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I'm going to buy the GN. Need some advice?

Just got my paycheck so I'm going to buy the GN today! Very excited. The crashing+broken volume rocker on my Sensation was just too frustrating. Before I buy it, though, if I could ask a couple questions I would appreciate it:
1. Have you personally experienced any problems with the GN that have made you unhappy?
2. Do you think it's worth the $400?
3. I'm on T-Mobile US, which version of the GN do I need to buy? Is the one on the Play Store fine?
Thanks!!

No -I- have had no issues.
Yes I do think so.
The play store one is fine!
Welcome!

nodstuff said:
No -I- have had no issues.
Yes I do think so.
The play store one is fine!
Welcome!
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fredryk said:
1. Have you personally experienced any problems with the GN that have made you unhappy?
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No I'm perfectly happy. No issues at all.
2. Do you think it's worth the $400?
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Absolutely. I bought for $540 a few months ago.
3. I'm on T-Mobile US, which version of the GN do I need to buy? Is the one on the Play Store fine?
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The Play Store model is the phone to buy. I wouldn't recommend buying anywhere else if you're in the U.S..

1) I did, it was practically begging to be rooted and have AOKP flashed, so I did.
2) Definitely, look at other comparable phones and this is THE best for the money. Hell, even the SG3 isn't a huge upgrade. Just remember that there is no SD card slot.
3) Yes, I'm also on Tmo and I get 4G/HSPA+ speeds almost everywhere I go.
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fredryk said:
Just got my paycheck so I'm going to buy the GN today! Very excited. The crashing+broken volume rocker on my Sensation was just too frustrating. Before I buy it, though, if I could ask a couple questions I would appreciate it:
1. Have you personally experienced any problems with the GN that have made you unhappy?
2. Do you think it's worth the $400?
3. I'm on T-Mobile US, which version of the GN do I need to buy? Is the one on the Play Store fine?
Thanks!!
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1. Asking this may get you a lot of anecdotal responses. No device is perfect. I will say, however, that compared to devices released around the same time, the battery life is short.
2. Given the specs, the fact that it's unlocked, and that it comes with a US warranty (from Play store), it's a great deal. However, "is it worth it?" is question only you can answer. There's always something new coming out - Galaxy S III comes out next month.
3. Yes. I got mine before Google started selling it through the Play store but now that it's available there, I wouldn't recommend a different source.

1) While I like this phone, there seems to be issues with some of the screens giving off a purple-ish tint at the lower brightness settings. Also at first I thought the battery life was bad, but after a few charge cycles, it's not bad at all.
2) It's a steal at $400 for a brand new high-end phone with warranty. You can similar phones like SGS2 or iphone 4S for around the same price on craigslist, however they are used and you never know...
3) I'm using my google play phone on t-mobile, and the speeds are pretty awesome.

I have the Sprint version. I'm rooted and installed a custom Rom.
I really like:
1. The amount of developer support.
2. That its pure Android with NFC. I use Google wallet and NFC tags for automation.
3. The large (not perfect but good) screen.
4. The phone feels good in my hands.
Don't like:
1. The short battery life. I use my phone a lot because I like it. Purchased 2 extra stock batteries to compensate.
2. The low volume from the external speaker.
You are getting a good price for a phone that should see several updates. Phones with better hardware have been released and will continue to be released. But this phone will be fine (for me) until the next nexus release. I go through phones. I hope this is helpful.
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fredryk said:
Just got my paycheck so I'm going to buy the GN today! Very excited. The crashing+broken volume rocker on my Sensation was just too frustrating. Before I buy it, though, if I could ask a couple questions I would appreciate it:
1. Have you personally experienced any problems with the GN that have made you unhappy?
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I wouldn't really call them "issues" just a few niggles. Wi-Fi range is somewhat weaker than other devices I've used. People have had different experiences with their screens. Some people have perfect and others less than perfect. Some say they have banding or black/purple spots and all sorts of issues. The only thing I've noticed on my phone is when I look at the screen from an angle in the dark, it has a slight blue tint. It doesn't affect the performance of the phone or make the screen hard to use for me. It's just something to note.
2. Do you think it's worth the $400?
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YES, YES AND YES. There aren't enough yeses to this question. Very few phones of this quality you can get brand new, guaranteed updates from Google, a huge developer community and knowing you own your own phone. My contract ended last month and I've been using prepaid since I got my GNex and I love it. Saved money and pretty much the same service as contract.
3. I'm on T-Mobile US, which version of the GN do I need to buy? Is the one on the Play Store fine?
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Yes, I bought mine form the Play Store and use it on T-Mobile's $30 plan. It's GSM unlocked and pentaband so it will work.

Dropped my gnex on concrete and the screen broke dropped the nexus s about a 10 x and it was fine. The screen is fickle
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1. I wish I had bought the GSM version
2. Forgot the question. EDIT: Yep.
3. Wish I had done that, but verizon...
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My white one will be here tomorrow, CANT WAIT!

Can´t answer the 3rd one really but...
1. Out of the box I was very unhappy with the phone. But this was 4.0.1. No GPS, no WiFI, horrendous battery life, data drops and what not.
Having updated the phone and later rooted and started fiddling around with different ROMs and especially Kernels I'm growing more and more fond of it.
Now I know how to make everything work and the ROMs and Kernels are getting more mature. Battery life has increased more than 300% for me compared to out of the box.
I´d say it´s a wonderful phone for people who doesn´t like to go stock, but rather want to change around and personalize their device.
2. I went from: No way!! To: Hell yeah!
EDIT: Spelling.. :S

1. Yes, screen quality sucks (development overweights this issue for me)
2. Yes, its worth $400 bucks

[Q] $349 Galaxy Nexus or wait for new Nexus Phone?

Let's start with what would be my dream phone:
- minimum 4.65 inch screen, preferably not Pentile display, but not a dealbreaker
- 64 GB internal memory (iphone does it, why not android phones?)
- Micro SD slot capable of additional 64 GB (or 128! even better!)
- Tegra 3+ or Exynos 5450 (no, NOT the dual-core 5250, i want the beast quad-core 5450 on the new ARMv15 architecture)
OK story time:
My AT&T upgrade's coming up next month, which means I can FINALLY get rid of the iPhone 4 32GB. Say what you will, but it was a good upgrade coming from a very old Blackberry Curve, and she served me well these past two years, but I've outgrown Apple and its walled garden a year ago.
Here's the thing, I've been disappointed with the recent releases on AT&T, here's why:
1) Samsung Galaxy SIII - no 32 GB version, Touchwiz, snapdragon processor, slow to update
2) HTC One X - no Micro SD card, Sense (although I hear it's great), Beats overrated, same snapdragon processor
3) Samsung Galaxy Note - Y U NO HAVE ICS YET?!... also, i don't need a phablet since i have a Tab 10.1 and the upcoming Nexus 7, so a smaller display would be ideal.
*-- Yes, I'm aware I can root/flash custom ROMS which would deal with the update & custom skin issue, and I do have CM9 on my 10.1, but I'm looking to move to a phone similar to a Nexus, that offers the pure Google experience. --*
On that note, yes, I just sprung for the Nexus 7, and that's made me seriously consider the Galaxy Nexus with its reduced price, pure Google experience, and it updates software way faster than carriers do. The thing is, I'm not a huge fan of some things about the GNex:
Galaxy Nexus Unlocked Negatives (in my opinion):
1) The dated hardware (Texas OMAP processor, which disappointed me even at the press release),
2) smaller HDD (only 16 gb, not fun to downgrade, even if I am coming from Apple),
3) lack of Micro SD (I use Google Music and have about 30 GB of music on it, but I like using the offline feature so I don't constantly have to stream and abuse my data plan, and that requires more space than the GNex is offering).
That $349 price point is just SO intriguing though, and I am an avid user of Google content and purchase regularly through the play store, so I will absolutely be getting an android phone, the question is when.
So thoughts? If you were in a similar situation, would you just spring for the GNex now with that $349 unlocked goodness, or wait for a potential new Nexus phone to be introduced around the holidays? Something's gotta compete with the iPhone 5, right?

Here's my plan. I already use a GNex as a daily driver and I plan on picking up another to do modding/hacking on. Then, when the new Nexus device(s) arrives I am going to sell my daily driver GNex and buy a new one to use. I will keep my "testing" GNex as it will be more than capable a year from now.
But to put it into perspective to your situation, I would just wait if you don't have the luxury of having two phones. Technically, I really can't afford two phones but I have given up drinking, smoking, and sugary drinks to compensate for my "Tech" addiction. Or you could just spring for the GNex now for the lower price point and wait until the new Nexus has a price reduction before moving on. I guess it's all about patience and prioritizing your wants/needs.

I have a GNEX a very early adapter and I paid almost $700.00 so at $349.00 it's a steal. With that said you can always get an International version of the SG SIII and if you don't like touchwiz just root it and install a custom rom. It's very easy to do.

See, there's so many variables.
I love the idea of the GNex, and 4.1 will probably be amazing on it, but if a newer, better phone is expected to come out for the holidays and I can use my upgrade subsidy to get it for about $299, then that would be perfect (no plans on leaving AT&T at the moment, I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and I'll be damned if they take that away from me).
Sure, I could buy it, then sell it later, but do I essentially want to rent the phone for a few months and lose at least $100 in the process?
I could always keep it as a backup phone, perhaps as a testing phone as you mentioned. But is the GNex worth it? If you have a large amount of media as I do, won't your data plan suffer because you'll always have to stream it?
I can see how the GNex would be useful if I ever decided to buy a Nexus Q (God knows why I'd do that now, needs GTV baked into it). Have it as a backup remote perhaps. Hmmm.....

joe767 said:
I have a GNEX a very early adapter and I paid almost $700.00 so at $349.00 it's a steal. With that said you can always get an International version of the SG SIII and if you don't like touchwiz just root it and install a custom rom. It's very easy to do.
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SGSIII International I don't believe works well with AT&T, right? Even if it does, it's extremely expensive ($500 range last I checked). I'm trying to stick to about $350 tops (aka GNex is the most I'd pay for a phone).
Already spoke about rooting & custom ROMs. I'm really feeling the idea of the pure google experience right now, so it's Nexus or bust, I think (pending better arguments from more experienced board members)

Just ordered one for my buddy since the price is awesome.

Here's a Pro/Con list I'm coming up with. Remember, this is me coming off an Apple phone, so a lot of stuff y'all are used to, I'm not.
Pros:
- Would get cheap, using eBay Instant Sale promotion, I'd get $300 for the iPhone (it's pristine, been in an otterbox since unboxing. Even the otterbox is in good condition!)
- Access to all Google content I've purchased, and continue to purchase
- Jelly Bean
- Pure Google Experience I'm currently looking for (a la Nexus 7, which I purchased)
- Much faster updates than if I bought through a carrier
- Turn-by-Turn Nav
- Price for no-contract phone would be roughly the same if I was upgrading to a new phone with AT&T (If I recall correctly, I got my 32 GB iPhone for $299)
- Buying the phone means I still keep my upgrade eligibility for AT&T
- Can always have as a back-up phone, or as a back-up remote for Nexus Q if I ever purchase something like that
- Much larger display than what I'm used to, and the display is still one of the top 3 in the market currently, hands down.
- I can live without a new phone for a while, which means I can wait for some crazy beast phone.
Cons:
- Need to buy a new FM Radio adapter (2005 accord = no aux port)
- Smaller Storage (32GB iphone vs 16GB GNex)
- No Micro SD slot
- Not quad-core (yes, I'm aware of the "dual-core just as good" argument, and I don't care. Blame it on my testicular insecurity, whatever you want lol)
- Could become outdated soon by potentially newer Nexus model or new Samsung/HTC/ASUS phones coming out in the holidays (just 6 months away)
- The no-contract thing doesn't give me any benefit, as I have a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan with no desire to lose it
I'll add more stuff as I think of it, or as people mention in subsequent posts.

Dolfan058 said:
See, there's so many variables.
I love the idea of the GNex, and 4.1 will probably be amazing on it, but if a newer, better phone is expected to come out for the holidays and I can use my upgrade subsidy to get it for about $299, then that would be perfect (no plans on leaving AT&T at the moment, I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and I'll be damned if they take that away from me).
Sure, I could buy it, then sell it later, but do I essentially want to rent the phone for a few months and lose at least $100 in the process?
I could always keep it as a backup phone, perhaps as a testing phone as you mentioned. But is the GNex worth it? If you have a large amount of media as I do, won't your data plan suffer because you'll always have to stream it?
I can see how the GNex would be useful if I ever decided to buy a Nexus Q (God knows why I'd do that now, needs GTV baked into it). Have it as a backup remote perhaps. Hmmm.....
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Variables, exactly. I don't even buy phones on contract anymore so I don't even think about that aspect.
As for media content, using a phone without expandable storage just takes extra preparation, which I don't mind. I switch out playlists and things like that weekly when I'm around WiFi.

live4nyy said:
Variables, exactly. I don't even buy phones on contract anymore so I don't even think about that aspect.
As for media content, using a phone without expandable storage just takes extra preparation, which I don't mind. I switch out playlists and things like that weekly when I'm around WiFi.
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I'm about 90% set on getting the GNex, just want to do some last minute fact checking and really make sure I'm ready to do this.
What changed my mind??
I recently found out about Ebay's Instant Sell promotion. To celebrate the GS3 release, Ebay's buying the iPhone 4 32GB for $300. Mine's in pristine condition due to being in an otterbox for the entirety of its life, I even have the original iPhone 4 box it came in.
I'd still have the upgrade feature for phones that come out next year, and it holds me over till my true superphone comes out. I'm so close to buying it lol, just want to make sure I'm making the right decision haha

Dolfan058 said:
I'm about 90% set on getting the GNex, just want to do some last minute fact checking and really make sure I'm ready to do this.
What changed my mind??
I recently found out about Ebay's Instant Sell promotion. To celebrate the GS3 release, Ebay's buying the iPhone 4 32GB for $300. Mine's in pristine condition due to being in an otterbox for the entirety of its life, I even have the original iPhone 4 box it came in.
I'd still have the upgrade feature for phones that come out next year, and it holds me over till my true superphone comes out. I'm so close to buying it lol, just want to make sure I'm making the right decision haha
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Well, I'm not going to tell you what to do, that's a decision you'll have to make. But I will say this, I was using the HTC One X before the GNex and I'm getting ready to sell the One X so I can have the second GNex, if that tells you anything. Of course, that's me and everyone is different. Good luck in making your decision.

At $399 when I bought it last month, it was a screaming deal. I have absolutely no regrets, I was originally waiting for the GS3 and considered the One S.

Won't I need a SIM card adapter?
Optional questions that don't belong here:
1) any ideas on FM Radio transmitters? (I have an 05 Accord, no AUX input unfortunately).
2) Should I get a case? Dropping phones freaks me out, especially since I have tile in the house
3) Any other accessory recommendations? Micro-USB preferred, as they will then work with the Nexus 7

yup, just get a microsim to sim adapter. i have one for my ATT iPad sim i now use in my thinkpad tablet and my ps vita (sold all of my ipads). here's a link:
http://microsim-shop.com/

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I'm also looking into getting a Nexus, and I have a few questions:
How common is the banding/burn-in problem? (I don't leave static images on the screen for long, but I'm worried about this because a lot of people seem to be complaining about it and saying it happens in only 3 days)
How is the multitouch , as in, does it track your fingers well, and how many fingers max? (I'm asking cause the android phone I'm on now has major issues with multitouch)
Do most 3D games run smooth? (max payne, gta, nova, spiderman, etc...)
What are your personal gripes with the phone?
I really appreciate you answers, sorry if I'm asking too much, I just want to be sure about buying, $350 seems "too good to be true" for a phone this good lol.

I think these questions can best be answered in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
Thanks
FNM

[Q] will there be active development for the S3 for 2 more years?

Here is my issue. When it comes to smartphones, I am a IOS guy from the start. I upgrade every 2 years, selling the old on craigslist which pays for the latest iPhone upgrade.
What I like is that there is active (i won't call it development but rather tweaking) in the jailbreak community for that 2 year period mainly due to the fact that all the apple devices run the same code. We all know that...
Well... frankly the iPhone5 bores me, and I think I may go android. However, some things bother me.
One is the plastic/cheap feel of the S3. Apple seems to have build quality way above and beyond the S3 here. No worries, an aluminum bumper and battery cover solves that issue for me.
More concerning is the development path for any particular android device. It seems like manufacturers stop development and release of new OS's in about a year of release which means 3rd party devs need to take the slack. I have a Asus Transformer tablet and this is exactly what happened... however I have found that dev roms are usually not full featured and buggy, especially when you want a new android build. (like going from ICS to JB for instance)
I do however tend to tweak my phones for about the first 6 months and leave them... my iPhone is still on IOS 5.0.
I'm just concerned about getting the latest code on the android since some newer apps don't work on old android. Just dont know what to do.
Any thoughts?
-J

The S3 is the best selling device Android has ever had. You have nothing to worry about. Since you've come to xda you don't have to be concerned about official updates to the firmware. The development community will be putting stuff out for this device for years to come.
The only device on Android with Apple style update support is a Nexus device. If official firmware updates are your main concern get one of those. But the current nexus is getting old. New one is expected by the end of this year.

An attempt at a fully honest reply to your concerns...
Compared to Apply devices, the S3 _is_ made with a cheaper shell and does "feel" cheaper. Not only is the shell and battery cover made of plastic, its made of super thin and flimsy plastic. If that bothers you now, the concern will only fester over time and you might be better off looking for another phone. HTC phones have a higher shell build quality. While I personally don't like the device overall (and wouldn't seriously suggest it), the take a look at the overall "outside quality" of the HTC OneX.. it just feels like it's built better (but at the expense of other things.)
What's INSIDE the phone is usually of a better quality. Having the removable battery and microSD can be a really big deal. The only two current concerns I have with the North American version of the SGS3 is that Samsung seems to be providing the wrong driver for the LED and the battery life isn't as good as the international version (when comparing the two phones on non-LTE networks.) The former should be correctable with a proper LED lib (or perhaps re-worked kernel functionality) and the latter with more tweaking.
As for updates, the North American phone is likely to be a mixed bag. Samsung usually will support their "flagship" phones (such as the original SGS3) for 2 years. However, it appears they drop support for the variants of those phones earlier. For example, the international SGS2 is better supported than the US t-mobile variant of the same. (The AT&T SGS2 is an oddity as it shares the same processor as the international version, so people port the international firmwares to the AT&T one with ease.) The North American version of the SGS3 (qualcomm S4) is a variant of the actual flagship S3 device. Will they continue to support it? It's hard to say - and adding in the fact that carriers (AT&T, etc) seem to control updates, it's possible that a carrier branded SGS3 will lose support before 2 years elapses.
All that being said, Samsung seems to be better (at least lately) with updating their devices than HTC. Motorola is an unknown right now as they used to really suck, but might get much better with Google now owning them. (It didn't help moto's rep that nearly all their phones in the US were Verizon phones and Verizon is infamous for blocking updates.)
On other point on the updates is that ALL the US variants of the SGS3 are pretty much the same, making any effort to update them more worthwhile.
Finally, you have a final concern about apps not working on older phones. I actually disagree with that statement. Every single app on my current phones will work fine under Gingerbread which is a few years old already. I'd be confident saying that if you buy a phone today that's sure to get jelly bean, you'll be good for apps for at least 3 years.
Take care and good luck
Gary

I don't think you have to worry about apps being incompatible in the next 2 years for the s3. Majority of apps are compatible all the way back to donut. My s2 on gingerbread hasn't ran into this issue either.
I think you will be fine for the next 2 years because of the development with the first galaxy s series alone. But if you want the latest and greatest you might be tempted to get something else next year.

I love my SGS3 but I agreed with the plastic cover being thin and feeling cheap. Samsung just announced that a S4 will be released early next year so I guess a lot of development will go for the newer phone. The micro SD and 4.8" screen did it for me.

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An attempt at a fully honest reply to your concerns...
Compared to Apply devices, the S3 _is_ made with a cheaper shell and does "feel" cheaper. Not only is the shell and battery cover made of plastic, its made of super thin and flimsy plastic. If that bothers you now, the concern will only fester over time and you might be better off looking for another phone. HTC phones have a higher shell build quality. While I personally don't like the device overall (and wouldn't seriously suggest it), the take a look at the overall "outside quality" of the HTC OneX.. it just feels like it's built better (but at the expense of other things.)
I think the whole build quality flimsy plastic thing is way over blown. The same discussion takes place in camera forums regarding magnesium bodies vs composite bodies.
for phones the truth is (at least as I see it) that build quality for higher end phones is all smoke and mirrors everyone puts a case on it anyway and they all have the potential to break if you drop them so plastic or aluminum doesnt matter.
If your worried about durability you put a otterbox on and you cant tell what its make of anyway if you are worried about fasion you put some fancy case on and it still breaks if you drop it.
The S3 plastic back is less likely to scratch than the iphone one and if it does it is replaceable the iphone isnt.
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optimus43 said:
everyone puts a case on it anyway and they all have the potential to break if you drop them so plastic or aluminum doesnt matter.
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No, everyone doesn't. I haven't used any type of case on a phone since I was using an ipaq. Some people prefer using them "naked" and might carry them in some kind of belt clip holster. (I used a thin strip of rubber tape to deal with the iphone4 antenna issue.) Some use a case - some don't.
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The S3 plastic back is less likely to scratch than the iphone one and if it does it is replaceable the iphone isnt.
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I can't speak for the iphone 5 or "3s", but in regards to the original iphone, the 4 and 4S, this statement isn't true. The coating on the back of the S3 is so sensitive that if you sneeze near it you'll have a new scratch.
This is actual experience with the international SGS3 (blue), AT&T SGS3 (blue) and AT&T SGS3 (red) as well as the above mentioned iphone's. (I can also compare to a range of nexus devices, a couple of HTC devices and at least 2 moto android-based devices.)
On the other hand, it IS easy to replace the back cover (assuming you can get a replacement - AT&T doesn't sell them and the various ebay sellers don't seem to have OEM red ones yet. OEM blue ones ship from China the last I checked. I don't have a white phone so can't comment on that.)
I don't want to get into a pissing contest between this phone and that phone. The OP asked I gave a frank and honest response. My own (personal) device that I use most commonly is the international SGS3, but I do own all the mentioned devices (and more.) Is the sgs3 the best device currently? Well, I think it is today (but I don't mind a few scuffs on the back plate of my phone, insist on a replacable battery, don't like being locked into apple, etc.)

I was with the iphone for a long time But then finally jumped over a while ago. Even after looking at the new iphone..there is nothing..nothing at all Apple has done or offered to make me even think about going back.

Perhaps 'everyone' uses a cover is an overstatement but I would say that nearly everyone uses a case is not to far off base.
so far I have had no scratches on my sg3 (although I do have a case on it) I would also suspect that the aluminum will be less scratch resistant than the iphone glass was. Of course we dont know yet but... drag your keys acros the top of a mac book it will definitly scratch.

The Captivate (AT&T Galaxy S1 variant) still has active cyanogenmod development. I think that it's very likely that this will too.

What amazes me is that people actually put the s3 into their pockets without a case... One drop and the screen is toast. Please buy an Otterbox commuter case.... My 18 month old chucks it and not one issue so far. S3 will have a ton of development. Let's hope the S4 does not use a larger screen, except if they get rid of all the buttons and go full screen without any bezel gaps. Going to sell this puppy on amazon and get the S4 when the time arrives.

Sorry please delete me
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cheetablaze said:
What amazes me is that people actually put the s3 into their pockets without a case... One drop and the screen is toast. Please buy an Otterbox commuter case.... My 18 month old chucks it and not one issue so far. S3 will have a ton of development. Let's hope the S4 does not use a larger screen, except if they get rid of all the buttons and go full screen without any bezel gaps. Going to sell this puppy on amazon and get the S4 when the time arrives.
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It's mostly teenagers who think they don't need a case, since at that arrogant age they tend to think that both they and their tech are invincible.
And On-Topic: The S3 is on track to sell 30 million devices, so it'll be seeing support for at least 2 years. My less popular 2.25 year-old Captivate got CM7, CM9, and CM10 updates afterall.

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It's mostly teenagers who think they don't need a case, since at that arrogant age they tend to think that both they and their tech are invincible.
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30, no case. Haven't had one for any phone and haven't needed one. Have dropped a gs2 from 5 feet onto asphalt without a scratch. Cases are for people who are not careful with their devices, or have a mission critical need for their phone. Although really, cases are for people that get suckered in by the salesman who has to meet his accessory quota. Or any other ridiculous generalization you want to make.
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zmore said:
It's mostly teenagers who think they don't need a case, since at that arrogant age they tend to think that both they and their tech are invincible.
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I wish I was a teenager again. At 41, and prefer not to take a thin phone and make it thick with a case. I do use a belt holster, however, to carry it around. (I have too much other stuff in my pockets to put my phone in there.)
Oh, and I'm still arrogant... that has nothing to do with age.

garyd9 said:
I wish I was a teenager again. At 41, and prefer not to take a thin phone and make it thick with a case. I do use a belt holster, however, to carry it around. (I have too much other stuff in my pockets to put my phone in there.)
Oh, and I'm still arrogant... that has nothing to do with age.
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Hah. You guys are outliers! And the kids are still in school right now.

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30, no case. Haven't had one for any phone and haven't needed one. Have dropped a gs2 from 5 feet onto asphalt without a scratch. Cases are for people who are not careful with their devices, or have a mission critical need for their phone. Although really, cases are for people that get suckered in by the salesman who has to meet his accessory quota. Or any other ridiculous generalization you want to make.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Although every phone I have owned I've spent the money and had a Zaag screen protector. No matter how careful you are with the phone, one small item in your pocket and the glass is scratched.
I have 3 cases for my S3, all of which I used for up to an hour and took it off. Especially the OtterBox. I couldn't stand it.
And to the father's who hand their phones out to their young children. Your nuts. I have enough old phones they can play with but there not touching my S3 haha
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miatawnt2b said:
More concerning is the development path for any particular android device. It seems like manufacturers stop development and release of new OS's in about a year of release which means 3rd party devs need to take the slack.
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A further reply on this comment - and concerning the references to apple/iOS. As you said, Apple tends to keep OS updates going for at least a couple years.
However, you didn't mention what level of updates they actually get. A year after I got an iphone4, iOS 5 had a new feature called "siri." For some reason, apple didn't give that to the iphone 4 users. (The jailbreaking community proved that the older phone could easily handle running it.) This year, iOS6 is being pushed to my iphone4. There are SEVERAL "new" features of the OS that aren't appearing on my iphone4 including several related to the maps, navigation, siri, etc, etc.
Essentially, while apple does send out OS updates to a phone for two (or even more) years, they aren't complete updates and really are no better (and in many cases quite a bit worse) than the updates you'll see with an android device. At least Samsung doesn't send out an update called "jellybean" that has jellybean features stripped out of it.
Example? The SGS2 (over a year old now) is getting google's voice search(similar to siri) with the JB update (even if Samsung doesn't push it, there are already CM10 ports available for it), already has the map features that the iphone4 will never get, etc.

g2tegg said:
I couldn't agree with you more. Although every phone I have owned I've spent the money and had a Zaag screen protector. No matter how careful you are with the phone, one small item in your pocket and the glass is scratched.
I have 3 cases for my S3, all of which I used for up to an hour and took it off. Especially the OtterBox. I couldn't stand it.
And to the father's who hand their phones out to their young children. Your nuts. I have enough old phones they can play with but there not touching my S3 haha
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The Rock 'quicksand' cases are the only ones I can tolerate. Add a good screen protector and you have a slim but protected s3.

miatawnt2b said:
Here is my issue. When it comes to smartphones, I am a IOS guy from the start. I upgrade every 2 years, selling the old on craigslist which pays for the latest iPhone upgrade.
What I like is that there is active (i won't call it development but rather tweaking) in the jailbreak community for that 2 year period mainly due to the fact that all the apple devices run the same code. We all know that...
Well... frankly the iPhone5 bores me, and I think I may go android. However, some things bother me.
One is the plastic/cheap feel of the S3. Apple seems to have build quality way above and beyond the S3 here. No worries, an aluminum bumper and battery cover solves that issue for me.
More concerning is the development path for any particular android device. It seems like manufacturers stop development and release of new OS's in about a year of release which means 3rd party devs need to take the slack. I have a Asus Transformer tablet and this is exactly what happened... however I have found that dev roms are usually not full featured and buggy, especially when you want a new android build. (like going from ICS to JB for instance)
I do however tend to tweak my phones for about the first 6 months and leave them... my iPhone is still on IOS 5.0.
I'm just concerned about getting the latest code on the android since some newer apps don't work on old android. Just dont know what to do.
Any thoughts?
-J
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For a quick answer to your question go check out the threads for the sgs1 (I9000). Pawitp is an awesome dev and that device has a great cm10 ROM.
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Get GNex or ...

I ended up smashing my Samsung Galaxy at the gym two days ago. I bought it in May 2011 and it has been such a sweet device. Instead of getting the phone repaired I thought I may as well just buy a new one. I have been keeping a close eye on the speculation for the conference next week and I've been doing some research on Androids offerings. Please keep in mind I am a university student and whilst I am prepared to spend quite a bit on a new unlocked, device, $500 is more-or-less my limit. 16gb of storage is fine for me too. I have an iPod touch for my music. (keep in mind i'm in Australia).
Option 1: Nexus 4. If the rumoured specs on the LG Nexus are true, and the price is below $500 this would be my first preference.
Option 2: Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Typically because I love the true google experience. I had CM10 and Slim Bean ROMs on my SGS1 before it broke. This is more-or-less $330 online for the 16gb version. Big advantage of having quick, direct Android OS updates too.
Option 3: Samsung Galaxy S3. This is a monster phone, the only thing that concerns me is the size of the phone, especially once a protective cover has been added to it. I can be a little bit reckless and would prefer to keep a cover on it. The specs on this are insane, however the price is around $470 (for 32gb) and I am very hesitant to root the phone this time round. I am also not the biggest fan of touchwiz.
I have also kept in mind that the prices of SGS3 and the GNex are likely to drop after the new phones are unveiled. I am really looking for experiences that people have with these two phones as well. Complaints and recommendations would be great!
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There are thousands of threads like this. Please do a search. You will get your answer definitely!

Definitely wait it out til next week.
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I would wait a week if you can. If the nexus 4 is a dud then at least the galaxy Nexus will be cheaper.
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The LG Nexus 4, or whatever it will be called will undoubtedly be better than the GNex. Wait a week.
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I moved from galaxy S to Gnex in Aug and quite happy with the experience(stability n performance)... will probably never buy anything other than the nexus phone.
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Re: option 3 - The SGS3 is no bigger physically than the Nexus (either LG or Samsung) so your point about it being too big is unfounded.
I'd also wait and see what the LGN4 is like, even though I am not a fan of LGs quality control (worse than Samsung TBH).

tameracingdriver said:
Re: option 3 - The SGS3 is no bigger physically than the Nexus (either LG or Samsung) so your point about it being too big is unfounded.
I'd also wait and see what the LGN4 is like, even though I am not a fan of LGs quality control (worse than Samsung TBH).
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I bought my Gnex very recently, was hesitating with SGS3 and the 2 things that made me chose Gnex over SGS3 are :
- price (well i sometimes act rational)
- that awful glossy plastic of SGS3
I'll definitively have a look at LGN4 but if I go on being reasonable, I'll keep my Gnex and buy a Nexus tab instead...

I would get the galaxy nexus again. I personally love this phone so much and don't care that its getting out dated. I see myself using it for at least the next year (just got it a month ago from the play store). But that being said I would hold out if possible as the price may drop when the new nexus hits.
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tameracingdriver said:
Re: option 3 - The SGS3 is no bigger physically than the Nexus (either LG or Samsung) so your point about it being too big is unfounded.
I'd also wait and see what the LGN4 is like, even though I am not a fan of LGs quality control (worse than Samsung TBH).
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I`m also verry sattisfied with the Gnex but i will have a look at the Google LG!

Get the Note 2.. awesome battery life and great screen

get the gnex

Wait for the LG Nexus! Its pretty much confirmed. Just gotta wait for it to be released to see pricing etc.

go for gnexus i have nexus s before now is all more smooth and cool screen

Thanks all for your replies.
I will wait til next Monday to see what Android bring out.
EDIT: If the LG Nexus is revealed as expected with all the rumoured specs, should I be worried that the battery is not replaceable? I've seen so many people with iPhone battery issues but then again this isn't Apple.

I don't think you will have much issues with your battery. I have never had any issues with my battery's on any of my phones (including gnex, dinc, and gs3). The only thing I would be worried about with the battery is if the phone locks up you can't pull the battery, but I am pretty sure you can hard reset it with volume + power.

BlueCuda said:
I don't think you will have much issues with your battery. I have never had any issues with my battery's on any of my phones (including gnex, dinc, and gs3). The only thing I would be worried about with the battery is if the phone locks up you can't pull the battery, but I am pretty sure you can hard reset it with volume + power.
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Hmm thanks. Hopefully the phone is reasonably priced to buy unlocked!

I'm planning on getting the GNex very soon. I could care less about outdated hardware, as I've spent the last two years on a KIN device (A weird pre-Windows-Phone Windows Phone) and an LG EnV3. The GNex has the added benefit of always getting immediate OTA updates, and when the time comes (And it will come... ) to start playing, I know I have a fabulous development community to immerse myself in and hopefully contribute to. The user experience ALWAYS outweighs an edge in hardware.
Also, price is a huge deal for me, as I'm on a student budget. I can't run around and drop $200-300 on some shiny new toy that came out, when I drop similar moneys on a monthly basis to get to school and back. So yes, the fact that I can get a LTE Galaxy Nexus for $30 off of Amazon and continue my Verizon contract is a fairly big selling point for me.
That being said, if Verizon were to get the new Nexus device and it happened to be reasonably cheap (Say, $100 or below) then I would likely shell out for that. However, those chances are slim to none, so I reckon I'm safe.
Hope this helps.

Purpeltendire said:
I'm planning on getting the GNex very soon. I could care less about outdated hardware, as I've spent the last two years on a KIN device (A weird pre-Windows-Phone Windows Phone) and an LG EnV3. The GNex has the added benefit of always getting immediate OTA updates, and when the time comes (And it will come... ) to start playing, I know I have a fabulous development community to immerse myself in and hopefully contribute to. The user experience ALWAYS outweighs an edge in hardware.
Also, price is a huge deal for me, as I'm on a student budget. I can't run around and drop $200-300 on some shiny new toy that came out, when I drop similar moneys on a monthly basis to get to school and back. So yes, the fact that I can get a LTE Galaxy Nexus for $30 off of Amazon and continue my Verizon contract is a fairly big selling point for me.
That being said, if Verizon were to get the new Nexus device and it happened to be reasonably cheap (Say, $100 or below) then I would likely shell out for that. However, those chances are slim to none, so I reckon I'm safe.
Hope this helps.
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I'm in Australia so it works a bit different here. I'm also on a student budget but I work weekly and earn a reasonable income to purchase a ~$400 device which is just over a weeks pay for me atm.

get the Galaxy Nexus. The LG Nexus 4 will look similiar to it. The blacks on Galaxy Nexus' super AMOLED HD screen are stunning.
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Thinking About Replacing HTC Rezound with VZW Galaxy Nexus

I've had my Rezound for a year and I've already had it replaced once, my new one is a refurb and the battery gets pretty damn hot at times. This doesn't really bother me that much anymore but I'm just getting tired of the phone since AOSP development is pretty much in a stand-still for ICS and there aren't any bootable jellybean roms yet. Since I've had my Nexus 7 for about 2 months I love the wide availability of ROMs and kernels, not to mention Jellybean is awesome. I've been contemplating getting a G-Nex for a while and now that I have a job and I've found a bunch on Ebay for about $150-$250 I'm strongly considering getting one. It wouldn't be my permanent phone for the next 2 years, just something to hold me off until there's another phone with amazing specs that I'd want to pay full price for or sign another 2 year contract.
The only thing that's been holding me back is I know there's a fair amount of problems with the screen and I've always heard that the Verizon version (which I would be getting) has radio problems, but then again I've heard that they were fixed a while ago.
I'd like to get some opinions from current VZW Nexus owners before I take the plunge and get one.

The only time I ever had radio issues was before JB was officially released and I was running a JB ROM w/ ICS radios. Now that we have the VZW JB radios, I haven't experienced any issues. As far as AOSP on VZW goes, I don't think there is a better choice available atm than the Gnex.

Thanks for the info. Even before I got the Rezound I was debating on whether or not to get the G-Nex but just couldn't wait anymore and decided to get the Rezound since insiders were saying it was the better phone and all that jazz. After having it for a year things about it just annoy me (feedback from the radios while playing music, laggy typing in landscape mode, etc...). The one main thing that I didn't like about the G-Nex was that it didn't have an sdcard slot (I have 48 GB total in my Rezound) but 32 GB should be fine for me since the majority of my music will go on the phone and whatever else will probably just go on Google Music.

brando56894 said:
Thanks for the info. Even before I got the Rezound I was debating on whether or not to get the G-Nex but just couldn't wait anymore and decided to get the Rezound since insiders were saying it was the better phone and all that jazz. After having it for a year things about it just annoy me (feedback from the radios while playing music, laggy typing in landscape mode, etc...). The one main thing that I didn't like about the G-Nex was that it didn't have an sdcard slot (I have 48 GB total in my Rezound) but 32 GB should be fine for me since the majority of my music will go on the phone and whatever else will probably just go on Google Music.
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I know that feel, I am a music hoarder. I may be the only person here who for years has wished for a TB of storage on a mobile device.

What I'd say is this - there's very very few Verizon phones that don't have some sort of frustrating widespread issue or problem. Sure, the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon has its quirks, but I'd there anything better out there on vzw, especially at the price? I'd say not.
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I also have the VZN Gnex, and I'm loving it. Even more so with the wide variety of stable JB ROMs available. Never had radio problems, never a dropped call, never a complete loss of signal (granted I live in the SF Bay Area). Almost always with an LTE signal too.
That being said, I know you mentioned the $150 to $250 range. Chances are, the the lower end priced ones have a catch to them. I bought one on eBay for $210, and boy was I in for a surprise. The housing had a gaping gap between it and the screen. Then the sim slot was chipped, the housing area around the battery terminals was cracked OFF, and the battery cover itself doesn't even clip onto the housing.
Moral of the story: stick with sellers with good feedback and comprehensive gallery pictures. The guy I purchased from had 4 feedback at the time, and that caused for a big problem in the end. Luckily I was covered by Buyer Protection, so I got a full refund in the end.
As of now, I am still using a VZN Gnex from eBay. Loving every bit of the AOSP experience.

I just got a Gnex as a replacement for a TBolt for free and I couldn't be happier. It's not the latest and greatest but seeing as how I got it without burning an upgrade it will definitely take me well into next year until some new hotness comes out. Development was so slow for the TBolt when I got the Gnex in the mail I went into to ROM shock. It's a nice phone for sure...
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