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Is the display just plastic?

Just curious, is the display plastic on the G2? I honestly cant tell

I got a screen protector... just in case. I see many phones have decent screens that do not scratch, but I always go with the protection. Also, I have a house full of destructive kids who do not respect daddy's things.
I think everyone is afraid to say things that may sound like a guaranty. We may have to wait until a brave technician tears one down.

plastic screens scratch and dent like crazy. kind of wish they went with glass.

wow, i managed to scratch the gorilla glass screen on my vibrant so i guess i better get some sort of screen protector on this thing asap, sucks they didnt go with glass after putting all the aluminum trim on it

Lol I doubt its plastic
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Yea I really don't think its plastic.
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I'm pretty sure it's plastic. It's quite hard, but still, I think it's plastic. If it were glass, I don't think they would cut a hole in the edge for the speaker to peek out from. That edge around the speaker is also beveled. Again, something I doubt they would do to a glass screen.
Also, glass is very good for holding an anti-glare coating. The Vibrant's glass screen had one. (Ever notice how glare reflections were colored blue?) That's an extremely thin metallic salt coating on the glass (Magnesium Flouride is a popular coating). As far as I know, it's easy to do on glass, but harder on plastic, and is usually reserved for eye glasses. (And may even be a different technology then.) If it were glass, I think they would have used an anti-glare coating. Then again, HTC could just be shaving off pennies by not using an anti-glare coating. But I sill think it's plastic.
I'm just guessing. I'm no expert.

Thes screens on just about all phones are neither plastic nor glass, it's a combination of materials.

Plastic kinda like lcd tvs. I use to have a plasma an i loved the glass on it but glass cracks plastic takes alot before it does anything.
Either way its a nice screen to me and i bet we wont have the screen cracking problem like the nexus ones. Also always use a screen protector its just smart your always have new screen under the protector if the protector gets scratched just replace it. Better then getting another screen.

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Display: 3.7-inch (9.4 cm) flat glass touch-sensitive S-TFT screen with WVGA pixel resolution (480x800)
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Of course I don't know how credible this is since I couldn't find any mention of it in the references.

user1307 said:
Of course I don't know how credible this is since I couldn't find any mention of it in the references.
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Wikipedia should never be used for definitive reference.
All of these screens are "glass", because they are silica based.

Glass. Look up some capacitive TS or mobile phone coverglass spec sheets.

Turn off the screen and look at some glare. You can see wavy inperfections. Glass would have this. It also doesn't feel as hard as glass when I try to scratch it with my fingernail on the edge near the speaker.
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Screen Protection?

Yea or Nay?
I saw a Zagg at Best Buy for $29. Worth it? I know i do not want to scratch the screen.

I've been going back & forth whether or not I should get one as well. I tend to see more negative reviews than positive ones for the Zagg. I won't be as rough with it like I am with my cell phone. I'm wondering if I will need a protector at all.

I got an InvisibleShield and I think it's worth it. It's just comforting to know that I can do whatever I want to the screen, and there won't be any scratches on it.

I have one on my captivate, my laptop and have ordered one for my tab. I will say they are definitely not for everyone. So heres how I would describe it:
-100% will protect your screen from scratches (micro and major). Even gorilla glass will scratch.
- Feels like a orange peel or rubber/plastic on the screen. I love it, some ppl really hate it.
- After cleaning it, you might notice your finger catching a bit on swipes and drags. Its minor but some people again like that super slick glass feel for a touch screen and thats understandable.
- Might have some small bubbles after applying. They WILL go away over time, I promise.

I just picked up a tab yesterday and when I saw the price for the Zaggs, I said forgettaboutit!

I have had them on my phones for years, deff not putting one on the Tablet. It's not carried around in your pocket. It has scratch resistant glass so any normal day to day stuff shouldn't scratch it.

Those wet application orange peel ones all suck.
Static screen protectors are much easier to try and remove if you dont like them.

Not sure if the GT has gorilla glass but my Evo does and i have dropped it atleast 6x i the year i have owned it. All 4 corners got marks and i even managed to drop it face down in a compacted gravel parking lot. It slid after it landed face down! Still not one scratch when im sure normal glass would have spider webbed. So if its gorilla glass dont need a screen protector baby!

On my phone? Absolutely. On the Tab? I don't think it's necessary. I've had my ipad since it launched without a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch, because when I'm not using it, it's in a case
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Nay for the tab. It's going to spend most of its time in my house on the coffee table. Gorilla Glass has me covered, in my opinion.

ericc191 said:
Nay for the tab. It's going to spend most of its time in my house on the coffee table. Gorilla Glass has me covered, in my opinion.
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What gorilla glass? I haven't seen anything that 'officially ' states the 10.1 having gorilla glass
Ie... http://www.netbooknews.com/26680/users-reporting-google-io-galaxy-tab-10-1-build-quality-failure/

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What gorilla glass? I haven't seen anything that 'officially ' states the 10.1 having gorilla glass
Ie... http://www.netbooknews.com/26680/users-reporting-google-io-galaxy-tab-10-1-build-quality-failure/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061486&highlight=gorilla+glass
I'll call them tomorrow and double check.
The IO edition uses a different display than the retail. So it is possible the glass is different as well.

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What gorilla glass? I haven't seen anything that 'officially ' states the 10.1 having gorilla glass
Ie... http://www.netbooknews.com/26680/users-reporting-google-io-galaxy-tab-10-1-build-quality-failure/
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I was trying to find documentation on the web a while back. Only videos I found were for the 10.1v. I contacted Samsung and they assured me that it does.
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I just install the bodyguardz full body armor. Worth the money.
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I'm not too worried about the screen scratching, but it picks up fingerprints way too easily. I need to buy an oleophobic screen protector that won't collect fingerprints and oils, just haven't found one that is a decent price and has some positive reviews.

v3rn said:
I'm not too worried about the screen scratching, but it picks up fingerprints way too easily. I need to buy an oleophobic screen protector that won't collect fingerprints and oils, just haven't found one that is a decent price and has some positive reviews.
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I hate the fingerprint smudges as well. I saw a post a while back. Someone recommended to use a special solution on the screen that will help. Can't find the post unfortunately.
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I'm not a big fan of the smudges either but you only notice them when the display is off or you're viewing the screen from a wide angle. When I'm using it right in front of me, I can't even see them and I know it has a lot of smudges on it.
Like others said, it's not my phone so it won't be directly exposed to keys or other things that may scratch it. I can't wait for my Samsung book case to arrive to I feel better about it sitting out when I'm not using it.

v3rn said:
I'm not too worried about the screen scratching, but it picks up fingerprints way too easily. I need to buy an oleophobic screen protector that won't collect fingerprints and oils, just haven't found one that is a decent price and has some positive reviews.
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Boxwave Cleartouch Anti-Glare is really good at resisting fingerprints, if you don't mind a matte screen (I prefer a matte anti-glare on all my mobile devices)
Wasn't available yet, last time I checked, for the GTAB 10.1 but I'm sure it will be out shortly. Have one on my XOOM and my GTAB 7.

Are there any pics or videos of this on the web? I've never used anti glare screens I feel like its going to drop the screen quality.

cdf3 said:
I hate the fingerprint smudges as well. I saw a post a while back. Someone recommended to use a special solution on the screen that will help. Can't find the post unfortunately.
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was it rain-x?
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What happened to oleophobic screens?

Since I have gotten the One X I have noticed that the screen seems to be oleophobic, because if I leave the phone alone for an hour all my fingerprint smudges are magically gone . To me this is a killer feature .
Is it really oleophobic or am I just crazy, because I can't seem to find anything about it online ?
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It would appear so, same as the Galaxy Nexus

Just checked mine, noticed the screen is indeed totally free of fingerprints for some reason while I never clean it. Didn't even notice it until now, nice!

@Op,
There goes the screenprotector story LoL hahaha :laugh:
After reading the horrible stories about scratches on the screen I was being over protective I ques.
Removed it again. :cyclops:

i can confirm this, its smudge resistant

Yes it is. The screen also feels silk smooth.
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warning: no finger oil makes it prone to scratches, this makes scratches as fast as 1 week vs 1 year using gorilla glass v1. I personally hate this absurd, it destroys my expensive toy 1000% faster

Mine still has prints after a while.. Maybe you guys have magic finger oils? Or maybe I do?

Nit3m4re said:
Mine still has prints after a while.. Maybe you guys have magic finger oils? Or maybe I do?
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Nope mine is pigging to .. it's like something out of CSI

The microscratches are probably because the oleophobic coating is being scratched, rather than the glass.

mine has some but barley seen .

Nit3m4re said:
Mine still has prints after a while.. Maybe you guys have magic finger oils? Or maybe I do?
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But my old Xperia Play totally holds onto smudges for years like smudges are going out of style
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oleophobic will hold smudge, and it won't disappear
but it will get less smudge, and it will be easier to wipe it off.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
The microscratches are probably because the oleophobic coating is being scratched, rather than the glass.
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i did sanding of the screen to check if i could wipe off scratches and oleophobic coating - oleophobic coating disappeared almost completely but the scratches are still there very deep in to the glass, hard particles could just glide on top of the glass if there was any oil for it, like the oil in car engine to protect engine from scratching itself, the oil that our skin is releasing to protect our skin from scratches
oleophobic coating is a big mistake, a big FAULT as faulty antenna in iphone 4 - technological fault that should be fixed by HTC at no charge, i want my gorilla glass back as i had in galaxy s after 1 year without any scratches not even tiny ones

Yeah I can feel that indeed, the screen is much different then my previous devices.
Stupid I didn't realise that earlier. :cyclops:
Like I mentioned in my previous post, I started using a screenprotector because of all those horror stories about how
easy the screen scratches but I'm glad it's of again.
I'm one of the lucky people I ques who has a decent screen, no scratches what so ever
and I'm keeping my device in the pocket a lot (the screen protector I used only for a very short period).
WiZARD7 said:
oleophobic will hold smudge, and it won't disappear
but it will get less smudge, and it will be easier to wipe it off.
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Sanding of the screen to get the scratches off?
Very deep scratches that didn't dissapear?
I'm sorry but I do not understand how people can have deep scratches if you keep your device in the pocket.
The only thing I can think of are keys and sand indeed.
If I take my device to the beach I'm very carefull, not only with HTC One X but with any device.
Actualy not only phones but name a device that is sand resistant?
Raider0001 said:
i did sanding of the screen to check if i could wipe off scratches and oleophobic coating - oleophobic coating disappeared almost completely but the scratches are still there very deep in to the glass, hard particles could just glide on top of the glass if there was any oil for it, like the oil in car engine to protect engine from scratching itself, the oil that our skin is releasing to protect our skin from scratches
oleophobic coating is a big mistake, a big FAULT as faulty antenna in iphone 4 - technological fault that should be fixed by HTC at no charge, i want my gorilla glass back as i had in galaxy s after 1 year without any scratches not even tiny ones
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yes sanding using toothpaste is a method to remove scratches
I keep my HOX in HTC leather pouch, there was no keys or direct sand, environment was the same when i had my galaxy s, scratches came visible because i wanted less smudges and i wiped them off couple of times (thousands of times for the galaxy s), so there is like 100% chance i did finger cleaning my galaxy s with tiny hard particles on my fingers and scratches never appeared after a year but it did scratched my HOX in first week thanks to the oleophobic, by the way i got my HTC leather pouch same day i got HOX
Gorilla Glass V1 was scratch resistant (not scratch proof) with our finger oil , Gorilla Glass V2 with oleophobic is not scratch resistant.

Raider0001 said:
oleophobic coating is a big mistake, a big FAULT as faulty antenna in iphone 4 - technological fault that should be fixed by HTC at no charge, i want my gorilla glass back as i had in galaxy s after 1 year without any scratches not even tiny ones
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sorry, but what the hell are you on about? oleophobic screen isn't a fault. the coating isn't making the scratches more likely. neither is the oil in your skin? clearly you scratched it with a bit of grit/sand/dirt that you didn't notice was there when you wiped it, or there was something in the pouch that scratched it (ie a bit of grit/dirt/sand)
gorilla glass 2 is stronger than gorilla glass 1 - due to the ion exchange, the molecules are pushed closer together than normal glass, hence it being more scratch resistant. but anything harder than glass WILL scratch it.
and all sanding does, even with toothpaste, is replace a bigger scratch with lots and lots of even thinner scratches. why would you want to do that?

lawrence750 said:
sorry, but what the hell are you on about? oleophobic screen isn't a fault. the coating isn't making the scratches more likely. neither is the oil in your skin? clearly you scratched it with a bit of grit/sand/dirt that you didn't notice was there when you wiped it, or there was something in the pouch that scratched it (ie a bit of grit/dirt/sand)
gorilla glass 2 is stronger than gorilla glass 1 - due to the ion exchange, the molecules are pushed closer together than normal glass, hence it being more scratch resistant. but anything harder than glass WILL scratch it.
and all sanding does, even with toothpaste, is replace a bigger scratch with lots and lots of even thinner scratches. why would you want to do that?
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I think he meant polishing, not sanding. I'd have to agree, these new screens are more fragile than the ole gorilla glass.
Back onto topic, I noticed the smoothness of the screen straight away, just felt so silky and smooth - nice!
I also noticed how dark and smudge-free the screen looks when it's off compared to me other devices that use the older glass.

The screen surface is awesome against fingerprints.
Just putting the phone into my pocket for 2 minutes is enough to wipe the few fingerprints that managed to stay on the screen.

Scratch

Hi , I got a scratch in my nexus screen, is it possible to change just the outer glass? The LCD screen is intact.
With something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290736140062&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

ectodroid said:
Hi , I got a scratch in my nexus screen, is it possible to change just the outer glass? The LCD screen is intact.
With something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290736140062&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
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You could, but to do it properly you'd have to find a way to separate your digitizer from the original broken glass and re-seal the new glass to the digitizer. This is extremely difficult and nearly impossible to do properly outside of a factory equipped with the proper equipment and it is far easier to simply buy a new digitizer assembly.
If it's just a scratch and not a crack, I would recommend simply putting a wet-application screen protector on the device. According to many posters around here, that typically covers scratches very well and protects from future scratches.

JaiaV said:
You could, but to do it properly you'd have to find a way to separate your digitizer from the original broken glass and re-seal the new glass to the digitizer. This is extremely difficult and nearly impossible to do properly outside of a factory equipped with the proper equipment and it is far easier to simply buy a new digitizer assembly.
If it's just a scratch and not a crack, I would recommend simply putting a wet-application screen protector on the device. According to many posters around here, that typically covers scratches very well and protects from future scratches.
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Thanks I will just let it be then, I can only see it in direct sunlight.
Got a link to the wet application screen protector threads?

ectodroid said:
Thanks I will just let it be then, I can only see it in direct sunlight.
Got a link to the wet application screen protector threads?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1338

ectodroid said:
Hi , I got a scratch in my nexus screen, is it possible to change just the outer glass? The LCD screen is intact.
With something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290736140062&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
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Real sorry to hear about your screen, how did you happen to scratch it? The wet films work pretty well.
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Atrix27 said:
Real sorry to hear about your screen, how did you happen to scratch it? The wet films work pretty well.
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I was putting on my jacket with phone in hand... the zipper glided on the screen and there was the scratch the zipper isn't even solid metal :crying:

ectodroid said:
I was putting on my jacket with phone in hand... the zipper glided on the screen and there was the scratch the zipper isn't even solid metal :crying:
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Your kidding, have you seen the videos of guys taking knives and keys to the screen and nothing happens? I just got mine, now I'm a little worried.
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Screen protector, screen protector, SCREEN PROTECTOR.

Does the Galaxy Nexus screen scratch without a protector

Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.

jeffreynothing43 said:
Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.
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Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.

iLeopard said:
Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.
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Watch out for sand, I'm pretty sure that's what scratched mine

There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Well gorilla glass is not much more than Cornings branded version of the hardened glass found on any phone including the GN. It is as resistant as any phone, but as it's still glass, it's likely that it will scratch. Personally mine has a bunch of tiny scratches(had it since launch). I bet they are caused by sand, and they are no better or worse than my previous phone with gorilla glass.
Whether you need a screen-protector is a question of whether you will be more annoyed by the protector or the tiny scratches. But it is likely that you will get tiny scratches.

My experience:
Galaxy Skyrocket with Gorilla glass: 1 1/2 years without a single scratch.
Galaxy Nexus: scratched in the first month.

Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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I've had mine for about 15 months, and I try to be careful with the phone. But try as I may, things happen. My glass is still crystal clear and free of any visible scratches, but there are multiple spots on the bezel around the glass that are scratched and pitted. I don't use any screen protectors or a case.

tdf666 said:
Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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no it wont. just being in your pocket will NOT scratch the screen. however, if you have some sand in there or something harder than glass, it will scratch it.
i have had my phone for 14 months now, NEVER had a screen protector on it. and i JUST got my first scratch and i believe it was from a grain of sand on my thumb. i spend a LOT of time at the beach in Feb and March (live in Florida ) and its my only guess as to how it happened.
if you are careful, you should be OK without one....but getting one is probably a good idea if you are around sand a lot.

Yes it scratches
- wore out your welcome

Got mine at launch, no screen protector and no major scratches. There are a couple MINOR ones but nothing that can bee seen without careful inspection. I don't abuse the phone but I also don't baby it. I have used a holster and had it in my pocket. Go naked you will be fine if you don't abuse it.
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bpyazel said:
There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.

iLeopard said:
Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.
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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.

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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.
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Agreed. My comment was just to reinforce the fact that unlike popular belief, gorilla glass is not at all scratch resistant but rather shatterproof. Not so much as an entire "layer".