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Just an idea
I have a Gen9 (root+sde) and i would like to have on the same tablet
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Have you the possibility to create a multi-boot ?
cajl said:
Just an idea
I have a Gen9 (root+sde) and i would like to have on the same tablet
Archos rooted
Ubuntu
ICS by letama
Another...
Have you the possibility to create a multi-boot ?
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Physically is possible .....remains to be implemented only ! If I had more free time and would not work ...I think I tried something....
Thanks @cajl ...is an ingenious idea !
Possible ? Well, yes and no.
OpenAOS guys wrote a nice boot menu that should work as is on gen9. However, the main problem is that the different OSes are sharing the same kernel.
My ICS kernel differs a bit from original one (touchscreen driver), but it could work with Honeycomb.
Plasma has its own kernel though.
Archos ICS kernel will be different, it's a 3.0 kernel.
Sorry Letama, BIG mistake. (I am sometimes a little bit out of memory with my brain) This was really a big, big mistake from me with my other thread to this.
But im interested, if someone has experiences with this boot menu from openaos which isnt declared es compatible with gen9.
What does it really does, is it able to boot different kernels and initramfs and images and of course - what are the caveeats?
The developers say it is really buggy, even for gen7 and 8, too, and so im "slow" before installing that. Dont even know how to install that and what to do if there is new official fw from archos then.
On the other side, buggy are nearly all bootloaders for pc, too, and there i dont mind so much.
Does someone know what buggy means in this context?
No problem...
Well, no, it doesn't allow multiple kernel/initramfs. What it does is let you choose between multiple rootfs images, that's all. This is ok if the multiple OS can work on the same kernel, but as I said most of the time they can't.
I don't know if it's buggy or not, I never tried it. To use it, you'd have to package a proper initramfs for gen9.
letama said:
Possible ? Well, yes and no.
OpenAOS guys wrote a nice boot menu that should work as is on gen9. However, the main problem is that the different OSes are sharing the same kernel.
My ICS kernel differs a bit from original one (touchscreen driver), but it could work with Honeycomb.
Plasma has its own kernel though.
Archos ICS kernel will be different, it's a 3.0 kernel.
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What I'm thinking is what kernel does it use? because if it's the G8 kernel it won't do... in that case, how can I remove the G8 kernel in the boot menu and substitute it with a G9 Kernel?... thank you in advance
TjaXanK said:
What I'm thinking is what kernel does it use? because if it's the G8 kernel it won't do... in that case, how can I remove the G8 kernel in the boot menu and substitute it with a G9 Kernel?... thank you in advance
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Well, when I meant as-is, I was talking about the menu command, not the zImage+initrd which are g8 only. You have to unpack g8 initrd, take command/scripts and port them back to g9 initrd. If you never played with initrds, it's a bit difficult to do.
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Well, when I meant as-is, I was talking about the menu command, not the zImage+initrd which are g8 only. You have to unpack g8 initrd, take command/scripts and port them back to g9 initrd. If you never played with initrds, it's a bit difficult to do.
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ok, well thanks for the info... di do some work on my old Gen8, so I might be able to do something with the boot menu... will let you guys know... if it works I'll post back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ07Ivmu9OM
What does this video mean? Knows so this guy? (my french is even after learning 6 years so worse ...)
he use this
http://dev.openaos.org/wiki/FBMenu
Yes, and the purpose of his work is to be able to have multiple data partition scheme. It's useful for instance if you want to have a stable environment with your trusted apps and a test one where you install stuff and check if they work properly.
It's not a multiple firmware boot. fbmenu can be used to do a multiple boot at the condition that the kernel remains identical though.
Hi, guys,I want to port a Pac-man rom to our glides, but, my internet is only 512, my pc is very good for the work, but my internet no. 1 Night and only 800 mb. (and i think that there was a error and cut the connection)
My question is. Can I download all the repo (Pac-man gith andour device tree) in another pc using windows, and use that file in my linux OS? I can go to download in another place, but only with windows. If the answer is Yes, where can I learn how to do that?
lorddavid said:
Hi, guys,I want to port a Pac-man rom to our glides, but, my internet is only 512, my pc is very good for the work, but my internet no. 1 Night and only 800 mb. (and i think that there was a error and cut the connection)
My question is. Can I download all the repo (Pac-man gith andour device tree) in another pc using windows, and use that file in my linux OS? I can go to download in another place, but only with windows. If the answer is Yes, where can I learn how to do that?
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I don't see why not, unless your repo is OS specific...
I would set up a virtual linux machine and use that to do everything, as it will cause less hiccups. Easier to build on there, or so I'm told...
EDIT: Do you want to work together? I'm trying to port as well. Just a basic port, using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
PM me
gtmaster303 said:
I don't see why not, unless your repo is OS specific...
I would set up a virtual linux machine and use that to do everything, as it will cause less hiccups. Easier to build on there, or so I'm told...
EDIT: Do you want to work together? I'm trying to port as well. Just a basic port, using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
PM me
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Wow, your guide seems very easy, and there is an app to do it too.
I will try to see if i can install linux in one of these machines to download all.
I dont know any about porting, or fixing things in android, I want to learn and I am using Dman's Tutorial, so, not sure if I can help doing a real rom
lorddavid said:
Wow, your guide seems very easy, and there is an app to do it too.
I will try to see if i can install linux in one of these machines to download all.
I dont know any about porting, or fixing things in android, I want to learn and I am using Dman's Tutorial, so, not sure if I can help doing a real rom
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i want to do a pacrom as well.. ive been really busy the last 2 weeks though so havent had a chance to fix my ubuntu install... my build environment is almost done, just gave me errors.. well need to setup a repo on github... for now though its not a bad idea to be patient and allow everyone to focus on fixing the cm that spyke is working on.. thats one thing i wonder about the greatergood .. if he focused on one fully working vs many broken if we'd have a bluetooth fix...
Yes, but in that time, I will learn, I see minor errors when sync the repo, but continue (sometimes the conection broke it but can restart) I first want to learn
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ya cool I'm with you ... When I have some free time next I will fix my devel. Let's work on this together im sure we can help eachother out quite a bit and put together an updated how-to compile from source for 4.2.2.
I don't see any reason why you can't download all of the items you need under windows. The only thing you'd need to be concerned when copying it back is file permissions ... shouldn't be an issue, though.
Question, though, what makes you believe it would be faster downloading in windows vs linux ? is your windows computer a laptop that you'll be taking somewhere else to download? ...
Yes, I will go to another place to download all. If I dont do that, I never going to finish
Hey, since the official BBM for android is out, and not compatible for our devices, is there any other way round to get it working? Installing an independent APK did not work for me.
Deoy said:
Hey, since the official BBM for android is out, and not compatible for our devices, is there any other way round to get it working? Installing an independent APK did not work for me.
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I'm looking for the same thing but I can not find anything ...
Yes, Our device falls under Desire C category on the Play Store's Dev Console (Mostly). Even the Desire C doesn't support BBM. Anyways, I'm gonna get a new phone in a month but having BBM for the WFS would be great
Deoy said:
Hey, since the official BBM for android is out, and not compatible for our devices, is there any other way round to get it working? Installing an independent APK did not work for me.
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Keep patient.. Wait developer modified bbm.apk for armv6
Am also looking for bbm!!!
I managed to update my WFS to android 4.2.2, but I am unable to download it from playstore, if any body knows how to install it on our devices can you please share with us??????????
raul7205 said:
I managed to update my WFS to android 4.2.2, but I am unable to download it from playstore, if any body knows how to install it on our devices can you please share with us??????????
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Ofcourse, cause you just midified the Operating System 4.2.2 but not architecture of your CPU (armv6)
BBM min requarment is armv7 achitecture of CPU
Ohhh NO , Not yet
We have to wait more than 6 months :crying::crying:
Just bringing this thread back to life, I got a working BBM APK on CM10.1, not sure about other roms.
Not really sure, But one of these links works, can anybody try? I Don't have access to wfs for a week now
First Link
Second one
I also have one!!!
Hey everyone,
don't know if the copy I have is one that's already here, but this one has been personally tested on cm10, cm9, cm7 and the original sense rom! it all works perfectly
Attached below
yes i am ask for someone to port cm 10.2 for for galaxy tab 3 7.0 smt210r i would like to try it out if somebody can port it thanks let me know if u can
Jaykingis20 said:
yes i am ask for someone to port cm 10.2 for for galaxy tab 3 7.0 smt210r i would like to try it out if somebody can port it thanks let me know if u can
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i think cm10.1 is the one to do unless i'm getting my versions mixed up,
cm10.2 is android 4.3 and that had problems.
cm10.1 is android 4.2 and should be an easy match i think.
wanting the latest version of whatever is not always best.
and i mean this in the best way, xda is not a shopping mall it's a developers site.
requests are a reasonable thing to expect. progressively flooding the forums with useless
threads/posts is not reasonable. rather than ask for someone else to do for you, take the time
to learn so you can do for yourself. i started in may and since then i have learned a lot.
all i ask is that you consider that.
m
alright
moonbutt74 said:
i think cm10.1 is the one to do unless i'm getting my versions mixed up,
cm10.2 is android 4.3 and that had problems.
cm10.1 is android 4.2 and should be an easy match i think.
wanting the latest version of whatever is not always best.
and i mean this in the best way, xda is not a shopping mall it's a developers site.
requests are a reasonable thing to expect. progressively flooding the forums with useless
threads/posts is not reasonable. rather than ask for someone else to do for you, take the time
to learn so you can do for yourself. i started in may and since then i have learned a lot.
all i ask is that you consider that.
m
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where do i start and how to do this it would be fun for me to learn to do this kind of stuff also where do i download to like port roms make roms ect so where do i start i want to learn how to make my first rom
Jaykingis20 said:
where do i start and how to do this it would be fun for me to learn to do this kind of stuff also where do i download to like port roms make roms ect so where do i start i want to learn how to make my first rom
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you start by using the xda search bar.
search terms such as how to compile a kernel, how to build a rom, etc.
and read, read, read.
you will also need a linux 64bit pc for rom building.
you can use a linux 32bit pc for kernel building which is where i started.
as a sort of quick link to find the threads in which i began my learning process
click on my username and select view posts option, it will show you every post i've made.
pay particular attention to the discussions between myself and Restl3ss as he completely guided me
through the process to getting my cm11 build environment set up. there is a huge deal of excellent noob-friendly
info in there.
good luck :good:
m
moonbutt74 said:
you start by using the xda search bar.
search terms such as how to compile a kernel, how to build a rom, etc.
and read, read, read.
you will also need a linux 64bit pc for rom building.
you can use a linux 32bit pc for kernel building which is where i started.
as a sort of quick link to find the threads in which i began my learning process
click on my username and select view posts option, it will show you every post i've made.
pay particular attention to the discussions between myself and Restl3ss as he completely guided me
through the process to getting my cm11 build environment set up. there is a huge deal of excellent noob-friendly
info in there.
good luck :good:
m
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alright i have windows but not linux i need to download linux for my windows vista so i can get started
on Linux
Jaykingis20 said:
alright i have windows but not linux i need to download linux for my windows vista so i can get started
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you will need to search the internet for instruction on installing Linux.
again, read read read.
As a recommendation search for Debian Linux or Linux Mint.
That is outside the scope of this discussion however. When you have completed that then return
to XDA to continue your quest.
m
So ... I'd like to dual boot a normal linux on that tab.
My first problem is something like a boot loader that let me select wether to boot android or any other system (with touch capability and timeout ideally).
Some googling around didn't bring anything useful besides "it's highly dependent on the device".
Is there something like that out there? The alternative I thought of is to build something like the Ubuntu Phone boot app, but I have no idea how it works.
The next problem would be hardware support, but I will look at that issue later.
The chroot solution would be a fallback (I have to look deeper into, especially in terms of performance), but I'd prefer to have a real system.
hofmann.christian said:
So ... I'd like to dual boot a normal linux on that tab.
My first problem is something like a boot loader that let me select wether to boot android or any other system (with touch capability and timeout ideally).
Some googling around didn't bring anything useful besides "it's highly dependent on the device".
Is there something like that out there? The alternative I thought of is to build something like the Ubuntu Phone boot app, but I have no idea how it works.
The next problem would be hardware support, but I will look at that issue later.
The chroot solution would be a fallback (I have to look deeper into, especially in terms of performance), but I'd prefer to have a real system.
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Just to clarify which exact tab s fo you have, you say also you will look into the issue of hardware support later....this is the wrong order im sorry to say and many people will agree its the first thing u shud look at.....for example it has to be taken into account that your using an arm processor and u cant just use any linux distro on any arm processor e.g arm v5 is different architecture to armv7...meaning a new kernal needed that runs your linux and android...you really are going into waters way above even my head...start with porting cynogenmod completely from scratch...look st compiling your first real rom and you will learn A LOT and MAY begin to comprehend what your asking here....not meaning to sound god almighty but honestly this involves a lot of factors.
Well, I am aiming at arch and afaik there should be ARM versions for any relevant CPUs, so this is not that a big deal. GPU and the likes could be way worse.
Also: 8.4", not sure if there are different versions of these besides the storage capacity
hofmann.christian said:
Well, I am aiming at arch and afaik there should be ARM versions for any relevant CPUs, so this is not that a big deal. GPU and the likes could be way worse.
Also: 8.4", not sure if there are different versions of these besides the storage capacity
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Ok pal all you need to do then is create a kernal that will support both the android 4.4.2 and linux that youve custom built and taylored to your phones specs.
Heres a link to expanded info on linux and arm: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2n21i2/can_arm_chip_linux_servers_run_all_software_or/
Heres a link to building kernals : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html
And heres a link to your specs something you WILL need : http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_8_4_lte-6435.php
Please keep me updated on this as if you put all the effort in needed then it would a nice self achievement...good luck m8.
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Ok pal all you need to do then is create a kernal that will support both the android 4.4.2 and linux that youve custom built and taylored to your phones specs.
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I thought about that, too. But that may be especially hard on arch due to regular updates. It still may be possible and I will have a look at it, but I'd prefer multiple kernels to choose from.
Also: Does having one single kernel in any way help with the boot choice problem?
hofmann.christian said:
I thought about that, too. But that may be especially hard on arch due to regular updates. It still may be possible and I will have a look at it, but I'd prefer multiple kernels to choose from.
Also: Does having one single kernel in any way help with the boot choice problem?
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Well without one single kernal you cant boot anything...why go though making a bootloader to something when youve got nothing to boot yet? The bootloader is the easiest part its the rest thats the harder. Heres an example of bootloaders that shows its more than possible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...droid&pcampaignid=APPU_3DrCVJj1A8vW7AaIu4HQDQ
And the designer is a member of XDA so i say again you first need to build kernal and linux that are compatible with your hardware....then contact this bloke who made MultiBoot and when he sees all the hard work you put in he will be more than happy to help you i should imagine.
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pdolton2000 said:
Well without one single kernal you cant boot anything...why go though making a bootloader to something when youve got nothing to boot yet? The bootloader is the easiest part its the rest thats the harder. Heres an example of bootloaders that shows its more than possible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...droid&pcampaignid=APPU_3DrCVJj1A8vW7AaIu4HQDQ
And the designer is a member of XDA so i say again you first need to build kernal and linux that are compatible with your hardware....then contact this bloke who made MultiBoot and when he sees all the hard work you put in he will be more than happy to help you i should imagine.
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EDIT
If you wanted a quick way out of all that i can only suggest emulating linux on android...find an example here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...droid&pcampaignid=APPU_FT3CVObxNIOa7gbxwYDACg
Good luck anyway pal hope it goes to plan
It looks exactly like what I need. The screenshots are suggesting that regular linux distributions are running as well.
If this would be compatible with this device I'd stuff ALARM with an sshd on it and work my way from there.
hofmann.christian said:
It looks exactly like what I need. The screenshots are suggesting that regular linux distributions are running as well.
If this would be compatible with this device I'd stuff ALARM with an sshd on it and work my way from there.
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Haaa whats the chances, i only thought of that last minute, hope it works out man
pdolton2000 said:
Haaa whats the chances, i only thought of that last minute, hope it works out man
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Well, so I am back at the "I need a boot manager" square just with the information that there is something like this which just doesn't work for now.
hofmann.christian said:
Well, so I am back at the "I need a boot manager" square just with the information that there is something like this which just doesn't work for now.
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Sorry pal you want a boot manager to run this emulated version of linux? This works by emulating it inside android os? Or have i misunderstood?
pdolton2000 said:
Sorry pal you want a boot manager to run this emulated version of linux? This works by emulating it inside android os? Or have i misunderstood?
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Who said something about an emulated Version? I want a real full fledged Linux to dual boot on a tablet.
hofmann.christian said:
It looks exactly like what I need. The screenshots are suggesting that regular linux distributions are running as well.
If this would be compatible with this device I'd stuff ALARM with an sshd on it and work my way from there.
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Misunderstanding thought you were refuring to the edit i made just above this post im quoting in its original place.
Ok so you now no the idea of bootloaders exist and for them to work you need linux and a kernal ie an os otherwise theres nothing for it to boot, you need to compile a compatible kernal and lixux distro together thats going to work with your spec so then someone else can help you with the bootloader that will dual bot both it and android...otherwise your asking somebody to draw a design of a building and predict the levels of the foundations before the land itself exists which cannot be done.
Ive provided you research material in kernal design, the specs of your phone, about how linux and arm work together, ive provided you with a link to a bootloader exactly like what your after made by a member on xda whom u can see links to in the download of it to show that you have a place and a person to ask who specializes in the field once youve created what you want to dual boot with android.
Theres nothing more that can be done pal its all been made very clear.