL adapter. I understand the GS3 has a different pin layout though for MHL - my phone works with my MHL adapter correctly, but I didn't think it would have any change on the USB OTG. I'll most likely be breaking these apart and start tinkering. My goal is to show people how much of a full desktop-like experience I can provide from my phone, since so many people somehow think a GNex or GS3 are inferior to tablets, just because they're smaller... lol
Good luck finding information out on some kind of MHL/USB OTG setup. I'm just trying to provide any information I can from how my situation works with MHL/OTG, since I'm currently on the quest to achieve this myself.
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I'm not really sure why people think they NEED MHL and USB OTG simultaneously to get a "desktop-like experience". You can already accomplish this with just a plain MHL cable and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse as was demonstrated in the Connectivity Demo video on youtube.
Edit: Actually I just remembered about portable hard drives. If you want to hook up a mouse, keyboard AND hard drive I wonder if you can plug all three into a powered USB hub connected to a bluetooth dongle. Hmm...

I'm looking for a dock with USB OTG, charging and MHL. Maybe some day.

I believe this is already capable. Everything I say here is purely speculative, but what I see is that Samsung moved to a 11-pin connector for MHL and the standard 5-pin is no longer functioning. To call it MHL, they probably have to use the same standards for data encoding... but they simply "moved" the pins.
I put "moved" in quotes because of the way in which a standard 4 pin USB cable works (or 5 pin for our case)... you have a +5V, Ground, Data + and Data - (one data to phone, one data from phone, carrying ALL data). Since our phones still sync via 5-pin cables, this means the 5 pins are still "hot" for data like all other phones. I am presuming, that for the 11-pin connector, Samsung simply added a few more data+ and data- connectors (much like having two or three USB ports on a normal computer) but consolidated the ground/5V reference. I could be wrong, but it would make sense.
Lets call the stock 5 pin data connectors (2 wires) USB1. This is where MHL is conventionally sent through and all sycing can be completed through, 5 pin cable or 11 pin cable. If samsung added two additional USB ports to the single connector, lets say MHL is now over USB2 (wires inaccessible to 5 pin connectors). This frees up bandwidth and COM ports on USB1 and USB3 to use for accessories like a USB hard drive and keyboard/mouse. On a 5 pin connector, however, only USB1 is accessible. The Samsung 11pin to 5pin MHL adapter simply moves the data+/- from USB2 to USB1 (standard 5 pin location), so with the adapter you are syncing/exporting video over USB2 on the phone with a standard 5pin cable.
My thinking is such: If you plug in the OEM 11pin MHL adapter, it will also have access to the standard 5pin USB1 connection. Since USB2 is used for MHL, you can then plug any OTG device into the micro USB connector on the MHL adapter to make use of it. The only problem here is power (or lack thereof). By plugging in a USB hub with a discrete power source, plugging this into the MHL adapter, and plugging in the USB device of choice into the HUB, you *SHOULD* be able to get simultaneous data and HDMI. This assumes they put the standard 5 pins to the connector on the side of the MHL adapter and only wired the HDMI to the USB2 area.
Alternatively, you *SHOULD* be able to plug the micro USB cable from the MHL adapter into a computer, and simultaneously be able to sync files while outputting HDMI video. It sort of just comes down to being able to provide power to the MHL adapter on the +5V pin while using the data pins to access the phone. As soon as I have my MHL I'll figure it out, but that could be a bit. If anybody has access to a pinout from a Samsung 11 pin micro USB that would be helpful too.
Again, just dreaming here. I don't know anything about this, but if I was the engineer at Samsung I would choose this over analog outputs like Apple used for their giant connector.

kthung said:
I'm not really sure why people think they NEED MHL and USB OTG simultaneously to get a "desktop-like experience". You can already accomplish this with just a plain MHL cable and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse as was demonstrated in the Connectivity Demo video on youtube.
Edit: Actually I just remembered about portable hard drives. If you want to hook up a mouse, keyboard AND hard drive I wonder if you can plug all three into a powered USB hub connected to a bluetooth dongle. Hmm...
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for me at least i already have several keyboards and mice ... none are bluetooth.
I'm looking for the cheapest option available.

I'm just hoping someone releases a cable with 4 plugs:
Male MHL - To Phone Obviously
Female MicroUSB: To plug in charger
Female HDMI - To Display
Female USB - To USB Device
That's all I want... should cost less than $2 to make, just sell it for $20 and I'd be happy.

v8bait said:
I believe this is already capable. Everything I say here is purely speculative, but what I see is that Samsung moved to a 11-pin connector for MHL and the standard 5-pin is no longer functioning. To call it MHL, they probably have to use the same standards for data encoding... but they simply "moved" the pins.
I put "moved" in quotes because of the way in which a standard 4 pin USB cable works (or 5 pin for our case)... you have a +5V, Ground, Data + and Data - (one data to phone, one data from phone, carrying ALL data). Since our phones still sync via 5-pin cables, this means the 5 pins are still "hot" for data like all other phones. I am presuming, that for the 11-pin connector, Samsung simply added a few more data+ and data- connectors (much like having two or three USB ports on a normal computer) but consolidated the ground/5V reference. I could be wrong, but it would make sense.
Lets call the stock 5 pin data connectors (2 wires) USB1. This is where MHL is conventionally sent through and all sycing can be completed through, 5 pin cable or 11 pin cable. If samsung added two additional USB ports to the single connector, lets say MHL is now over USB2 (wires inaccessible to 5 pin connectors). This frees up bandwidth and COM ports on USB1 and USB3 to use for accessories like a USB hard drive and keyboard/mouse. On a 5 pin connector, however, only USB1 is accessible. The Samsung 11pin to 5pin MHL adapter simply moves the data+/- from USB2 to USB1 (standard 5 pin location), so with the adapter you are syncing/exporting video over USB2 on the phone with a standard 5pin cable.
My thinking is such: If you plug in the OEM 11pin MHL adapter, it will also have access to the standard 5pin USB1 connection. Since USB2 is used for MHL, you can then plug any OTG device into the micro USB connector on the MHL adapter to make use of it. The only problem here is power (or lack thereof). By plugging in a USB hub with a discrete power source, plugging this into the MHL adapter, and plugging in the USB device of choice into the HUB, you *SHOULD* be able to get simultaneous data and HDMI. This assumes they put the standard 5 pins to the connector on the side of the MHL adapter and only wired the HDMI to the USB2 area.
Alternatively, you *SHOULD* be able to plug the micro USB cable from the MHL adapter into a computer, and simultaneously be able to sync files while outputting HDMI video. It sort of just comes down to being able to provide power to the MHL adapter on the +5V pin while using the data pins to access the phone. As soon as I have my MHL I'll figure it out, but that could be a bit. If anybody has access to a pinout from a Samsung 11 pin micro USB that would be helpful too.
Again, just dreaming here. I don't know anything about this, but if I was the engineer at Samsung I would choose this over analog outputs like Apple used for their giant connector.
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hi v8bait, are you able to get data thru the micro usb port at the side of the 11-pin mhl adapter? i was thinking of using the motorola lapdock with my s3 thru the mhl adaptor (other then a micro hdmi male connector, the lapdock also has a micro usb male connector that apparently send out power as well as push keyboard/trackpad data upstream) - if it works, we can have an inexpensive "clambook"

Just to recap,
Will this we possible:
Official MHL adapter -> hdmi to monitor.
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>OTG cable> Powered USB hub> USB keyboard & mouse.
In other words, the PC Experience with a keyboard and mouse.
Dont really want to spend the money to buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse when the USB ones can work just fine (theoretically).

romulusram said:
Just to recap,
Will this we possible:
Official MHL adapter -> hdmi to monitor.
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>OTG cable> Powered USB hub> USB keyboard & mouse.
In other words, the PC Experience with a keyboard and mouse.
Dont really want to spend the money to buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse when the USB ones can work just fine (theoretically).
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I am also very interested in this exact thing. Using USB devices (multiple ones, e.g. plugging a powered USB hub into S III and then plugging them in) but also putting out S III video to HDMI.
However the other workaround is using AllShare Cast. In fact that is the route I'll likely go, because of the other unique advantages of AllShare Cast (i.e. using it for presentations to screens, etc.)
So: has anyone plugged a powered USB hub into S III and used multiple devices? Such as a keyboard and mouse?
I also want to use this S III more as a computer. the other perfect thing I wish I could buy would be a keyboard case, like the one available for iphone, so I can prop the S III up on a kickstand and use a real mini-QWERTY physical keyboard.

macdroid01 said:
I am also very interested in this exact thing. Using USB devices (multiple ones, e.g. plugging a powered USB hub into S III and then plugging them in) but also putting out S III video to HDMI.
However the other workaround is using AllShare Cast. In fact that is the route I'll likely go, because of the other unique advantages of AllShare Cast (i.e. using it for presentations to screens, etc.)
So: has anyone plugged a powered USB hub into S III and used multiple devices? Such as a keyboard and mouse?
I also want to use this S III more as a computer. the other perfect thing I wish I could buy would be a keyboard case, like the one available for iphone, so I can prop the S III up on a kickstand and use a real mini-QWERTY physical keyboard.
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We're in the same boat; i want to use the s3 like a mini computer too. I think it'd be great for business travel, when i dont really need a laptop during the day but want something when i'm back in hotel room. I'd much rather use hotel TV instead of a laptop because that's what i am used to at home... pc hooked to TV.
I've been planning to use the allshare cast dongle too, but they dont seem to be available yet. I was thinking HDMI out with the allshare.. charging with the wireless charging kit and then keyboard and mouse with USB OTG. My logitech unifying receiver for keyboard/mouse works perfectly i just need the wireless charging and allshare dongle to be released.
For what it's worth I tried a powered USB hub and could not get it to work with the s3.

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For what it's worth I tried a powered USB hub and could not get it to work with the s3.
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Wait so your saying you tried a (a) powered USB hub with a OTG cable connected to the phone or you tried a (b) powered USB hub connected with a OTG cable to the MHL adapter and then to the phone?
If it was (a) then there are some vids out there of ppl using powered USB hubs.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

So has anyone received their Official MHL adapater and tried USB OTG?
Very interested in this.,,

I'm puzzled that there aren't any more postings about this kind of stuff. I was expecting the GS3 to be easy to use as a "PC" replacement but it seems no one besides us few wanted to do that ? A simple cable should have done it but I'd even be willing to shell out 40-50$ for a decent dock that would do just that

romulusram said:
So has anyone received their Official MHL adapater and tried USB OTG?
Very interested in this.,,
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Me too.
But it is possible to get that this way working:
Code:
S3 -> Mobile Fun Connection Kit -> microusb -> HDTV Adapter TIP (5 to 11 Pin Converter) -> MHL HDMI adapter
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-> USB -> keyboard etc.
Links
http://www.mobilefun.com/35462-mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3.htm
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EPL-FU10BEGSTA

Maybe I'm not reading these posts correctly but I am using an usb keyboard and a usb mouse on my S3 with no problems using these two accessories:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-2-...e=UTF8&qid=1343845994&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+hub
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-OTG...UTF8&qid=1343846045&sr=1-3&keywords=otg+cable
Have my keyboard and mouse plugged into the usb hub and then the usb hub into my usb OTG cable which of course plugs into the S3. Everything's working on my end.

romulusram said:
So has anyone received their Official MHL adapater and tried USB OTG?
Very interested in this.,,
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I have the official MHL adapter and there is no female USB port on it for OTG

badbeat33 said:
Maybe I'm not reading these posts correctly but I am using an usb keyboard and a usb mouse on my S3 with no problems using these two accessories:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-2-...e=UTF8&qid=1343845994&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+hub
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-OTG...UTF8&qid=1343846045&sr=1-3&keywords=otg+cable
Have my keyboard and mouse plugged into the usb hub and then the usb hub into my usb OTG cable which of course plugs into the S3. Everything's working on my end.
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You are not reading it right.
they want to use the MHL adapter, too.
As far as i can tell, the MHL adapter needs to be in the phone, not a hub. it is all dictated (the output being OTG, or MHL) by the impedance of what is plugged in. It is an either or situation.
Perhaps with a firmware update they MIGHT be able to run both signals and split it.. but i doubt it.