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Disassembling the EPIC 4G?

Has anyone done it before? There is a video on youtube, but it only goes as far as the keyboard. I'm looking to get to the LCD to fix/replace it because of discoloration from water damage. Anyone thinks it's possible?

I remember a thread like this being made a while ago...if you're on a computer, just search and you should find it. I can't post a link, but I think the guy in that thread replaced it succesfully.
There was also alotta chatter about insurance covering it
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Here's a tear down of the Epic 4G:
http://www.chipworks.com/en/technical-competitive-analysis/resources/recent-teardowns/2010/09/teardown-of-the-samsung-epic-4g-smart-phone/
Try asking a repair technician. The truth is, body repairs can be quite pricey - to the point where you might as well be getting a new phone in many cases.

I watched someone else take mine apart. There are an awful lot of little screws, but you can definitely seperate the case, the screen, and the actual guts in about 10 or 15 minutes.

DiGi760 said:
I watched someone else take mine apart. There are an awful lot of little screws, but you can definitely seperate the case, the screen, and the actual guts in about 10 or 15 minutes.
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The question then is can you get it back together ;-)
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sauron0101 said:
Here's a tear down of the Epic 4G:
http://www.chipworks.com/en/technic.../teardown-of-the-samsung-epic-4g-smart-phone/
Try asking a repair technician. The truth is, body repairs can be quite pricey - to the point where you might as well be getting a new phone in many cases.
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I had TEP with my BB curve and I smashed it [was REALLLLLLY angry at my gf...she wasn't worth the BB :'( ] and I took it to a corporate store, and he fixed the screen in front of my face and I walked right out lol but that was a couple years ago
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The phone still works, I just wouldn't want to look at pictures or watch videos on it since the color is all messed up. It's been about 2 weeks since the accident and it's still going! I just want to study this just for reference just in case it does go out. The replacement cost $60 on ebay, so I'd definitely do that, especially when I don't have insurance with Sprint (I think it still costs more than DIY) and I don't think Samsung fixes water damage through its warranty.
Oh well.
Thanks for the link! I'll check it out!

being a technician at an indirect sprint store, its a pain in the ass to separate the LED screen and the glass itself. the very best way to do it is either go to a 3rd party sprint store that has a full service(repair) center and either have them do an exchange if the tech is a nice guy (considering its water damage) or replace the part (which would be free as long as you have TEP). PM me with more questions if you have them

kzn said:
Has anyone done it before? There is a video on youtube, but it only goes as far as the keyboard. I'm looking to get to the LCD to fix/replace it because of discoloration from water damage. Anyone thinks it's possible?
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Yeah, I've done it at least 20-30 times now. It's EXTREMELY difficult to get the lcd out and you'll more than likely end up breaking your phone.

br//0k3/n said:
Yeah, I've done it at least 20-30 times now. It's EXTREMELY difficult to get the lcd out and you'll more than likely end up breaking your phone.
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Yea, you're definitely right about the LED itself. It's close to paper thin and made of a glass type material. it will break if you try to get it out. it's glued pretty good.

flawlessbmxr said:
Yea, you're definitely right about the LED itself. It's close to paper thin and made of a glass type material. it will break if you try to get it out. it's glued pretty good.
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I took mine apart, lots of screws. Honestly the hardest part was removing the back cover that goes over the motherboard. I used a very small flathead to pry up underneath where the little notches are on the side. There's a lot of clip points and 2 of them at the battery are very hard to get off. Once that's off, the rest is cake. Separating the screen was a non-issue, as mine was already broken/cracked.

just to chim,e in on this ancient thread. i used a guitar pick instead of a flat head. i thought a metal screwdriver would scuff and mar up the plastic cover over the board.

Another protip: the notches on the second to last plastic cover serve a purpose -getting that back half to snap onto the phone is a huge pain in the ass, - i put a flathead into the slits and pushed down and snap snap snap snap motherboard cover was back in and my battery case didn't bulge.

kzn said:
Has anyone done it before? There is a video on youtube, but it only goes as far as the keyboard. I'm looking to get to the LCD to fix/replace it because of discoloration from water damage. Anyone thinks it's possible?
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I've replaced my LED screen before by myself, took a few hours. This video helped me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeO89VGAPuU

zvonkorp said:
I took mine apart, lots of screws. Honestly the hardest part was removing the back cover that goes over the motherboard. I used a very small flathead to pry up underneath where the little notches are on the side. There's a lot of clip points and 2 of them at the battery are very hard to get off. Once that's off, the rest is cake. Separating the screen was a non-issue, as mine was already broken/cracked.
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Is there a water sensor inside the phone, I've always wondered if the battery was the only place
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Water Damage?

How can I tell if my warranty is going to be turned down for water damage? I have never had it in the water before, but the sticker on the back has the red crosses it.

I'm pretty sure that circle goes all dark red if you get water on it
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jimbub said:
I'm pretty sure that circle goes all dark red if you get water on it
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You are right. the sticker will go all red or all pink depending on who made it. its suppose to have the X's in it.

sorry, didn't notice I posted that in the Dev forum...thanks for moving.

Wouldn't you know if you get your phone wet? I think you already know the answer to your question here I mean tray now.
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In the retail stores we typically don't go by the liquid indicators because frequently they're inaccurate. We usually look for signs of corrosion, condensation or just plain liquid in the device.

A good way to dry your device out is to put it in a sealed ziplock bag with some rice...it works! Revived my girlfriend's iPhone and camera after both became submerged when a water bottle broke in her purse.

The "sticker" is the same litmus paper you use in chemistry- it changes colors with the presence of moisture. When I worked for a regional wireless carrier in my area and someone came in for a warranty replacement, that was the first thing we checked. There are usually 2; one in/around the battery compartment and one on the battery itself. I've also noticed lately some manufacturers put them under the phones housing. I've seen them change just from having your phone in the bathroom when you take a shower. Also, if it gets wet but all seems well, you're not in the clear yet. Sometimes it'll be ok at first but will eventually creep through the phone and corrode terminals/connections. Hope this helps. Its against my religion to use paragraphs.
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Aren't most insurance things covering everything except lost or stolen phones?
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
The "sticker" is the same litmus paper you use in chemistry- it changes colors with the presence of moisture. When I worked for a regional wireless carrier in my area and someone came in for a warranty replacement, that was the first thing we checked. There are usually 2; one in/around the battery compartment and one on the battery itself. I've also noticed lately some manufacturers put them under the phones housing. I've seen them change just from having your phone in the bathroom when you take a shower. Also, if it gets wet but all seems well, you're not in the clear yet. Sometimes it'll be ok at first but will eventually creep through the phone and corrode terminals/connections. Hope this helps. Its against my religion to use paragraphs.
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The iPhone 3 is notorious for being overly sensitive to humidity; simply having your phone on you while you're sweating can get the sensor wet, as can having it in a humid environment such as a steamy bathroom. I haven't heard of anything quite this bad with other manufacturers, but the locations of the moisture indicators was also suboptimal; of the 4(?) in the phone, one is inside the headphone jack, while the other is next to the charging port.
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Aren't most insurance things covering everything except lost or stolen phones?
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Well...the thing about insurance is they want to pay out as little as possible. I've heard of some mobile insurance companies not covering moisture damage. Make sure you read the terms of coverage carefully before you start paying for something that may not help you at all.

Screen cracked already.. :-(

got my phone on the day it came out. loving my SGS2, had my phone in my pocket , took it out to text and i see a hairline crack on the top of the screen. i dont know what the hell happened but my screen is cracked. i do have insurance but since i just got the phone can i return to tmobile and get a new 1 .some1 any1 help on what i can do.

yeah you should be able to just return it if you just got it...
sorry for my ignorance but does the gs2 have gorilla glass?

i have no idea. i doubt it because my phone was in my pocket jus like i always carry my htc sensation and that never happened.i dont think gorilla glass would crack that easy

wow! Lucky you have ins on the phone. Must have been a faulty screen.

Life happens. Did tmo swap it out?
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You can't return a damaged phone. You'll have to go through insurance to exchange it and pay the deductible.. you might get them to sympathize if it has NO other damage but I'd doubt it.

tq745 said:
yeah you should be able to just return it if you just got it...
sorry for my ignorance but does the gs2 have gorilla glass?
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GSM arena seems to think so:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t_mobile-4129.php
I'm not 100% sure though.

I've seen specs in numerous places that state we have gorilla glass. It feels like gorilla glass, I just came from a defy.
I've dropped my defy from 5 feet and it has sustained zero damage to the screen. I've also seen a defy slide off a lap at 3 feet and shatter.
Every piece of glass has its sweet spot. I'm sorry about your screen. It's unlikely that they'll replace it, you'll probably have to use insurance already.
Good luck!
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bighulk666 said:
wow! Lucky you have ins on the phone. Must have been a faulty screen.
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i disagree
there are simply waaaaay to many simple ways to break the screen inside the pocket without one knowing.
it happened to me with many many different phones
since then i learned a screen protector is a must, and a hard case shell is a must
since i started that practice, i've not had another repeat of those broken screen incidents

Take a look to see if the LCD cracked our the gorilla glass. They're two separate pieces. Also if you purchased it at a corporate store it wouldn't hurt to take it in.
You can also try calling cust service and see what they suggest.
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The phone is too big to go in your pocket ,cause when you sit down you are putting pressure on the thin phone and sometime the plastic flex a little will crack the glass. Not like HTC where they have metal in the back . Samsung Phones are allways built like toys.thats the reason why I don't like Samsuk.

makomek said:
The phone is too big to go in your pocket ,cause when you sit down you are putting pressure on the thin phone and sometime the plastic flex a little will crack the glass. Not like HTC where they have metal in the back . Samsung Phones are allways built like toys.thats the reason why I don't like Samsuk.
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Maybe if you wear skinny Jeans, but that's on you if you do....
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Talked to a buddy that works for TMO corporate and he said there is a known problem on some builds of the gs2 where the LCD will have a hairline crack that will show up on it's own. In other words faulty LCD's straight from the factory. If you talk to customer care or a store they should switch it out under warranty. If they question you tell them to look in their internal system under "Known Issues" for the device. On another note he said that's the only major issue they have noted.
Check out this video comparing a drop test between the iPhone 4S vs Samsung Galaxy S2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

imnothimm said:
Maybe if you wear skinny Jeans, but that's on you if you do....
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^^^
f#[email protected] Epic
Well played sir, well played

::tears::
Malike25 said:
Talked to a buddy that works for TMO corporate and he said there is a known problem on some builds of the gs2 where the LCD will have a hairline crack that will show up on it's own. In other words faulty LCD's straight from the factory. If you talk to customer care or a store they should switch it out under warranty. If they question you tell them to look in their internal system under "Known Issues" for the device. On another note he said that's the only major issue they have noted.
Check out this video comparing a drop test between the iPhone 4S vs Samsung Galaxy S2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
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Poser said:
^^^
f#[email protected] Epic
Well played sir, well played
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I do what I can...
Besides, he's clearly here just here to troll.
HTC makes such great phones, just look at the sensation..... Oh wait..
What about the Amaze you ask?
I had the Amaze for two days, and in those two days it froze on me 6 times to where I had to pull the battery and got the unexpected shutdown do you want to notify HTC message.
Six f*****g times!
On top of that, the phone was Laggy as s**t when opening the application drawer or playing 720p videos off the SD.
I'm glad I came back to the SGS2! Otherwise, I never would have known what I'd be missing out on right now if I'd stuck with the Amaze instead of carefully selecting a new SGS2 with no defects.
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"Six f***ing times!" PUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! that made me laugh
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I do what I can...
Besides, he's clearly here just here to troll.
HTC makes such great phones, just look at the sensation.....
I had the Amaze for two days, and in those two days it froze on me 6 times to where I had to pull the battery and got the unexpected shutdown do you want to notify HTC message.
Six f*****g times!
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Malike25 said:
Talked to a buddy that works for TMO corporate and he said there is a known problem on some builds of the gs2 where the LCD will have a hairline crack that will show up on it's own. In other words faulty LCD's straight from the factory. If you talk to customer care or a store they should switch it out under warranty. If they question you tell them to look in their internal system under "Known Issues" for the device. On another note he said that's the only major issue they have noted.
Check out this video comparing a drop test between the iPhone 4S vs Samsung Galaxy S2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
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Definitely a legit issue. To see if is still under warranty, you need to ensure the crack stops when the screen stops. That means the crack shouldn't be on the black glass area that shows the front camera and the sensors.

Sorry to bring this one up from the dead but I am researching an issue on the SAMSUNG Galaxy Nexus where out of nowhere, I have a hairline crack under the topsheet of glass but not affecting the actual display as when looking right at the phone (like I usually do), I don't see it.
For the record, I don't wear skinny jeans. (which are ridiculous for guys).
The crack starts up top about a 1/4 off the left edge and goes diagonally down to the right and is about 1/3 from the top. Sounds like others with the SGN have the same thing.
Is what I describe similar to this? Please see the pictures over here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21343823#post21343823

I'm sorry for your crack. I've had a previous Winmo phone in my pocket, and remember a wrench gently dropping in my lap. Screen shattered. Remember there is flex in your pocket as well.
Incidentally. Have a new Motorolla Cliq2 with T-Mobile wifi calling I'll trade anyone with a SGS2 or similar that is either bricked or screen cracked.
I want to start developing but don't want to use my phone.

Crack in sgs2 benzel !!

Guys
I observed that there is a crack in the benzel of my sgs2. Benzel i mean The plastic lining that wraps around the front glass.
The crack is near the volume buttons.
How easy it is to replace this plastic strip ? Is it risky ?
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Pretty sure you mean bezel, not benzel.
You would probably have to replace the entire housing which is quite risky to do in my opinion. If you don't know what you are doing you could short the board or break something.

Happened to me too.
Is it really so bad that you need to replace it?

Happend to me too. Seems like that part is very fragile.
I think the only way you can replace it is replacing the whole screen and touch panel.
After that one little crack and that mysterious burn mark right next to it (damn alcohol ) i finally decided to buy a case

TheSniperFan said:
Happened to me too.
Is it really so bad that you need to replace it?
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Its not so bad. But there is an another minor crack on the exactly other side of the benzel where power button is present !
Is it because of overheat ? I use my phone while charging and battery temps are at 46 celcius when I do that.
I never dropped my phone.
If I go for a new benzel then will I have to pay for new screen too ? Is the benzel glued to the screen ?
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DaPhinc said:
Happend to me too. Seems like that part is very fragile.
I think the only way you can replace it is replacing the whole screen and touch panel.
After that one little crack and that mysterious burn mark right next to it (damn alcohol ) i finally decided to buy a case
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Buying a case is not an option for me. I nvr dropped my phone. I use it very carefully , I love my sgs2.
Why would I have to replace screen also ?
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You can probably have it replaced at an official Samsung repair center. I'm pretty sure they carry one or two sets -- or can order one for you -- but it'll probably set you back a little.

sachinaik said:
Why would I have to replace screen also ?
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I am not sure about this. But looking at the screen replacement tutorial (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253969) it seems like screen+touchpanel+bezel is a single part. I guess it is somehow glued together. But again, that is just a guess.

just put a little glue in the crack

went to samsung service center.
They said they will replace the Glass panel, Pled screen and benzel.
Oh what the hell, I'll get a new Oled screen. Will go for SGS4 directly
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I guess it is not covered by warranty, is it? How much do they charge you for replacing it?

DaPhinc said:
I guess it is not covered by warranty, is it? How much do they charge you for replacing it?
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Approximate 6000Rs I.e, 120$
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yeah I noticed a crack on my bezel above the volume button. You can kind of see it on the enclosed picture.

I've got a crack in almost exactly the same place as the above pic, slightly closer to the top of the volume button.
Mine has been in an official flip case since day one and has never been dropped. I only noticed the crack when I looked after reading this thread (just like the plastic cover over the home button thread!).
I wouldn't have noticed the crack because of the case. So, is this a design fault? Is it heat or flex that is causing the crack?

The benzel is the most fragile part I think.
I must be because of heat. As the processor, gpu and antenna are near camera module. The top portion gets a lot hotter when accessing 3G.
On top of that if any pressure you put on it going to worsen it. Putting it in a tight jeans and then when u try to remove it out of pocket, u tend to grab the benzel a lot.
All in all, I would go for a metal/polycorbonate benzel in my next phone. That disqualifies SGS3.
Obviously I dont want to pay a hell lot of amount just to get a thin plastic strip (benzel) to be replaced.
Just because samsung did stupid move to glue them together and chose a cheap plastic for benzel I now have to pay a lot.
Waiting for HTC One XL(unibody) with S4 chipset. At least it would come for 3 yrs rather than breaking within 11 Months.
End of rant. Sh**ty cheap plastic Samsung.
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same issue for me
i discovered that few weeks after buying the device
i kept the device with that crack but i worried about it
"happy" to see that i'm not the only one

Incredible! Saw this thread and wondered what the hell a 'benzel' was. After reading that it had happened to more people, I just checked my phone and it has the same crack.
Had never noticed this until now. Fortunately mine is a black phone, so not as noticeable as the white.

check my post open in may
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13714534#post13714534

Wow i had one also at the power button side, i thought it os scratch first but not. Interesting how could this be happen
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sachinaik said:
Just because samsung did stupid move to glue them together and chose a cheap plastic for benzel I now have to pay a lot.
Waiting for HTC One XL(unibody) with S4 chipset. At least it would come for 3 yrs rather than breaking within 11 Months.
End of rant. Sh**ty cheap plastic Samsung.
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the phone isnt exactly broke though is it?? a part of the phone could have been designed better maybe but it isnt broke and doesnt stop he phone from working its also very hardly noticeable
ive had one sgs2 for around a year now and used it hard and it works great
oh and watch these videos and then try and say the sgs2 wont last 3 years if looked after properly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXOezJKpOsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFKmvJ0zIiY
also the bezel scratches easy is there any point in replacing it when you could pay to have it fixed then drop the phone or scratch it against something??
wear marks are never good to see but they do happend

Scratch help

Just got this phone a couple days ago. Sold but s4. This phone is so much better seriously. However I noticed there's a couple very small scratches right on that shiny bezel next to where you plug it in to change. Is that shiny part aluminum? I'd like to find a way to remove the scratch. Its very small and I'm unable to feel it with my fingernail. I'm just really ocd.
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Chadly said:
Just got this phone a couple days ago. Sold but s4. This phone is so much better seriously. However I noticed there's a couple very small scratches right on that shiny bezel next to where you plug it in to change. Is that shiny part aluminum? I'd like to find a way to remove the scratch. Its very small and I'm unable to feel it with my fingernail. I'm just really ocd.
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That's some sort of plastic, so scratches aren't going to come out easily.

GrayTheWolf said:
That's some sort of plastic, so scratches aren't going to come out easily.
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Nope, not the white part. It's the aluminum part. It's where the aluminum attaches to the white plastic part. On the very edge of the bezel there's a couple small scratches. I can feel one with my fingernail.
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Chadly said:
Nope, not the white part. It's the aluminum part. It's where the aluminum attaches to the white plastic part. On the very edge of the bezel there's a couple small scratches. I can feel one with my fingernail.
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You have 14 days, return the phone. They will usually replace it as DOA. You'll be fine.. a few stores were willing to replace mine for gaps in the chassis.

UgXvibe said:
You have 14 days, return the phone. They will usually replace it as DOA. You'll be fine.. a few stores were willing to replace mine for gaps in the chassis.
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I was considering it but the scratches are so damn small. I do have a small hairline gap at the top near the power button but from what I've read most do... And mines extremely small. Idk what to do.
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Chadly said:
I was considering it but the scratches are so damn small. I do have a small hairline gap at the top near the power button but from what I've read most do... And mines extremely small. Idk what to do.
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Ha.. let me tell you about that gap.. I still have my original phone. I've been to 3 corporate stores and looked at literally 17 new phones and they all had it.. mine was actually smaller than what I saw out there.. the only gapless phone I saw was 1 demo model at one of the corporate stores.
They usually wont fight you for a return on something even as minor as a scratch you can feel. Just make sure you go to a corporate store, not a satellite private owned store.

UgXvibe said:
Ha.. let me tell you about that gap.. I still have my original phone. I've been to 3 corporate stores and looked at literally 17 new phones and they all had it.. mine was actually smaller than what I saw out there.. the only gapless phone I saw was 1 demo model at one of the corporate stores.
They usually wont fight you for a return on something even as minor as a scratch you can feel. Just make sure you go to a corporate store, not a satellite private owned store.
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Check it out. These scratches were therr when I bought the phone. Would you return it? I will just tell them the phone keeps restarting itself...
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Chadly said:
Check it out. These scratches were therr when I bought the phone. Would you return it? I will just tell them the phone keeps restarting itself...
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You don't have to even lie, just tell them you've been waiting for this phone on Verizon for 3 months now and since it's finally here you want a perfect phone. At least that's what I said 3 times at 3 diff stores and all 3 managers approved replacement. And yes, I would have it replaced for that, hopefully they wont blame you though. The gap thing is a more obvious factory defect (if not normal at this point).
Let them be the ones to lie about the DOA if the manager agrees to replace the phone for ya.

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You don't have to even lie, just tell them you've been waiting for this phone on Verizon for 3 months now and since it's finally here you want a perfect phone. At least that's what I said 3 times at 3 diff stores and all 3 managers approved replacement. And yes, I would have it replaced for that, hopefully they wont blame you though. The gap thing is a more obvious factory defect (if not normal at this point).
Let them be the ones to lie about the DOA if the manager agrees to replace the phone for ya.
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I'm going to lie anyway just to make sure they don't deny replacing it. I'm not saying anything about the scratches and they won't notice them. How did you get the phone replaced so many times at different stores? They told me I can only replace it one time and that they'd charge me like $30. I always tell them that I want to check the phone for physical defects before I buy it and they always look at me strange and make me feel like an idiot or something.
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I mean I'm going to go in there tomorrow and tell them this thing has restarted itself 4x right when I was in the middle of doing stuff and that I did a factory reset and the same thing is happening. Then when they say ok they will replace it since it's only been like 3 days I'm going to say that the build quality on this phone is perfect(obvious lie) and I want to make sure that the replacement one you're giving me doesn't have any of the known defective gaps or scratches. What do I do if they hand me the replacement one and I notice a scratch or gap? Just say Um no I don't want this one and they bring another out until I'm satisfied?
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and we wonder why we spend so much on cellphone plans...
Really, those scratches are not noticeable for most people. Lets remember these things are made on an assembly line as fast as possible and there is never going to be "the perfect" anything.
The gap I can kind of understand because it could cause water damage if water gets splashed right there, but a very small cosmetic flaw, that's not on the screen, is something I wouldn't even notice.

nrfitchett4 said:
and we wonder why we spend so much on cellphone plans...
Really, those scratches are not noticeable for most people. Lets remember these things are made on an assembly line as fast as possible and there is never going to be "the perfect" anything.
The gap I can kind of understand because it could cause water damage if water gets splashed right there, but a very small cosmetic flaw, that's not on the screen, is something I wouldn't even notice.
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Keyword is OCD..

Something else is happening that's weird. A few times a day I'll get the standalone gps message pop-up... I'll just be on the phone watching a movie or something and it will pop up like I tried to turn the gps on or something when I haven't.
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NSA keeping tabs.. lol

Wish someone could just to me how to polish those tiny scratches out.. I mean it's aluminum.. Really don't feel like returning the phone but whatever.
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So I went into the Verizon store and no joke I had him pull out 5 different ones and only one of them had absolutely 0 gap however it had a small chip in the aluminum. Every single one had small scratches in the same area as mine. Mine actually looked better than most of them. The average person wouldn't notice any of this but I do. For now I'm just keeping mine.. I put a case on it anyway.
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GrayTheWolf said:
That's some sort of plastic, so scratches aren't going to come out easily.
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That's painted metal, not plastic. None of the body is plastic. Taken from CNET review: "HTC also makes a big deal about the One's all-aluminum chassis, describing it as using a zero-gap unibody design. Indeed, available in black and silver, the handset feels sturdy, with reassuring heft, and its smooth, metallic skin exudes high-end craftsmanship. HTC also took pains to point out that while the thin, white trim encircling the silver model I manhandled appears to be plastic, it is, in fact, metal."
You can also tell this by looking very closely at the edge of the white part and you'll see there's not a seam.

Jye75 said:
That's painted metal, not plastic. None of the body is plastic. Taken from CNET review: "HTC also makes a big deal about the One's all-aluminum chassis, describing it as using a zero-gap unibody design. Indeed, available in black and silver, the handset feels sturdy, with reassuring heft, and its smooth, metallic skin exudes high-end craftsmanship. HTC also took pains to point out that while the thin, white trim encircling the silver model I manhandled appears to be plastic, it is, in fact, metal."
You can also tell this by looking very closely at the edge of the white part and you'll see there's not a seam.
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But there is a seam. And it is plastic. Watch a teardown video and you'll be able to see.
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Lykarsis said:
But there is a seam. And it is plastic. Watch a teardown video and you'll be able to see.
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Watch this video.
HTC One rear body CNC milled
You were saying?

Jye75 said:
Watch this video.
HTC One rear body CNC milled
You were saying?
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That video only showed the back of the phone being milled. There was only 1 shot of the sides on it, and it totally looks like plastic.
Also, directly from the iFixit teardown:
Our diligent spudgering appears to have permanently mangled the plastic bezel surrounding the aluminum case.
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