Be Warned: Nandroid backup can cause bootloop - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Just a friendly reminder that Nandroid alone are not sufficient for data protection. Your /sdcard partition is not a safe place.
Last night an update came out for the ROM I'm on so I decided like we all should to do a Nandroid backup before flashing.
Well..
Backup errors out on /data and after that (with no other changes, just the attempted backup) My phone is bootlooping at the Google logo.
I cleared cache and dalvik...no change. Did a factory reset within recovery and reflashed the version of the ROM i was already on, no changes.
Tried to restore an older nandroid backup...restore fails on /data.
Used fasboot and reflashed, bootloader, radio...nope still bootloop.
Final Fix:
Open up stock 4.0.1 firmware package and fastboot flash boot,system,userdata which then booted up fine on stock 4.0.1 android. I then proceeded to flash the ROM, etc and all is fine. However flashing those images did wipe my /sdcard partition so I lost everything on there.

Thanks for the heads up
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Not to be an ass, and I really do feel for you, but you know what you signed up for when you unlocked. There is always that chance and to avoid it all stay unrooted.
But, again, thanks for the heads up and I hope there wasn't too much on your SD.

Same happens to me, in my older phone it was stuck in the boot up screen spent weeks trying to fix it nun worked, so I had to save up money to buy a new one
But on a lighter note I restored back to custom rom now SIM card don't work but o well, that's y I like to do it to figure out the problems
I know how u feel wen I lost my form of communication lol
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Ouch! Good thing it's not a common reoccurring problem.

sucks, but you could unmount sdcard from recovery and transfer all of your stuff to your pc, and then fastboot flash 4.0.1

@OP did you happen to reneme the back-ups at all with spaces?
good day.

To address a few people.
-I have nothing on my phone that is important so as far as 'you know the risks' yes I do and I never said I cared that this happened in any big way but it was a little scary that it wouldn't even restore a nandroid. It happened late last night and after fiddling with it for 10 minutes I just turned it off and then hooked it up to my computer @work this morning and within 45 minutes had everything working again and setup exactly like I did before.
-No I did not rename my backups lol.
[email protected] I didn't know that thanks for the tip, all I really had on /sdcard was some wallpapers and a few ROM downloads. I keep my phone pretty lean since I'm abit of a flashing whore.
-This thread is more of a heads up for people, as you could search I never posted any kind of thread asking for help, the fix was pretty simple, really just a matter of going down the list of least 'destructive' fixes and trying those out before trying out those that involved wiping the entire phone. Its not like it was bricked I had recovery and boot-loader access. It's just strange that it happened I mean doing a backup is not making writes to the system its simple a read operation and then writes to the /sdcard partition.
FWIW I was using CWM Touch Beta5 from Nathan Grebowiec.

sluflyer06 said:
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Final Fix:
Open up stock 4.0.1 firmware package and fastboot flash boot,system,userdata which then booted up fine on stock 4.0.1 android. I then proceeded to flash the ROM, etc and all is fine. However flashing those images did wipe my /sdcard partition so I lost everything on there.
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Just a little note: the /sdcard "partition" is actually just a symlink to /data/media. So, if you flash the userdata partition, you are effectively wiping you sdcard.
If you booted CWM, then used ADB to pull all the data from /data/media, you would still have everything on you /sdcard.

nonione said:
sucks, but you could unmount sdcard from recovery and transfer all of your stuff to your pc, and then fastboot flash 4.0.1
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unmount sdcard eh?
Is the rest of the data partition unavailable when the sdcard folder is mounted?

i've used nandroid backup over 200 times between my 4 android devices. i have NEVER ever had an issue like this.
and just the last week i've done 15 backups and recoveries on my gnex. no issues.

Hi, happend to me exactly same thing... twice. And trying to flash other Rom was causing strange behavior, there was no lock screen phone go straight to home screen after pressing power button. Flashing stock image fix the problem, I can only add that if you backup your nandroids buckup(s) and then put it back to your phone (after stock flash) they will work fine. Sorry for my terrible english.

Be Warned: User error can cause boot loops.
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Nandroid has become considerably less reliable since Koush switched to tar.

Ugh, just had this same thing happen to me when trying to flash a rom. If I had known this before I wouldn't flash anything anymore and count on nandroids. lol Oh well, you live and learn. So I've never flashed a stock img through fastboot or anything so I'm going to try that when I get home. I tried to mount my sd card here at work with no drivers and got this error when trying to mount usb 'unable to open ums lunfile no such directory blah blah' I'm assuming it's just because I'm on a computer with no drivers.
Anyway, so if I can get my phone to usb mount to my laptop through cwm I can back up my sd card on the laptop before I flash the stock images that will wipe my sd? I do have some pictures and things on there I would like to keep if possible. Thanks. Wish I read this earlier, 30 minutes too late lol
Anyone know what causes this?

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[Q] 4.2 Upgrade Problems-- verizon gnex

My vzw nexus has been running mRom version x.x for sometime. I went to install the upgraded 4.2 rom via clockworkmod, (wipe cache and dalvik, flash over current rom) and it appeared to install successfully. However, when I rebooted I saw the lock screen for a split second and it just started to boot loop. I rebooted back into recovery and wiped all data and tried to reinstall the rom via through the new 0 partition, but I get the error symlink: some symlinks failed
E: Error in /sdcard/0/mRom_v3.0_JOP40C.zip (status 7)
I think that this may have something to do with the multiple users in 4.2, but don't quote me on it. I cannot get my computer to recognize my phone, when I go to mounts in cwm I can mount everything except the sdcard, although I think this problem was evident before I flashed. Any suggestions? I could try to restore to stock using galaxynexusrestore-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743939 but I have not tried it before so I cannot speak to weither it will work or not.
HELP!
Always always wipe data when changing an Android version. Unless it comes via OTA, which is specifically designed to fix all the little problems that will arise.
As to how to fix the problem, flashing a factory image
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 will probably work. Just follow the rules for Toro. The toolkit you linked may work, but it's generally a better idea to not use them and actually familiarize yourself with how to fix things yourself, you'll be less likely to make mistakes in the future.
Same thing happened to me.
when i try to restore from backup Clockwork can't locate the backup file because the root file structure has changed to \0.
Is there an update to Recovery that fixes this?
Help!
Misread OP.
ironerd said:
Same thing happened to me.
when i try to restore from backup Clockwork can't locate the backup file because the root file structure has changed to \0.
Is there an update to Recovery that fixes this?
Help!
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Clockwork dev said he knows about the issue and is working on a fix.
TWRP already has a patch out that solves the problem. If you decide to temporary move to TWRP it can be flashed through fastboot or Goomanager. CWM and TWRP backups are not compatible however.
http://teamw.in/androidmultiuser useful reading for how TWRP fixed it.
same problem, stuck at JB logo
Marisa said:
Clockwork dev said he knows about the issue and is working on a fix.
TWRP already has a patch out that solves the problem. If you decide to temporary move to TWRP it can be flashed through fastboot or Goomanager. CWM and TWRP backups are not compatible however.
http://teamw.in/androidmultiuser useful reading for how TWRP fixed it.
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I was running stock JRO03O with Clockwork Recovery Mod and decided to flash the JB 4.2 ROM from Grouper (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993545 - I can't post there since I'm too new).
The update must have succeeded, because I can see the new 0/ partition on my phone, but it won't boot past the "X" logo. I can boot into CWM and try various things, but of course because of the data structure changes, I can't actually recover to my last save. When I'm home, I'm hoping I can get the CWM backup off my phone to restore later, but without a terminal in CWM, I can't try to fix the path.
It's nice to hear that CW is working on a fix - I hope it's retroactive (I mean, helpful to those of use who already screwed up). Also, I've never flashed anything but OTA, so I didn't realize I needed to wipe data before flashing something that's supposed to be almost stock. I guess it matters how different from stock the ROM actually is.
What's next? I'll try to interface with my PC at home. If others have this problem, I'd be happy to hear your success (or fail) stories. I'll share mine once I've tried it.
The issue with non-OTA version updates is that the OTA is specifically designed to know what little bits and pieces need to be updated, removed, or left alone.
Flashing a ROM is usually intended as a fresh slate, as the dev cannot know exactly from where you started. Basically without the wipe, you could end up with old files loitering about the system and making it do things incorrectly at boot.
Koush
When trying to restore CWM backup move previous backups AND blobs folder to /data/media/clockworkmod if the folder does not exist simply create one or if unsure just go to recovery and make new backup, it will create necessary folders for you then move (or copy to be safe) files to location.... The blobs folder is what I was missing and why I kept getting error while trying to restore.
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This should help your problem solving for the moment, if you're familiar enough with ADB to move the files that way it shouldn't take very long at all
thanks, and update of my status
Marisa said:
The issue with non-OTA version updates is that the OTA is specifically designed to know what little bits and pieces need to be updated, removed, or left alone.
Flashing a ROM is usually intended as a fresh slate, as the dev cannot know exactly from where you started. Basically without the wipe, you could end up with old files loitering about the system and making it do things incorrectly at boot.
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Thanks for the extra insight. I wrestled with my phone all night and finally got it back to 4.1.1 (JRO030). Along the way I screwed up my adb or fastboot drivers, and for all my efforts I couldn't get any of my nexus toolkits to recognize the phone as in fastboot mode. Adb was fine, but fastboot was a no-go. I moved to a fresh computer after someone else had success with that, and read up on how to do a manual (adb command line) flash to factory image.
Now that that's done, I'm hoping I can restore from CWM to get back to where I was. If not, then yuck, but I'm optimistic.

Every time I reboot Apps/Data go missing [HELP]

Alright I going keep this simple. I checked all over the forum and can't find a sollution. My devs told me to come here and told me no one else has this issue.
Following is my specs. s3, running twrp 2.3.3.1 have sense it came out. I have a 32 gig SD card patriot. I am running super su (note that)
I use TB backup normal. I run inverted Gapps, normaly.
My attempts to fix.
Did a clean install, format system, factory data reset, cache, dalvik in TWRP. I installed rootbox, I installed normal Gapps 20121212, then
Get to home screen I dont reinstall anything except
TB backup, Root Tool box, and updated super su (which might be installed wrong)
anyways I reboot to back up when there done and poof Roottoolbox is no longer there, though icon is still there. Missing app.... icon still there WTF
TB lost its cousin TB pro (key) but TB is there.... wtf
Oh and super su lost its update as did gapps updates
All missing
Also I can reinstall apps restart again and BAM apps missing again same ones same updates.
Is this something I could of done in android comander? I use droid manager and droid explore too..
Never had a issue back on 4.1 jellybam I flased a few roms 4.2 roms..
baked bean, aokp , cm10 tried them now im on rootbox
I did flash the broken jellybam 5.1 a bunch times trying get to work (shrug) dunno if that matters and I flashed from 4.1 to 4.2 a lot of times
I assume some folder got moved its like my system picks apps to move to certain places
OR maybe I installed backed up apps with android comander somewhere i shouldn't so now I can't install them again (though flashing clean install should fixed everything)
Give me some ideas please thank you
I never had a issue that clean install didn't fix so Im worried. I still have old backup on my computer of before the problem started but there 4.1 roms and I don't wana compound my issues so I wait untill I get reply to try anything crazy
I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
xxsicknessxx said:
I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
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my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
Danvdh said:
my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
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Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
xxsicknessxx said:
Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
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Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
-I have to flash modem?
-Do I need a kernal?
-I cant use any of my backups after I do this right?
Last but not least I have my stock backup before I started flashing that isn't going to help right? Whats ever messed up im going need to do this all the way right?
Anyways I figure it can't hurt but I gotta make sure I get perfect directions I can follow but if I have guess on anything im doomed. I downloading the stock file now (I think right one its ATT) doesn't say d2att but I assume ATT means that all 3 recoverys are for d2att
anyways you helped me a bunch using search I know I can figure the rest out im going download everything get sleep and attemt in morning I come back let ya know if I get back to running.
Funny this problem effecs so few apps just a couple I must done something wrong. I don't get how anything can live past system wipe in TWRP... I mean it deletes system files right? They get replaced by my new roms files I thought but instead they seem like they get left over every time i wipe... I dunno why. If this don't work im using my warrenty
how come i cant just wipe data then install a fresh rom off my sd card? or could my recovery be messed up also.... (dam) i guess this makes sense oh well lol
xxsicknessxx said:
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Thanks a bunch man.
Every once in awhile someone really is helpfull on this forum and its cool when it happens. *Tips his hat* thanks
I already formated my sd card (will do it again if nessisery)
Just did it few seconds ago figured might help. umm only other question now is.. do I need flash kernal or is that included... and also the s3 toolkit (I have it already) and have used it I only sounds like a noob I just confused at this issue. Umm it doesn't have my specific model will that be a issue? I know it has i747 but not samsung galaxy i747 att
or does not matter only the i747 part needs be right only asking so i don't F up
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i747 is at&t
i747m is Canada
T999 is tmobile
that should help you out, also, the odin flash covers every partition. kernel, rom, modem etc. you will need to flash a custom kernel after your rooted and have a custom recovery. I would do a little bit more research, flash the rom in my sig (my own rom) when your up and running and use it as a daily driver untill you figure things out a little bit more with some good ol reading :highfive:
that was a long download. I know what im kinda doing. I done same thing on my S2 reverted it to sell. The only difference is my S3 is a girl about things. my s2 could take anything.
Anyways I had a long night.. i dunno what problem IS but I think has to do with me having android comander and backing up my APKs to my computer and my phone. and reinstalling apps with bolth programs.
Its so easy to use Android comander that I dunno maybe I been installing apps in wrong places and it finaly caught up to me
Or maybe phone defective.. *shrug* dunno others had my issues too but no fixes really. Nothing solid.
I give your idea a try but I did just wipe data, wipe system factory data and bla bla nothing helps it still happens. the same dam 3 apps too... over and over jezzzz
Thanks for help Im to tired to continue was just waiting for the reocvery to finish later
Anyone answer this.
If I format everything in Twrp all my
system/system/app folders
system/data/app folders
data/data/ folders
And so forth do they get delete and new one put in there place
do they get over written and merge with the ones from last rom
nothing happens to them?
I need to know. And this Full Recovery via odin the guy above says to do will it really get rid of them? all Not leave stuff behind
I think this is my problem if it isn't then its a faulty phone but problems just started so i think its something i did on acciednt
Even though I installed newest TWRP sometimes its like Settings get left over even after a full wipe. Including data (did last night)
Did data, system, cache , dalvik, factory reset, I even formated SD card
Then reindtall rom downloded rom manager. restarted and poof gone and left behind short cut on the desktop
So wtf ? and settings won't stick they revert back default like it can't remember **** its been smoking weed i bet... dam phone
any ideas help or will flashing odin fix this because i don't wana mess phone up worse
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
xxsicknessxx said:
I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
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Reguardless of what I did to cause this what I don't get is why wiping everything and installing fresh rom doesn't do the trick?
Is there any other way to clean out all /system folders / data folders / root folders of crap and start brand new? beside above post?
xxsicknessxx said:
I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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everything important is saved on my computer honestly I make lots of backups im a carefull person I been reading about corrupt EFS folders, and bad system directories and stuff....
Seems only way fix it go back to stock and go through your folders.... Once im stock again I hope I do this right (im ready to do it now) just ... feel like this could all go wrong
What do I do once im stock? Just wipe the phone? factory data... its the not having a custom recovery (with stock) that scares me so much... I rooted this phone with a program I didn't do it by hand so Im worrried I might not get it right *sigh*
Once your back on stock n rooted install goomanager and installed TWRP again.
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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Alright so im stock now. with root... Havn't formatted yet (no point) I already did that ... I know how this happned I think..
When I kept going from 4.1 and 4.2 I would get 0 folders so I took it and moved it back by just droping all folders back into the main drive so alll combine. It seemed to work but does sound possible? Would that casue issues with /root folder or is /root got nothing do with internal storage because I can't see it from computer
HEY quick what do I do with 0 folder? delete it all? combine? cry..... hehe I only got 1 but what do I do with it thanks
I wana make sure I fixed now
Danvdh said:
Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
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Thanks again for the information you helped a lot and I think that worked. I think its fixed. I can't be sure but its not happening at least like it was before. I prob won't know for awhile if its going to happen again for sure but Im optimistic. I mean what else can I do after this lol buy a new phone
Thanks dude most people arn't that nice to explain everything to me

Problems Flashing and Restoring custom roms

I have had problems flashing and restoring Roms both stk and aosp. By problems I mean getting stuck at boot screen after flash and backups failing at data and if restored without data stuck at boot. The only remedy I have found is a total internal memory wipe. I have tried many wiping techniques none worked long term. Last night when I had these problems again before I did full internal data wipe I used twrp file manager and looked around and notice after factory reset wipe which is suppose to wipe all data but data/media I still had data/app and when I tried to manually erase it failed. even with system mounted I couldn't delete. Maybe someone else having troubles can also check to see if data/app is still there after wipe. I dont know if its recovery related or caused by the aosp sd format. Maybe a combination? I don't think im the only one having these problems so I wanted to start a thread to try to figuer this out. Any help is greatly appriciated.
Bdadd34 said:
I have had problems flashing and restoring Roms both stk and aosp. By problems I mean getting stuck at boot screen after flash and backups failing at data and if restored without data stuck at boot. The only remedy I have found is a total internal memory wipe. I have tried many wiping techniques none worked long term. Last night when I had these problems again before I did full internal data wipe I used twrp file manager and looked around and notice after factory reset wipe which is suppose to wipe all data but data/media I still had data/app and when I tried to manually erase it failed. even with system mounted I couldn't delete. Maybe someone else having troubles can also check to see if data/app is still there after wipe. I dont know if its recovery related or caused by the aosp sd format. Maybe a combination? I don't think im the only one having these problems so I wanted to start a thread to try to figuer this out. Any help is greatly appriciated.
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yeah just happened to me just now too dammit... tried to restore my lifeless backup to update prl and profile... restore went fine but i get the lg logo flash then blacjk screen....going to try again but damn this is one issue that need resolving.. usually i have no problems which is weird cause im not doing anything different maybe been couple weeks since my last restore to lifeless using same backup that wont work now
spleef said:
yeah just happened to me just now too dammit... tried to restore my lifeless backup to update prl and profile... restore went fine but i get the lg logo flash then blacjk screen....going to try again but damn this is one issue that need resolving.. usually i have no problems which is weird cause im not doing anything different maybe been couple weeks since my last restore to lifeless using same backup that wont work now
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I'm going to try deleting data/app before booting to recovery when I flash from now on to see if it helps. I think something to do with the size of that folder is corrupting data in recovery as it seems to happen only when I run a rom for a few days adding apps. If I flash right away it works fine.
spleef..If you can check data/ folder from twrp before wiping internal data...I wonder if the data/app is from backup or previous rom as I believe it is being corrupted to not be wipable.
spleef said:
yeah just happened to me just now too dammit... tried to restore my lifeless backup to update prl and profile... restore went fine but i get the lg logo flash then blacjk screen....going to try again but damn this is one issue that need resolving.. usually i have no problems which is weird cause im not doing anything different maybe been couple weeks since my last restore to lifeless using same backup that wont work now
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Bdadd34 said:
I'm going to try deleting data/app before booting to recovery when I flash from now on to see if it helps. I think something to do with the size of that folder is corrupting data in recovery as it seems to happen only when I run a rom for a few days adding apps. If I flash right away it works fine.
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I'm seeing this happen to a lot of people and I don't understand why. I've been flashing all the ROMS and restoring from backups for months now with no issues. Maybe I just got a lucky phone.
Maybe this will help many of you.
In TWRP 2.5.0.0
Click Wipe
Swipe to Factory Reset
Back button to the Wipe menu
Advanced Wipe
Tick all 4--
Dalvik
System
Data
cache
Back to main TWRP menu and restore/install
Like I said, I've had no issues doing it this way. May the Force be with you.
engine95 said:
I'm seeing this happen to a lot of people and I don't understand why. I've been flashing all the ROMS and restoring from backups for months now with no issues. Maybe I just got a lucky phone.
Maybe this will help many of you.
In TWRP 2.5.0.0
Click Wipe
Swipe to Factory Reset
Back button to the Wipe menu
Advanced Wipe
Tick all 4--
Dalvik
System
Data
cache
Back to main TWRP menu and restore/install
Like I said, I've had no issues doing it this way. May the Force be with you.
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thanks for the advice but I have wiped every which way including rebooting recovery after wipe before installing..no luck
I think it started from initially wiping internal memory and reloading data from pc backup to get rid of the aosp stuff on the sd card..
My advice to anyone else who wants the sd card back to stock is to leave it alone.
normally i have no problems going back and forth.... want to hear something even weirder.... restored my aokp and it booted into lifeless.... now either i restored lifeless again...which us possible big fingers and always in a hurry... or something very funny going on in my recovery i am on the older version 2.4.4 i think it is haven't updated it yet cause of all the issues people are having and the different wipe area... just seems weird top me but guess its time to do it and at least see if it will help
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OK this is crazy...deleted data/app with ROM manager root browser..then entered recovery wiped everything in advanced wipe..system..both caches and data..then rebooted recovery checked data\ there was nothing but \media and a config XML file..then flashed a STK custom ROM...got stuck at lg boot logo. Got back to recovery went to filemanager and there it was data\app with all the apps had had installed in my aosp ROM. Loaded aosp backup and all is fine....but I deleted data\app with root browser and in recovery and still there.. :banghead:
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Bdadd34 said:
OK this is crazy...deleted data/app with ROM manager root browser..then entered recovery wiped everything in advanced wipe..system..both caches and data..then rebooted recovery checked data\ there was nothing but \media and a config XML file..then flashed a STK custom ROM...got stuck at lg boot logo. Got back to recovery went to filemanager and there it was data\app with all the apps had had installed in my aosp ROM. Loaded aosp backup and all is fine....but I deleted data\app with root browser and in recovery and still there.. :banghead:
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I usually wipe all data by all data I mean including data/media then I have no problems. Keep in mind this erases sdcard so you need to have rom on computer and adb push it to the sdcard to flash
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I think I will start from scratch with lgnpst and leave the internal memory alone this time and see if that was the cause.
update: Im back to stk going to root then unlock with freegee..Any advice for using freegee it soft bricked me last time and I had to flash tinybin
Well since I went back to unrooted and locked and started from scratch..tried using free gee then flashed tinybins all has gone well..no flashing problems anymore..I think messing with the internal memory is what caused my problems. Been almost a week and I have flashed between several roms and restored from backup many times.
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I had not seen this thread before or I would have chimed in by now. My issues don't go back to the 28th; only over the last week. My issue goes like this: I built and flash my own Beanstalk 1.561 ROM, and had no real functionality issues. I played with it for a day or two before realizing I hadn't backed it up. Did that, and at reboot, got a loop. WTF? I immediately thought it was the ROM, so I wiped Factory, dalvik and cache, and ran one of my older back ups. No problem. Flashed a new build of JellyBeer, updated everything, and backed it up. Restart and loop. Now I'm REALLY pissed. Restored my original stock back up; no prob. Okay, now I'm more confused than angry. Go to update my recovery(already running TWRP 2.5, but wanted a fresh install) Install of fresh recovery fails. I forget what the fail was for though, I was spitting nails at this point. Soooooo, really long story a little shorter, I downloaded and reinstalled TWRP 2.5, no problems. Dumped all of my 'standard' flashing files(Banks Gapps, Smoocha kernel, newer ROM downloads, etc), and redownloaded everything. Installed a fresh download of Beanstalk 1.561(build 7/07; original problem was on build 7/05), updated it, and performed a back up. SAME ISSUE. I think you can imagine the string of curses I want to put here. So, for me all back ups older than last week work fine. ANY BACK UP MADE EVEN TODAY FROM ONE OF MY OLDER BACK UPS RESTORES AND BOOTS FINE. But, any back up made form any of my newer builds(7/01 to now) flakes out. I haven't had the time to try other ROMs, and to be honest, I haven't tried to run anyone else's work since trying to install Vectus a few weeks ago. Does anyone have any info, advise, similar experience? This is driving me nuts, so anything would be great. PM me if you want to
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I had not seen this thread before or I would have chimed in by now. My issues don't go back to the 28th; only over the last week. My issue goes like this: I built and flash my own Beanstalk 1.561 ROM, and had no real functionality issues. I played with it for a day or two before realizing I hadn't backed it up. Did that, and at reboot, got a loop. WTF? I immediately thought it was the ROM, so I wiped Factory, dalvik and cache, and ran one of my older back ups. No problem. Flashed a new build of JellyBeer, updated everything, and backed it up. Restart and loop. Now I'm REALLY pissed. Restored my original stock back up; no prob. Okay, now I'm more confused than angry. Go to update my recovery(already running TWRP 2.5, but wanted a fresh install) Install of fresh recovery fails. I forget what the fail was for though, I was spitting nails at this point. Soooooo, really long story a little shorter, I downloaded and reinstalled TWRP 2.5, no problems. Dumped all of my 'standard' flashing files(Banks Gapps, Smoocha kernel, newer ROM downloads, etc), and redownloaded everything. Installed a fresh download of Beanstalk 1.561(build 7/07; original problem was on build 7/05), updated it, and performed a back up. SAME ISSUE. I think you can imagine the string of curses I want to put here. So, for me all back ups older than last week work fine. ANY BACK UP MADE EVEN TODAY FROM ONE OF MY OLDER BACK UPS RESTORES AND BOOTS FINE. But, any back up made form any of my newer builds(7/01 to now) flakes out. I haven't had the time to try other ROMs, and to be honest, I haven't tried to run anyone else's work since trying to install Vectus a few weeks ago. Does anyone have any info, advise, similar experience? This is driving me nuts, so anything would be great. PM me if you want to
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from some of your posts, i never hear you mention wiping /system. That could be some of the problem. Even restoring should have /system wipes.
Also on your backups are there at least 7 files in each? You might have ticked a button and aren't backing up /boot
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engine95 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from some of your posts, i never hear you mention wiping /system. That could be some of the problem. Even restoring should have /system wipes.
Also on your backups are there at least 7 files in each? You might have ticked a button and aren't backing up /boot
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Thanks for the response. I'll check into that advice and post what happened.
Checking on my one back up that I haven't deleted before anything else.This is what I have:
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
data.ext4.win
data.ext4.win.md5
efs1.emmc.win
efs1.emmc.win.md5
efs2.emmc.win
efs2.emmc.win.md5
efs3.emmc.win
efs3.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
It looks right to me, but honestly, I never looked that closely at the files. Looks the same as the other backups.....
BMP7777 said:
It looks right to me, but honestly, I never looked that closely at the files. Looks the same as the other backups.....
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Compared it to mine and it is. You just have the efs also. Maybe try formating /system then restore.
Also maybe try backing up without efs.
Just more options to try.
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Also, have you tried a flashable TWRP?
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I have had this problem and I thought it was just my ROM, I have been making changes to different apks and then flashing and if it bootloops I restore previous working version. Several times however the restores work and then bootloop or they fail in recovery. When this happens I wipe cache, dalvik, system, internal memory, data, factory reset. Then I go into download mode and LGPNST and flash original stock unrooted, then root then flash teeny bins, then I'm ok. It's a pain, thought it was just from me tinkering with things. Anyway that gets me working again, then I can reflash the ROM.
Update: More recently when I've had this happen I just format data and then push what I'm trying to flash into /data/media. Much easier.
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[q] help please

Hello, I have a rogers i747 and I installed the newest CM build today and my internal storage would no longer show up. Afterwards I tried to use a recovery in TWRP and now my phone won't install data or system from any files that I try to flash. The phone will go into recovery mode and it will also go into downloading mode but I have no idea what to do. I can't seem to use any of my recoveries or even flash a new ROM onto the phone.
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Are you entirely sure internal storage is gone? If you didn't know, the storage is nested into an emulate /0 folder. If you can get the phone to boot go ahead and look around in File Manager or Root Explorer for that folder. Everything you had on internal storage should be located there.
Onto the crazier things you're mentioning...
You should only have one "recovery". Unless of course you mean to say backups that you've saved in the event something goes wrong. Unfortunately with some recoveries the blob files for the backup stack up over time and get too large to be restored. I think updating the recovery might fix that, but I never had to mess with any of that stuff. I usually ended up returning to completely stock software to fix the issues I had the first few times I caught problems no amount of wiping would fix.
Before you do anything crazy go ahead and boot into recovery (hold volume up + home button + power until you see the samsung logo and it boots into twrp or cwm depending on what you're using), clear cache, clear dalvik cache in advanced and then reboot system now. Some issues are taken care of by that, some aren't.
Failing that, try a full wipe of your phone and reflashing the ROM assuming your files haven't been corrupted/deleted somehow.
If that doesn't work you'll need to use Odin or Kies or whatever to return to completely stock and reroot and all that nonsense.
Good luck.
I ended up having to flash a stock rom with Odin and it ended up working again. Not sure what happened but none of my backups would load and the phone was saying that storage was in use but the files weren't accessible and the backups wouldn't write to the internal storage they would say successful but do nothing. If I install twrp and try to flash cm again is there a chance that this same issue will occur again? And does anyone have an idea of why this occurred in the first place? I have never had an issue flashing between roms or using recoveries in the past. Just afraid of permanently bricking my phone at this point by installing a custom rom again. Never had issues before the new cm.
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[Q] bootloop with no access to int.sd. no flash, no backup.

Ok Id like to start with the fact that I have searched for this on google and the forums. I did find a modded recovery img but still not much as far as why/what caused this. Heres the details:
decided today was the day I was gonna flash from stock 4.1.2 to PA 3.99. I revisited the thread to make sure on the development, and to see if there was any special instructions. Just to be safe I also stopped by the TWRP thread and found that update info as well and did what was needed in Goo Manager. So with updated recovery a fresh backup, I went forward with flashing. Wiped everything, flash PA then Gapps, then BMS well....no issue. Booted to system like normal setup google and went about my way tweaking with visual preferences. I then had to reboot, because PA_Gapps needed to be flashed in the PA udpater, so I let it do its thing....this is where things turn bad. Rebooting to recovery went fine as it flashed the new gapps....but after the reboot it just STAYED at the samsung logo "booped by BMS"....nothing else. left it for 10 mins, still nothing happened.
I then try to recover with my backup...nope i couldnt see anything in TWRP file manager. It said eMMC, sd-ext, sdcard, root, boot, data, cache, datadata and usb-otg were empty directories. I cant do anything right now. I've really never had to deal with odin or ADB and its lookin more and more like Im gonna have to go that method.
Does anyone have any insight on this issue? Thx
Yes all your backups and your root files gave been moved to the emulated folder. That happens when you flash 4.2 or 4.3 using your recovery your going to have to search your internal storage until you find it. Or you can connect the phone to the computer access your internal storage abd copy everything to the 0 folder directory. But if you go into recovery wipe everything again and search your internal storage you will find the rom and you should be able to reflash. The gapps is what messed you up.
Remember search is your best friend, Have a great day!
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Yes all your backups and your root files gave been moved to the emulated folder. That happens when you flash 4.2 or 4.3 using your recovery your going to have to search your internal storage until you find it. Or you can connect the phone to the computer access your internal storage abd copy everything to the 0 folder directory. But if you go into recovery wipe everything again and search your internal storage you will find the rom and you should be able to reflash. The gapps is what messed you up.
Remember search is your best friend, Have a great day!
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Thank you, but i cant flash anything.
I just tried wiping and it said failed. I tried factory reset and a full wipe both failed. I can odin files but i cant flash a damn thing. I cant find clockwork tar to odin for the life of me. Any directory I need, seems to have access cut off to it through recovery.
I actually searched the WHOLE filesystem and did not find folder 0. Same for any of the prior files i had in the internal storage.
As we speak i just reflashed PA 3.99 successfully, when i tried wiping dalvik it failed, still couldnt access most directories and factory wipe failed too.
Any ideas?
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Thank you, but i cant flash anything.
I just tried wiping and it said failed. I tried factory reset and a full wipe both failed. I can odin files but i cant flash a damn thing. I cant find clockwork tar to odin for the life of me. Any directory I need, seems to have access cut off to it through recovery.
I actually searched the WHOLE filesystem and did not find folder 0. Same for any of the prior files i had in the internal storage.
As we speak i just reflashed PA 3.99 successfully, when i tried wiping dalvik it failed, still couldnt access most directories and factory wipe failed too.
Any ideas?
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Let me get you a link to odin twrp tgat way you can odin the recovery on just in case it was corrupted then I suggest flashing a TW rom just to get everything working
Here http://d-h.st/of8 this is tar file for twrp
Remember search is your best friend, Have a great day!
edfunkycold said:
Let me get you a link to odin twrp tgat way you can odin the recovery on just in case it was corrupted then I suggest flashing a TW rom just to get everything working
Here http://d-h.st/of8 this is tar file for twrp
Remember search is your best friend, Have a great day!
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ok....redownloading TW 4.1.2.
eMMC, sd-ext, sdcard, root, boot, data, cache, datadata and usb-otg were empty
and going to odin your link
Could this have to do with TWRP asking for a password on recovery boot?
fixed with downgrade to twrp 2.4.4.0 then full wipe then back up to 2.6.1.0. Thanks for your response
edfunkycold said:
Let me get you a link to odin twrp tgat way you can odin the recovery on just in case it was corrupted then I suggest flashing a TW rom just to get everything working
Here http://d-h.st/of8 this is tar file for twrp
Remember search is your best friend, Have a great day!
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Well I really mistaken when I thought it was fixed. I can just format data and it returns to normal boot but only one time. After that boot into system any reboot causes the same bootlock or password request @ twrp start. What am I missing? I haven't formatted every partition, updated and downgraded twrp, defaulted everything and still same issue. Does this have to do with TWRPs new encryption feature? I can't downgrade TWRP right now but that's my next to do. When did they start recovery encryption? pls&thx and yes i search everytime for anyone feeling that this is not worth helping.
I dont try to bother anybody on here unless i have to, and when i have to....well not too often does there seem to be much kindness behind the help. This isn't a stab at anyone, just observations of other peoples requests along with mine.
Again thx.
Flash to clockwork. Been working fine ever since
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