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Okay here's the deal, I just bought myself an Xperia Play r800a locked to Telstra (Australia) and after using an unlocked Galaxy ACE for over a year switching to the locked bootloader on the play is extremely restricting. Now I've read about the whole testpoint unlock and everything, I've also looked at the official unlock although at the same time I learnt that this does not work for the r800a so what I'm wondering is will a carrier unlock allow for a bootloader unlock on the phone or...?
I did purchase a sim unlock code although I won't have this for another week or so and I still have time to cancel the order so I really need to know if I need a testpoint unlock or will carrier unlock fix this? Please answer and If a TP unlock is required is there a free method? Or can anyone recommend a good unlocker for me please?
Thanks!
I have a r800a and the only way the bootloader can be unlocked is via testpoint method, which unlocks sim also.
Its a paid service, cost about as much as a simunlock
I used omnius to unlock mine. Took about 5 minutes
swebosdev said:
I have a r800a and the only way the bootloader can be unlocked is via testpoint method, which unlocks sim also.
Its a paid service, cost about as much as a simunlock
I used omnius to unlock mine. Took about 5 minutes
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Okay cool thanks, and this just involves them controlling the computer and me connecting test points right?
No with the above mentioned company you do it yourself using thier tools and instructions
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yea... u can unlock it using an unlock code provided from your company
nogggin1 said:
Okay cool thanks, and this just involves them controlling the computer and me connecting test points right?
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Contact Jinx13 on the forum. Remote controls and its fast.
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Okay I contacted Jinx13 and I was wondering, assuming I use a sim unlock it is still possible to use the TP unlock for the bootloader in the future isn't it (I know it is a waste of money for both as the TP unlock does unlock the sim although I'm not confident with the testpoint...)
alejandrissimo can unlock every phone:0
very fast and works very good
swebosdev said:
No with the above mentioned company you do it yourself using thier tools and instructions
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I just want to make sure of this before I purchase credits with them,
Mine is a R800A bootloader unlock allowed :no
with rogers in canada, When I look at the Omnius site it only describes them as R800.
supporting msm7x30
When I look at sony specs it describes R800A as msm8 platform .
I'm rooted and running CWM on 2.3.4
I want my bootloader unlocked don't care if the sim happens at the same time , and would prefer to retain all data and drm keys
Can this be unlocked by Omnius or do I need alejandrissimo to do this for me?
imprezif said:
I just want to make sure of this before I purchase credits with them,
Mine is a R800A bootloader unlock allowed :no
with rogers in canada, When I look at the Omnius site it only describes them as R800.
supporting msm7x30
When I look at sony specs it describes R800A as msm8 platform .
I'm rooted and running CWM on 2.3.4
I want my bootloader unlocked don't care if the sim happens at the same time , and would prefer to retain all data and drm keys
Can this be unlocked by Omnius or do I need alejandrissimo to do this for me?
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It is possible to use Omnius to unlock your phone. I have the same model and used their service to unlock my bootloader via TestPoint.
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It is possible to use Omnius to unlock your phone. I have the same model and used their service to unlock my bootloader via TestPoint.
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While I have the attention of someone with experience in the test point method, maybe you can clarify somethings , I have done quite a bit of research into this and there are no good pictures or descriptions for the testpoint procedure with omnius method, I have found pics of the home made set of points used with the S1tools method (the safety pin and wire) where they mention wraping the wire around the outer shield of the USB cable as ground, then joining testpoint to the negative pole for the battery.
Omnius as far as I've been able to gather just says to use the metal sim card shield as ground. Not very descriptive on there part.
Just hoping you could give me a heads up to the actual process, so I'm properly prepared . Thanks
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Guess I lost your attention, it's ok though, I found a really good description (on another site) sacrilege I know.
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imprezif said:
Guess I lost your attention, it's ok though, I found a really good description (on another site) sacrilege I know.
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Haha, I had not checked the forum in a while. Did you get to unlock your bootloader?
I used a paperclip for testpoint. If you still need help, maybe I can take some pictures later today... or maybe I find the tutorial that I followed when I unlocked mine :silly:
Yeah just finished a minute ago. Just need to start flashing.
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Need To bootloader unlock sony xperia play r800a
Hello guys ive been trying to find a method on the internet to unlock my sony xperia play r800a locked to telcel mexico, tried to contact jinx13 and alejandrissimo but got no answer from either, can someone help me out here? Help would really be appreciated
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mista_weezy said:
Hello guys ive been trying to find a method on the internet to unlock my sony xperia play r800a locked to telcel mexico, tried to contact jinx13 and alejandrissimo but got no answer from either, can someone help me out here? Help would really be appreciated
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i can unlock your device .. contact me gmail [email protected]
HI guys,
I got an Xperia Arc S that was sim locked, so I contacted orange support and they gave me the code for unlocking, but when I entered the code it said "Could not unlock network", then I checked and the phone was hard locked..
I didn't enter any codes before orange gave me this one, and I bought it new, still its hard locked..
Is there any way that I can somehow undo the hard lock, so I can enter the unlock code??
Also does unlocking bootloader removes sim lock or hard lock??
Thx in advance
P.S.
It's 12W19 so the SETool doesn't work
unlocking bootloader DOESN'T removes sim lock or hard lock.
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unlocking bootloader DOESN'T removes sim lock or hard lock.
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OK, but can hard lock somehow be removed or something so I can enter the code?
Bump.
Have the same problem with a BRAND NEW Sony Ericsson MK16a Xperia Pro from Fido in Canada.
I had earlier attempted a testpoint and it failed (only then did I find out about the post-12W14 ones not working with testpoint). Mine is 12W21.
I bought an unlock code, but it kept failing. I checked the unlock attempts counter in the hidden menu, and it showed 10 attempts, and that number decreased to 7 (I tried 3 times).
Brought the phone to the shop where I bought the code. They claim my phone is hardlocked!
Tried buying the code from another provider. Code is exactly the same as the one that didn't work.
Any idea what to do?
machoman1337 said:
Have the same problem with a BRAND NEW Sony Ericsson MK16a Xperia Pro from Fido in Canada.
Any idea what to do?
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Was it supposed to be unlocked in the first place? I'd just take it back to the place where I bought it.
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Was it supposed to be unlocked in the first place? I'd just take it back to the place where I bought it.
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What do you mean by "supposed to be unlocked"? It was locked to begin with and I assumed I could just buy a code and unlock it like any other phone.
Before trying to use a bought code, I had tried a testpoint unlock which did not work due to this being a new security model.
Unfortunately I can't take it back to Fido because I'm past their 15 day return policy.
There is a Youtube video of an identical problem to mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aCxH2e47gY
I just want to verify if the new security MCUs are blocking the ability to use network unlock codes.
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What do you mean by "supposed to be unlocked"? It was locked to begin with and I assumed I could just buy a code and unlock it like any other phone.
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I don't really know how phones are being sold in Canada, but here in Finland you can just go and buy an unlocked phone. If it then turns out to be locked, of course they will have to unlock it for you.
Or, you can go and buy a phone with a subscription, in which case it may be locked to the carrier in question. YOYO if you switch carriers and still want to use the same phone.
I'm having the same problem with a Fido Xperia U, had 10 attempts initially, now down to 4 after going through an ebay seller mister unlock and now cellunlocker.net, both provided me the same unlock code but it doesn't seems to work.
Mine's a brand new phone, everything stock, I even tried to reflash the firmware with the Sony PC Companion even though I had the latest firmware already.
Same as this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lCoGhc6BCE
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All right, that makes at least 4 confirmed cases of new 2012 Fido Xperias not being unlockable with purchased codes. Let's bring this up with Fido and Sony and see what can be done.
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machoman1337:
You have this unlock xperia pro things solved? I have exactly same problem. Purchased 2 codes from 2 suppliers. Codes are identical and not working. Someone is advertising software unlock at fastgsm.com
minghe said:
machoman1337:
You have this unlock xperia pro things solved? I have exactly same problem. Purchased 2 codes from 2 suppliers. Codes are identical and not working. Someone is advertising software unlock at fastgsm.com
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wow, this really is serious eh... I managed to sell that xperia in the end (locked). F*** Sony honestly.
if someone finds a solution please let me know.
I whiling to pay up to 30 CAD to unlock my phone.
I've just recently moved to xperia play and this whole change is confusing. There are new things to take note of, namely bootloader unlocking and fastboot.
I wanna ask if I could unlock my bootloader. I'm on 3.0.A.., and my Play is gsm, sold in singapore. There is no "root test" in service configuration.
First, welcome to the Xperia PLAY section. Second, if you do a search you will find countless threads in the PLAY section that detail what is required to unlock your bootloader and how. Mine was unlocked last summer but done in a way that is no longer available. Look up someone names (someone correct me if I get the spelling wrong) alejandrissimo. He will unlock your phone for $25 (dont know what that comes to in your countries currency) and by unlock I mean unlock it so that you have an unlocked bootloader and an unlocked sim, so you can use the phone with other carriers sim cards. The reason for the fee is not because he makes money off it, its because the software used to unlock bootloaders that alejandrissimo uses charges a fee of $25 to unlock aspects of the softwares use per each time. So he is not making any money off it but simply using it to unlock your phone and open it up to a new world of modding.
If you have more questions just a friendly reminder to do some searching in the Xperia PLAY section here first. You should find all the answers you need. Good luck and welcome to the XDA Xperia PLAY
Phone was working perfect, and then all of a sudden I get the message "SIM network unlock PIN" when I switch it on. I bought the phone in a sealed box and was unlocked. When I boot using Vol-Down+Vol-Up+Power the phone tells me "carrier info - None" and "Lock State - Locked".
Needless to say, trying to contact Samsung is proving difficult, anybody here got any suggestions?
Doesn't Lock State refer to boot loader?
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Did you installed any new ROM? Or update?
i think that except the GNex purchased from Google Play, the others have sim lock with the carriers.
So maybe you bought it sim unlocked, but it lock again with any update or rom change...
Anyways, you can unlock it by using the ****Docomo app, you can find it in this forum.
good luck!
That is a sign that the phone was locked by default, and the store from where you bought it unlocked the phone using an unlock PIN code. You could contact Samsung but I'm not sure if they will even try to help you, I would definitely recommend contacting the store from where you bought it and asking for the unlock PIN code. They must provide it to you, as they used the code to unlock the phone from the network it was locked on in order to send it to you (because you bought it as "unlocked").
I know this because the phones sold from the biggest online store from Romania had the same problem, and the store had to provide all customers with the unlock PINs in order to get their phones back working.
Good luck and keep us updated to see how you figured it out.
is there a way to install a different rom like from another country and have bootloader unlock through flashing?? right now im using ftf c6506 firmware unbranded us .423
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is there a way to install a different rom like from another country and have bootloader unlock through flashing?? right now im using ftf c6506 firmware unbranded us .423
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This should go in the Q & A section, not developement.
I have a locked bootloader c6506 as well, currently there is no way around the locked bootloader if you aren't allowed to unlock it through the official way.
Bootloader unlock allowed no solved. Its locked by your carrier. You have to call your carrier and talk to them and push hard to get what you want. Or call Sony. carrier lock is the problem here. The bootloader is locked by the carrier. not Sony. After its carrier unlocked if u cant unlock the bootloader then you have to take it to a sony technician to get your bootloader unlocked Hit thanks if I helped in any way and pls check forums for my other posts and projects thanks again
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Bootloader unlock allowed no solved. Its locked by your carrier. You have to call your carrier and talk to them and push hard to get what you want. Or call Sony. carrier lock is the problem here. The bootloader is locked by the carrier. not Sony. After its carrier unlocked if u cant unlock the bootloader then you have to take it to a sony technician to get your bootloader unlocked Hit thanks if I helped in any way and pls check forums for my other posts and projects thanks again
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Wait wait wait
Can you clarify exactly how you went about this? You call Bell Tech Support and they unlocked it? What do you mean "if you can't unlock the bootloader, take it to Sony". Were you able to unlock or no? Where do I find a Sony technician?
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I called bell and they said they could carrier unlock my phone for 75$ charged to my bill. this should unlock bootloader if not find an asain area with cell phone services they should be able to help and r licensed technicians as well.
Anybody with rogers try this?
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dragonmhawk said:
I called bell and they said they could carrier unlock my phone for 75$ charged to my bill. this should unlock bootloader if not find an asain area with cell phone services they should be able to help and r licensed technicians as well.
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Carrier unlock IS NOT bootloader unlock. The ONLY way at the moment to get a guaranteed BL unlockable device, is to get it DIRECTLY from Sony Store (USA). I contacted the few Sony Stores in Canada (GTA area) and many of the people I talked to didn't even know what the BL is so it's not reliable. I got mine off ebay and got the seller to check before I bought it. Only the C6506 variants direct from the Sony Store are likely to have unlockable BL. No technician (unless they work for Sony) will be able to unlock the bootloader.
Also, $75 is WAAAY to much for carrier/SIM unlock. You can probably find it for $20-$40 from a cell unlock website. Cheaper than that if you're lucky.
bell was going to unlock my phone and send me a code to unlock the bootloader. so there you go. I talked to them and figured it out. its the carrier who locked the bootloader not sony
dragonmhawk said:
bell was going to unlock my phone and send me a code to unlock the bootloader. so there you go. I talked to them and figured it out. its the carrier who locked the bootloader not sony
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That doesn't sound right. If it was that easy to unlock the BL more people would do it, and it would be more known in the community. And I'm pretty sure you can't unlock the BL with just a code. It's an incredibly more complex procedure than that. See http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions. It sounds like they are misleading you to believe it will unlock the bootloader, rather than just SIM unlock. Of course it is the carrier who locks the bootloader, that's why I said the only way to get an unlockable ZL is straight from Sony, who has no carrier branding.
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Bootloader unlock allowed no solved. Its locked by your carrier. You have to call your carrier and talk to them and push hard to get what you want. Or call Sony. carrier lock is the problem here. The bootloader is locked by the carrier. not Sony. After its carrier unlocked if u cant unlock the bootloader then you have to take it to a sony technician to get your bootloader unlocked Hit thanks if I helped in any way and pls check forums for my other posts and projects thanks again
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I think you're confusing people... the OP is asking for BOOTLOADER unlock, not a carrier unlock, calling Bell (Or any other carrier for that matter) will NEVER solve the problem, it's not the carriers that lock the bootloader, it's SONY. And calling them wont help either, unless it's a developer phone purchased directly through Sony, you won't be able to unlock.
I'm sure with time, some group of diligent Devs will crack the bootloader problem the same way that Revolutionary.IO cracks through S-Off for HTC's
In the interim, you're out of luck.
This is somewhat depressing. Gods, how I miss Cyanogenmod on my S3. I find it very difficult to believe that there is no solution for this. Sure, it hasn't yet been developed, but there is always a way.
Just be patient folks. Something will pop up sooner or later.
I hope.
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Of course it is the carrier who locks the bootloader, that's why I said the only way to get an unlockable ZL is straight from Sony, who has no carrier branding.
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Almost, it's not the carrier that locks it, or even the carrier that requests it be locked, it's Sony locking it before sending it. Unlocking the bootloader is a DEVELOPMENT option, not a CONSUMER option, anything that is going to the hands of a consumer gets locked, ie. ALL CARRIER phones.
Unlocking the bootloader mean you can write to the system partitions without using EXPLOITS to gain root access (Which is what we're doing now)
It's the fastest way for a consumer to brick their phone, which is why they all leave the factory locked, unless you're buying directly from them, at which point, they assume you aren't a consumer, and you may then unlock your bootloader by use of http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ and FastBoot in the Android Dev Kit.
Not to beat a dead horse or get into a he said she said scenario, But let me explain how it all works to the best of my ability.
First do not call any carrier and think they will understand what it means to unlock a bootloader, for the most part they are not aware of the bootloader. this is not covered in they're training.
Now Sony locks the bootloaders for carriers, this is a request from the carriers. Sony could care less if it's locked or not. The carriers care, why do they care you may ask. well if the phones they sold had unlocked bootloaders than you could more easily sim unlock you phone and move on. on top off that the ability to brick your phone increases 10 fold. now how many users would mess up their phone and just return it and lie to get a new phone. now the carrier sends it back to Sony under warranty and Sony does not honor the warranty as they know it was tampered with.
Sony is pretty good at supporting Dev's and even has an aosp 4.3 version for user's to try.
last thing i want to say is don't hold your breath on a hack to un lock a locked down bootloader. our batteries are not removable and this makes the processes harder. I bought my Xperia S the week it was launched and a solution for that phone never came. well at least not one I could confirm works. See when the xperia s was released it's was Sony's first phone they made without Ericson. from my understanding this was part of the reason why it got harder. we need access to the SE s1 server and last I checked it was offline fopr over a year, came online for a week and a few users were able to pay 60 us to have there unlockable bootloaders unlocked. as Sony devs could do it with the S1 server and apologize to SE move on.
I'm not sure if this will help or not but do a Google search on how unlocking phones started and read how it has evolved. a good place to start is to search for se s1 server.
hope this helps.
I will explain again my convo i had with bell about unlocking my phone and bootloader. they even asked me do i understand i will lose warrenty if i unlock my bootloader. i said yes they were gonna send me the code to unlock the bootloader. but i couldnt cause i didnt have the phone for 90 days. it can only be done through ur carrier cause they send u the bootloader unlock code u need to unlock it. unlocking the phone they do through the imei. It costs 75$ extra added onto ur phone bill though. but for the price of one gaurenteed way to unlock it its worth it. they said they had to contact sony too in the convo i had with the bell guy. it was a supervisor i talked to and understood exactly what i wanted done. he knew what i was talking about as well. so its possible. just hasn't been confrimed yet. and heres a huge hint. someones working on a hack for this. eta idk. im gonna be one of the testers for this hack/exploit. i cant say much else. top secret of course.
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I will explain again my convo i had with bell about unlocking my phone and bootloader. they even asked me do i understand i will lose warrenty if i unlock my bootloader. i said yes they were gonna send me the code to unlock the bootloader. but i couldnt cause i didnt have the phone for 90 days. it can only be done through ur carrier cause they send u the bootloader unlock code u need to unlock it. unlocking the phone they do through the imei. It costs 75$ extra added onto ur phone bill though. but for the price of one gaurenteed way to unlock it its worth it. they said they had to contact sony too in the convo i had with the bell guy. it was a supervisor i talked to and understood exactly what i wanted done. he knew what i was talking about as well. so its possible. just hasn't been confrimed yet. and heres a huge hint. someones working on a hack for this. eta idk. im gonna be one of the testers for this hack/exploit. i cant say much else. top secret of course.
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Did you get the code? Are you now able to install a custom kernel? If not, then this is completely irrelevant. If so, you've saved a lot of people a pretty decent headache.
We need you to confirm this as $75 is a steep fee for something nobody is even sure is legit. Sure, you say it is, and I'm not disputing you, but I need evidence before I give Bell free money. I need to be 100% sure.
If you can install Cyanogenmod, that's all I want.
[Also, I saw in your signature you're being screwed by Rogers. High-five, me too!]
well i still have to wait a bit. hasnt been 90 days since i got my first xperia zl. first one i bricked second one fell down the stairs on my third one now. 90 days to wait for my new one but im gonna try and see if i can get the code and use it on mine if it works yay will let u guys know for sure.
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well i still have to wait a bit. hasnt been 90 days since i got my first xperia zl. first one i bricked second one fell down the stairs on my third one now. 90 days to wait for my new one but im gonna try and see if i can get the code and use it on mine if it works yay will let u guys know for sure.
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100% guaranteed they're talking about SIM unlock. Sorry. 'Unlocking the bootloader' is not something you can do with a code provided by a carrier, and a 90 day wait is *precisely* Rogers' policy for SIM unlocks. They are going to give you a SIM unlock code and charge you a lot of money for it. You could get it now, for $8, from any one of a bunch of unlock sellers.
I will explain one last time for those who dont have the time to understand. I called bell myself. Have any of u even tried calling ur carrier? Probably not. This works. I called bell i asked my phone to be fully "unlocked" this includes the bootloader. They said they could unlock the carrier onlt but i would have to wait for my bootloader unlock code to be sent to me by someone else. Only one else that could be is sony. So there. Anyone else not gonna actually try calling their carrier? I even talked to sony they said only they can send the bootloader unlock code but to do that i have to have my carrier unlock my phone fully for me and have my carrier contact sony to send me my bootloader unlock code. I havent had my phone long enough to do this but it works clearly. Sony confirmed it to me over the phone. One of the higher ups. Asked for a supervisor and i got one of their devs on. So anyone else want keep trolling this thread? I only speak the truth. Those who have doubt in life will fail. Have no doubt or fear and you will always succeed
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I will explain one last time for those who dont have the time to understand. I called bell myself. Have any of u even tried calling ur carrier? Probably not. This works. I called bell i asked my phone to be fully "unlocked" this includes the bootloader. They said they could unlock the carrier onlt but i would have to wait for my bootloader unlock code to be sent to me by someone else. Only one else that could be is sony. So there. Anyone else not gonna actually try calling their carrier? I even talked to sony they said only they can send the bootloader unlock code but to do that i have to have my carrier unlock my phone fully for me and have my carrier contact sony to send me my bootloader unlock code. I havent had my phone long enough to do this but it works clearly. Sony confirmed it to me over the phone. One of the higher ups. Asked for a supervisor and i got one of their devs on. So anyone else want keep trolling this thread? I only speak the truth. Those who have doubt in life will fail. Have no doubt or fear and you will always succeed
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Weird I contacted Sony myself also and I was told by them that if it says no for bootloader they can't unlock the bootloader. Seems to be some mis information but it also depends on who you talk to. We need to find a alternate way to unlock
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U have to be " persistant" or u wont get anywhere ask for a supervisor don't give up. one guy knew exactly what i was talking about.