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Probably beating a dead horse here

Hey guys, Thanks ahead of time for the help.
Like I said I'm probably beating a dead horse here but I'd appreciate a shove in the right direction.
I just Rooted my phone using simple root and I was looking to install a custom rom when I realized....
I have no idea how or what I'm doing.
APK?
ADB?
NAND?
all things I dont understand.
And while I did understand you can un-root your phone I never did think to look into how before I rooted my phone <not that I can imagine wanting to> Especially since many of my buddys work at a service and repair store and if my phone ever does need service, its no problem.
so while im not to worried about un-rooting at the moment if you feel like giving me some info I wont argue! haha
more importantly tho, What do I need to know about installing custom roms/themes etc and does anyone know how to get some free wifi tether going on?
downloaded free wifi tether from android market but it doesnt work for whatever reason.
Thank you and please forgive my ignorance, you guys are on a whole other level.

tried to install and use Rom Manager but got "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
any idea's? cant fix permissions threw app either, gives the same error

Alanmw86 said:
tried to install and use Rom Manager but got "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
any idea's? cant fix permissions threw app either, gives the same error
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That sounds like you don't have root permissions. Do you have a superuser app in the system drawer? If you don't then you probably don't have root access.
I am away from my pc right now but when I get back I will post a link to a guide that webs05 wrote will help explain a lot.
Welcome to the community!
Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO

Thats kind of the impression that I got, yet a couple of the Root only programs I'm using are working.
If thats the case its easy enough to redo if i lost root somehow but atm I dont know how to revert it back haha, ugh I hate being a newbie!
look forward to your later post, ty.

it does sound like you are rooted but you are getting a error trying to use clockwork is the img that is used in simple root does not allow superuser access for some reason... More than likely
ok my first question is can you boot into recovery? You do that by turning the phone off and, once it is off holding Vol Down and the power button. You should be able to hit the down arrow once and hit the power button to boot into recovery.
You should be able to do this just fine. This is where you will flash ROM's. You can do this with clockwork, but you need to flash their recovery image. I personally prefer look up ROM's here to see what's going on with them and flash them that way but the choice is yours.
You do need to find a ROM that you like and you need to flash it either with your recovery or from ROM manager.
This guide should answer a lot of your questions. If that helps thank Webs05 he gathered up the info and put it in one place any other questions feel free to ask.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shdowthread.php?t=710513

This thread should help also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717955
sounds like you're not rooted correctly.

first link is not working for me, I will check out that second link when I get home and try that. But I presume this is the one I found it by the user name.
Both extremely helpful posts, I swear I searched for hours trying to find something similar, TY I'll let you guys know my outcome when I get a chance to try it out.

I'm starting to think I'm missing a whole second step after doing Simpleroot for 1.47 but not able to figure out what exactly that is haha, Oh man I am so about to give up haha

Alanmw86 said:
I'm starting to think I'm missing a whole second step after doing Simpleroot for 1.47 but not able to figure out what exactly that is haha, Oh man I am so about to give up haha
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What steps exactly did you do?
Only the ones in the simpleroot post where you click through the 4 buttons for each step?
If so, you should be rooted, but you have to load a ROM to continue. If so, follow these steps here for the basic stock rooted ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
Follow it from the NOTE: through step 18 and you'll be golden

Alanmw86 said:
Oh man I am so about to give up haha
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Never give up! Never surrender!
Once you get it rooted you will never want stock again.
Were you able to boot into recovery?
Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO

Yes, I am able to get it into recover, Power+ volume down and then recovery and then I can hold power and volume up for an options menu...If I recall, did this the other night, cant remember why.

Its starting to sound like your rooting process did not complete. Right after hitting power and vol down then selecting recovery you should see some options i.e. backup/restore, flash zip from SD card, wipe... If you see those download a ROM and put it on your SD card. Go back to recovery select wipe and you need to wipe dalvik cache, cache, and factory settings ( can't remember what exactly its called) then return to the previous menu and select flash zip. From there its pretty self explanatory. If you can't see anything I just said it sounds like you need to try rooting from the beginning again. Hope that helps.
Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO

I actually Am able to get to this part now, And I am able to use wireless tether app now so I presume i'm rooted correctly
ooooow, and I just flashed a ROM to it, so now I understand how I did that, what If i want to change roms or loading screen etc? ugh! lol
I did this (sorry it wont let me post whole link because I'm a new user) so its this without the spaces.
http:// forum.xda-developers.com /showthread.php? t=715915

good to hear!
If you want to change ROM's remember to always do a Nandroid backup first. That way if it messes up you have a place to start over. Whenever you are switching to a new ROM it usually helps if you wipe. Sometimes you don't need to but if you get stuck in a boot loop that means you should have
Keep reading and searching and you will find a lot of things to make the phone exactly how you want it. If you have any questions feel free to pm me.

Same Problem
I'm having the same problem regarding the privileged commands error. I just tried your advice with the power off and then power on while holding the volume down button. That definitely booted into ClockworkMod Recovery. I'm now at the point where I have a series of options. Which should I use?
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- install zip from sdcard
- nandroid
- partition menu
- advanced
- +++++Go Back+++++
EDIT: Just read previous responses more carefully. I guess maybe I need to rewipe tonight. I thought I didn't want to install a rom until I'm able to flash clockworkmod recovery. I'll take any additional advice not listed here.

bluger said:
I'm having the same problem regarding the privileged commands error. I just tried your advice with the power off and then power on while holding the volume down button. That definitely booted into ClockworkMod Recovery. I'm now at the point where I have a series of options. Which should I use?
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- install zip from sdcard
- nandroid
- partition menu
- advanced
- +++++Go Back+++++
EDIT: Just read previous responses more carefully. I guess maybe I need to rewipe tonight. I thought I didn't want to install a rom until I'm able to flash clockworkmod recovery. I'll take any additional advice not listed here.
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If you are able to boot into recovery then you should be able to flash a custom ROM. If I am correct you probably used the simple root method. The img that you flashed at the end of that does not allow superuser access for some reason. You need to flash a custom rom.
If it shows clockwork at the top when you are in recovery then you should be able to flash a new ROM from ROM manager or you can just place the ROM on the root of the sd card and select install zip from sd card. Just make sure to wipe.
Hope that helps.

[Q] OK, so what am I missing....

First off, thanks for all the help so far, this site is the best!
I just rooted my Evo using the unrevoked3. Had a little bit of trouble, nothing major, and overall it was a success. I also installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup, based on suggestions found here.
The problem is, I'm not quite getting how to flash the roms... I downloaded one through ROM manager, and it seemed to work, but I didn't notice a single thing different. I tried to install CyanogenMod, and it downloaded, but it would always fail during the install.
I tried downloading on my computer, then moving the .zip file to my sdcard. Then I select "install rom from sdcard" and everything seems to go ok, I end up having to go into recovery and "rollback" my phone to the stock rom, because twice now I've almost bricked my phone.
Really, what I'm wanting is a setup like that "Kuma Style" one (without the animal), and a different bootscreen. I have spent a lot of time searching around, and it seems simple enough, I just seem to be missing some integral part of the proccess.....
Any help is appreciated!

Mark_Hardware said:
First off, thanks for all the help so far, this site is the best!
I just rooted my Evo using the unrevoked3. Had a little bit of trouble, nothing major, and overall it was a success. I also installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup, based on suggestions found here.
The problem is, I'm not quite getting how to flash the roms... I downloaded one through ROM manager, and it seemed to work, but I didn't notice a single thing different. I tried to install CyanogenMod, and it downloaded, but it would always fail during the install.
I tried downloading on my computer, then moving the .zip file to my sdcard. Then I select "install rom from sdcard" and everything seems to go ok, I end up having to go into recovery and "rollback" my phone to the stock rom, because twice now I've almost bricked my phone.
Really, what I'm wanting is a setup like that "Kuma Style" one (without the animal), and a different bootscreen. I have spent a lot of time searching around, and it seems simple enough, I just seem to be missing some integral part of the proccess.....
Any help is appreciated!
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I am not familiar with Unrevoked, but just running unrevoked doesn't completely root your phone. You need to do the second parts of rooting which unlocks nand.

Ah, so there is more to do. Maybe that's the problem then.... *off in search of how to unlock nand

Mark_Hardware said:
Ah, so there is more to do. Maybe that's the problem then.... *off in search of how to unlock nand
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Unlocking nand just unlocks something so that you can save full image backups. That wouldn't lead to your phone not installing a ROM right, it's just something you'll want just in case things go wrong. So still finish the root and get nand. But that's not what you're missing here.
Possible error: Did you wipe settings &factory reset and wipe cache in ClockworkMod before flashing the ROM? I think that could lead to some problems.

Try flashing the alternative Amon Ra recovery through rom manager (will state that rom manager won't be fully functional unless clockworkmod is installed) and loading the roms onto the sd card then reboot into recovery. Amon Ra seems to work better imo than clockworkmod. When you're talking about something like "kuma style," those are themes that are usually flashable in recovery also. The boot animation could alse be flashable in recovery but if not, there are instructions on how to adb push custom ones onto your phone.

rugedraw said:
I am not familiar with Unrevoked, but just running unrevoked doesn't completely root your phone. You need to do the second parts of rooting which unlocks nand.
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just fyi, the latest unrevoked (3.21) unlocks nand so u dont need to do it.
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones:
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Sprint EVO 4G"
i'd link the wiki but i cant cuz i'm a new user lol

Gah! So I downloaded the enamored theme, moved it to the sd card, then went to ROM Manager and selected "Reboot into Recovery"and selected the enamored.zip. It said the install was a success, but when I rebooted, the phone stuck on the bootanimation. I tried restarting a couple times, but it always gets stuck in the same place.
I booted into recovery (if thats waht you call the hold the volume button down while pushing the power button trick), and selected recover, then nandroid, then a time under yesterdays date. Phone recovered fine.
WtH am I doing wrong? I realize I am way out of my league, but I'm not completely retarded. Again, GAH!

Are u wiping data and cache when flashing a ROM? I have been stuck at the CM6 boot animation when coming from a different Rom and not wiping.
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Mark_Hardware said:
Gah! So I downloaded the enamored theme, moved it to the sd card, then went to ROM Manager and selected "Reboot into Recovery"and selected the enamored.zip. It said the install was a success, but when I rebooted, the phone stuck on the bootanimation. I tried restarting a couple times, but it always gets stuck in the same place.
I booted into recovery (if thats waht you call the hold the volume button down while pushing the power button trick), and selected recover, then nandroid, then a time under yesterdays date. Phone recovered fine.
WtH am I doing wrong? I realize I am way out of my league, but I'm not completely retarded. Again, GAH!
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When you flash a theme, it could take up to 2-5 minutes to finish. This occurs during the boot animation. I flash themes all the time and I notice it's usually around 2-3 minutes wait. Maybe faster for others but that's just been my experience. If it's over 5 minutes than there's probably something wrong with your zip file or maybe clockworkmod recovery doesn't flash it properly. Also, it could be an issue with the kernel you're using...I noticed on kingklick cfs #10, I was stuck on boot animation for about 7 minutes and so I reverted back to the stock kernel and the theme was applied within 3 minutes.

ok, apparently I've been missing that step...
where do I do that again?

mizzos4 said:
When you flash a theme, it could take up to 2-5 minutes to finish. This occurs during the boot animation. I flash themes all the time and I notice it's usually around 2-3 minutes wait. Maybe faster for others but that's just been my experience. If it's over 5 minutes than there's probably something wrong with your zip file or maybe clockworkmod recovery doesn't flash it properly.
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I waited a good long time. Am I at least headed in the right direction? Sorry to sound whiny, it's just that there's a few little things I want to do, and I'm intimidated as hell by actually doing any command line, so I'm hoping to avoid that- aka riding someone else's coattails

First, which rom are you using and is it stock or custom kernel? Are you using clockworkmod recovery? Try flashing the alternative amon ra recovery in rom manager then boot into recovery and apply your selected theme.

if you are using a stock rom it must say stock 2.2 deodexed
if it is not a deodexed rom.. of any kind.. then themes will say they flashed but they will either brick your phone or not work at all.
and stop using clockwork.... just use amon ra
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I could be way off here, but I've seen some people who rooted using unrevoked, and run into trouble flashing things (or maybe I'm thinking of trouble with terminal commands) and it turned out they couldn't find flash_image anywhere in there SD card, Which should be installed (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).
I saw a lot of reports of this in chainsDDs superuser thread, if I remember correctly. They had to install flash_image.img (which is a file available on toasts part 2 root tutorial)
I obviously could be wrong about this, I've never used unrevoked, I rooted via toast, and his method included everything.
@ V_lestat
Thanks for the heads up about themes having the ability to brick your phone if not deodexed, I never knew that. I flash roms and kernels a lotbut never messed with themes much.
At OP, have a look at virus Rom thread. It's a great ROM, and he has built some different themes to go with it. Beautiful stuff, great ROM, great thread.
Good luck
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See, some people say use clockwork, some people say Amon.
I looked around a lot beforehand, and people kept saying to use unrevoked, so I did. Now people say I should have used Toast?
Thanks for everybodies help so far, I am reading everything and taking it all in.

I Don't Mean to add any Confusion to your situation. I am new to this also.. I went with unrevoked also and when I booted into recovery with clockwork mod. I did a nand back up first to make sure if anything went wrong I could just boot back into recovery and load my backup. Then I wiped my Data & Davlick Cache all of the caches. Then I installed my Rom and it worked like a charm. I will add it did take about 5 to 7 mins to boot only on the first time though. I hope that helps some as to the process and what to do first don't give up XDA rocks with the smartest mind on the planet.

Mark_Hardware said:
ok, apparently I've been missing that step...
where do I do that again?
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If you are using ROM Manager to "install zip from card" it presents you with a dialog with two unchecked check boxes. One of them is "wipe data + cache". make sure you check it before hitting ok on that dialog.

If you are manually booting into recovery then in the recovery choices you will see one that says wipe data and one thats says wipe davlik cache. first do a nandroid back up then wipe those data and davlik then install the rom. By the way are you just installing a theme or a full rom that might be the issue i am just wondering maybe a senior member can help on wether you can install a theme over a rooted stock theme or not?

Success!
I went into ROM Manager, backed up current ROM, went into recovery manually, wiped the cache, then installed from zip, and it worked! I tried a cool theme I found, and I like it, but it seemed old. I just installed fresh, and the enamored theme, and all is working great!
A couple more questions,
1) how do I get my contacts back?
2) How do I get my apps back onto my phone? I have them backed up on appbrain, but I haven't been able to find how to get them back to the phone.
So far, I've tried a couple of ROM's (and/or themes) and I've ended up flashing back to my own "safe" one, until I figure these two things out.
A tremendous thanks to everyones help! I seriously couldn't have done it without you guys
Edit; Oh yeah, one other thing. How do I delete the other nand backups? There's like 5, and I need to free up some memory. I tried going in and selecting one to see if it gave me the option to delete, but I didn't see anywhere that it did.... Got it. Search feature to the rescue

[Q] what are your thoughts on the update? is it stable?

are their any problems with it? if so are they fixable? FYI im talking about the leaked froyo update. Also is their more then one version of it? IVe been thinking about updating and could use some input as to what I should do. Any help is appreciated.

Hey bro I wasn't being a **** towards you on your last post. I was just trying to tell you that it was in the wrong section. Welcome to the.forums and this is a great place if you want to learn. I'm on the update now running bonsai rom with ext4 and its very stable. I get better battery life than eclair and everything works. The only issue I have is occasionally when I make a call I don't hear it ring till I toggle speakerphone on/off. That's a common bug. Other than that its an awesome leak and I'm gonna be on it till the official release and update it manually. I would Def. Update if I were you. The best way in my opinion is to use Odin to get a fresh install and make sure you have a GPS lock before you flash so your GPS will work on froyo. Good luck
Sent from my Evo Killer!

Its cool. could you provide me link to all the things listed? assuming its not against the rules. Preferably the best version of the update or clarification of what it is would be helpful.

http://briefmobile.com/how-to-update-sprint-epic-4g-to-android-2-2. Use the second set of instructions. Download Odin and the full tar file. Put the phone in download mode by turning it off and then holding the 1key on the keyboard and the power button. If it's in dl mode you will see a guy like shoveling stuff. Open Odin and put the full dk28 tar file (make sure it's the correct size like 289mb) in the PDA section. Make sure first that Odin recognizes the phone so there should be COM that pops up in the box on the upper left corner with some numbers(don't worry bout what the number is). So plug the phone into the computer after Odin is up not before. After Odin recognizes the phone go to the PDA section not phone but PDA and plug the full Dk28 file into this. Make sure only auto reboot is the only thing checked on the left side and DON'T USE THE PIT FILE. it can cause Odin to fail and it's not needed for rom flashing. Once everything is ready hit start. You will see a progress bar on the phone and computer. Once you hit start it should take around 3-4 mins to complete and don't unplug the phone till it's done. If for some reason it says it failed or it just hangs at a certain step just keep trying. Sometimes it takes me a couple tries. One more thing before you shut your phone off to put it on dl mode one up aps and turn your gps on and get a lock. That way your gps will work once it's flashed. Good luck. Any questions just ask but you can follow the guide n the website I gave you the only thing that I told you that is different than the website is they say to use the pit file. remember don't you dont need it.

KEY PIECE OF ADVICE MISSING HERE. before you flash that file rename out taming the .md5 extension off. Also when he says only have reboot checked, means un check that box labeled f.reset its easy to overlook. Now the pit file, normally I don't use it but this is changing complete os version not just an eclair update I would go ahead and use it. Its just a map for odin to use when partitioning the install and with froyo for sure the modem has been moved around on a diff sector. This time I would use it. Best of luck and read over all the directions before you do it to make sure you are comfortable with it.
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You can rename the file but I've never had a problem with using the tar file with. Md5. Odin accepts it but I guess some people have had problems with it. Also I didn't use the.pit going to dk28 and my.phone works fine. I've never used the pit file. Only time its needed is for.flashing kernels and modem files bit it's not gonna hurt if you use it. I've actually had the pit.file make my flash fail before the first time I tried to use the pit file.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

Thanks Guys! One more question. Could you tell me how to also root my phone after this update so I can use my phone as a wireless hotspot? Im also curious as to what the benefits of rooting are and what I can do once im done. Hopefully I dont sound like a idiot ,but I am needing to educate myself more.

Sure I can help you. Once you get to 2.2 like I Saif you have 2 options. To keep you rfs filesystem or switch.to ext4. I.recommend going.to ext4. It will make your phone faster and alot.of rom developers have switched to ext4 so.if you want.the newest rom updates you need it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612. That's the link for the one click.root plus clockwork version 3 that will convert you to ext4.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388 . That's the link for the one click root and cwm. If you want to stick with the stock filing system. I have the latest version of bonsai rom installed with ext4 filing system. Let me know what you decide to go with. If you go with ext4 and cwm3 it only supports edify scripts to flash but a lot of zips have been converted to edify. Just let me know if you go with cwm3 and I'll explain this in more detail for you.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

Will it change the stock layout/menu of my phone? or erase anything? Also Im assuming a rom is somthing you load on your phone like a game with a emulator. But what exactly do these roms do?
Also last question and im off to work on this. I heard this update can also increase my battery life is that true?

As far as a rom erasing all your data yes when you flash the rom you boot into clockwork and you have to clear all data and cache before flashing so when your phone boots up you won't have any data there. It's like a brand new phone, but if you do a backup in clockwork and then after you erase all data and flash the rom you can do an advanced restore and restore all your data. It's a really nice feature to have. As far as a rom losing the stock look it depends on the rom. Some roms look stock and others don't. The best thing you can do is go to the development section and open up the different roms and look at the pics of what it looks like to have that rom on your phone and also look at the change logs and it will tell you what is on the rom. If you want to keep the stock look bonsai rom v1.1.4 leafless version looks pretty stock and if you get tired of that you can then flash the theme over top of the rom and it changes it up a bit. If you want I can post pics of my setup so you can see if you like it. I hope I answered your questions so you can understand it. As far as battery life I'm getting better battery life on dk28 But it will get even better when custom kernels come out for froyo and then they can under volt them. That won't happen till the ota comes out and the source code is released but yes I'm getting better battery life on froyo then I was on stock eclair. Also the good thing bout rooting is you can freeze or delete all of the bloatware that you don't use. For instance the sprint NASCAR app or whatever else that comes on the phone that wastes space. If you have any more questions just ask. When you decide to do this I can give you my google talk username and I can walk you thru the process and get you a nice rom setup on your phone. Just let me know. Later

Got it done. But now I can't find apps I need in the market place is teir any kind of fix for that?

Ok did you instal the drivers? If not let me know if you have a 32 or 64 bit and ill post them for you. Also if its a desktop try.the USB in the back closest to the motherboard. Also the stock cable sucks and you need to get another one. Radioshack has one or eBay. But you need the computer to recognize the phone or you can't root it either and install cwm. If you did install the drivers plug the phone in when its turned on and it should install them for you as long as you downloaded them. If you installed the drivers try turning on USB debugging ( settings-applications-development) and then plug the computer in and if the drivers are installed properly in the notification bar it would say USB connected and then USB debugging on. That means the phone and the computer can recognize each other
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

found the drivers and got the update installed but some of my apps just arent in the market place that I used to have. Is that normal? I was hoping to redownload mobile banking and cant find it.

found the drivers and got the update installed but some of my apps just arent in the market place that I used to have. Is that normal? I was hoping to redownload mobile banking and cant find it. Is their a fix?

Yeah that's normal I can't.remember why but when you flash a rom they will come back. There us a fix somewhere in the development section but if you flash a custom rom you'll be fine. Noe use.the one click root with cwm version 3 to convert to ext4.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

at this point all i have done is install the leaked update. I want to be able to download the apps I cannot get to some of which may be protected in the marketplace. Is their a link or way around this with out rooting or would i need to root to access them? also if I do root I want the same layout my menus have now so where can I find a walkthrough for this? thanks guys for your patience and help. ALSO UPDATE I want to go ahead with the root and ext.4 rom it and but i dont want my menus or anything to change whats the next ?or would they change?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848778. That will help you to fix why uoi are missing some apps. If you want yo ho to ext4 rom then I suggest bonsai Mammon rom v 1.1.4 leafless. This rom has the stock look but with extra performance added. Just run the one click root with.clockwork mod version 3 to convert to ext4 then flash the rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612. That's Tue.root you have to run. Here's the rom I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869295

update I placed ext 4 on here and rooted it. Now how do I apply the market fix and im done for a while.

I cant seem to find the folder to apply the fix

Back up EVERYTHING before rooting?

Alright, as some of you know, I really, really, REALLY, messed up on my last root attempt.
Apparently I didn't backup what I was supposed to. That was my own stupid a55 mistake and I have admitted to it.
I DO plan to attempt a root again so that I can get this theme on my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042268
There are things that I need to know before I attempt this (and yes I know there are forums already on this but I need to be 110% sure)
1) How do I back up EVERYTHING on my phone and put it on my computer or SD card or somewhere that I can go to incase I mess up again?
2) What is the EASIEST program/method to root this Samsung Epic 4g?
3) (I'm not too sure what I'm talking about here ((remember, I'm a total noob)))
I tried CWM 3.0.0.5 before... is this a ROM that I attempted to go to?
3ii) If I should'nt be using CWM, what should I use?
4) Is Froyo and CWM the same time of thing? or two different things completely?
and finally:
5) Give me all of your recommendations on this please! I DON'T WANNA MESS UP AGAIN!
And please none of this "You messed up before, dont try it again!" crap, I know I messed up, and I know this is stupid, but the fact of the matter is, I'm trying it again to get this theme on my device. So PLEASE help me out!
Thanks everyone!

cheech92007 said:
Alright, as some of you know, I really, really, REALLY, messed up on my last root attempt.
Apparently I didn't backup what I was supposed to. That was my own stupid a55 mistake and I have admitted to it.
I DO plan to attempt a root again so that I can get this theme on my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042268
There are things that I need to know before I attempt this (and yes I know there are forums already on this but I need to be 110% sure)
1) How do I back up EVERYTHING on my phone and put it on my computer or SD card or somewhere that I can go to incase I mess up again?
2) What is the EASIEST program/method to root this Samsung Epic 4g?
3) (I'm not too sure what I'm talking about here ((remember, I'm a total noob)))
I tried CWM 3.0.0.5 before... is this a ROM that I attempted to go to?
3ii) If I should'nt be using CWM, what should I use?
4) Is Froyo and CWM the same time of thing? or two different things completely?
and finally:
5) Give me all of your recommendations on this please! I DON'T WANNA MESS UP AGAIN!
And please none of this "You messed up before, dont try it again!" crap, I know I messed up, and I know this is stupid, but the fact of the matter is, I'm trying it again to get this theme on my device. So PLEASE help me out!
Thanks everyone!
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Ok, first things first. Not to be rude, but you are at the first step of enjoying Epic goodness; rooting your phone. It should be obvious that this step is covered ALL over XDA and a simple google search would have lead you to the following page:
CWM 3.0.0.5
There are already wayyyy too many threads asking questions that were answered long before they were ever even asked in the first place.
Okay, now that that's out of the way .
1. If you're absolutely freaked about losing anything, MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will back up all your apps. Then simply plug your phone into your computer and copy the entire contents of your sd card to your harddrive. Mybackup Root can be used once your rooted and is free.
2. Use the link i posted.
3. CWM is not a Rom. It replaces the default recovery subsystem with one you can use to flash Roms. You enter it from the off state by pressing Volume Down+Camera+Power. Do not use CWM 3.0.2.4.
4. Froyo is simply the version of android. The Samsung Epic is on Froyo, or 2.2. Roms come in various flavors like Eclair(2.1), Froyo(2.2), and hopefully soon for the Epic, Gingerbread(2.3).
5. Search around the Epic Android Development for a Rom that makes you excited. A good suggestion for you would be Midnight 5.2. All you have to do is download the Rom .zip file to your SD, boot into CWM 3, Install from SD, and point it to the .zip. Read the forums for how to safely install their Roms like clearing data and making/restoring backups.
Remember, everything you've asked has been asked and answered many times, so please search next time to avoid making unnecessary threads and to gain your answer faster!

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Ok, first things first. Not to be rude, but you are at the first step of enjoying Epic goodness; rooting your phone. It should be obvious that this step is covered ALL over XDA and a simple google search would have lead you to the following page:
CWM 3.0.0.5
There are already wayyyy too many threads asking questions that were answered long before they were ever even asked in the first place.
Okay, now that that's out of the way .
1. If you're absolutely freaked about losing anything, MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will back up all your apps. Then simply plug your phone into your computer and copy the entire contents of your sd card to your harddrive. Mybackup Root can be used once your rooted and is free.
2. Use the link i posted.
3. CWM is not a Rom. It replaces the default recovery subsystem with one you can use to flash Roms. You enter it from the off state by pressing Volume Down+Camera+Power. Do not use CWM 3.0.2.4.
4. Froyo is simply the version of android. The Samsung Epic is on Froyo, or 2.2. Roms come in various flavors like Eclair(2.1), Froyo(2.2), and hopefully soon for the Epic, Gingerbread(2.3).
5. Search around the Epic Android Development for a Rom that makes you excited. A good suggestion for you would be Midnight 5.2. All you have to do is download the Rom .zip file to your SD, boot into CWM 3, Install from SD, and point it to the .zip. Read the forums for how to safely install their Roms like clearing data and making/restoring backups.
Remember, everything you've asked has been asked and answered many times, so please search next time to avoid making unnecessary threads and to gain your answer faster!
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Okay the main thing that I am confused about is number 5. Why do I want these ROM's exactly? Pretty much all I want is that Red Angry Alien theme.

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Okay the main thing that I am confused about is number 5. Why do I want these ROM's exactly? Pretty much all I want is that Red Angry Alien theme.
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After reviewing your other posts, I am now aware that you have asked a lot of this and already been answered but are clearly not interested in reading the information presented to you. This should have been continued in the last thread that you started, but what's done is done. Your key problem is rooting with CWM which converts the file system to EXT4. You will have to flash a new rom or kernel immediately following or the phone can't boot. This means that you must have a new rom or kernel .zip file on your sd card PRIOR TO ROOTING. I haven't messed around too much with a rooted stock rom, but at the least you need a new kernel, search for and try VisionKernel if thats all you want.
Please refrain from starting any more threads, you've already been given more information than you need by myself and others. Search around XDA, it can be fun!

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You will have to flash a new rom or kernel immediately following or the phone can't boot. This means that you must have a new rom or kernel .zip file on your sd card PRIOR TO ROOTING. I haven't messed around too much with a rooted stock rom, but at the least you need a new kernel, search for and try VisionKernel if thats all you want.
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Alright, I just downloaded the EB13-DUALFS-KERNEL.zip to my desktop...is THIS what you were talking about that I need on my SD card first? I looked inside it and it has a KERNEL file in it... So I put this on my SD card, then ROOT, then UNZIP the EB13 on my devices when Im in CWM Reboot?

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Alright, I just downloaded the EB13-DUALFS-KERNEL.zip to my desktop...is THIS what you were talking about that I need on my SD card first? I looked inside it and it has a KERNEL file in it... So I put this on my SD card, then ROOT, then UNZIP the EB13 on my devices when Im in CWM Reboot?
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There is no unzipping. In CWM, you simply select "Install from sd", point to your .zip file, and tell it to start. CWM is pretty straight forward to navigate. It will probably take a couple minutes, after which you will select the Reboot option and watch your phone load.

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Okay the main thing that I am confused about is number 5. Why do I want these ROM's exactly? Pretty much all I want is that Red Angry Alien theme.
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What randomking said....and
I didn't see what the red angry alien theme was designed for.... it just says ec05...ec05 is the latest build of froyo we have. Because all you want is a theme I'm going to suggest you do the oneclick root cwm version 2.5.5(stock file system).
I assume you'll need to be on a deodexed rom to flash that, but you may want to try it(since you learned how to odin you can just about recover from anything) and see if it works.
After you run the oneclick 2.5.5 root your good to go, just boot back into clockworkmod(2.5.5 is green text and not orange) click down to backup/restore, click on it and then click backup. This is what's called a nandroid. A nandroid is a complete backup of your entire system, including all user data. The only thing it will not backup is the kernel, since your not changing the kernel it won't matter. If you have problems or mess up you just wipe everything/factory reset/cache/dalvik cache and instead of going to backup, you select restore....blaam exactly the way your phone was when you backed it up. BTW backing up and restoring takes about 10minutes and don't try it when your battery is almost dead.
Hope that helps a bit more and don't rush it, the theme will be here for a long while I'm sure.

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There is no unzipping. In CWM, you simply select "Install from sd", point to your .zip file, and tell it to start. CWM is pretty straight forward to navigate. It will probably take a couple minutes, after which you will select the Reboot option and watch your phone load.
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Great, Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
Now all I need to do is get my theme on here xD

cheech92007 said:
Great, Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
Now all I need to do is get my theme on here xD
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On second thought cheech, go herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997 and watch every single one of these videos and don't ask anything more untill you have.....deal?

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On second thought cheech, go herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997 and watch every single one of these videos and don't ask anything more untill you have.....deal?
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yessir!

cheech92007 said:
yessir!
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I'll thank that post later if you really watch ALL those videos.....they're really helpful

[Q] help a super noob please

Ok so I'm an extreme noob with roms and themes. I recently rooted my wifes evo 4G and she wants a rom and theme on it and I have no clue what im doing. So I'm hoping this post will point me in the right direction. I rooted the phone per this exact method succesfully here. I also have a screenshot of the software versions if that helps. If there is anything else i can provide to further help my quest please let me know.

easy stuff
to change the ROM on the EVO is easy you can download ROM Manager from the market and it will give you and option of downloading custom roms for your device, choose one and rom manager will do the rest to include backing up your current rom. Themes are to easy also again on the Market download ADW and you can browse thru many themes and again once you find one you like it will do install it for you. I hope this helps.

Bulldog's Right
ROM Manager is the easiest way to play around with ROMS. (Have to pay up for the Premium version for the good stuff, though.)
I've use Swagged Out Stock and it's good.
~Jason

Rom manager +evo = waste of time root your phone flash amon RA recovery and use it to install roms unless you want to spend all your time trying to get your phone working again then by all means use rom manager and cwm, cwm doesn't wipe properly causing serious issues when you boot into the rom, everything from force closes to stuff just plain not working
We are legion, for we are many
Sent from my Anonymous DeathStar in the depths of GalaXy S2

Per your post if you are s-on(unlocked) and not s-off I'd advise following captain throwbacks guide to downgrade your hboot and attain s-off, if you are s-off search for and locate amon RA recovery in pc36img.zip format place it on SD card and let it search for and update your recovery by pressing volume+ once it finds the PC36IMG.zip , once you have amon rRA find a rom you want to install and download it to you SD card, now boot to amonra and navigate to nandroid(backup/restore) and create a backup selecting the preselcted options plus wimax(this will take some time between 5 and 30 mins)back to the main menu and navigation to the wipe menu, select and wipe each option except battery stats and SD card atleast once (I do each 3x personally just to make sure they are thoroughly wiped) now back out to the main menu and select install from SD card, navigate to your ROM zip wherever you placed it if you downloaded it from the phone itself it will most likely be in the folder named download, select the zip and then install it, let it update may take a few mins to complete depending on the roms size now navigate back to the main menu and reboot you phone you now have a custom rom, to install a theme you will need to find one specific to the rom you choose wipe only cache and dalvik.cache install the theme zip and reboot and you're now themed.
We are legion, for we are many
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thank you thank you thank you so pleased with the answers this helps a ton. just one question what is "s-on/s-off"?

power off phone. Then power on by holding volume down while pushing power button. That takes you to hboot. Hboot will show your status. If you want s-off (and believe me, you do), follow the link provided above.
Follow everything EVIL-KONCEPT has said,....its all true. And stay away from ROMmanager and CWM, unless you wanna spend all your days trying to figure out why the ROMs you flash are all Fd up. CWM doesn't work worth a damn on Evo. Use amonRA.
Welcome, and good luck. Great community, all will help.
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Another great place to look at is
HipKats guide - it has some great information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=138691
sent from my EVO running some version of ICS

So should I start from stock? If so how do I do that? Sorry bout so many questions I am used to my epic and the evo is way different. Also that link to the other thread is not working.

Just click the link in my signature

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Just click the link in my signature
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so i did this and already have a problem. i downloaded the amon ra and it was named PC36IMG.zip already so i put it in the root of the phone and when i booted to bootloader it says "main version is older!" then "update fail" any ideas how to get amon ra on this phone?

if it says main version is older, then it's trying to read a radio image. Do you have 2 PC36Imgs on root of SD?
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no only one pc36img. im trying to unroot atm.

Like everyone else I use AmonRa to flash roms etc. rom manager is good for a noob thats how I started off, but Know clockwork is not that good, all i can say is read, read, read, and when you think u got it read it again, its really not that hard.

lol yeah i know that that is what i been doing for what seems like ever. i have yet to be able to find anything that talks about my issue and i was unable to return the phone to stock it went to the progress bar got to 14% "checking header" and stayed there for an indefinite amount of time. so I am pretty confused and i guess ill try the rom manager route and see how that goes.

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lol yeah i know that that is what i been doing for what seems like ever. i have yet to be able to find anything that talks about my issue and i was unable to return the phone to stock it went to the progress bar got to 14% "checking header" and stayed there for an indefinite amount of time. so I am pretty confused and i guess ill try the rom manager route and see how that goes.
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If you were able to use the HTCDev.com method from that thread to unlock the bootloader, you should be able to easily flash a custom recovery (RA-supersonic). I can walk you through the steps to do that. Once that part is done, flashing a new ROM is easy.
Avoid ROM Manager and CWM recovery.
If you can report back what it says on the HBOOT (Bootloader) screen, it would be helpful, just so we can confirm that you are only UNLOCKED and S-ON, not S-OFF (it makes a slight difference).

well per the OP i have an unlocked evo per the htc website and this thread and the hboot screen says unlocked s-on. my issue is i am unable to flash amon ra recovery because when i do it says main version is older and i named it correctly checked re-checked and re-re-checked a thousand + times. i dont have another pc36img.zip anywere in the root of the sd or even on it for that matter. and i tried to return it to stock and it freezes at checking header. i will try whatever you guys want me to with the exception to rom manager. too many people advise on not useing it for me to risk it. anything else? i take a pic of the hboot screen if you need. and i have a pic attached to the OP of the system settings.

The main thing you wanna get is s-off, or generally you're s-ol... So you did use revolutionary, generated the key, talked to your main OS, and it said you were good? You'll know when you volume down and power on your phone, it'll say revolutionary s-off... It's all downhill from there... Are you saying your phone won't boot at all? Maybe I'm missing something, just trying to help;-)
Edit, I agree vvvvvvvv although sometimes things don't always go so well and even seasoned people as well as noobs get stuck and then ya kinda have to take it step by step... Hopefully he got it figured out but kinda hard to tell from what I read;-)

Do whatever captain_throwback says. He knows all.
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Sorry for all the confusion. Let me try to explain it better. I went to htcdev and did the whole process to unlock the phone. The thread I used to unlock had me put cwm recovery on the phone. That was fine until my wife wanted a diff rom and theme on her phone. So I got told to flash amon-ra recovery. The process for flashing amon-ra was to go to the amon-ra thread and download supersonic, then rename it exactly "PC36IMG.ZIP" so I did that. I checked md5 made sure it wasn't pc36img.zip.zip made sure there wasn't a copy in the root and even in the whole sd card. Now I still get an error when I flash amon-ra. It says "main version is older!" Then "update failed." I have the 2.18 hboot 2.3.5 android. And if there is any other info I can give to get assistance I would appreciate it. O yeah forgot, I also tried to return it to stock via the .exe file and it just freezes on checking header so I can't even start all over from stock :-( I hope that clarefied everything.