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I am debating returning my sgs II, while I still have 15 days left to return it to wait for the Galaxy Nexus. I love the hercules, and im not returning it because of problems, I just want ICS and I feel like even though its a top rated phone, it will take forever to get ICs on it. I also think the Galaxy Nexus GSM version will be available around the same time as verizon version. Anyone have any input?
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I am debating returning my sgs II, while I still have 15 days left to return it to wait for the Galaxy Nexus. I love the hercules, and im not returning it because of problems, I just want ICS and I feel like even though its a top rated phone, it will take forever to get ICs on it. I also think the Galaxy Nexus GSM version will be available around the same time as verizon version. Anyone have any input?
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I think you will be waiting atleast a couple of months after it released on verizon before you see the GSM version. Plus there are quite a few devices either identicle or very similar to ours. So I think once one gets ics the porting will be much easier.
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I think you will be waiting atleast a couple of months after it released on verizon before you see the GSM version. Plus there are quite a few devices either identicle or very similar to ours. So I think once one gets ics the porting will be much easier.
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Yeah its a hard decision because I really like this phone....just don't wanna pass up the time I am able to return it for full price, and then regret not returning it. You really think it will be a couple months for a gsm version? Why do you say that?
return it, cancel it, and get another SGS2 from another store
then you auto extent to another 15 days
Be careful with this. Took my Tmobile gs2 back because of the screen issues and rebooting. Got a new one with minimal line issues and it seems snappier, but the guy told me it was the last exchange in the store. Me thinking I had 10 more days. Apparently since I returned an amaze and bought a BRAND NEW phone, the 14 days did not reset for me. I was always told anytime I had a new device it would reset the return period.
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return it, cancel it, and get another SGS2 from another store
then you auto extent to another 15 days
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AllGamer said:
return it, cancel it, and get another SGS2 from another store
then you auto extent to another 15 days
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Well, I bought outright, so i actually get 30 days to return Its only 15 days if you buy with contract at a discounted price. And I have thought of that also...i still have til the 15th so ill give it a few more days and see if we get any news about the nexus I guess.... i dunno
Galaxy Nexus comes mid November 17 to 28 according to the fans in the GN forum.
personally i'm not excited at all about the GN, it's like a side-upgrade compared to SGS2
if you want a HD 720 device that is as best as you can get for Tmobile
otherwise SGS2 is the top of the hill at the moment spec wise
Considering how long it took for the Galaxy S2X to show up on Telus doorstep I wouldn't hold my breath for any upgrades.
It sucks as two good phones will be out but you'll have to decide of which two has the more important features and myself I love the screen on the Galaxy S2X
its verizon exclusive as most people have said so u will be waiting a while
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its verizon exclusive as most people have said so u will be waiting a while
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i'm thinking of preorder galaxy nexus from uk.
but i just wish [email protected]#$ing google update their website!
i worry after i preordered from uk, then google open up their website and i can order the phone directly from google.
AllGamer said:
Galaxy Nexus comes mid November 17 to 28 according to the fans in the GN forum.
personally i'm not excited at all about the GN, it's like a side-upgrade compared to SGS2
if you want a HD 720 device that is as best as you can get for Tmobile
otherwise SGS2 is the top of the hill at the moment spec wise
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I agree with the hardware being a side-upgrade...its ics that I want
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movieaddict said:
its verizon exclusive as most people have said so u will be waiting a while
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I'm not so sure...didn't Verizon take the exclusive off their banner? Also, nothing has been announced of it yet..
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Also lets hope the Galaxy Nexus does not suffer with the screen lines and blobs that we are
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I'm not so sure...didn't Verizon take the exclusive off their banner? Also, nothing has been announced of it yet..
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They did. But you will still will be waiting 3-4 months for a gsm version also keep in mind importing it might be more money then just waiting for the release. It is suppose to be released on Verizon right after black Friday. It was stated by various android sites recently. I wouldn't upgrade to it. If we get cm support or miui we will probably get ics within weeks after source drops.
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They did. But you will still will be waiting 3-4 months for a gsm version also keep in mind importing it might be more money then just waiting for the release. It is suppose to be released on Verizon right after black Friday. It was stated by various android sites recently. I wouldn't upgrade to it. If we get cm support or miui we will probably get ics within weeks after source drops.
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Hopefully...either way maybe we will be auprised and the GSM nexus will be offered at the same time at best buy or something like that. I just wish they would tell us SOMETHING
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im keeping mine ,the leaked speculation for the next galaxy phone are incredible...5mp camera and no sd slot ,that imo is going backward .i know the resolution is there and so is ICS but i can wait for it and if the next galaxy phone is anything close to being as planned then i would think it would be the right decision to keep the phone....unless you just got a bunch of money to blow then go for it
stick with the GalaxyS2 boss! like someone said earlier in this thread - we'll get ICS support fairly quickly with a ROM after source hits. specs are better on our phone and the lack of microsd card was a bit of a deal killer for us.
i'm getting galaxy nexus with 1280x720 resolutions! that is like putting your home desktop monitor in your pocket! haha
and 4.65 screen which the GS2 can never give me!
brian6685 said:
I am debating returning my sgs II, while I still have 15 days left to return it to wait for the Galaxy Nexus. I love the hercules, and im not returning it because of problems, I just want ICS and I feel like even though its a top rated phone, it will take forever to get ICs on it. I also think the Galaxy Nexus GSM version will be available around the same time as verizon version. Anyone have any input?
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I'm debating doing the same. FWIW, I think the int'l GSM version of the GN will be available perhaps even before the Verizon version. If you're willing to pay full retail, it's an attractive option.
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stick with the GalaxyS2 boss! like someone said earlier in this thread - we'll get ICS support fairly quickly with a ROM after source hits. specs are better on our phone and the lack of microsd card was a bit of a deal killer for us.
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Hopefully..I'm leaning towards keeping it..using my nexus s right now. I unrooted and restored my gs2 today and packed it back in the box..maybe I'll go unpack it tonight lol. I'm using ics port right now btw. It's nice, that's why I want ics..I should stop teasing myself
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So now after a few months on the market. Is this phone still worth purchasing or is there something significantly better coming along within 3 months that will blow this out of the water. If the products that are coming out are comparable I still see this as a viable option for an upgrade from the Thunderbolt (or am I insane?).
Anyways, hope to get some feedback regarding this to assist. Thanks!
Kind of hard to answer since most new phones are announced at mobile world congress which is next month. As of this second on Verizon there is nothing better. You can argue the rezound is equal with each having pros and cons but nothing is in the pipeline yet.
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staticx57 said:
Kind of hard to answer since most new phones are announced at mobile world congress which is next month. As of this second on Verizon there is nothing better. You can argue the rezound is equal with each having pros and cons but nothing is in the pipeline yet.
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This Mobile world congress convention that you mentioned. The phones that are going to be announced here will still have release dates that are months away from the actual event right? So best case those 'new' phones will be coming out ~5-6 months from now or are they actually being released to the public at this event?
If the resound is the only comparable phone, the Verizon Galaxy Nexus does indeed still sound way better (for me at least).
it depends on what your looking for, better hardware specs, pure android with great support with updates, or themed android with a lack of updates. Not saying those phones announced at CES are crappy, but if you want a phone that is guaranteed dev support/android updates then i'd recommend the Nexus. Yea they may have other phones that may beat it in hardware specs, but will those phones get the updates and the support that the nexus is and will be getting??? I seriously doubt it, not saying that they won't get support at all, but if u want the best experience of android, i'd recommend the nexus, i had the Epic 4g Touch(Galaxy S II) and i liked it, but i LOVE my nexus, it does everything i need it to, no complaints here, and the battery is great i get right at 2 days on one charge, u should get it, u won't regret it
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it depends on what your looking for, better hardware specs, pure android with great support with updates, or themed android with a lack of updates. Not saying those phones announced at CES are crappy, but if you want a phone that is guaranteed dev support/android updates then i'd recommend the Nexus. Yea they may have other phones that may beat it in hardware specs, but will those phones get the updates and the support that the nexus is and will be getting??? I seriously doubt it, not saying that they won't get support at all, but if u want the best experience of android, i'd recommend the nexus, i had the Epic 4g Touch(Galaxy S II) and i liked it, but i LOVE my nexus, it does everything i need it to, no complaints here, and the battery is great i get right at 2 days on one charge, u should get it, u won't regret it
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I am on the verge of pulling the pin and just getting it. Is the amount of development activity similar to what it was with the Nexus One (my last nexus phone)? I remember crack flashing nightly with all the goodies that were available. I took a looksey in the development forum (I will be with Verizon if I get it) and saw a few good things in there.
Are any of you guys currently running a custom ROM and if so, has the custom ROM development still in its infancy or is there some decent work being put out by all the developers (donations to custom developers are a part of the cost of the phone in my book )?
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Are any of you guys currently running a custom ROM and if so, has the custom ROM development still in its infancy or is there some decent work being put out by all the developers (donations to custom developers are a part of the cost of the phone in my book )?
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Well the difference between stock 4.0.1 and AOKP+Franco was just ridiculous.
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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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If I was going to buy a phone today I would still get the Galaxy Nexus. 6 Months to a year from now will of course be a different story. If you live in the United States we always seem to wait forever for the best stuff. EU seems to be ahead of us when it comes to the latest and greatest phones.
Good Luck!
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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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Sure, for about 9 months. Then the GN gets Jellybean, or Jello, or whatever. Meanwhile the GS3 gets a "Value Pack" which is subsequently pulled before it's even done because Samsung wants to sell the GS4 to you. Vote with your wallet, and vote for hardware which will get 2 years of support. Even if you flash, having up-to-date drivers makes it a lot easier to build custom ROM's.
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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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Since you aren't living in the United States. MWC will announce Galaxy S3 and the U.S. will get it like 8 months later because each carrier wants something to "woo" their customers with exclusive features and all these small little variants of the Galaxy S3.
By the time that all comes out, it'll be launched with a old OS and Nexus 4 will be announced.
I stay committed to only Nexus devices simply because they will last longer. Especially with a great development community.
Sometimes, the community makes the phone.
Hi Guys,
Just sold my phone (t989) and need a replacement. Should I get the galaxy nexus now?
Is it better to wait for S3?
Just not sure...any advice would help
vomer said:
Hi Guys,
Just sold my phone (t989) and need a replacement. Should I get the galaxy nexus now?
Is it better to wait for S3?
Just not sure...any advice would help
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You really need to try it yourself to make that decision.
I have a feeling a lot of unhappy owners out there are displeased with their purchase because they relied on someone else's opinion and didn't try it themselves.
adrynalyne said:
You really need to try it yourself to make that decision.
I have a feeling a lot of unhappy owners out there are displeased with their purchase because they relied on someone else's opinion and didn't try it themselves.
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just trying to get a sense of the market/time to purchase a phone.
I know both phones would be awesome but wanted to understand if it is the right time?
My opinnion is that you should w8...if you take the decision to buy it now later you will be sad because you see the technology is still growing fast, so just w8 and you'll see
Wait for S3! It'll be much much better than nexus!
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1) The S3 doesn't even officially exist
2) If you wait for the latest and greatest then you'll be waiting forever
3) If you you're on the fence about getting a Nexus device, personally, I wouldn't.
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1) The S3 doesn't even officially exist
2) If you wait for the latest and greatest then you'll be waiting forever
3) If you you're on the fence about getting a Nexus device, personally, I wouldn't.
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This...
The S3 has not been announced yet and when it does it'll have touchwiz of some sort. It depends on the type of phone you want. If you want a pure Google experience (which is I why I purchased this phone) a Nexus is the way to go.
There will also be some new rumored device.
Get the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy S3 will be announced and the U.S. will get it like six months later (okay this might be a little exaggerated) but take a look at the U.S. release date for Galaxy S2. S2 was announced way long ago and Europe has had it.
U.S. carriers want to differentiate their version of the Galaxy S3. This will take months.
By the time S3 arrives at the states, the next Nexus device will be out.
Just get the Galaxy Nexus right now and enjoy it. It's a flagship Google device and maintained by Google meaning you won't have to wait for the manufacturer.
Edit: Check it out, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_S2#Launch_and_availability
UK May 1, 2011
Canada Bell Mobility,
Virgin Mobile Canada July, 2011[22][23] Samsung Galaxy S II 4G
Canada Telus October, 2011 Samsung Galaxy S II X[citation needed]
Canada Rogers Wireless November, 2011 Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (i727R)
United States Sprint September 16, 2011 Samsung 'EPIC 4G Touch'[25]
United States AT&T November 6, 2011 Samsung Galaxy S II AT&T
United States T-Mobile October 12, 2011 Samsung Galaxy S II T-Mobile
United States U.S. Cellular March 1, 2012 Samsung Galaxy S II U.S. Cellular
Caribbean Digicel December 21, 2011 Samsung Galaxy S II Digicel
Galaxy Nexus Release Date: November 17, 2011
If your needing a new phone I say get it. This will be one of the only phones that gets the updates first and you won't be waiting a year for a simple update..
if you want a more open platform i'd go with the nexus, else the SIII might be nice as well
treypwns said:
If your needing a new phone I say get it. This will be one of the only phones that gets the updates first and you won't be waiting a year for a simple update..
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This is one of the main reasons I'm considering getting the nexus. Especially considering the radio problems that may or may not be overblown, I'm sick and tired of waiting for the other manufacturers (which I know Sammy is included, but you get my point) to get their updates out. I really want the rezound, but I don't want to be waiting for 6 months when the next release of android comes out for the Ril or whatever else is needed to be released. I just am really not sure what I want to do.
Two questions, how rampant are the bluetooth issues on the gnex? And are there any other "major" problems with it. BY may be a dealbreaker if they are bad enough, but if it's overblown then ill probably go ahead and get the gnex. I'm tired of not having fully functional ics.
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Wait for S3! It'll be much much better than nexus!
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Why are you comparing a future phone/future technology that doesn't even exist with Nexus?
You might as well say Galaxy 6 will kill any tablet and phone on the market now so wait for it!
1454 said:
Two questions, how rampant are the bluetooth issues on the gnex? And are there any other "major" problems with it. BY may be a dealbreaker if they are bad enough, but if it's overblown then ill probably go ahead and get the gnex. I'm tired of not having fully functional ics.
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Everything works well for me and I've been running stock since I bought the phone. The battery life is mediocre though but you can always get the extended battery.
I need to stress this again, you DO NOT NEED to flash any ROM to enjoy the beauty of ICS. I feel that new android users always thought they HAVE to flash a rom to get the phone working well which is NOT TRUE. At least totally not true for GNex.
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Everything works well for me and I've been running stock since I bought the phone. The battery life is mediocre though but you can always get the extended battery.
I need to stress this again, you DO NOT NEED to flash any ROM to enjoy the beauty of ICS. I feel that new android users always thought they HAVE to flash a rom to get the phone working well which is NOT TRUE. At least totally not true for GNex.
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I typically run stock and just root. Which I only do that for tethering and things of that nature. I don't really care much for themeing and things of that nature. But I really like the folder options, swype away notifications and other added features in ics. That's why I want it. I wasn't like this when gb came out, I could have cared less about it. So in that regard I'm not overly zealous on cracked flashing. Plus I hate resetting up may stuff. I just wanted to make sure I knew all the problems I might incounter before jumping in feet first.
It was nice having a Galaxy S III, but I've had it with my poor battery performance and lack of software updates from AT&T. (Considering the Galaxy S IV gets updates while we don't even have multi-window yet, I'm beginning to think AT&T has dropped support for it already so customers upgrade.) I'm gonna end up getting the next Nexus phone.
By the time the next Nexus phone comes out, it'll be a gen and a half old. Are there any good buyback programs you are familiar with, or would ebay be the best? What do you think the value will be around the October/November timeframe?
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It was nice having a Galaxy S III, but I've had it with my poor battery performance and lack of software updates from AT&T. (Considering the Galaxy S IV gets updates while we don't even have multi-window yet, I'm beginning to think AT&T has dropped support for it already so customers upgrade.) I'm gonna end up getting the next Nexus phone.
By the time the next Nexus phone comes out, it'll be a gen and a half old. Are there any good buyback programs you are familiar with, or would ebay be the best? What do you think the value will be around the October/November timeframe?
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I would say craigslist, i have sold ALL my devices on craigslist and it works the best, and you get the most money, but you really have to have expierence or else you would get scammed. You could trade or sell you're s3 on craigslist. And you would gain, but you have to meet up. Its really good, but you just have to be well expiereced. Hit the thanks button if i helped. :good:
Can.I.Haz.Jelly.Bean? said:
It was nice having a Galaxy S III, but I've had it with my poor battery performance and lack of software updates from AT&T. (Considering the Galaxy S IV gets updates while we don't even have multi-window yet, I'm beginning to think AT&T has dropped support for it already so customers upgrade.) I'm gonna end up getting the next Nexus phone.
By the time the next Nexus phone comes out, it'll be a gen and a half old. Are there any good buyback programs you are familiar with, or would ebay be the best? What do you think the value will be around the October/November timeframe?
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This thread is going to be locked.
And I would go with swappa. Its free and doesn't allow junk devices. And At&t wouldn't drop support for this phone, it will probably get 4.3.
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First, yes it probably will be locked
Second, swappa is probably the best place to get a fair deal and amount for your phone
Third, with the way ATT handles updates we might, maybe, possibly see 4.2.2 made official on the I747. About the only way to see 4.3 will be through an aosp based Rom (CM,AOKP, etc).
Fourth, the S3 was put on the End Of Life list about the time the Note 2 was released.
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First, yes it probably will be locked
Second, swappa is probably the best place to get a fair deal and amount for your phone
Third, with the way ATT handles updates we might, maybe, possibly see 4.2.2 made official on the I747. About the only way to see 4.3 will be through an aosp based Rom (CM,AOKP, etc).
Fourth, the S3 was put on the End Of Life list about the time the Note 2 was released.
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As he said. Thread closed.
Just an FYI ATT generally EOL a device after about 6 months Max.
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Now that HTC have confirmed they are not providing any further OS updates for the One X and the One X+, I started a thread in the One X+ forum with a survey monkey link to give us all the chance to tell HTC what we think of their decision. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey. The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49619827
Many users are frustrated that HTC don't listen to their customers so I compiled the survey to give us all the opportunity to express our collected opinion. Carpe diem!
Yeah, really bad move from HTC! :/
yeah, you pay good money for a device with good spec and you expect, because of the spec you would get more updates other than just JB, poor move HTC
It's not that I'm disappointed by the amount of updates, it's more that the updates HTC gave us constantly broke things. One of the first Updates added a new bootloader which broke the compactiblity of CM10, the update to 3.20.XXX.3 added a new touch driver which broke compactiblity to touch in recovery (at least if you still want to be able to use mass storage/adb) and the 4.2.2 update broke our wifi in october and htc still didn't bother to deliver a fix after almost half a year! I would have prefered when they had just made a single update from 4.0 to 4.2 and even keeped sense 4 as long as they had delived a fully working rom.
An other problem of htc are their kernel source releases: they always wait till the end of the 90-days-period after the rom-update before they release it, even though they definitly had it since the release of the rom update. Take an example at samsung: they haven't updated the note 3 to 4.4yet but the kernel source is already there!
I will never, ever again buy another HTC or Tegra phone.
Vote with your wallet, and don't buy HTC again. I certainly won't.
I think all phone manufacturers should keep phones updated for 2 years minimum as that is how long most phone contracts are for.
In the EU they are already covered by a 2 year warranty, i would expect the update issue to be forced in this region for the same reason.
Here is hoping any way
It is funny that for example LG will upgrade some low end devices to 4.4,a HTC wont upgrade One X and One X+ and they still have decent hardware and very nice display...shame on you HTC
I made my views pretty clear. HTC won't listen, if they do, it'll be a half ar**d support like the desire, desire HD...etc etc. Next time i'm just getting a google nexus phone outright and a 30 day rolling contract. Bye Bye HTC, hope you either learn or sink
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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Rotten Ross said:
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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What are the features on Kitkat that we don't have on 4.2.2 Sense 5 ?
I had the Frustration of updates when i was on desire z 2.2 and the upgrade to 2.3 (download manager and the toggle buttons) was extremely late in my country
but since hox started 4.1 i have not found Google adding any thing revolutionary that make a lot of difference to the device experience
I have been using HTC because of the build and the design of devices, only thing i hate about how htc handled hox is the brokern wifi on the current build, it has been disappointing
Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers
Yep waste of space thread, if you want kit kat flash one of the 2 variants posted in this section.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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Why do you look for a side to put a blame on? You're still using the word "support" for upgrading a sofware to an upper version, but let stay in terms, if we're looking for "ethical", this does NOT mean support. I can get many things as your opinion, but this is NOT. HTC does still support One X, it is not upgrading the software to another major version, that is it. Don't wanna look annoying but I am a software and management consultant and make lots of Support and Maintenance agreements, what you want is not support.
Well, you want an ethical solution.. In Turkey One X was still sold I think ended about 4-5 months ago, and with 3 year contracts. It is also sold for a long time, may be not in Western countries or in Oceania, but deciding just for those countries is not legal right? So, how long the upgrade process should last then? till 2016? 2017? This has no ethical solution. You used the key word, most. This is the best way to measure the economic point of view Would you like to make a market analysis to find out when the One X is sold most? Would you choose a specific month of a year? This is a dead-end bro, believe me.
Again, don't wanna look annoying, but then get a crapsung, you do know they do update their phones further, that is clear from Sensation/S2.
This is how HTC makes their market strategy and you might say that it is clear that ther strategy is not working, but most of experts beliece upgrades are not the main reason for this.
Anyways, I don't wanna "troll" in the topic where people write their opinions, just wanted to share mine.
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But then are we looking for an ethical solution, if we choose the start point as global release? I may have bought my phone as soon as it is released in my country and it could have been December 2012, and I might have gotten it with a three year contract. Who has the blame for my situation then? And the two is years is something just we made up since "most" of the users get the phone in two-year contracts and the warranty is for two years.
One last update.. But we still haven't reached May 2014, and till then Google might release a 4.5? Wouldn't we want it then?
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The only way we can change things regarding updates is to try to evoke a law where the minimal update timeframe is set
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Well that´s another Problem with all the phone brands who build Android phones.
The updates take much too long to get released for the phones.
If I would follow your logic we still should get Android Kit Kat since it was released in November. A better example would be 4.3 which was released for Nexus phones 2 months before 4.2 was released for HOX(+).
It effectively means we got 2 big Android revisions (4.1 + 4.2) which means 1 year of support but it was only stretched from April 2012 (official release) to July/August 2013 (last update)
And just for your interest. It doesn´t matter how long the carrier contracts run or when it was released in YOUR country. It´s about unbranded devices which are officially released. Carrier branded phones shouldn´t be bought anymore and/or the consumer shouldn´t choose them anymore to make clear that the way carriers are working isn´t consumer friendly but that´s a whole different point