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[Q] Memory management

Hi Arc Users,
Do you guys encounter low memory after long period of usage? It seems like the memory does not free up after using the phone for a long time. I mainly use the phone for FB, Camera and messaging.
When the phone hits like 50+MB ram or so it starts to slow down and if it goes lower than 40MB my home screen starts to lag and the app icons take a few secs to load every time i return to home screen. I'll usually reboot the phone but its quite a pain considering the boot timing for my phone is rather long, like close to 1 min.
What are the possible solutions? I've heard that advanced task killers are unnecessary for Gingerbread. If thats the case, how do I free up more memory or have better memory management for the Arc?
Am a first time android user, appreciate any advice from you guys
Thanks!

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Root is the solution. Delete apps and services which you do not use.
I haven't any problem either when free ram goes down to 30MB and i don't use a taskiller.

Just what are you doing when you run out of ram? Never did I run out of ram yet. Running ram hungry games will free up more what is needed as I experienced. When I return to homescreen, it takes a while (around 2 secs) because it will free up ram from the game, then load the homescreen launcher from start/scratch.

Same here but my Arc works fine, even with 30-40MB RAM, so it isn't a real problem.
But it would be nice from SE to make 400-450MB of the 512MB RAM available for the user.
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Flo95 said:
But it would be nice from SE to make 400-450MB of the 512MB RAM available for the user.
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What? That is a completely pointless excercise if you understand how ram is handled by the os.
You need to root and remove bloat, check ya settings etc to get better performance. I found letting things constantly access the network was a juice eater, I don't want fb to check every 4 seconds, I update it when I want to read it lol
I use a task manager, but only because I like to see what is running and using resources. I rarely actually kill any apps, just occasionally a few things I rarely use. Even then it fills the space with other stuff.
:edit: sorry flo95, that sounded a bit crappy, no bad attitude was intended.
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This is the solution...https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
not a task killer... a memory manager that enhances googles memory management.

mariolouis said:
Just what are you doing when you run out of ram? Never did I run out of ram yet. Running ram hungry games will free up more what is needed as I experienced. When I return to homescreen, it takes a while (around 2 secs) because it will free up ram from the game, then load the homescreen launcher from start/scratch.
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I do not play games with my Arc. I just used facebook, MSN, Camera and messaging occasionally throughout the day. Medium usage.
It runs smoothly for several days but maybe after a week or two, the RAM starts to get low.
im_iceman said:
This is the solution...
not a task killer... a memory manager that enhances googles memory management.
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Thanks! Working so far... will monitor after a week or so.

Try a cache cleaner also will free up some space for ya
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I use battery guard as a task killer. It comes with a widget where you can see the available amount of ram.
I'm happy about it. Though a lot of people say a task killer doesn't help I have no negative experience using this one... and I never go below 130 ram.
I still think it does help to close tasks that otherwise keep running in the background... But I'm new on android so I could be wrong.

Hey guys
Have you tried this script
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111145
maybe this can help w/o having to install apps or task-killers. Should work on Xperia Arc but I don't guarantee it.

That script seems to do basically the same thing as auto memory manager.. (per my previous post..)..
PS.. I currently have mine set to aggressive.

[Q] Save RAM

Hey Guys,
is there a way to save RAM ?
I'm using this Rom & I have only 79Mb free of RAM.
I tried zeppelinrox V6 SuperCharger
But it doesn't work.
so does anybody know an other way ?
Hmm and a question,is tehre a way to disable Sense 3.0 Task-manager ? cause maybe V6 SuperCharger doesn't work,cause of task-manager(maybe he kills it)
JuLiian

no need to think about the ram handling. when its going to be full (mean few MB), android will free some ram

One thing you should know about Android is that it takes care of itself when it comes to freeing RAM and all that. Using task killers and RAM optimizers can do more harm than be helpful. I wouldn't worry about not having much RAM available since Android frees RAM for you when it gets a little low. Maybe check for apps running in the background.

Two excellent guides which support meaples opinion:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

Meaple said:
One thing you should know about Android is that it takes care of itself when it comes to freeing RAM and all that. Using task killers and RAM optimizers can do more harm than be helpful. I wouldn't worry about not having much RAM available since Android frees RAM for you when it gets a little low. Maybe check for apps running in the background.
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Thanks for your awnser.
I never looked about Ram,but with this rom i have only 70MB free and sometimes the rom feels very slow. And a friend of mine had the same problem and he used this script and it works very well for him,so I thought I could trie this ,too

[Q] SuperCharger script?

Which one is MOST suggested?
1. Use the V6 script by zeppelinrox?
OR
2. Install RAM Manager app?
P/S : Does anyone knows how to un-supercharge the V6 script? PLEASE help me!

SyzwnFrzRdz said:
Which one is MOST suggested?
1. Use the V6 script by zeppelinrox?
OR
2. Install RAM Manager app?
P/S : Does anyone knows how to un-supercharge the V6 script? PLEASE help me!
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If you look at the options available at the number input stage, one of these can remove supercharge settings.

I prefer ro zeppelinrox's v6..it's more reliable..
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I dont know its hard to say. Ive used the v6 on 3 roms and its abit of a does it or does it not. Plus its hard to say. But it does free up some memory from looking at task manager it was always between 180 and 200mb of ram which is good.
At the minute im using ram manger and the ram is up around 220 to 250 but smooth just have it on normal balance setting.
Everyone is going to have their favorite's. I personally found the v6 to be annoying when setting it up and trying to get it 100% sc. But it seemed to work at the end of the day so cant argue.

A tricycle is easy to ride and is for kids.
And that app is a a tricycle, missing a wheel, and pretending to be a ferrari - it does nothing for the launcher or multitasking and you have to pay for the third wheel.
You can get the same effect as that app with autokiller or auto memory manager - for free.

I do have the V6 script in my phone now so based on your replies guy, i guess i'm gonna stick with the script instead of the RAM Manager.
@Zeppelinrox,
If i am to un-supercharge the script, the data of V6 is still in the phone, right? Where is it located then? Thanks!

If you unsupercharge the only thing left on the phone itself is nothing
But all the files stay backed up on the sd card for easy re-resupercharging

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If you unsupercharge the only thing left on the phone itself is nothing
But all the files stay backed up on the sd card for easy re-resupercharging
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I mean where are the backed up files? And is there any steps for re-supercharging? Thanks!

A tricycle huh..?and pretended to be a Ferrari..haha..
@snwman
Dude,v6 is not like bunch of cosmetic app where u can found on market that is easy to ride ..v6 is a script and it's solid like hell..its not how much u can free up ur memory,it's about managment..and it's free,!!!!
But whatever suite u well,its up to u..so..happy riding..
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I'd like to know if anyone running the script on the SGW has had problems with the stock browser, particularly trying to open more windows/tabs. I realised the moment I opened a second tab the the phone froze while opening the web page and took several minutes before killing the browser. I've never had problems with tabbed browsing so its certainly linked to the V6 aggresive memory management. I'm also aware the browser can use up huge RAM(upto 100MB and over) depending on how many and how big the web pages you are opening. Any help here would be welcome.
PS: I'm running the RC6 Version of the script.
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[Q] Lag in Games with NXT 1.3 Rom on Xperia Play

Hello to everyone, i have installed a custom rom for my Xperia Play with Locked Bootloader, the Custom Rom is NXT 1.3 and its performance in games was excellent newly installed, but when i started to install my apps or restore my apps the performance felt. So i thought that was ocurred cause was filling up the internal memory, so I put most of the applications on the SD card and some go to the ROM, but the performance doesn't improve as well, i read and a i have try different things like install Ram Manager Pro to free more RAM in games, to Use Task killer for Tasks in Ejecution and i dont see an considerable change in its performance. So Can i do for play more smooth?
The another thing is the NXT 1.3 have Busybox and support for scripts Init.d but i try to use an option for swap but maybe my stock kernel dont support it and another option for max size aplication's data in Ram Manager Pro ask me for busybox as if i didnt installed it, and i don't know why.
Thank yo
PD: Sorry for my poor English cause my native language is Spanish. XD

you need to overclock your rom.
here is the link for download No-frills CPU Control (i use this one): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiaXQuc2luZW8uYW5kcm9pZC5ub0ZyaWxsc0NQVSJd
After download that overclock it to: Max - 1,709 Ghz | Min - 249 Mhz | Governor - smartassV2 | I/Oscheduler - sio

Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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olokos said:
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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i use doomlord kernel.

A Question
But if i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel i cant to overclock cause i cant change kernel. is there another option for improve the game experience with the NXT 1.3 Rom or another???

I know this might not help but could you tell me how good heavy 3d gaming was when you first installed the ROM. Did you play games like GTA:VC/GTA 3/Modern Combat 3/4 / Batman Dark Knight Rises etc without NO LAG or with minimal lag? Im on dixperia 2 and out of the 3 ROMs ive been on, its provided me with the good performance although it does slightly lag when doing heavy 3d gaming...

Nxt Light 1.3
I was experiencing the same issue. I am using the light version of the custom ROM, and it was blazing fast upon installation. Now that all of my games are installed, it is slightly slower than it was before, not very noticable though. If it helps, before playing a game, I use Es Task Manager to clear up about 200mb of memory so more is available for the games. My bootloader is locked as well. I wish there was a stable ICS on the Xperia Play. The ICS user interface, in my opinion, is much smoother than gingerbread.

Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S

Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin

lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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My phone using NXT 1.3 has 204-215Mb free almost the times.

lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.

sdojoin said:
Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin
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Thank you man, but i have another question if i have Ram Manager Pro running for "Harder Gamming" it is going a trouble with the NXT rom? cause that to free RAM too but i have lag too. The Task killer i used only for free ram before i play, or maybe can you tell me how can i do for boost my gamming experience on NXT rom in my XP with locked bootloader. Thank you people for your support!

eksasol said:
Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Thank you, can you tell me what apps can i use for improve the gamming experience in XP or maybe boost the XP with NXT rom cause i have almost 20 apps and i have 100 mb free on Internal Memory, the Rom Memory with 35 Mb free, but the RAM fill up fast and i only use the defalult launcher of NXT Rom with Static Theme and a few widgets like Timescape, Photos/Videos, Searchbox and Music. But i feel the rom less smooth than newlsy installed, Thank you for answering!!!

Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Sdojoin

sdojoin said:
Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
Regards,
Sdojoin
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Another question my friend what app can i used for cache/dalvik cache (For no reboot all time XD) and i can't use swapping on Stock Kernel? cause i cant in my XP with NXT ROM with locked bootloader. Thank you!!!

U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
Regards,
Sdojoin

sdojoin said:
U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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Sdojoin
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I've tried to install a swapper but when i verify if it is running on memory use the swap space are in 0 like if i didnt install the swapper or if it isn't running, what can i do? The another question is this:
I found a tweaks collection and i want to try that but i dont know if that could generate conflict with the tweaks of the NXT ROM have with it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Somebody said games are better installed in internal memory than SD Card, that is right? by the way what configuration or tweaks or apps you used for games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 or Street Fighter IV? Thank you for answering!!!!

Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.

lash1co said:
Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."

chery2k said:
Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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So nothing can i do? :S. And if i put apps in Rom Memory (Rom's Space) will generate lag or no? Cause i thought in the posibility to move the apps in SD Car and Rom Space for more space on internal memory....

RAM management

Hi all!
I have a LG G3
Android 4.4.2
Baseband MPSS.DI.2.0.1
Kernel 3.4.0
Build KVT49L.A1412000029
SW V10l-EUR-XX
I have a question about the management of the RAM.
I have installed Task killer and Startup auditor (I have no root).
When I start my device in the morning, tapping the task killer widget icon, I can see free RAM of about 800 Mb, sometimes 900-1000 Mb. During the day, especially in the evening, this quantity of memory goes down to 450-500 Mb. My question is: why???
It seems that the device is not able to kill apps once opened. But I have to note also that I use same apps in the morning and in the evening.
In my opinion it is really strange and, even if my device works properly, I am curious to understand if there is the possibility to make more free RAM in order to get fast responses.
One more thing: I have tried to change the runtime from Dalvik to ART and I have noted no particular increment in performances but a significant reduction of the battery life, which is really odd considering that many persons say that ART make the battery stronger!
Thank you for your opinions.

Use clean master

or go, very efficient. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2809443
make sure to thank him

Or don't bother. This is the way Android/Linux works. Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Tapatalking from my LG G3

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patro23 said:
Hi all!
When I start my device in the morning, tapping the task killer widget icon, I can see free RAM of about 800 Mb, sometimes 900-1000 Mb. During the day, especially in the evening, this quantity of memory goes down to 450-500 Mb. My question is: why???
It seems that the device is not able to kill apps once opened. But I have to note also that I use same apps in the morning and in the evening.
In my opinion it is really strange and, even if my device works properly, I am curious to understand if there is the possibility to make more free RAM in order to get fast responses.
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Android isn't Windows. Empty RAM is wasted RAM. Your apps won't run faster with more free RAM. Android keeps recently used, or frequently used, apps in RAM, but not running, so that when you access those apps again they start up much more rapidly. If you kill them, and then go to use them again, Android needs to copy them from ROM to RAM and restart them, which takes more time and uses more battery. Lots of free RAM will slow your device down, not speed it up,
Google has lots of highly paid, very experienced OS engineers. They know what they're doing. Let the OS do what it's designed to do. Using a task killer doesn't gain you anything, and may make things worse.